Hey, guys - I guess many of you have already seen this clip on youtube where the two kids have the magnetic gun experiment...



..it's one of the reasons I'm sure the 'whole magnet thing' is destined for success.

Anywho, the two have created a follow-up vid (May 19 2013) below which is really interesting..



The possibilities... hehe

This is one of the most exciting vids I've seen re: magnetic fields on the 'tube...and this one with neo's



I'm interested that they are getting such force out of this?!

And the obvoius question is of course if they've managed to close the loop........?

Try swinging a pendulum to see that just because it has energy when it goes down and up it does not have enough to go a full circle by itself.
If it was a loop the magnet will not have enough energy push past the attracting side which will get stuck at the start of the magnet. In other words you need more kinetic energy to push it into position again after it has been depleted by physical friction and air friction, so you would need more energy to push past the magnets at the start.
Now if an electromagnet started at the center of the magnets then you would not have it blocked when it goes into it, but more energy is needed for an electromagnet is the issue on that obsticle.

I've seen this vid http://youtu.be/9hInwyQiG24 by user MotionMagnetics on the 'one inch barrier', which proves your point regarding the pendulum and needing more kinetic energy to get it past the 'magic point'.

This is the challenge I'm going to tackle - my first build (not including fresnel lens stand for home smelting goodness)

The energy that is generated by a magnet is first imparted with a fractional second of high electric charge - which can then defy gravity for years to come - and that's just the weak ones. (taken from http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl)

I honestly believe that there's something there in a strong magnet that is tapping into the 'fabric energy' that is all around us, as in any picture of magnetic flux fields, you see flux leaving at North, and being added at South. To and from where?

Anywho, that's my own burning passion just now, and I'll be sure to post my efforts on here, so that at the very least, others will know what NOT to try next time.

Quote from DanW on May 29th, 2013, 09:45 PM

I've seen this vid http://youtu.be/9hInwyQiG24 by user MotionMagnetics on the 'one inch barrier', which proves your point regarding the pendulum and needing more kinetic energy to get it past the 'magic point'.

This is the challenge I'm going to tackle - my first build (not including fresnel lens stand for home smelting goodness)

The energy that is generated by a magnet is first imparted with a fractional second of high electric charge - which can then defy gravity for years to come - and that's just the weak ones. (taken from http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl)

I honestly believe that there's something there in a strong magnet that is tapping into the 'fabric energy' that is all around us, as in any picture of magnetic flux fields, you see flux leaving at North, and being added at South. To and from where?

Anywho, that's my own burning passion just now, and I'll be sure to post my efforts on here, so that at the very least, others will know what NOT to try next time.

why not use a curved plain, like a banking on a race track. the gravity can restart the loop process?

Quote from DanW on May 29th, 2013, 09:45 PM

I honestly believe that there's something there in a strong magnet that is tapping into the 'fabric energy' that is all around us, as in any picture of magnetic flux fields, you see flux leaving at North, and being added at South. To and from where?

As I stated in another thread, these flux lines all curve round North to South - apparently there are no particles being given off and being received from another place in a magnet, with the current  model of physics (Current model - it would be unlikely to see another!) stating that a magnet is a closed loop. Eating humble pie in finding a cosmic puzzle over 2d flux drawings, though I'm still keen to experiment further with my magnets when they arrive this week.

@Freethisone yeah, that's a great question - you mean to loop on the vertical plane not the horizontal for gravity assistance - I've not seen that to date, I'll add it to what to test.

I'm impressed that these young guys got past the locking 'gate' effect by figuring out the moving magnet has to be in the center of the field of the fixed magnets to get past the sticky spot, and I've seen multiple videos of people who haven't figured that bit out, remaining stuck at that one point of exit.

The force of magnetic expulsion on that last video using the neodyms was pretty impressive! My immediate instinct is that it would be sufficient to get past that last bit of distance in a closed loop, friction and general entropy be damned.

Quote from DanW on June 4th, 2013, 07:12 PM

Quote from DanW on May 29th, 2013, 09:45 PM

I honestly believe that there's something there in a strong magnet that is tapping into the 'fabric energy' that is all around us, as in any picture of magnetic flux fields, you see flux leaving at North, and being added at South. To and from where?

As I stated in another thread, these flux lines all curve round North to South - apparently there are no particles being given off and being received from another place in a magnet, with the current  model of physics (Current model - it would be unlikely to see another!) stating that a magnet is a closed loop. Eating humble pie in finding a cosmic puzzle over 2d flux drawings, though I'm still keen to experiment further with my magnets when they arrive this week.

@Freethisone yeah, that's a great question - you mean to loop on the vertical plane not the horizontal for gravity assistance - I've not seen that to date, I'll add it to what to test.

I'm impressed that these young guys got past the locking 'gate' effect by figuring out the moving magnet has to be in the center of the field of the fixed magnets to get past the sticky spot, and I've seen multiple videos of people who haven't figured that bit out, remaining stuck at that one point of exit.

The force of magnetic expulsion on that last video using the neodyms was pretty impressive! My immediate instinct is that it would be sufficient to get past that last bit of distance in a closed loop, friction and general entropy be damned.

not a loop de loop per say.  a 45% bank on one side. if one side of the track is 10 inches higher then the other side, and you also use a banking angle like on a race track.  keeping the magnet at a better angle for speed, and direction along the high, and low side of the track....  that should scrub less speed off the race magnet, because  banking will keep the momentum up higher then if there was no banking at all.:shy:

you may be able to find at toys r us a race car set with the track, and banking all fabricated for you. many configurations can be try, and you can raise or lower the track on one side.

you may even be able to use Velcro to keep the magnets attached to the track depending on the size of the magnets.