Obviously fan blades are needed but sometimes on certain jobs they need to be redesigned it seems which maybe some should reconsider different methods when dealing with spinning objects or objects going through air or water. I can be wrong on some points but error is not the issue as much as thinking differently.
Using force on anything reduces efficiency. Even driving at higher speeds makes the car waste more gas to fight against the compressed air. Even jets that go faster than sound you can see the air compress in sonic booms. If the object’s design through the air is not smooth and balances friction happens, which causes, heat, noise, and resistance to slow it down. Even noise from electrical components show some inefficiency but nothing we can do about it, and to only muffle the notice only hides the issue. When things go at high speeds a less resistant force is needed and more of a dynamic force might be needed.
Even cars that seem aerodynamic at the front mess it up when its not as pointy at the back since making the front pointy and the back a square makes suction in a way to slow it down which plenty do not see that. Maybe the disk would even it out, since the front can push the air to the side and the air at the back compresses it to help squeeze it forward without drag. A ball is not as efficient as a disk since, and when something is going fast the sharper it should be to cut through just like a knife cuts. And just like a knife how it should slice and not chop to cut better the same with a disk how it turns to help push air away.
Shouldn’t Tesla bladeless turbine be considered to a degree from water to air be implemented? Even those high speed centrifuge spin to separate particles efficiently and a blade on that would greatly reduce its performance. I don’t know if a bladeless blender to have a Tesla disk instead work and just have the case shaped in a way to aid it. Would water friction with a Tesla turbine heat the water up? Heat is after all the lowest form of energy, and Tesla turbine is considered by Tesla to be very efficient within the 90% range.
Another issue with a fan is the center, since some have a big flat plate which restricts it from acting in a way like a drain to make a vortex. The Dyson Air Multiplier has the right idea to have the center free to help pull as a venture affect for a little but more air flow. I wonder if the length of the tube would have helped the venture effect more, or if it tapered out like a funnel.
Wouldn’t some say that if you hear a fan makes noise it shows it’s not efficient? Kind of like a car engine how its 30% efficient with all the noise, heat, and vibration it makes, which the same with a fan. Even the bladeless Dyson bladeless fan has blades hidden at the base to push it up which makes noise. But I have to hand it to Dyson that gave an effort to make it better. They even say “The problem with conventional motors” and point it out in their opinion to blame the Conventional 2D impeller, Low speed bearing, etc. Every bit counts and the “Bulky copper wirings in rotor” as they say it also causes air friction at high speeds.
http://www.dyson.com/Vacuums/DDM.aspx
Helicopter blades have been made to have no noise like this design. This image does not show is the bend at the end which the link shows in the video which seems to help it go up.
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-02/video-eurocopter-introduces-silent-rotor-blade-stealth-choppers
One company said hey why not and did a real 3D printed bladeless ceiling fan. The price is an insane $500 so they are not efficient in productivity it seems despite asking others for start up funds as the site indicates. I think that they should have made the center more aerodynamic. It moves the opposite of the Tesla turbine but close enough to the design.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tesla-inspired-bladeless-ceiling-fan
I think the Tesla turbine has some flaws from what I see others make since the edges are not as thin as they should be, but I would assume the center is where the issue is at. If the exact center is where the exhaust hole is I assume it would be better than next to the center. The turbine disk has friction from one exhaust to the other. Also just like a drain spirals down the center, the disk kind of disperses it to be off center. Isn’t the center shaft an issue and should it be reconsidered so that the air gets released exactly form the center? Obviously something would need to hold the disks, so maybe have something like the ceiling fan design to have the edge of the disk hold on to one another which has some drag but the center would be free to have a clear vortex.
Also what if the venturi effect was applies to Tesla’s blade to be shaped wide on the outer edges and narrower at the center of each blade? Kind of like having the radius looks like a double convex shape. Obviously it would slow it down but would it be better if it was double concave? Obviously both have resistance and force, but maybe it’s something to think about.
“Invelox wind turbine claims 600% advantage in energy output”
http://www.gizmag.com/invelox-wind-generator/27377/
How it works seems to use the venturi effect. Also 600% compared to what?
http://simonwild.me/2012/12/11/wind-turbines-in-buildings-is-venturi-the-answer/
A Tesla turbine would increase it I assume.
http://barnardonwind.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/fig06-2.jpg
Fans in the end do act like a screw to spiral by being slow and secure, while a Tesla turbine disk seem to be like a nail to be fast and smooth. I guess each preference for its job, but will there be a combination of the 2 to be fast and secure.
