RE-EMF Charger

rfnreynders

RE-EMF Charger
« on October 17th, 2012, 10:29 AM »Last edited on October 24th, 2012, 01:35 PM by rfnreynders
For those that know about Bedini's chargers, that play with battery's.
And those that know a little about the Joule Thief.

I've got a little something for you....

How about a very effective , easy to build battery charger that uses the applied energy not only super efficient, but in a sence twice !

A charger that can charge, non rechargable battery's , rechargable battery's , lead acid battery's  or Bedini's cristal cells. Without heating up the battery.

Restoring almost dead lead acid battery's if left charging over night(s), desulfating them.

Cost of the circuit... around 2 dollars... Now thats fun !

Enjoy !  :heart:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKa4zneaRQ&feature=plcp

Rene R.


geenee

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #1, on October 17th, 2012, 10:58 PM »
Good modify circuit.

thanks
geenee

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #2, on October 20th, 2012, 03:47 PM »
Very cool,

How do i make the Joile Theif coil?

Thanks
Kevin

FaradayEZ

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #3, on October 20th, 2012, 05:03 PM »Last edited on October 23rd, 2012, 03:28 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from rfnreynders on October 17th, 2012, 10:29 AM
For those that know about Bedini's chargers, that play with battery's.
And those that know a little about the Joule Thief.

I've got a little something for you....

How about a very effective , easy to build battery charger that uses the applied energy not only super efficient, but in a sence twice !

A charger that can charge, non rechargable battery's , rechargable battery's , lead acid battery's  or Bedini's cristal cells. Without heating up the battery.

Restoring almost dead lead acid battery's if left charging over night(s), desulfating them.

Cost of the circuit... around 2 dollars... Now thats fun !

Enjoy !  :heart:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKa4zneaRQ&feature=plcp

Rene R.
Mooi gevonden Rene!!

Ik ben geen electronica kenner maar deze setup lekt minder stroom weg en is dus efficienter :)

English :
Liked Rene!

I am not an electronics expert but this setup leak less power and is therefore more efficient way


Lynx

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #4, on October 21st, 2012, 04:12 AM »
Thanks for sharing.
Could you provide some data on the bifilar wound 'joule thief' please?
Thanks.

rfnreynders

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #5, on October 22nd, 2012, 12:22 PM »Last edited on October 23rd, 2012, 03:29 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Hi All,

Watch This clip :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLnyTdqkg

It explains the basic joule thief and how the coil is wound, is easy to see.

Check out my first clip on my youtube page to see how you can make the circuit more effective and then, build this charger. You'll know how it works and why !  :-)

Enjoy
Quote from FaradayEZ on October 20th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Quote from rfnreynders on October 17th, 2012, 10:29 AM
For those that know about Bedini's chargers, that play with battery's.
And those that know a little about the Joule Thief.

I've got a little something for you....

How about a very effective , easy to build battery charger that uses the applied energy not only super efficient, but in a sence twice !

A charger that can charge, non rechargable battery's , rechargable battery's , lead acid battery's  or Bedini's cristal cells. Without heating up the battery.

Restoring almost dead lead acid battery's if left charging over night(s), desulfating them.

Cost of the circuit... around 2 dollars... Now thats fun !

Enjoy !  :heart:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKa4zneaRQ&feature=plcp

Rene R.
Mooi gevonden Rene!!

Ik ben geen electronica kenner maar deze setup lekt minder stroom weg en is dus efficienter :)
Dat was het hele idee   :-)

Daarbij krijg je een dubbel effect.
1 - je laad de batterij met een reguliere laad puls.
2 - Daarna worden de ionen in het electrolite (het zuur van de accu) wordt los geslagen door de back-emf puls, die ca. 20x hoger ligt dan de reguliere laad puls.
Hierdoor is de accu veeeeeellll sneller op zijn maximale laad spannings niveau.

Tom Bearden legt in een van zijn seminars uit waarom die hoge korte spannings zo effectief zijn bij batterijen/accu's en dergelijke

English:
That was the whole idea :-)

In addition, you get a double effect.
1 - you charge the battery with a regular pulse loading.
2 - Then the ions in the electrolyte lite (the acid from the battery) is loosely beaten by the back-emf pulse, which is approximately 20 times higher than the regular charge pulse.
This is the battery faster veeeeeellll its maximum charging voltage level.

Tom Bearden explains in one of his seminars explain how such high voltage short as effective in batteries / rechargeable batteries and such

Lynx

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #6, on October 22nd, 2012, 01:20 PM »
Thanks for the clip.
He has some interesting projects there :cool:

~Russ

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #7, on October 23rd, 2012, 03:30 AM »
i used Google translate and added it to the posts in this thread. :) if you don't mined doing that for me in the future! lol i cant read it! :)

~Russ

Jeff Nading

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #8, on October 23rd, 2012, 06:42 PM »
Very cool dude.:D

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #9, on October 23rd, 2012, 06:45 PM »
I don't think i have one of these toroids around the house.

Could you please post your torrid dia., number of windings, and thickness of wire if you dont mind. I can get the pieces i need new at my parts store.

