Stainless Steel Magnet Wire

HHOSteam

Stainless Steel Magnet Wire
« on March 24th, 2013, 11:07 PM »
This is going to sound like a stupid questions so forgive me but I have to ask.
It looks like we are having a great deal of trouble finding the Stainless Steel Magnet wire for the VIC. Why can't we just get our hands on wire and enamel it on our own?
Any one know how this process works?


Matt Watts

RE: Stainless Steel Magnet Wire
« Reply #2, on March 29th, 2013, 09:46 AM »
Maybe a question we should ask prior to answering your question is:

What does SS mag wire buy us?  Does it do something copper wire can't?  It's certainly much harder to work with.

Gunther Rattay

RE: Stainless Steel Magnet Wire
« Reply #3, on March 30th, 2013, 02:17 AM »
Quote from Dog-One on March 29th, 2013, 09:46 AM
Maybe a question we should ask prior to answering your question is:

What does SS mag wire buy us?  Does it do something copper wire can't?  It's certainly much harder to work with.
SS wire magnetizes without a core and that way it changes timing in pulsing environment. it has much higher resistance than magnet wire.

to get high voltage insulation to the wire I assume the insulation material has to be added in a similar way the 3D printer appies raw material but more in a way a color is added to a wire.

1. get the insulation raw material
2. work out the processing conditions (vacuum?)
3. get plain SS wire
4. go for it

SS wire is widely used in automotive industry.

HHOSteam

RE: Stainless Steel Magnet Wire
« Reply #4, on March 31st, 2013, 06:45 PM »
I don’t think getting the SS Wire is going to be hard and nor should getting the Polyimide insulator.
The main question here is how does the coating process work to insulate the wire with the Polyimaide?
I should have access to a 3D printer shortly and have a Lathe and Min Mill to make all the parts that I need for this process. If anyone can help me understand the process then I would be more than happy to try and make something to insulate the wire with Polyimide.

firepinto

RE: Stainless Steel Magnet Wire
« Reply #5, on March 31st, 2013, 07:28 PM »
Quote from HHOSteam on March 31st, 2013, 06:45 PM
I don’t think getting the SS Wire is going to be hard and nor should getting the Polyimide insulator.
The main question here is how does the coating process work to insulate the wire with the Polyimaide?
I should have access to a 3D printer shortly and have a Lathe and Min Mill to make all the parts that I need for this process. If anyone can help me understand the process then I would be more than happy to try and make something to insulate the wire with Polyimide.
I think your just going to have to experiment with different ideas.  I don't believe so far that we have any members here that have had experience working in a wire enamel coating.  
My thoughts are picturing enamel buckets with pulleys mounted in the bottom that the wire travels through slowly to get dipped, then run a distance to air dry or heat dry, then respooled.  Multiple dips (more dipping buckets in line?) for more layers are probably required.  Sounds to me like a rig like that would take up an entire 2 car garage.

You can also look up nylon coated stainless steel fishing wire.  Only problem is the smaller gauges aren't nylon coated.  Not impossible to get.

Nate

HHOSteam

RE: Stainless Steel Magnet Wire
« Reply #6, on March 31st, 2013, 08:06 PM »
I was kind of thinking the same thing!
I just want to avoid going through all the time and trouble of building something and then have someone point out that it needed to be done in a different way.
I may also contact Dupont and see what they have to say.
I'll be sure to post what I find.
Thanks again!