This video link should generate some interest.  Following other links will show the forum and how to build it with parts list and all info.  ALL FOR FREE.  No strings attached.  I have OPEN SOURCED  all information about it and maybe someday someone  replicating it might achieve overunity if thats at all possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doTmxxLW9Rs

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sat-gen/

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Tom_Ferko's_Satellite_Generator

Tom Ferko

Quote from POPSCAN1 on February 19th, 2013, 03:37 PM

This video link should generate some interest.  Following other links will show the forum and how to build it with parts list and all info.  ALL FOR FREE.  No strings attached.  I have OPEN SOURCED  all information about it and maybe someday someone  replicating it might achieve overunity if thats at all possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doTmxxLW9Rs

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sat-gen/

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Tom_Ferko's_Satellite_Generator

Tom Ferko

Awesome work Tom.  Much appreciate you sharing what you have accomplished.

thanks for posting tom,

i hope it brings some more interest to the device so people will replicate!

OPEN SOURCE!! its the only way we will all make some real progress in this world!!

:)

~Russ

Thanks for sharing, worth checking out

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 19th, 2013, 09:23 PM

thanks for posting tom,

i hope it brings some more interest to the device so people will replicate!

OPEN SOURCE!! its the only way we will all make some real progress in this world!!

:)

~Russ

So far the forum has over 45 members and it seems like most are watching what I am doing.  If someone is replicating the motor generator They are doing it without posting that fact.  The main item for anyone trying to build is the powerbox which must be built first.  You can power the box with any DC voltage but 12 to 24 volts DC are the best choices.  Batterys or wall powerpacks can be used to supply the DC power.

I found a single 5 watt led lamp works better than the 4 one watt lamps in series shown on the schematic diagram.
That lamp can be found on Ebay for less than $5.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110V-AC-5-Watt-LED-White-Light-Bulb-E27-5W-USA-Seller-/281048916137#vi-content

I have been continuously updating my experimental work on this motor generator so If anyone is extremely interested in building I can supply them with my latest findings.  Presently I am at the point where I  will attempt to take 29 DC volts output power and direct 24 volts back into the input to see what happens..

I can tell everyone for certain that this is the most interesting device I have ever experimented with and I have been at this for 35 plus years.  Simple to construct and inexpensive.  And best of all----IT WORKS.

Tom

Quote from POPSCAN1 on February 19th, 2013, 03:37 PM

This video link should generate some interest.  Following other links will show the forum and how to build it with parts list and all info.  ALL FOR FREE.  No strings attached.  I have OPEN SOURCED  all information about it and maybe someday someone  replicating it might achieve overunity if thats at all possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doTmxxLW9Rs

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sat-gen/

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Tom_Ferko's_Satellite_Generator

Tom Ferko

Thx Tom, i have put your invention earlier up (project 3) in the thread about doable devices.
http://www.open-source-energy.org/?tid=784&pid=9028#pid9028

But good that you are here and approachable for it, so now maybe some more builders will come to the front.

Sure, it's a doable device.
But is it worth it in terms of our energy problem? (next years I'll fail paying the bill if prices continue to increase and reach tens of thousands). The problem is this device, though a potential battery replacement, is neither overunity (and tom not claims that) nor does it produce energy (like wind, water turbine).

Currently it's more like:

• batteries -> drive circuit -> transformer -> magnet -> magnetic fields -> flywheel -> rotate and waste (because of losses, even battery submits losses here) -> consumer appliances

Can't we take it from the batteries directly then?

If we put it on the doable devices list we should note that it's a energy storage technology where losses depend on flywheel air friction/bearings/drive circuit power losses, ...
Rectifying as shown in the circuit & friction will be disastrous energy losses once you want to save more energy (as we want when powering our homes, don't we?).

I would keep out the drive circuit & transformer completely:
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• Instead of rectifying the AC line current, driving a transformer, using roundabout way via magnetic field I would use the 60 Hz AC (from e.g. a AC wind turbine) directly (=> NO losses here) and

• drive a high efficiency (> 96%) axial flux AC motor. (rpm depends on drive signal frequency, fixed here, no motor controller needed).

• Fix a flywheel to the motor.

• Once the flywheel has speeded up fully, the flywheel will disconnect the AC line via mechanical switch automatically using centrifugal forces.
  
• How that works? - I think of a sliding piston as contactor switch. It is fixed on an electrically isolated axial rod of the flywheel (like on a bicycle spoke) in such a way that it can slide from the center to the outer and has contact to the center during slow rotation.

