Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
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Is free & efficient energy possible?

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Total Members Voted: 11

wsx

Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« on June 11th, 2013, 08:21 PM »
I am curious to see what some think. When I mean free energy I do not mean the free energy one gets from a solar panel, wind,water, batteries, etc. Maybe the definition of "free energy" needs to be better defined. But getting more energy from something one puts less energy in.


Also on a side note on what is happening in the news.
Even if one makes something that is efficient or free will be found by people that benefit from conventional energy sources, since politicians are people that are connected with big energy corporations and other corporations which greed does not like competition.

I am not asking for people to say since many some don't want a knock on their door by NSA which they record and read everything. Well I don't think they read it all just have programs detect certain words to trigger as the whistle blower stated. Certain things are not allowed by the peasants which the laws apply to and only to people in office that are above the law. Even if someone that is suspect of a incident calls you or mingles in your group it is enough suspicion for NSA and others agents to look at you.
If you don't know here is the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM

Now if you feel he is breaking the law to point out people breaking the law that's quite oxymoronic and the people that are ok with breaking the basic law seem to not understand certain things.
As Benjamin Franklin said "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." As for Christians putting fear over freedom is what gives Christians a bad name. Nothing in life is secure and anything can be taken away weather people like it or not.

Matt Watts

RE: Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« Reply #1, on June 11th, 2013, 09:35 PM »
Free energy will be tapped at some point if it is not already.  My question is:  Will you have a hand in it?  Will you swallow hard, get over your fear and build something that works, or will you cave to pressure from above?  If you cave, if you're not able or willing to put it all on the line, you simply don't deserve to have the power of the universe at your fingertips.  That's your choice; I've already made mine.

Now, use your head and do the right thing.  First one to succeed gets the badge of honor that pulls us all out of this whole $hitty mess.


DaS Energy

RE: Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« Reply #3, on June 12th, 2013, 08:28 PM »
Given the number of geothermal, and ground heat generators that exist in the world, why would the question even need be asked. The tiny country New Zealand is not shy in free energy, and its hot thermal pools are not just tourist attractions.  

wsx

RE: Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« Reply #4, on June 12th, 2013, 09:22 PM »
I did not take the poll yet to say it is or if it's not possible, but wondering what others think since plenty of people that deal with electronics professionals and unprofessional don't think its possible while some do.
I met people in every spectrum which  some say they did it but wont say since they want investors to be rich which a few have said that, and some said they did an efficient device to drive 1000 miles with which coasted them 5 cents. None will say as if they all think they will be rich and some have died keeping their secrets and delusions of grandeur. Or they can be full of it to just show off just like all youtube videos that think they are comedians to pull an Andy Kaufman where the punch line is the audience.
Free energy would be useless if its too expensive and complex to make. I think if people want to find it they should be in the moderation level, since it should not be that hard and not that simple to make. Kind of like whistling it has to be just the right air pressure and technique. People want something efficient despite they are far from efficient. To want something efficient they have to act and think like it to the point they don't need it to get it. It's like a chess champion wins and does not care as much as a hungry person on the bottom that isnt as good, which the person not as good did not do what the champ did to put in the hours and dedication. People are not efficient and very wasteful.
So the thing is are people ready for it? Probably not just like how people are not ready for a lot of things like truth, freedom, knowledge, compassion, justice, etc.
Despite that some may feel taht many people are not ready for free energy, others feel its too dangerous in the wrong hand. Everyone feels they are better than others, and people like Tesla said his faith helped him create his ideas, and made him understand that everyone is equal. Problem with Tesla is that he wanted to help other which is good but he could not help himself to realize certain things outside of science.
People in society has to be ready to accept certain things and if not then the inventor might be seen as the bad guy by some, many or most. Times change how people do not want the constitution and want it abolished in many ways. I explain to people how to save in energy and they treat you as if you curse them off.

