I found these videos below fascinating.  They are using a Neo magnet as an electrode for electrolysis.  The bubbles stream off of the magnet in a vortex, spinning away like crazy.  I want to try this experiment when I get back this weekend.  I might have finally found a excuse to make a stainless steel Rodin Coil.:P  I'd like to see the vortex coming off of one.  Seems like this is the only way to see the real vortex on magnets, while iron filings just show flux lines.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Xc9VHbXl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoBNfEyOiBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0SDO_Prp-c

Ha Nate, the first video is cool, it's neat how you can change polarity then the vortex changes direction. What is the substrate under the magnet, and what is the significance of this, why world changing so to speak?

Quote from Jeff Nading on September 22nd, 2011, 04:40 AM

Ha Nate, the first video is cool, it's neat how you can change polarity then the vortex changes direction. What is the substrate under the magnet, and what is the significance of this, why world changing so to speak?

I don't know what he used, just that it was electrically insulated I think.  Plus I think it was isolating the other electrodes bubbles from mixing with the vortexed bubbles, to get a clearer view.  I would say it cant be called world changing yet, but if its not being taught I bet it has some importance.:P

  To me it is a new way to identify what the magnetic field looks like or how it acts.  Everyone wants to use ferro fluid to see the fields on Rodin Coils, but I don't see any correlation with the shapes created in the fluid compared to magnetic fields.  I think the shapes are just a mechanical structure held together with magnetic force.  The electrolysis vortex shows that the field is alive and moving.  The ferro fluid shapes only move with gravity and inertia.

I seen something like this before on a hydrogen plasma experiment where he had neomagnets all around the jar.  He had some rotation around his titanium electrode.  I'll see if I can find the video.  

Edit:
I found the video, he did switch out the titianium rod for a neo-sphere magnet.  He claimed it also increased the power of the HHO bubbles when ignited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-9jE-pjAh4

Nate

please download and upload these movies..


howard jhonson magbet motorThis torsional effect can be viewed as having a kind of asymmetry in the mechanical sense its dipole moment is fully furnished by the vacuum.

These forces are of interest. some of the information in the PDF  file is A valuable analogy OF The CasImir EFFECT.

THE WHOLE PAPER IS WORTH READING.  COULD THESE FORCES BE RELATED? IMHO YES!

HERE IS THE LINK    GOOD LINK

CLICK THIS LINK OF CUTTING EDGE DEVELOPMENTS:cool:

framed dragging of  magnetic particles. red shift effect, this wave. vortex based helix spin of a specific invisible particle of magnets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlm8UWDNe4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1BPdLunVE4&feature=related

This on gravity, i have attempted to define this asymmetrical effect that occurs in a permanent magnet.


Has the gravity been described in its simplest form, by the inner force, rather then the repellent force, or Centripetal force proposed?
Would you consider gravity as a tiny swirl of energy in relation to the rotation of axis about a center mass.

Would you rather if not for better words be more happy to call it universal fluid?

By this there is viscosity of fluid that is for better terms held in suspension around the center of axis of a body, or of some system bound upon a center of rotation in relation to local space.

If this explains the energy, or phenomena I wish to define in simple form, as to which closely agrees with the nature of spin, then this must be a logical choice if it defines many of the questions, then it must be the better of the theories if it abides by 3 laws, that i am willing to adopt to change, for better description of the same phenomena this is the question of constant gravity.

answer the question that make it a a logical assumption as to the nature of this type of energy, in this form as to which by rotation along a curved line, and center of mass that we can, therefore calculate the effects of a constant rotation of speed in relation to the outer bands of the mass, and its center centrifugal force.

Cool test to see if this holds true. Aether and Gravitation,  this is my inspiration, very good book. :heart::heart: link