Let me share an excerpt of an email I sent to someone interested in this stuff:
There are a lot of details around the electro-magnetic field and electricity which are actually not well understood. The idea that electricity is basically the effort of "pumping charge carriers" trough wires - hydraulics analogy - is fundamentally flawed. See this demonstration to get an idea how flawed the hydraulics analogy really is:
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In actual fact, the very foundation of main stream physics, the Maxwell equations in their currently accepted form, is fundamentally flawed which leads to the conclusion that both Einstein's relativity theory as well as Quantum Mechanics are both fundamentally flawed:
http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ruins96YearsEinsteinRelativityhttp://www.tuks.nl/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/QuestioningQuantumMechanicsWe need to return to aether physics, the only theory we have which has actually not been falsified to date, in order to get not only an intuitive understanding of physics, but also to get the long sought for "unification of physics". Paul Stowe did an excellent job in laying the foundation for such a theory, which is essentially an extension of Maxwell's aether model. The most important difference between Stowe and Maxwell is that Stowe's aether is compressible:
http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StowePersonalEMail(see menu bar at the right for more work by Stowe)
Returning to electronics, it is most important to realize that there are actually two distinct flows of energy involved, one of which is totally being ignored by the hydraulics analogy:
1) Mass-bound flows of "charge carriers", that what we consider to be "currents";
2) Mass-less movements of the aether itself, by means of steady-state flows and waves propagating trough it.
With Stowe's work, we can understand that magnetism is a rotational movement in/of the aether. And because of the way we model the electro-magnetic fields, we only consider phenomena that are fundamentally associated with this rotational "magnetic" component. What is missing, is the existence non-rotational, non-magnetic, movements in/of the aether. One of which is the fact that the electro"static" field actually propagates with the speed of light, or perhaps even sqrt(3) times c. The other one are Tesla's longitudinal (di)electric waves, which do propagate at a speed of sqrt(3) times the speed of light.
Now because of the assumption longitudinal dielectric waves cannot propagate trough "the vacuum" we get to the situation that the famous "dual slit experiment" has been misinterpreted and thus we got Quantum Mechanics with ideas like "entanglement" which break just about all fundamental laws of Physics.
While it is awfully hard to fully understand the details of what is exactly going on, it is not very hard to understand that the electro"static" field is actually some kind of steady state flow in/of the aether and thus transports energy. Now this is a mass-less flow of energy whereby, according to Prof. Turtur, the energy needed to sustain this energy flow is circulated and converted to/from what is known as "zero point energy" by "charge carriers" and the "losses" or "resistance" of the aether:
http://www.wbabin.net/physics/turtur1e.pdfAll right. Now the basic concept is that when you have a separation of charges, a dipole, you get a "static" electric field, which is a dynamic force - a steady state flow of aether - and transports/contains energy. Since this energy flow is not part of the hydraulic analogy we normally work with, we are dealing with an energy flow that can be controlled/manipulated by means of "separating charges".
That leads us to the conclusion that we have two separate energy flows available which we can use for splitting water into a usable fuel:
1) mass-based "charge carrier" currents, involving electron flows;
2) the electro-"static" "field".
Both energy flows can be used of course, BUT the first option falls within the hydraulic analogy, which means you will never ever be able to create a COP>1 system whereby you can extract "excess energy" from somewhere, with "somewhere" being the aether/vacuum/etc. I'm afraid your setup with "discharging" falls under this category....
So, option 2 is clearly the way to go.
The way to do that is to make use of "dielectric breakdown", which occurs in a dielectric - such as water - when a very strong electric field is present. For water, this happens at field strengths in the order of 70 kV/mm or 70 V/um. Note the per mm and per um. There is a *distance* involved.
In other words, if you were to make a capacitor with perfectly insulated plates and a distance of 1 mm between the plates, you would need in the order of 100 kV in order to reach the desired field strength. This is essentially what Eccless did, even though he used a double layer of plates steered out of phase:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Eccles%20-%20Fracture%20Cell%20Apparatus%20-%20GB%202.324.307A.pdfhttp://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Eccles%20-%20Fracture%20Cell%20Apparatus%20-%20OCR%20remake%20GB2324307A.pdfNow there are no perfect insulators, so all practical insulators are also dielectrics with a certain permittivity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PermittivityA table with some values for this permittivity relative to vacuum can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_permittivitySo, when you apply an electric field across an insulating layer, the molecules inside the material get polarized and this actually opposes the applied field. This is why a dielectric layer in a normal capacitor increases the capacity.
However, when the externally applied field is suddenly removed, the molecules cannot instantly "de-polarize" and an effect known as dielectric relaxation occurs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric#Dielectric_relaxationDuring the delay, we get an electric field in the opposite direction as the externally applied field, with a field strength depending on the geometry of the capacitor, the permittivity of the dielectric material and the relaxation parameters. Now because water is also a dielectric, things get pretty complicated, especially because there are also ions within water which make it a conductor to a certain degree, depending on the concentration of contaminations/ions. However, when enough ions are present within the water, these will move trough the fluid such that they also oppose the field being present such that the resulting field within the fluid goes to zero.
In other words: when you have a capacitor construction, whereby you have metal plates with a layer of dielectric / insulation and "contaminated" water in between, the resulting field is to be found across the insulating layer. And, the thickness of the layer determines the strength of the resulting field.
So, if you have an insulating layer of 0.1 mm thickness, you would need in the order of 7 kV to come with in the area of fields with sufficient strengths. But if you have a layer of 1 um thickness, you would only need in the order of 70 V.
Of course, this is just an indication to illustrate the importance of using a thin layer which does not take any dynamics or specific parameters into account...
