Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.

Russell Lee

Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« on June 11th, 2013, 12:32 PM »Last edited on December 4th, 2013, 09:56 AM by Russell Lee
Power Multiplier Device works as follows:
 You have two large sprockets (top/bottom) connected by a chain. Top sprocket can be mounted on the roof of a building, the bottom on the ground level. Connected to the bottom sprocket is a transmission/generator. Pulling down one side of the chain turns the bottom sprocket/generator and produces energy. Home wind generators that need a low rpm rate would be ideal. The PMD is mounted at the top of the chain.
The PMD has a small drive sprocket on one side of the chain, and two idler sprockets on the other side to keep the drive sprocket enmeshed in the chain. Two brackets on the front and back of the chain hold the axles of these interior sprockets. The axle of the small drive sprocket exits the front bracket and is also the axle of a large 5 ft. diameter bicycle-type wheel (BTW). Turning the BTW also turns the small drive sprocket inside the bracket. At the base of each bracket is a 250 lb. weight (500 lbs.), and the front weight extends below the level of the rim of the BTW and has a small electric motor attached to it. This motor is attached to a chain (or belt) that goes around the BTW's circumference so that when the motor turns, the BTW turns also (also turning the inside drive sprocket) causing the whole assembly to climb the chain. The whole assembly (PMD) weighs 500+ lbs. Starting at the top, it's weight pulls down the chain, turning the generator, generating energy into a common battery. When the PMD arrives at the bottom, it's motor turns on and, turning the BTW, turns the drive sprocket to climb the chain back to the top. The extended radius of the BTW allows a smaller motor to do the job. This is one complete PMD generator. Now take 7 of these PMDS, and begin with the first having it's PMD starting at the top, if you spaced them 30 seconds apart (each on their own chains), you would have 7 of them for a 3 minute descent time. One at the top, the others spaced down every 30 seconds with one at the bottom. The ascent time is 30 seconds. When they all begin to operate, the bottom one will begin to ascend (drawing energy from the common battery they are all connected to), and the other 6 would begin to descend (charging full charges into the common battery). 6 PMDs charging into the battery, one drawing out. The one ascending would need more energy than one descending PMD would be producing, but not so much that it would equal two.. EVEN IF IT DID EQUAL TWO FULL CHARGES, THAT WOULD STILL LEAVE FOUR FULL CHARGES GOING INTO THE BATTERY CONTINUOUSLY THAT ARE NOT NEEDED FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM TO FUNCTION. When the ascending PMD reaches the top, it's motor will turn off and it's weight will begin pulling it's chain down. At this time the next lowest PMD has reached the bottom and begins it's ascent. This extra FREE ENERGY, can now be used for anything outside the system. Clamps are in place to hold the chain during the ascent cycle of the PMD.   This energy generation system is also ideal for space exploration.  Located in the outer levels of a rotating station, the rotation creating centrifugal force/artificial gravity, enough energy would be supplied for both the operation of the station, and it's rotation. The design of the Grow-Live Tower, with the first 40 levels housing 5,000 people, and the next 120 levels being greenhouse levels, adding the PMD would bring about the end of world hunger, famine, cut global disease by 85% due to improved living conditions, etc..               Thank you, Russell Lee

Matt Watts

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #1, on June 11th, 2013, 06:28 PM »
Quote from Russell Lee on June 11th, 2013, 12:32 PM
... it would need more energy to bring the PMD to the top than it generated going down, ...
Interesting idea, but the one line I quoted above would seem to kill the whole principal, since each PMD acts independently whether there be one or a whole 100 acre farm of them.  To have any net excess energy, you would have to engineer the PMD to draw less power climbing back up than it generates going down.  It's not easy to trick mother nature--she's pretty particular about the rules of the game.

In any event, welcome aboard.  Keep the ideas coming...

