Hey guys,

Came across some interesting information regarding an ancient system of mathematics  called the Ra system or rods of amon ra. Apparently the great pyramids as well as other ancient temples where built using this maths which is extremely advanced. I was searching for a book written by Wesley Bateman entitled (funnily enough) "Rods of Amon Ra. Apparently this was an 800 page series which reveals this ancient and very advanced system of mathematical concepts. Something which could possibly prove useful when applied to the hunt for zero point energy.

Either way this book seems non existent and I cant find it anywhere, so if someone has one or know where to get one please feel free to post.

Here is some related information I thought you might find interesting. In this context the author applied the ra system to a supposedly fake message received in 1995 by CETI. CETI then posted this "fake" message for people to decode in any manner they could.

Here is the ref
http://www.jerrypippin.com/Seti%20Messages/SETI%20Messages%20Part%201.pdf

Rods were used as measuring tools during construction which sheltered the workers from the real meaning of the math.  The math was kept from the common people to rule over them.  Ever wonder why a 12 inch ruler is called a ruler? Ra (aka many other names) was/is not a good person.:P

Quote from firepinto on August 21st, 2013, 09:31 AM

Rods were used as measuring tools during construction which sheltered the workers from the real meaning of the math.  The math was kept from the common people to rule over them.  Ever wonder why a 12 inch ruler is called a ruler? Ra (aka many other names) was/is not a good person.:P

Yeh that's probably true, but is does not detract from the extremely advanced mathematics such as the constants expressed within the geometry of the pyramids. For example the base of the great pyramid is exactly how far the earth travels in it's orbit in one second. The circumference is exactly equal to the speed of light and the entrance to the pyramid exactly expresses the resonant frequency of hydrogen. The passages within the pyramid expresses complex calculations such as electron velocity calculations as well Rydberg matter and the fine structure  constant for hydrogen.

When are we going to wake up to the truth that has been kept from us? that the pyramids where never built by 4th dynasty kings!

I don't believe they were built by them either.  You may want to watch these video series.. you can bypass all the Egypt mumbo jumbo and skip right to the math.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K93dL65Q724

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk

Quote from firepinto on August 21st, 2013, 04:22 PM

I don't believe they were built by them either.  You may want to watch these video series.. you can bypass all the Egypt mumbo jumbo and skip right to the math.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K93dL65Q724

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk

Ah nice :)

Thanks for posting!

Quote from firepinto on August 21st, 2013, 04:22 PM

I don't believe they were built by them either.  You may want to watch these video series.. you can bypass all the Egypt mumbo jumbo and skip right to the math.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk

Now isn't that interesting.  The equilateral triangles shown in that video are EXACTLY the same as what is described in Tetryonics.  EXACTLY.  Starting to think we might be on to something here.

Cool I'll have to look into tetryonics:cool:

I’m not sure I buy all the Numerology stuff.
It’s so easy to find things that add up if you go looking for those certain things.
Ancient instruments were tuned to A=432 Hz ? Well that seems a far stretch that after 100’s of years these instruments did not change their tuning.

However there are some things that point to the Giza pyramids of (G1)=Khufu and (G2)=Khafra that indicate a higher knowledge of math then the ancient Egyptians are given credit.  

For example:
G1 is 280 cubits tall with a one side base length of 440 cubits therefor the full base length is 1760 cubits.
If we considered that the height of 280 cubits is the radius of a circle then the diameter would be 560 cubits.
Before it’s modern rendering of pi = 3.1415927 the ancient Egyptian may have used pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571 in other word 3 + 1/7. So 560 cubits times (pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571) = 1760 cubits just like the Great Pyramid (G1) has.

Also consider that the cubit was divided into 28 parts they called digits or fingers with 4 digits = one palm so 7 palms to the cubit. We can see from this that 1/7 = .1428571 is built into the cubit just by dividing it into 28 parts.

Also it appears the ancient Egyptians with (G2) used the 3-4-5 rule proposed by Pythagoras.

The best measurements of the Giza pyramids were made by W.M. Flinders Petrie.    

http://ronaldbirdsall.com/gizeh/petrie/index.htm


As for the A=432 Hz being discovered by Pythagoras I would like to see some proof if anyone has it!
As far as I know Pythagoras only discovered ratios of musical notes not any specific note Hz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)
 

The Natural or Pure scale of spacing notes by  ½ or 2/3 and so on still in use by some cultures does have it’s limitations. That is why the Equal Temperament scale of dividing an octave by the twelfth root of two ( 1.0596431) is in use by much of the world today. You just can’t build good sounding complex cord structures with the Natural scale.