Thanks
Using force on anything reduces efficiency. Even driving at higher speeds makes the car waste more gas to fight against the compressed air. Even jets that go faster than sound you can see the air compress in sonic booms. If the object’s design through the air is not smooth and balances friction happens, which causes, heat, noise, and resistance to slow it down. Even noise from electrical components show some inefficiency but nothing we can do about it, and to only muffle the notice only hides the issue. When things go at high speeds a less resistant force is needed and more of a dynamic force might be needed.
Even cars that seem aerodynamic at the front mess it up when its not as pointy at the back since making the front pointy and the back a square makes suction in a way to slow it down which plenty do not see that. Maybe the disk would even it out, since the front can push the air to the side and the air at the back compresses it to help squeeze it forward without drag. A ball is not as efficient as a disk since, and when something is going fast the sharper it should be to cut through just like a knife cuts. And just like a knife how it should slice and not chop to cut better the same with a disk how it turns to help push air away.
Shouldn’t Tesla bladeless turbine be considered to a degree from water to air be implemented? Even those high speed centrifuge spin to separate particles efficiently and a blade on that would greatly reduce its performance. I don’t know if a bladeless blender to have a Tesla disk instead work and just have the case shaped in a way to aid it. Would water friction with a Tesla turbine heat the water up? Heat is after all the lowest form of energy, and Tesla turbine is considered by Tesla to be very efficient within the 90% range.
Another issue with a fan is the center, since some have a big flat plate which restricts it from acting in a way like a drain to make a vortex. The Dyson Air Multiplier has the right idea to have the center free to help pull as a venture affect for a little but more air flow. I wonder if the length of the tube would have helped the venture effect more, or if it tapered out like a funnel.
Wouldn’t some say that if you hear a fan makes noise it shows it’s not efficient? Kind of like a car engine how its 30% efficient with all the noise, heat, and vibration it makes, which the same with a fan. Even the bladeless Dyson bladeless fan has blades hidden at the base to push it up which makes noise. But I have to hand it to Dyson that gave an effort to make it better. They even say “The problem with conventional motors” and point it out in their opinion to blame the Conventional 2D impeller, Low speed bearing, etc. Every bit counts and the “Bulky copper wirings in rotor” as they say it also causes air friction at high speeds.
http://www.dyson.com/Vacuums/DDM.aspx
Helicopter blades have been made to have no noise like this design. This image does not show is the bend at the end which the link shows in the video which seems to help it go up.
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-02/video-eurocopter-introduces-silent-rotor-blade-stealth-choppers
One company said hey why not and did a real 3D printed bladeless ceiling fan. The price is an insane $500 so they are not efficient in productivity it seems despite asking others for start up funds as the site indicates. I think that they should have made the center more aerodynamic. It moves the opposite of the Tesla turbine but close enough to the design.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tesla-inspired-bladeless-ceiling-fan
I think the Tesla turbine has some flaws from what I see others make since the edges are not as thin as they should be, but I would assume the center is where the issue is at. If the exact center is where the exhaust hole is I assume it would be better than next to the center. The turbine disk has friction from one exhaust to the other. Also just like a drain spirals down the center, the disk kind of disperses it to be off center. Isn’t the center shaft an issue and should it be reconsidered so that the air gets released exactly form the center? Obviously something would need to hold the disks, so maybe have something like the ceiling fan design to have the edge of the disk hold on to one another which has some drag but the center would be free to have a clear vortex.
Also what if the venturi effect was applies to Tesla’s blade to be shaped wide on the outer edges and narrower at the center of each blade? Kind of like having the radius looks like a double convex shape. Obviously it would slow it down but would it be better if it was double concave? Obviously both have resistance and force, but maybe it’s something to think about.
“Invelox wind turbine claims 600% advantage in energy output”
http://www.gizmag.com/invelox-wind-generator/27377/
How it works seems to use the venturi effect. Also 600% compared to what?
http://simonwild.me/2012/12/11/wind-turbines-in-buildings-is-venturi-the-answer/
A Tesla turbine would increase it I assume.
http://barnardonwind.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/fig06-2.jpg
Fans in the end do act like a screw to spiral by being slow and secure, while a Tesla turbine disk seem to be like a nail to be fast and smooth. I guess each preference for its job, but will there be a combination of the 2 to be fast and secure.
Thanks