Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 2nd, 2012, 03:28 AM

Watch full length.

"Someone is performing experiments on this"
That be you, Russ :D
Interesting with the AC "jacob's ladder", perhaps something to add on at some
point in time?
Thanks for sharing.

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 2nd, 2012, 01:28 AM

Possibly the best video posted on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMtRKJh8ZYg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Things like this is why I do what I do have fun smile enjoy life kids are the best ;)

God bless Robert!

~Russ

Junior of the junior members, cool.:cool::D:P

Regarding the video: "It’s not HHO, Cold fusion & the Papp engine."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foIWltOShO0&feature=player_embedded

In the video, the speaker sites a 23% improvement in engine efficiency due to HHO based nuclear reactions.

He then draws a comparison between HHO and the Papp reaction.

The speaker references this paper by  R.A. Oriani and J.C. Fisher

www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/OrianiRAenergeticc.pdf

Then the speaker speculates that an unknown neutron like substance catalyzes alpha particle emissions as a result of electrolysis.


Being a fan of LeClair, I believe this speculation is true.


From the work of LeClair, we know that a water crystal exists and this superatom is a Brown’s gas seed.


The water crystal is produced either by cavatation or an electric arc.


https://nanospireinc.com/Fusion.html



Also see “Protonated water clusters” in this reference:

http://gupea.ub.gu.se/bitstream/2077/28349/1/gupea_2077_28349_1.pdf

This water based superatom will catalyze the lowering of the coulomb barrier of atoms in the combustion plasma of a car cylinder and produce LENR based nuclear fission, fusion and alpha decay in that container.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superatom

But the speaker jumps to an unsupported conclusion: The unknown electrolytic substance (water crystals) is central to the Papp reaction. I doubt this is true for the Papp reaction, but superatom formation using other elements cannot be ruled out at this juncture.

From what I have seen in that various demos of the Papp engine, water is not used as a Papp reactant.

If a superatom LENR catalyst is produced, Xenon would be the best candidate for its crystallization/ionization.

The Papp reaction is probably based on the production of a supersonic shockwave.

In the same way that the LeClair water crystals produce a supersonic shockwave in the LeClair reactor, an Xenon superatom will catalyze a supersonic shockwave in the five noble gas mix of the popper.

Both hydrogen and nitrogen also can produce superatoms which is sometimes called Rydberg matter.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rydberg_matter

Experimentally determining the true basis of the Papp reaction is within reach of Russ’s experimental purview.

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 2nd, 2012, 03:28 AM

Watch full length.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foIWltOShO0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I agree, Watch full length everyone! This guy knows what he is talking about. He obviously wants someone else to build it so hes giving away all his ideas :)

Thanks Russ.

Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on November 3rd, 2012, 05:21 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 2nd, 2012, 03:28 AM

Watch full length.

I agree, Watch full length everyone! This guy knows what he is talking about. He obviously wants someone else to build it so hes giving away all his ideas :)

Thanks Russ.

Could not find the man on google search..wanted to mail him to help us.

Quote from Lynx on November 2nd, 2012, 12:55 AM

Quote from Babble on November 1st, 2012, 06:39 PM

Quote from Lynx on November 1st, 2012, 02:09 PM

Quote from Babble on November 1st, 2012, 01:09 PM

"HHO is Hydrogenoxide, which you get from electrolyses of water and what is used as browns gas. But the Oxide can be separated "


Isn't HHO the same as  H2O, which is water?

During electrolysis of water you get both H2 and O2 molecules, I.E out of 2 water
molecules you get 1 molecule containing 2 oxygen atoms and you also get 2
molecules made of 2 hydrogen atoms each.
http://www.hytechenergyeurope.com/mgs/researchimages/hho.png
Hope this helps.

I understand getting hydrogen and oxygen from water but it is not called HHO.

I'm afraid it is, it's a term used in fringe science, which a lot of the forum
members here are exploring btw, to describe the gas obtained through electrolysis
of water.
Another term used is Brown's gas, but it's easier to just use HHO.
And the beauty of HHO is that when you burn it you get water again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
Btw, what would you like to call it?

If you need a simple term call it H2+O2 for hydrogen and Oxygen but HHO seems to be talking about some other effect.  I watched the video, interesting.  Why doesn't he just go to an engine testing facility and see if he can inject the gases into an engine while on a dyno?  