As for the use of A=432 Hz instead of A=440 Hz it’s a lot easier to visualize octaves as 110 – 220 – 440 – 880 – 1760 Hz and so on then the 432 Hz. Plus the base side length of the Great Pyramid is 440 cubits so what did the ancient Egyptians know? :D

element 119

Quote from element 119 on August 22nd, 2013, 12:54 AM

I’m not sure I buy all the Numerology stuff.
It’s so easy to find things that add up if you go looking for those certain things.
Ancient instruments were tuned to A=432 Hz ? Well that seems a far stretch that after 100’s of years these instruments did not change their tuning.

However there are some things that point to the Giza pyramids of (G1)=Khufu and (G2)=Khafra that indicate a higher knowledge of math then the ancient Egyptians are given credit.  

For example:
G1 is 280 cubits tall with a one side base length of 440 cubits therefor the full base length is 1760 cubits.
If we considered that the height of 280 cubits is the radius of a circle then the diameter would be 560 cubits.
Before it’s modern rendering of pi = 3.1415927 the ancient Egyptian may have used pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571 in other word 3 + 1/7. So 560 cubits times (pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571) = 1760 cubits just like the Great Pyramid (G1) has.

Also consider that the cubit was divided into 28 parts they called digits or fingers with 4 digits = one palm so 7 palms to the cubit. We can see from this that 1/7 = .1428571 is built into the cubit just by dividing it into 28 parts.

Also it appears the ancient Egyptians with (G2) used the 3-4-5 rule proposed by Pythagoras.

The best measurements of the Giza pyramids were made by W.M. Flinders Petrie.    

http://ronaldbirdsall.com/gizeh/petrie/index.htm


As for the A=432 Hz being discovered by Pythagoras I would like to see some proof if anyone has it!
As far as I know Pythagoras only discovered ratios of musical notes not any specific note Hz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)
 

The Natural or Pure scale of spacing notes by  ½ or 2/3 and so on still in use by some cultures does have it’s limitations. That is why the Equal Temperament scale of dividing an octave by the twelfth root of two ( 1.0596431) is in use by much of the world today. You just can’t build good sounding complex cord structures with the Natural scale.

As for the use of A=432 Hz instead of A=440 Hz it’s a lot easier to visualize octaves as 110 – 220 – 440 – 880 – 1760 Hz and so on then the 432 Hz. Plus the base side length of the Great Pyramid is 440 cubits so what did the ancient Egyptians know? :D

element 119

Yeah i'm prob not much for numerology either. But the use of the 432 HZ frequency is interesting. The choice for tuning at 440 HZ was introduced as an international standard was in no way based on anything particular other than the fact that a standard was needed. Lots of people are realizing that the relationship with the rods of amon ra and the perfect mathematics according to nature and both phi and pi is the "correct" musical frequency ...

Have a listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqf0L6brQWU

Not sure about the Pythagoras thing.

Also interesting to note that the Egyptians seemed to use 7 different versions of PI/PHI do they know something we don't?

Quote from zaneaussie on August 22nd, 2013, 07:21 PM

Quote from element 119 on August 22nd, 2013, 12:54 AM

I’m not sure I buy all the Numerology stuff.
It’s so easy to find things that add up if you go looking for those certain things.
Ancient instruments were tuned to A=432 Hz ? Well that seems a far stretch that after 100’s of years these instruments did not change their tuning.

However there are some things that point to the Giza pyramids of (G1)=Khufu and (G2)=Khafra that indicate a higher knowledge of math then the ancient Egyptians are given credit.  

For example:
G1 is 280 cubits tall with a one side base length of 440 cubits therefor the full base length is 1760 cubits.
If we considered that the height of 280 cubits is the radius of a circle then the diameter would be 560 cubits.
Before it’s modern rendering of pi = 3.1415927 the ancient Egyptian may have used pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571 in other word 3 + 1/7. So 560 cubits times (pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571) = 1760 cubits just like the Great Pyramid (G1) has.

Also consider that the cubit was divided into 28 parts they called digits or fingers with 4 digits = one palm so 7 palms to the cubit. We can see from this that 1/7 = .1428571 is built into the cubit just by dividing it into 28 parts.

Also it appears the ancient Egyptians with (G2) used the 3-4-5 rule proposed by Pythagoras.

The best measurements of the Giza pyramids were made by W.M. Flinders Petrie.    

http://ronaldbirdsall.com/gizeh/petrie/index.htm


As for the A=432 Hz being discovered by Pythagoras I would like to see some proof if anyone has it!
As far as I know Pythagoras only discovered ratios of musical notes not any specific note Hz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)
 

The Natural or Pure scale of spacing notes by  ½ or 2/3 and so on still in use by some cultures does have it’s limitations. That is why the Equal Temperament scale of dividing an octave by the twelfth root of two ( 1.0596431) is in use by much of the world today. You just can’t build good sounding complex cord structures with the Natural scale.