Russell Lee

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #2, on June 15th, 2013, 08:35 AM »Last edited on June 19th, 2013, 11:07 AM by Russell Lee
Dog-One,
  I think your may not quite understand the operation of this system.  As I said that the ascending PMD would draw more energy from the battery than it generated into the battery during it's descent, I also stated that the energy draw would be less than two times the charge that was put it. With 6 PMDs in motion, even if the charges of two of them were negated by the one PMD's ascent, there would still be 4 PMDs charging into the common battery whose charges would not be needed for the system's operation. 6 scoops in, two scoops out, leaves 4 scoops still in. This would be excess energy to use however-free energy. Even if the requirement for the ascent was three full descent charges, there would still be three PMDs left charging excess energy into the battery that was not needed for the system's operation. At all times there are 6 full charges going into the battery, and less than two going out. After a full three minutes/30 seconds, every PMD would have gone one full cycle with the total charges for all seven being 21 minutes of charge into the battery, 3.5 minutes of charge drawn from the battery. Even if doubled, it is still just 7 minutes of charge out of the battery, and 21 minutes of charge into the battery. Russ
Quote from Dog-One on June 11th, 2013, 06:28 PM
Quote from Russell Lee on June 11th, 2013, 12:32 PM
... it would need more energy to bring the PMD to the top than it generated going down, ...
Interesting idea, but the one line I quoted above would seem to kill the whole principal, since each PMD acts independently whether there be one or a whole 100 acre farm of them.  To have any net excess energy, you would have to engineer the PMD to draw less power climbing back up than it generates going down.  It's not easy to trick mother nature--she's pretty particular about the rules of the game.

In any event, welcome aboard.  Keep the ideas coming...

Matt Watts

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #3, on June 15th, 2013, 12:32 PM »Last edited on June 15th, 2013, 12:46 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from Russell Lee on June 15th, 2013, 08:35 AM
Dog-One,
  I think your may not quite understand the operation of this system.
You are absolutely correct in that statement.

Do you have any drawings or even better, a simulation of this device I could study?

Seems to me there is a trick being played here on energy generation/consumption per time interval and if the time span is widened enough, it becomes obvious the system would come to a halt--basically the battery would die and all PMDs would sit at the bottom motionless.

The other thought that crossed my mind is that as the PMD tried to ascend, the chain and sprockets would move, the generator would start turning and the PMD would go nowhere.  Unless of course there is a brake, which also takes energy to engage/disengage.  That's the trick right?  The point of this little mental exercise?

Russell Lee

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #4, on June 19th, 2013, 11:14 AM »
As the PMD ascends, it's weight will be pulling down on the chain. This will be generating energy into the battery during the ascent so as to lessen the amount of entropy energy being taken from the battery.
 The ascent just has to be faster than the descent. The descent has the efficiency ratio between heavy weight, and gearing in the transmission, so that the weight descends as slowely as possible. The ascent has an outside motor that just needs to zip the whole PMD up the chain quickly. Technically this is called in the engineering lexicon- "zippieness factor of doom." Thank you, Russ

Ravenous Emu


Matt Watts

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #6, on June 20th, 2013, 11:24 AM »Last edited on June 20th, 2013, 11:25 AM by Matt Watts
Quote from Ravenous Emu on June 20th, 2013, 09:49 AM
I saw something a while back that I thought was really neat.   :D :cool: :P


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYwXDSK7TsU
So that would be your classic COP = 1, unity device correct?

I agree, that's really neat.

Ravenous Emu

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #7, on June 20th, 2013, 12:59 PM »Last edited on June 20th, 2013, 01:33 PM by Ravenous Emu
Quote from Dog-One on June 20th, 2013, 11:24 AM
So that would be your classic COP = 1, unity device correct?
Eh, I wouldn't call it COP=1. :D :cool: :P

But, since gravity is what makes it work... all you need to do is put a generator/alternator on it.

Voila, power. (albeit... very little.)
Now... can something like this be scaled up and still be efficient?
:D :cool: :P
The concept of what's on a Steam Locomotive is what I think is the best way to transfer the "energy" to a rotor of a generator.
Watch 1:08-1:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=99MADUckaQQ&NR=1

Russell Lee

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #8, on June 21st, 2013, 09:25 AM »Last edited on June 21st, 2013, 09:26 AM by Russell Lee
 Very cool thing although I'm hoping for an independent investigation of this mechanism, there are places for hidden batteries and of things of that sort. I doubt those wires will last very long.
Quote from Ravenous Emu on June 20th, 2013, 09:49 AM
I saw something a while back that I thought was really neat.
:D :cool: :P