Russ,
Lemons to lemonade.
If your Geiger counter goes wild, Check U.S. patent 4178524'
" Radioisotope photoelectric generator

Abstract

This disclosure is directed to a radioisotope photoelectric generator for producing electrical energy. The construction of the generator is similar to that of a well-known storage battery. The generator is composed of alternate layers of high-Z, (high atomic-number) and low-Z(low atomic number) material which are insulated by vacuum or other insulating material. Low-energy photons from a radioactive source interact predominantly with the high-Z material by the photoelectric process, ejecting photoelectrons whose energy extends up to the incident gamma-ray energy E. By selecting the high-Z material thickness to be less than one electron range (at energy E) and the low-Z material thickness to be more than one electron range, there is a net electron transfer from the high-Z plates to the low-Z plates because electrons are emitted predominantly from the high-Z plates and stop in the low-Z plates. After start-up, a potential difference will build up between the high-Z and low-Z plates. An upper limit for this potential difference in kilovolts is the energy E in keV. The high-Z plates are connected together electrically and the low-Z plates are connected together electrically thus forming a "battery. " The "battery" delivers power to an external electrical load, preferably but not necessarily a resistor, whose value is chosen to maximize the power delivered to the electrical load, to yield the voltage desired, to control the temperature of the plates, or a combination of such considerations. "
God reveals through you and all your contributors to this Forum.
Chan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FFkpMmoBT8I

Russ, the noble gases do not mix in centrifugal state but form layers according to their density. This is mentioned in the patents of Keshe, this centrifugal effect is indeed the basic principle of the Keshe reactor. Some reactors (described in the patents) may also change direction (turbulence) but retain the gas layers.

Geert

The layering of the noble gases inside the gas storage tank makes it difficult to thoroughly mix these gases before they are used in the popper.

I don’t think that the gas mixer that Russ built will do a proper job in mixing the noble gases together.

The light weight of helium and its propensity to rise can be turn from a problem into an advantage as follows:

The tank should be rotated end over end. This will force the helium to penetrate all the layers of the other noble gases. Such a rotation strategy will allow the walls of the tank to always force helium to the bottom of the tank in just one rotation cycle.

From this location, helium will be forced to rise under the influence of gravity through the layering and completely penetrate the other four layers of the noble gases.

When the tank is horizontally rotated, the smooth walls of the tank do not provide enough friction to force helium to the bottom of the noble gas layers.

To make vertical rotation more effective, the storage tank should be long and narrow to increase the linier distance that helium must raise. The distance that helium must travel is proportional to its efficiency, dispersion, and penetration of the other noble gas layers.

To test the ability of Russ’s new gas mixer to mix noble gases. Russ can fill a small balloon with the noble gas mixture then weigh it.

The experimental procedure is as follows:

Weight the balloon before it is filled with the noble gas mixture using a sensitive scale.

Fill it with a volume of the noble gas mix.

Now weight the balloon. If the balloon weighs less than the empty balloon, then the balloon is filled with only or mostly helium.

If the balloon rises, we know that Russ’s mixer is ineffective.

Quote from Babble on November 3rd, 2012, 01:22 PM

Quote from Lynx on November 2nd, 2012, 12:55 AM

Quote from Babble on November 1st, 2012, 06:39 PM

Quote from Lynx on November 1st, 2012, 02:09 PM

Quote from Babble on November 1st, 2012, 01:09 PM

FaradayEZ wrote:  "HHO is Hydrogenoxide, which you get from electrolyses of water and what is used as browns gas. But the Oxide can be separated "


Isn't HHO the same as  H2O, which is water?

During electrolysis of water you get both H2 and O2 molecules, I.E out of 2 water
molecules you get 1 molecule containing 2 oxygen atoms and you also get 2
molecules made of 2 hydrogen atoms each.
http://www.hytechenergyeurope.com/mgs/researchimages/hho.png
Hope this helps.

I understand getting hydrogen and oxygen from water but it is not called HHO.

I'm afraid it is, it's a term used in fringe science, which a lot of the forum
members here are exploring btw, to describe the gas obtained through electrolysis
of water.
Another term used is Brown's gas, but it's easier to just use HHO.
And the beauty of HHO is that when you burn it you get water again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
Btw, what would you like to call it?

If you need a simple term call it H2+O2 for hydrogen and Oxygen but HHO seems to be talking about some other effect.  I watched the video, interesting.  Why doesn't he just go to an engine testing facility and see if he can inject the gases into an engine while on a dyno?

What video do you mean?
My original quote was at the atomic welder video and further in this HHO discussion is no video mentioned?
HHO is used as a name because it gives the right representation of the gas and in the right amount..2 times H and 1 time O

And please if you quote me then leave my name also with it.