Now, the quicker the wheel turns the higher the centrifugal forces on the movable outer sliding piston. (F_centrifugal = m * v^2 / radius) Once the centrifugal force reaches a certain level, the two contactors (axle & piston) will separate, hence disconnecting the flywheel motor from the AC power line. Now imaging taking two (four) opposite 180° (90°) apart sliding piston contactors instead of one.

• Then we ensure voltage supply to the motor/flywheel if at least one of the two (four) pistons is in contact with the axle - where the AC line goes in. This ensures that the motor gets accelerated if it slows down. (if just using one sliding contactor it is possible that gravity pulls the piston to the outer of the flywheel, away from the axle, thus no longer contact due to insulation, resulting in a not working storage machine).

Same effect, less losses (only air friction and motor losses 4% but it's only used for startup -- if not using magnet bearings friction has to be included). Automatic switch off and on mechanical construction. => robust, simple -- + since now also open source.  :)

A sketch render of the rough idea. (Using 3 sliding contactors.) Have to think about how to combine schematic/wiring with good overview ...
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Quote from jonardaron on May 9th, 2013, 12:03 PM

Sure, it's a doable device.
But is it worth it in terms of our energy problem? (next years I'll fail paying the bill if prices continue to increase and reach tens of thousands). The problem is this device, though a potential battery replacement, is neither overunity (and tom not claims that) nor does it produce energy (like wind, water turbine).

Currently it's more like:

• batteries -> drive circuit -> transformer -> magnet -> magnetic fields -> flywheel -> rotate and waste (because of losses, even battery submits losses here) -> consumer appliances

Can't we take it from the batteries directly then?

If we put it on the doable devices list we should note that it's a energy storage technology where losses depend on flywheel air friction/bearings/drive circuit power losses, ...
Rectifying as shown in the circuit & friction will be disastrous energy losses once you want to save more energy (as we want when powering our homes, don't we?).

I would keep out the drive circuit & transformer completely:
[list=1]

• Instead of rectifying the AC line current, driving a transformer, using roundabout way via magnetic field I would use the 60 Hz AC (from e.g. a AC wind turbine) directly (=> NO losses here) and

• drive a high efficiency (> 96%) axial flux AC motor. (rpm depends on drive signal frequency, fixed here, no motor controller needed).

• Fix a flywheel to the motor.

• Once the flywheel has speeded up fully, the flywheel will disconnect the AC line via mechanical switch automatically using centrifugal forces.
  
• How that works? - I think of a sliding piston as contactor switch. It is fixed on an electrically isolated axial rod of the flywheel (like on a bicycle spoke) in such a way that it can slide from the center to the outer and has contact to the center during slow rotation.

Now, the quicker the wheel turns the higher the centrifugal forces on the movable outer sliding piston. (F_centrifugal = m * v^2 / radius) Once the centrifugal force reaches a certain level, the two contactors (axle & piston) will separate, hence disconnecting the flywheel motor from the AC power line. Now imaging taking two (four) opposite 180° (90°) apart sliding piston contactors instead of one.

• Then we ensure voltage supply to the motor/flywheel if at least one of the two (four) pistons is in contact with the axle - where the AC line goes in. This ensures that the motor gets accelerated if it slows down. (if just using one sliding contactor it is possible that gravity pulls the piston to the outer of the flywheel, away from the axle, thus no longer contact due to insulation, resulting in a not working storage machine).

Same effect, less losses (only air friction and motor losses 4% but it's only used for startup -- if not using magnet bearings friction has to be included). Automatic switch off and on mechanical construction. => robust, simple -- + since now also open source.  :)

Hi,

Why should I go that route when presently I am powering the motor generator with 2.6 DC watts and getting 23 DC watts of energy  at the output.  Two government agencys are already looking at it.

Join the forum and bulid one for yourself.  I posted all info as to how to do it by open sourcing

Tom

It's simpler? But else true, if true (your stated 10 x power gain).
In PESWiki there is not mentioned any output. Must re-read it. Surely it's my fault.

Will check in the yahoo group ... where do have the output? Connected a generator to the flywheel?
We must think of where the energy is coming from. Do you already have an idea, Tom?

Couldn't we amplify the power output by the centrifugal system? I mean, it's minimizing the losses.
--

Made a video showing the principle, to support the afterwards added still from above.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvumfB0DnSY

Quote from jonardaron on May 9th, 2013, 05:22 PM

It's simpler? But else true, if true (your stated 10 x power gain).
In PESWiki there is not mentioned any output. Must re-read it. Surely it's my fault.

Will check in the yahoo group ... where do have the output? Connected a generator to the flywheel?
We must think of where the energy is coming from. Do you already have an idea, Tom?