As for the use of A=432 Hz instead of A=440 Hz it’s a lot easier to visualize octaves as 110 – 220 – 440 – 880 – 1760 Hz and so on then the 432 Hz. Plus the base side length of the Great Pyramid is 440 cubits so what did the ancient Egyptians know? :D

element 119

Yeah i'm prob not much for numerology either. But the use of the 432 HZ frequency is interesting. The choice for tuning at 440 HZ was introduced as an international standard was in no way based on anything particular other than the fact that a standard was needed. Lots of people are realizing that the relationship with the rods of amon ra and the perfect mathematics according to nature and both phi and pi is the "correct" musical frequency ...

Have a listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqf0L6brQWU

Not sure about the Pythagoras thing.

Also interesting to note that the Egyptians seemed to use 7 different versions of PI/PHI do they know something we don't?

i did a study on this a wile back, but this is a very good selection of information related. i guess many of you had thought to create your tubular water cells in this frequency? i would go for every octave:D, and even make 2 of each to find what wave against what wave leads to better electrolysis.

Quote from freethisone on September 9th, 2013, 12:53 AM

Quote from zaneaussie on August 22nd, 2013, 07:21 PM

Quote from element 119 on August 22nd, 2013, 12:54 AM

I’m not sure I buy all the Numerology stuff.
It’s so easy to find things that add up if you go looking for those certain things.
Ancient instruments were tuned to A=432 Hz ? Well that seems a far stretch that after 100’s of years these instruments did not change their tuning.

However there are some things that point to the Giza pyramids of (G1)=Khufu and (G2)=Khafra that indicate a higher knowledge of math then the ancient Egyptians are given credit.  

For example:
G1 is 280 cubits tall with a one side base length of 440 cubits therefor the full base length is 1760 cubits.
If we considered that the height of 280 cubits is the radius of a circle then the diameter would be 560 cubits.
Before it’s modern rendering of pi = 3.1415927 the ancient Egyptian may have used pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571 in other word 3 + 1/7. So 560 cubits times (pi = 22/7 = 3.1428571) = 1760 cubits just like the Great Pyramid (G1) has.

Also consider that the cubit was divided into 28 parts they called digits or fingers with 4 digits = one palm so 7 palms to the cubit. We can see from this that 1/7 = .1428571 is built into the cubit just by dividing it into 28 parts.

Also it appears the ancient Egyptians with (G2) used the 3-4-5 rule proposed by Pythagoras.

The best measurements of the Giza pyramids were made by W.M. Flinders Petrie.    

http://ronaldbirdsall.com/gizeh/petrie/index.htm


As for the A=432 Hz being discovered by Pythagoras I would like to see some proof if anyone has it!
As far as I know Pythagoras only discovered ratios of musical notes not any specific note Hz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)
 

The Natural or Pure scale of spacing notes by  ½ or 2/3 and so on still in use by some cultures does have it’s limitations. That is why the Equal Temperament scale of dividing an octave by the twelfth root of two ( 1.0596431) is in use by much of the world today. You just can’t build good sounding complex cord structures with the Natural scale.

As for the use of A=432 Hz instead of A=440 Hz it’s a lot easier to visualize octaves as 110 – 220 – 440 – 880 – 1760 Hz and so on then the 432 Hz. Plus the base side length of the Great Pyramid is 440 cubits so what did the ancient Egyptians know? :D

element 119

Yeah i'm prob not much for numerology either. But the use of the 432 HZ frequency is interesting. The choice for tuning at 440 HZ was introduced as an international standard was in no way based on anything particular other than the fact that a standard was needed. Lots of people are realizing that the relationship with the rods of amon ra and the perfect mathematics according to nature and both phi and pi is the "correct" musical frequency ...

Have a listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqf0L6brQWU

Not sure about the Pythagoras thing.

Also interesting to note that the Egyptians seemed to use 7 different versions of PI/PHI do they know something we don't?

i did a study on this a wile back, but this is a very good selection of information related. i guess many of you had thought to create your tubular water cells in this frequency? i would go for every octave:D, and even make 2 of each to find what wave against what wave leads to better electrolysis.

a few good songs:sleepy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzOKB_hk7Z8

Here is a story from my perspective..
Ra, Isis, Thoath... The whole bunch of them were all about having slaves do the dirty work. Many of them apparently lived thousands of years old, so they would need slaves to do all the work. The slaves were actually clones that they created. It's a little cloudy tp go deeper than that.