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYwXDSK7TsU&feature=youtu.be
RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #9, on July 5th, 2013, 09:09 AM »
An indication that this PMD technology is valid has been demonstrated by the Squidoo.com people pulling that site down just after the PMD energy generator was posted.  Their excuse was that there was duplicate content (?) on the site, a site that has been up for over four years suddenly has unacceptable dupicate content?
"Neither the size of governments, nor the power of armies, can stop an idea whose time has come."-Anon

Matt Watts

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #10, on July 5th, 2013, 09:13 PM »Last edited on July 5th, 2013, 09:15 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from Russell Lee on July 5th, 2013, 09:09 AM
"Neither the size of governments, nor the power of armies, can stop an idea whose time has come."-Anon
Everything put together as it is now has sure done one heck of a job so far.

The internet is full of crap and I suspect the good things that would really change the world are locked in a vault.  Not by accident of course.  All planned and orchestrated by some really awful, nasty people.

Some folks around here think the same will happen to this site.  I guess time will tell.

Russell Lee

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #11, on August 13th, 2013, 09:32 AM »
 I hope nothing happens to this site, especially when this PMD technology is beginning to generate interest.
 Hope the best for all involved in freeing the world of the petroleum chain.  -Russ

wsx

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #12, on August 13th, 2013, 09:37 PM »
Quote from Dog-One on July 5th, 2013, 09:13 PM
Quote from Russell Lee on July 5th, 2013, 09:09 AM
"Neither the size of governments, nor the power of armies, can stop an idea whose time has come."-Anon
Everything put together as it is now has sure done one heck of a job so far.

The internet is full of crap and I suspect the good things that would really change the world are locked in a vault.  Not by accident of course.  All planned and orchestrated by some really awful, nasty people.

Some folks around here think the same will happen to this site.  I guess time will tell.
I think some have figured it out but wont say for certain reasons from financial to personal. I think its not hard but that people are thinking too conventional which distracts them. One can not discover something when chartered already. People have to try things not thought about. Which is why professors are not the authority of intellect know it all.As the silly saying goes those that know do, and those that do not know teach. No offense so anyone, it's just that I feel we are all distracted by doing what has been done than things not done and it might be so simple we will kick ourselves and say "why didn't I think of that".

Everyone has to be their toughest critic and experiment and if they experiment fails they should have learned the lesson why so that next time they can understand the rules why it failed so the next time they think of an idea they planed it out in their head well just like Tesla did to understand the various way it can and can not work.

I think the major obstetrical is the fabrication part since many ideas die as thoughts and not done to be presented for others to learn what does not work or how they can improve it. It is all one big chess game and you have to memories how all the pieces will play out on your first move.

Matt Watts

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #13, on August 13th, 2013, 10:46 PM »
Quote from wsx on August 13th, 2013, 09:37 PM
It is all one big chess game and you have to memories how all the pieces will play out on your first move.
When I use to play chess quite a bit, my opponents would get so made and tell me, "You never play the same game twice."  I would answer, "Because I can't remember them all, so I just play to win."

Mechanic

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #14, on August 26th, 2013, 12:17 PM »
"and it might be so simple we will kick ourselves and say "why didn't I think of that".

Here is the thing......the key.......the freaquancy......it has already been there/invented just waiting to be fed to whatever job/test or project you need to accomplish.....it is self regulated and just needs to be controled.....

Developing The Future


Matt Watts

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #16, on September 23rd, 2013, 12:11 AM »
Quote from Developing The Future on September 22nd, 2013, 11:59 PM
I have had full interest in the use of gravity eliminating the need for fuels or engines. I believe this is something that pretty much covers the discussion http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gravitylight-lighting-for-developing-countries http://www.deciwatt.org
Have a look at this monster:
http://www.pureenergyblog.com/2013/09/11/1809/8502378_rar-energia-gravity-motor-allegedly-complete-and-working/

We don't have any confirmed reports that it does indeed work, but the builders claim it does.

Developing The Future

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #17, on September 23rd, 2013, 01:14 AM »
Yeah Matt I have seen a video on youtube addressing it, I already know for a fact that such devices work. Few lego technic versions of gravity driven generators have been on youtube and some how one of them got pulled after I commented on it. I figure since it can be built with legos and such ease is most likely why it was pulled. More devices like these could help rebalance the economy or crash it in my opinion, unless they were slowly introduced little by little into the system like all of the other renewables. But good reference none the less other people on here might be able to track more info down on that one for us.

