Did I call you names? Forget Meyers other ways according to you, let the people experiment for themselves and stop telling them not to experiment. They will find out for themselves if it works or not without you.
Nav, I need for you to attack the concept not other members of this forum. Stay focused, behave like an adult and do your part to solve this mystery. GPS meant you no harm. Now back to work...
You were explaining how the cell must physically vibrate. Can you please work the numbers and show us what the minimum and maximum frequencies of this vibration can be? What are the bounds? If the resonance is physical and not necessarily electrical, it will have a very straight forward set of limits based on the cell design.
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My apologies to GPS, I was a little harsh.
I've already built a system to do this Dog-one. I spent a few days pondering about resonance and thinking which part of the cell could have the potential to be resonant. There are several different aspects of steel tube or plate that have a potential. Firstly the molecular build up of the SS itself has a potential, the molecular resonance of the alloy bonding but I discounted it because it would be almost impossible to replicate oscillations in that range which would be in really high frequencies, water would be up there too.
Obviously working as a capacitor the plates have an electrical potential based on the dielectric constant of the water or air gap but that potential in the water has huge limitations. Tap water and varying different types of tap water present you with a problem in high voltage situations. The breakdown voltage across the dielectric would be almost incalculable in a conductive dielectric such as tap water without having firstly a current measuring device in the water which would be phase lock looped to both your tank circuit and voltage frequencies but that is for another date to discuss.
Actually vibrating the tubes like a pipe organ seems firstly to be clutching at straws but then when you actually think about it, it starts getting interesting. The questions raised in such a arrangement would be these:
1. Do you vibrate one tube or both?
2. If you vibrate both tubes in phase what type of cancellation would take place and will it affect the water in a different way?
3. What affect on water do these vibrations have in situations where you have an electrical field (capacitance) and one where you have no electric field?
4. Insulating one of the plates so current leakage is impossible in the cap, will this affect the vibrations?
5. Would it be possible that Meyers resonant chokes besides acting electrically in a tank circuit could actually be tuned to the acoustic resonance of the tubes through their electromagnetic field, similar to a tattoo gun but act in a different proximity range?
6. Finally, would it be possible to have the tubes vibrating at an acoustic resonance which could be matched by a tank circuit's resonance and your input voltage frequency? Have all three variables in phase?
Obviously all different lengths of pipes and plates have different acoustic frequencies and resonance, we know this through tuning forks and we know that tuning forks have a proximity range and cannot work in a vacuum.
I have set up some apparatus to find all these questions out and will be testing in the next few months.
The cell limit will be based on the acoustic resonance of the tubes which we have to find out but make no mistake, the tubes will have that resonant frequency because everything on this planet will naturally vibrate if the conditions are right including yourself.