Quote from Axil on November 5th, 2012, 10:55 AM

The layering of the noble gases inside the gas storage tank makes it difficult to thoroughly mix these gases before they are used in the popper.

I don’t think that the gas mixer that Russ built will do a proper job in mixing the noble gases together.

The light weight of helium and its propensity to rise can be turn from a problem into an advantage as follows:

The tank should be rotated end over end. This will force the helium to penetrate all the layers of the other noble gases. Such a rotation strategy will allow the walls of the tank to always force helium to the bottom of the tank in just one rotation cycle.

From this location, helium will be forced to rise under the influence of gravity through the layering and completely penetrate the other four layers of the noble gases.

When the tank is horizontally rotated, the smooth walls of the tank do not provide enough friction to force helium to the bottom of the noble gas layers.

To make vertical rotation more effective, the storage tank should be long and narrow to increase the linier distance that helium must raise. The distance that helium must travel is proportional to its efficiency, dispersion, and penetration of the other noble gas layers.

To test the ability of Russ’s new gas mixer to mix noble gases. Russ can fill a small balloon with the noble gas mixture then weigh it.

The experimental procedure is as follows:

Weight the balloon before it is filled with the noble gas mixture using a sensitive scale.

Fill it with a volume of the noble gas mix.

Now weight the balloon. If the balloon weighs less than the empty balloon, then the balloon is filled with only or mostly helium.

If the balloon rises, we know that Russ’s mixer is ineffective.

Hmm how do you take your drink sir, shaken or stirred?

You assume that the inside cylinder walls are smooth, but maybe there are fins...

The ol'pappers didn't make a big fuss about this detail, but to be on the safe side Russ could (after spinning) topple over the cylinder a couple of times b4 he takes the gas for usage.

 

A suggested revision of Russ’s noble gas mixing device follows:

Strap the noble gas storage cylinder to a bicycle wheel.

Mount the bicycle wheel vertically so that the wheel rotates using a friction contact as is currently done by Russ’s mixing machine. A flat metal support connected to the wheel on the side opposite the cylinder might be a convenient way to mount and to support the wheel.

The other features of Russ’s gas mixer... timers, direction reversers etc… can stay the same.

The noble gas mixture should be removed from the cylinder immediately or as soon as possible when the cylinder lies in a horizontal position to minimize the possibility of gas layering.

Does anyone have a cite on the "layering" of gas mixtures?  I know you can get bodies of high molecular weight gasses to "pour" and hug the ground, but I thought that if you just let it thermally diffuse at room temperature, even the highest molecular weight gasses would mix thoroughly with low molecular weight gasses.

I can certainly believe that you'll get layering during plasma dynamics where the gasses are under enormous (albeit momentary) g-loading -- sort of like the separation of isotopes of Uranium via the Hexaflouride gas in an ultracentrifuge.

trying to get back here guys... been extremely bisy trying to get more work done on the popper and controls/cap bank/ignition and pree-ionization...

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I don’t think that the gas mixer that Russ built will do a proper job in mixing the noble gases together.

from all the manufactures they say it should do the job to "roll" the cylinder for at least 30Min

even it its smooth on the inside over 30 min it should mix up enough... ( think fluid in a cup. over time it should mix)  now one way to check is test it in the popper as we know before it did not work correctly.  (then it if it don't work mix it end over end as Axil said) and try again...

i can get to a scale sensitive enough to do the job so i can try that...
 
The manufacture puts it in the tank they use a small orifice and mix it that way... that's how they check the mix before they send it out.  

can some one find a paper or info some where that states this layering effect?

i need to show some other users on YT. the guys are saying it don't layer... lol  we know it dose but i need a publication paper some where???

more as soon as i can... trying to use my time wisely but i am reading just no time to respond at the moment... HAAAAA !!! ! :)

thanks for all the fantastic thoughts. after i get the control and other stuff done i'm going to start on the tests in the doc here... :)

EZ: please put a note in the doc some where to try a small orifice with a balloon on it on the chamber... i think it may have been mentioned but this will be a test i want to not forget.  i want to see the slow ionization via a balloon size... ( after the leaky cup this may tel us some more interesting info about whats going on in there... ) THX

~Russ

Quote from Axil on November 5th, 2012, 12:37 PM

A suggested revision of Russ’s noble gas mixing device follows:

Strap the noble gas storage cylinder to a bicycle wheel.

Mount the bicycle wheel vertically so that the wheel rotates using a friction contact as is currently done by Russ’s mixing machine. A flat metal support connected to the wheel on the side opposite the cylinder might be a convenient way to mount and to support the wheel.