Thanks
Kevin

rfnreynders

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #10, on October 24th, 2012, 01:27 PM »Last edited on October 24th, 2012, 01:33 PM by rfnreynders
Haha, sorry,

I wil translate that in the future... didn't think of that.
thought.. That Russ, smart guy, must surely speak dutch very well ! lol...

:angel:  :P
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:30 AM
i used Google translate and added it to the posts in this thread. :) if you don't mined doing that for me in the future! lol i cant read it! :)

~Russ

I picked a torroid that was already wound. Both coils between 20-30 windings.
I don't know the thickness.

Just make sure the wire is thick enough to transfer the mount of amps you want to push.

The toroid i use now is aprox. 3 cm in diameter

But i tried smaller and bigger ones. Both work.
If you want to use more amps, the toroid has to be bigger.

sorry, hoped to inform you more, but this is all i can tell you for now.
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on October 23rd, 2012, 06:45 PM
I don't think i have one of these toroids around the house.

Could you please post your torrid dia., number of windings, and thickness of wire if you dont mind. I can get the pieces i need new at my parts store.

Thanks
Kevin

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #11, on October 24th, 2012, 09:53 PM »
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Can I use  2n3055?  I cannot find ne3055

Thanks


KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #13, on October 25th, 2012, 02:25 PM »
Quote from Lynx on October 25th, 2012, 01:51 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on October 24th, 2012, 09:53 PM
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Can I use  2n3055?  I cannot find ne3055

Thanks
No problem, same same ;)
Ok thanks. I built a larger version, but not working right.
I have 24V battery feeding the system. The battery being charged is a 12V. it gets a slight rising in voltage if I turn down the potentiometer, but I don't see any voltage spikes on my scope, so it doesn't seem like its working correctly,

I also wasn't to clear about the Bifilar coil.
The 2 leads that are connected together, are they from opposite sides of the coil? And does it matter which way the other leads are connected, or can they be connected either way.

Thanks
Kevin

rfnreynders

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #14, on October 25th, 2012, 03:19 PM »
Kevin, it is essential to use a bi-filar coil and to use the right connections.

Picture this. Wind two coils parallel.
Call them coil A and B
Connect the end of coil B to the beginning of coil A.
This is where you connect the +
use the end of coil A to connect the resistor -> Base
use the beginning of coil B to connect to the collector.

This should do it.
Look on youtube for "how to build a joule thief"
You'll find several clips with the discription about the bi-filar coil.

cheers,

Rene

The back emf should be pretty high. Measuring is hard, so you could connect a capacitor with a diode across "coil B" then measure the capacitor...

cheers again :-)
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on October 25th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Quote from Lynx on October 25th, 2012, 01:51 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on October 24th, 2012, 09:53 PM
I

Can I use  2n3055?  I cannot find ne3055

Thanks
No problem, same same ;)
Ok thanks. I built a larger version, but not working right.
I have 24V battery feeding the system. The battery being charged is a 12V. it gets a slight rising in voltage if I turn down the potentiometer, but I don't see any voltage spikes on my scope, so it doesn't seem like its working correctly,

I also wasn't to clear about the Bifilar coil.
The 2 leads that are connected together, are they from opposite sides of the coil? And does it matter which way the other leads are connected, or can they be connected either way.

Thanks
Kevin

Lynx

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #15, on October 26th, 2012, 12:02 AM »Last edited on October 26th, 2012, 12:16 AM by Lynx
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Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on October 25th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Quote from Lynx on October 25th, 2012, 01:51 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on October 24th, 2012, 09:53 PM
I

Can I use  2n3055?  I cannot find ne3055

Thanks
No problem, same same ;)
Ok thanks. I built a larger version, but not working right.
I have 24V battery feeding the system. The battery being charged is a 12V. it gets a slight rising in voltage if I turn down the potentiometer, but I don't see any voltage spikes on my scope, so it doesn't seem like its working correctly,

I also wasn't to clear about the Bifilar coil.
The 2 leads that are connected together, are they from opposite sides of the coil? And does it matter which way the other leads are connected, or can they be connected either way.

Thanks
Kevin
I don't understand that connect 2 leads together thing, in the schematic found
on Youtube there's 4 separate leads alltogether connected in a way to make a
complete circuit.
However, I haven't made a joule thief myself, but if I would it would be
according to this schematic.
I guess this would also work if you want to charge a 24V battery using 12V, but
if you want it to crank some amps into the battery during charging maybe you
should connect a low ohm power resistor in series with the red wire going to
the collector in order not to fry the 3055...........?
I'm also guessing that if you'd want a few amps out of the circuit you'd have to
use like 14 gague wire or something, just to prevent the toroid from melting :D

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: RE-EMF Charger
« Reply #16, on October 26th, 2012, 11:15 AM »Last edited on October 26th, 2012, 11:17 AM by KevinW_EnhancedLiving
Here is the Joule ringer 3 that is looking very promising for restoring batteries
Super Joule Ringer 2.0 LaserHacker.com + New Joule Ringer 3.0
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=667&pid=9085#pid9085


Check out these two videos on my post #8:
-Super Turbo Battery Charger
-Restoring Old Batteries with Joule Ringer 3.0