Couldn't we amplify the power output by the centrifugal system? I mean, it's minimizing the losses.
--

Made a video showing the principle, to support the afterwards added still from above.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvumfB0DnSY

I have been steadily working on the motor generator and 59 people are in the forum.  Presently the setup uses 2.6 watts to operate from a 12 volt RUN battery  The output charging a 12 volt CHARGE battery  is between 18 to 23 watts depending if you are charging a 2.3 AH battery or a 12 AH  sealed lead acid battery.  All metering done with an accurate DC amp meter and DC volt meter.  One person in the forum has almost finished replication.

Two government agencies are interested   You can find out a lot more recent information by checking into the forum below.

I have constructed a lot of earlier ideas and posted them at the time.  Stopped all that and am concentrating on just the latest motor generator.

I hope if anyone has different ideas please build what I have freely shown and  then branch off with your own thoughts at your own expense.
Tom                                      Join the forum.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sat-gen/

I have taken a look at it. - And am shocked - i.e. have loads of questions.

• Looks similar to John Bedini's Simplified School Girl Motor (replacing the pickup coil triggering with Hall-effect triggering.)?

• What you measure is overunity in the same sense as Bedini propagates? A pulse motor, harnesting EMF spikes with capacitors.

• The guys from overunity say, it's a usual pulse motor, and not overunity but highly efficient as you stated in the beginning, too.

• Now you suddenly state, it's overunity with COP > 10. This would be the revolution.

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So the logical next step is to go self-looped to confirm the COP. I hope you that that done in your new version of the generator.
As you were able to utilize a bunch of high-tech electronics, my respect, it will be no problem for you to replace the run battery by the charge battery.

Energy at the output can be converted to the input level, or you change the ciruit to completely AC - including the generator pattern if possible.
Not sure if there will be any problem with the non-linearity of the circuit - anyway if feeding the output in a switching 'lossless' voltage regulator, every should be fine for a new startoff for the current at the terminals of the former RUN-battery. This would render RUN-battery obsolete and exchange the CHARGE-battery with a capacitor.
Here is a rough sketch idea of the self-loop part. I think the devices experts will manage it to self-loop. That will clarify. Until then, we have to wait and try to get order in the currently rather expensive 'free' energy chaos.
[attachment=3735]

A latching relay with a ten minute timer would do the trick.  A latching relay just has a little plunger that sticks one way; give it an opposite polarity pulse and it sticks the other way.  With these devices you don't need continuous current draw to keep the contacts where you want them.  Works just like the old knife switch, but electrically controlled.  Use something like this to toggle between the two batteries and just let it go for a week or two and see if the batteries remain fully charged.

If it passes that test, then add a calibrated load to the device input side and let it go another couple of weeks.  That would tell you all you need to know.  Within a month you would have your answer.  All you need is to prove the total watt hours delivered to the load exceeds the combined capacity of the two batteries.  That's it, really simple.  Do that and even Smart Scarecrow will be a believer.

This is incredible! Why hasn't this post received more attention!? This is free energy.

Hook it up to electrolysis and there ya go! If this works, then Stan Meyer's water powered dune buggy becomes obsolete. Instead of complicated spark plugs that are difficult to build with 20/1000-inch-tapering concentric injection channels (which we don't have tools to build), electron capture via orbital energy level augmentation with red led tube arrays (which has yet to be successfully confirmed), and sonic wave electromagnetic frequency pulse induced resonance disassociation of molecules, lets just use water and electrodes and a catalyst.

The "Brute Force" large quantity production of HHO does work to power an ICE when watts are not an issue. With this motor, there's no more COP issues, just crank out the Brown's.  

If you combine this idea with a solar/sterling and a Fresnel lens you can power an electric vehicle with on demand energy! No battery needed, just sunlight. Even partial sunlight will operate a magnified solar sterling motor which would provide more than enough power to get the Ferko started. Useless after dark but either wayt-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CDCTANU8Tfk

Mr2Tuff2 just posted a solar powered electric golf cart on SuspicousObservers' daily 4 min news. I noticed his golf cart had several large batteries charging the motor (also a sweet little RC mower).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z0oQdy3sCE&feature=player_detailpage

Imagine the Ferko Motor, initially powered by a Fresnel Lens Solar Sterling instead of solar panels. Free locomotion from dawn til dusk. Or put an alternator on the electrolysis monster and fill the tank with water. I love when a new idea comes along. Energy production reminds me of playing with legos, a new set that I can take apart and recombine with existing pieces.

Question. Can the output be routed back to the input and reduced with resistors to prevent runaway feedback? This would eliminate the need for a battery and theoretically run forever producing power. No?