SGWN Generator 300 KW

dennisforrest

SGWN Generator 300 KW
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Hello,
anyone know something about this new generator?
Some facts I collected:

Looks to be an Arabian company that claims to have found a way to use Gyroscopic Procession to create 300 KW 24/7 from a 2 KW momentary 3 minute input just to start the device.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qj3B2c_4iU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_op6_6IRYY8

Inventors:

  • Ing. Mahmoud Yagub
  • Dr. Tarek Ramadan Ibraim Ali Hashem
  • Ing. Marcello Patti

Basically this system operates in a cycle, using a combination of two effects:
1) gyroscopic precession
2) gyroscopic lift ( which is the inverse of precession)

Both of these effects occur without disturbance to the rotation of the gyro.
The motor spins at a multiple of 60HZ.
And each stage in the process occurs at 60HZ.


First stage, the counterbalance drops slightly within the Gravitational field, to produce gyroscopic  precession.
Second stage, precession slows, to cause gyroscopic lift.

A secondary mechanism is provided to convert gravitational Potential, provided by gyroscopic lift, into mechanical energy to turn the generator.
A portion of generator current is fed back into the drive motor.

Resources:

S.G.W.N Generator - English.pdf

Italian Article about this invention



alloytam

Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
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great infor you have here
thanks for sharing

Matt Watts

Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
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If this power plant is for real and it truly is using gyros, Russ will figure it out.  He can visualize the mechanical parts that make it tick.  What he needs of course is time to focus--something we all lack these days.

dennisforrest

Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
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There's some images that shows the construction, but what I does not understand is if the "truncated cone" shape is a real needed design or simply a way to cover and mislead the real device contained.

I found this patent:

https://www.google.com/patents/US7375436

that works on gyroscope precession effect, but the device shape seems different.

Matt Watts

Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
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Quote from dennisforrest on February 10th, 2017, 06:09 AM
There's some images that shows the construction, but what I does not understand is if the "truncated cone" shape is a real needed design or simply a way to cover and mislead the real device contained.
Seems to me the conical shape of each module is angled in such a way to force precession against gravity.  I would imagine inside those conical modules are a metal race, like a bearing race, where the mechanical component rides.  I highly doubt this race is level to the earth, but instead tilted slightly working like a cam of sorts.  As the gyro speed increases, it raises the mechanism into contact with the race.  When it touches, precession starts creating a powerful torque to the final drive shaft.  My guess is this torque is only available for one half revolution or thereabouts; certainly not for a full revolution.  If true, this would explain why there are stacks of modules, each probably aligned in such a way where torque is provided to the generator smoothly for a full revolution.

What I am pretty sure of at this point is the SGWN unit must be properly levelled to earth.  Gravity and the pulling angle against the gyroscopic mechanism seems to be the key concept.  In other words, you won't find any running SGWN units sitting horizontal--they must be vertically mounted and balanced.

I've been thinking about the shafts and drive mechanism for this device.  With the prime mover placed on the very top, there must be a central shaft, or power take off that spins up the gyros in each module.  With only one such motor, each module must pass through it a central drive line.  Within each module a gearing mechanism transfers rotation from the central drive shaft to the gyro.  Simple enough.  Where things get tricky is how the precession is collected and transferred down to the main generator.  I'm guessing there must be a hollow shaft with bearings inside and outside.  The outside bearings are supported by the framework and the inside bearings support the inner drive shaft.  This hollow shaft then is connected to each module's mechanism where the precession torque is collected.  What I'm not clear on is how a lower module accesses the inner drive shaft when there is a hollow output power shaft surrounding it.  There would have to be some slots cut in the hollow output power shaft with gears/rollers exposed to transfer the rotation.

Or...

Each module gets its input drive from above and precessing output power goes out the bottom.  This method would lend itself better to the stacking we see in the final design, where each module becomes a torque amplifier.  And as we see, each module is essentially a scaled-up version of the module above it.  This method would then lend itself to having particular units of scale all based on the number of modules stacked and the size of the first module.  Since torque in this scheme would be pulsing, I'm guessing each module has a properly sized flywheel attached to the bottom output drive.

Again, if the SGWN is the real thing and works as advertised, it certainly should be possible to devise some experiments to demonstrate the mode of operation.  Unfortunately, precision machined mechanical parts are not something most of us have laying around or can readily make.  Based on what I see so far, one would have to have the math down pretty solid before designing any parts and having them machined.  Maybe this is something that could be tried with 3D printing and a handful of bearings and calibrated weight slugs.  I'm just not certain.


dennisforrest

Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
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Hello @Matt, great explanation... have you time to draw a schema about your idea?

In some of the images in the first video is it possible to see the motor shaft (maybe):

https://screenpresso.com/=rRsze

that is not vertical, this means it's free to move inside the cone, and maybe through an universal joint?

Here some other shoots:

https://screenpresso.com/=7efWb

than, the motor shaft seems attached exactly at the center of the base of the cone, and the rest of the cone maybe is empty (?).

https://screenpresso.com/=3NuOe



Matt Watts

Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
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We need to find that patent.


One other thing, the SGWN or expanded to "Stop Global Warming Now" title needs to disappear.  This whole cesspool of filth from the likes of Al Gore is nothing but a ploy to shift the responsibility of governments and corporations onto the backs of us little people that have no choice but to use what we are given to survive.  Global warming is the least of our problems.  Toxic materials that are destroying our planet is what we need to focus on and find a way to clean up.  And you know by now governments and corporations aren't about to lift a finger to fund such an effort.  Just look at the Fukushima Daiichi disaster as clear enough evidence we are on our own.

Cycle

Re: SGWN Generator 300 KW
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And they just found that radiation levels in the core are much, much higher than they'd previously thought... so high that even robots can't survive.