Russell Lee

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #18, on December 4th, 2013, 09:52 AM »
   These types of designs are being pulled off the net, but others continue to appear.  The idea of self becoming energy independent is powerful enough to drive gravity-powered designs.  Especially while the petro-cabal tightens the screws on the world. Time will tell.
Quote from Developing The Future on September 23rd, 2013, 01:14 AM
Yeah Matt I have seen a video on youtube addressing it, I already know for a fact that such devices work. Few lego technic versions of gravity driven generators have been on youtube and some how one of them got pulled after I commented on it. I figure since it can be built with legos and such ease is most likely why it was pulled. More devices like these could help rebalance the economy or crash it in my opinion, unless they were slowly introduced little by little into the system like all of the other renewables. But good reference none the less other people on here might be able to track more info down on that one for us.

heatlocke

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #19, on December 4th, 2013, 05:36 PM »
Russell, We would still like to see a descriptive drawing of the device you talked about earlier in this thread. There is something that has always fascinated me about these gravity or "momentum" driven devices. I have seen a few large devices demonstrated, mostly spinning pendulum types that was able to do some actual work. Thats something rare in a lot of the "Free" energy devices that are popular today.  

Russell Lee

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #20, on December 6th, 2013, 07:48 AM »
Heatlocke,
  I wish I could provide one for you but at present it is not possible.  Please read the description over carefully and I think you will see how simple this mechanism is, and how it produces at least twice as much energy as it requires in order to function.  
 It is hard to gauge how much of an impact these types of designs are having.
 I published the Pinwheel Generator design a decade ago, had little response, then starting hearing from professors in foreign nations that had been studying it.  
  The best we can do is just put it out there to the world for free and let the world digest it.  All nations are wanting energy independence, if the design is viable, no matter the amount of hype, it will eventually gain traction.
    Thank you for your interest,
                                     Russ
Quote from heatlocke on December 4th, 2013, 05:36 PM
Russell, We would still like to see a descriptive drawing of the device you talked about earlier in this thread. There is something that has always fascinated me about these gravity or "momentum" driven devices. I have seen a few large devices demonstrated, mostly spinning pendulum types that was able to do some actual work. Thats something rare in a lot of the "Free" energy devices that are popular today.

freethisone

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #21, on December 7th, 2013, 04:59 PM »Last edited on December 7th, 2013, 05:09 PM by freethisone
/watch?v=V70w3cxDJIM

there are many i have never seen, here is one.


is this possible? I guess not so sure. but there are many others on youtube.
..:cool:


this is more fun../watch?v=8l9HgqPqsk4

Russell Lee

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #22, on December 9th, 2013, 07:44 AM »
Cool stuff, thanks.  The one with the magnet pulling the ball up the ramp looks like it might be that the ball is being blown up the ramp by an air blast outside of the frame. Why else screw down the heavy magnet in place just to pull up a small steel ball?
Quote from freethisone on December 7th, 2013, 04:59 PM
/watch?v=V70w3cxDJIM

there are many i have never seen, here is one.


is this possible? I guess not so sure. but there are many others on youtube.
..:cool:


this is more fun../watch?v=8l9HgqPqsk4

Matt Watts

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #23, on December 9th, 2013, 10:50 AM »Last edited on December 9th, 2013, 11:28 AM by Matt Watts
Quote from Russell Lee on December 9th, 2013, 07:44 AM
Cool stuff, thanks.  The one with the magnet pulling the ball up the ramp looks like it might be that the ball is being blown up the ramp by an air blast outside of the frame. Why else screw down the heavy magnet in place just to pull up a small steel ball?
Because the table and camera is tilted sideways.  hehe

These "Visual Education" videos are all hoaxes designed to train the viewer in discernment.  I built the wheel with the steel ball contraption last year just to prove to myself it couldn't work and I was right.  Unless you pulse the magnetic field, the steel ball will not roll, only slide, making the device inoperable.

heatlocke

RE: Gravity-driven, continuous motion energy genrator: Power Multiplier Device.
« Reply #24, on December 9th, 2013, 05:32 PM »
Whats your opinion about the one in post #6 by Rav...Emu. Real or fake, Plausible ? If it real it should be able to pump water.