I really prefer this video for demonstrating the concepts of the vortex math, he does an excellent job at explaining it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pvuTZ5u6Kg&feature=youtu.be

Quote from KevinW_EnhancedLiving on September 11th, 2013, 04:21 PM

Here is a story from my perspective..
Ra, Isis, Thoath... The whole bunch of them were all about having slaves do the dirty work. Many of them apparently lived thousands of years old, so they would need slaves to do all the work. The slaves were actually clones that they created. It's a little cloudy tp go deeper than that.


I really prefer this video for demonstrating the concepts of the vortex math, he does an excellent job at explaining it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pvuTZ5u6Kg&feature=youtu.be

Haha yeh and that makes me think of this..

Gotta love David Koind Childress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZRcBXGccgI

Haha.  I sure do love living in a free country.
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Quote from Dog-One on September 11th, 2013, 06:07 PM

Haha.  I sure do love living in a free country.

Aww really??:(

Here you tube this sentence

"Ancient Aliens: Chariots, Gods & Beyond"

Im sure you will find it :)

Quote from KevinW_EnhancedLiving on September 11th, 2013, 04:21 PM

Here is a story from my perspective..
Ra, Isis, Thoath... The whole bunch of them were all about having slaves do the dirty work. Many of them apparently lived thousands of years old, so they would need slaves to do all the work. The slaves were actually clones that they created. It's a little cloudy tp go deeper than that.


I really prefer this video for demonstrating the concepts of the vortex math, he does an excellent job at explaining it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pvuTZ5u6Kg&feature=youtu.be

i do like the vortex stuff, and i was introduced to it when Mr Rodin came up with the coil he shared.

It dawned on me the similarity's of the coil to an old washboard type speaker made my Dr. Townsen Brown.

my problem with this is that its related to static charge in a way also. but there needs to be a plate.
 the means of producing clean sound has it promise. but there is another aspect i want to discover. A Tesla based speaker it is, but it is only an off shoot of another one of his circuits.


would you mind an experiment, or two to help me with my problem? thank you, cheers.:-/:)
any one have a Rodin coil they turned into a speaker?

Quote from zaneaussie on August 21st, 2013, 06:32 AM

Hey guys,

Came across some interesting information regarding an ancient system of mathematics  called the Ra system or rods of amon ra. Apparently the great pyramids as well as other ancient temples where built using this maths which is extremely advanced. I was searching for a book written by Wesley Bateman entitled (funnily enough) "Rods of Amon Ra. Apparently this was an 800 page series which reveals this ancient and very advanced system of mathematical concepts. Something which could possibly prove useful when applied to the hunt for zero point energy.

Either way this book seems non existent and I cant find it anywhere, so if someone has one or know where to get one please feel free to post.

Here is some related information I thought you might find interesting. In this context the author applied the ra system to a supposedly fake message received in 1995 by CETI. CETI then posted this "fake" message for people to decode in any manner they could.

Here is the ref
http://www.jerrypippin.com/Seti%20Messages/SETI%20Messages%20Part%201.pdf

I have access to the original pdfs of the Rods Book, and if there's interest still I can see if the Author's daughter would be willing to make it available.

I'm not sure there's too much in it regarding ZPE, but there's certainly some interesting ideas.  Wes wrote a lot on energy issues before he passed a few years back.

Martin

Quote from Martin9 on January 10th, 2014, 11:54 AM

I have access to the original pdfs of the Rods Book, and if there's interest still I can see if the Author's daughter would be willing to make it available.

There's no doubt that there's an interest in taking part of these Pdf books, however do make absolutely sure that you indeed have permission to spread these books, I urge you to first make contact with Russ, the Admin here on this forum, and discuss this with him personally.

Thank you.

Quote from Martin9 on January 10th, 2014, 11:54 AM

I have access to the original pdfs of the Rods Book, and if there's interest still I can see if the Author's daughter would be willing to make it available.

I'm not sure there's too much in it regarding ZPE, but there's certainly some interesting ideas.  Wes wrote a lot on energy issues before he passed a few years back.

Martin

Is that right??? Man I have looked high and low for those and have not been able to find them anywhere. If you could post those that would be absolutely awesome!!!

Quote from Lynx on January 10th, 2014, 02:06 PM

Quote from Martin9 on January 10th, 2014, 11:54 AM

I have access to the original pdfs of the Rods Book, and if there's interest still I can see if the Author's daughter would be willing to make it available.

There's no doubt that there's an interest in taking part of these Pdf books, however do make absolutely sure that you indeed have permission to spread these books, I urge you to first make contact with Russ, the Admin here on this forum, and discuss this with him personally.

Thank you.

I second this.