So even if someone comes up with free energy then real problem might be not to effectively present it, which Tesla knew how to give everyone energy but did not know how to present it. Smart man but smarts in one field.

Just cause someone wants free energy does not mean they fully know the implications of what it can fully do good or bad. As the movie spierman said with great power comes great responsibility. And are people as a while responsible? We live in an age of the movie idiocracy as the creator said. Politicians will not want free energy since corporations will not want it. Their is a reason why it's not allowed due to the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951. ""prevent disclosure of new inventions and technologies that... present a possible threat to the national security " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act

Well I am just saying something for people to think about.

Matt Watts

RE: Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« Reply #5, on June 12th, 2013, 09:53 PM »Last edited on June 12th, 2013, 10:00 PM by Matt Watts
The biggest threat to people's security are those people in-charge of national security, the government and their partners in crime, the corporations.

I highly doubt a free energy solution would be as dangerous as a nuclear reactor and those things saturate the planet.  Could there be some side-effects to using a free-energy solution?  Sure.  Would side-effects stop a corporation like Monsanto from producing GMO food?   Nope.  Would people tip-toe into using a free energy device with caution?  I would think so.  Over the course of five to ten years if it proved to be effective and safe, I think a lot of people would jump on the bandwagon.

Next, lets talk cost.  If a Stanly Meyer device could be built on a mass scale that would totally eliminate a vehicle from ever using petroleum and cost less than 25% of the vehicle's price, I would think people would jump on it.  Same thing for an electrical device that could provide all the energy needs of a home at the same 25% price point.

The whole trick to do this must happen at the grassroots level and completely bypass government and corporate control.  If either of those two entities get their hands on it, you never will.

Let me make one last point.  If people have the ability to live a life of abundance, the use and need for governments and corporations drastically diminish.  These two entities already have free energy, because you are it.  Your labor they get for free.  They give you money that comes from nothing and you work your a$$ off for it to stay alive.  It's a big scam and the winners of this scam will blow this whole planet up if they think there is any possibility average people will re-write the rules of the game and take back their own independence.  I say that is a chance we have to take.  I'd much rather die on my feet fighting then live on my knees as a slave.


Bodenji

RE: Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« Reply #7, on June 18th, 2013, 11:06 PM »
Check this out. If you combine these three ideas you do get free energy.

Tower - provides electricity and water for the Nitinol motor
Fresnel - heats the water for the nitinol motor and condenses the water for the tower
Nitinol motor - produces electricity

With these three combined, the tower generates electricity and water and the fresnel heats the water without requiring a heliostat because even a few hours of heat would be enough if theres a large enough reservoir. This heat powers the Nitinol motor



Russell Lee

RE: Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« Reply #8, on June 19th, 2013, 11:32 AM »
Free is absolutely possible I feel. The laws of thermodynamics only prevent two-dimensional models from operating continuously. Example: A ball on a string will swing down but not all the way back up due to entropic loss.
 However, when you have a compound mechanism, like the Pinwheel Generator that use gravity in both of it's stages as it turns into another tyoe of mechanism half-way through it's operation, then free energy is possible.
 Basically, living for as short of time period as we have here on tiny speck in the universe, we would be deluded to believe we have even scratched the surface of attainable knowledge.
 With ninety bazillion possible combinations of interplay between all of the levers, pins, springs, plates, balls, and everything else we have, plus adding into that the forces around us like gravity, light, dark, heat, cool, expansion, etc.., somewhere in all of this there must be one (or 100,000) combination that continually moves and produces free energy.
We do not as yet know what all of the energys are that are around us. X-rays were around us for a long time untill someone found them (in his soup I think).  Russ

kcrawford

RE: Do you feel a free energy device is possible?
« Reply #9, on June 19th, 2013, 01:57 PM »
I think the term free is misleading, it comes from somewhere. Water sun , even Tesla said a device tuned correctly could take the heat from the earth atmosphere, which was really high voltage electricity, gets its energy from the sun, but oh what a way to harvest it.