The other features of Russ’s gas mixer... timers, direction reversers etc… can stay the same.

The noble gas mixture should be removed from the cylinder immediately or as soon as possible when the cylinder lies in a horizontal position to minimize the possibility of gas layering.

Flanigan has a vortex like twister device where Russ cylinder could be mixed..
If he would be approached in the popper way..

And why not fill the needles while'st still turning the device? (with a hose)

And keep shaking the needless offcourse...

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 6th, 2012, 03:13 AM

trying to get back here guys... been extremely bisy trying to get more work done on the popper and controls/cap bank/ignition and pree-ionization...

Do you have the video on when you work at the popperstuff?

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 6th, 2012, 03:13 AM

EZ: please put a note in the doc some where to try a small orifice with a balloon on it on the chamber... i think it may have been mentioned but this will be a test i want to not forget.  i want to see the slow ionization via a balloon size... ( after the leaky cup this may tel us some more interesting info about whats going on in there... ) THX

~Russ

Done, i'll uploade v1.6 within 10 minutes from now

Quote from FaradayEZ on November 6th, 2012, 04:53 AM

Quote from Axil on November 5th, 2012, 12:37 PM

A suggested revision of Russ’s noble gas mixing device follows:

Strap the noble gas storage cylinder to a bicycle wheel.

Mount the bicycle wheel vertically so that the wheel rotates using a friction contact as is currently done by Russ’s mixing machine. A flat metal support connected to the wheel on the side opposite the cylinder might be a convenient way to mount and to support the wheel.

The other features of Russ’s gas mixer... timers, direction reversers etc… can stay the same.

The noble gas mixture should be removed from the cylinder immediately or as soon as possible when the cylinder lies in a horizontal position to minimize the possibility of gas layering.

Flanigan has a vortex like twister device where Russ cylinder could be mixed..
If he would be approached in the popper way..

And why not fill the needles while'st still turning the device? (with a hose)

And keep shaking the needless offcourse...

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 6th, 2012, 03:13 AM

trying to get back here guys... been extremely bisy trying to get more work done on the popper and controls/cap bank/ignition and pree-ionization...

Do you have the video on when you work at the popperstuff?

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 6th, 2012, 03:13 AM

EZ: please put a note in the doc some where to try a small orifice with a balloon on it on the chamber... i think it may have been mentioned but this will be a test i want to not forget.  i want to see the slow ionization via a balloon size... ( after the leaky cup this may tel us some more interesting info about whats going on in there... ) THX

~Russ

Done, i'll uploade v1.6 within 10 minutes from now

I studied that type of mixer a while back. It uses oval shaped gears or pulleys to actually rotate like that. Pretty cool.

If you take the shape at that mixer rolls and you roll it across the ground it's the only shape that touches the ground 100% as it rolls. One of my buddies showed me a long time ago he thought it had some very significant practical uses and the math behind it also is quite useful and interesting

On the videos. You can watch some of the stuff I do live on my live shows.

Www.YouTube.com/regresearchlive

You can watch the recorded ones there.

Right now I just been working on the circuitry so I plan on making a video today of what I've got so far..

When I do tests and other things most of them will probably be done live and then I'll make a high-quality video of the results that's kind of what I've been doing lately seems to work pretty well

Is that the type of videos you're talking about?

Thanks EZ,
~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 6th, 2012, 06:01 AM

Is that the type of videos you're talking about?

Thanks EZ,
~Russ

Yes, i guess, just to keep updated on what y're doing ;)

Quote from jabowery on November 5th, 2012, 08:41 PM

Does anyone have a cite on the "layering" of gas mixtures?  I know you can get bodies of high molecular weight gasses to "pour" and hug the ground, but I thought that if you just let it thermally diffuse at room temperature, even the highest molecular weight gasses would mix thoroughly with low molecular weight gasses.

I can certainly believe that you'll get layering during plasma dynamics where the gasses are under enormous (albeit momentary) g-loading -- sort of like the separation of isotopes of Uranium via the Hexaflouride gas in an ultracentrifuge.

Here are a couple of cites that might be useful to quantify the "layering" problem in a 1 gravity field at room temperature for noble gas mixtures:

http://www.nist.gov/data/PDFfiles/jpcrd245.pdf

And equation 1 on page 5 of:

http://www.princeton.edu/sgs/publications/sgs/archive/17-1%20Kemp-Gas-Centrifuge.pdf

Two of the noble gases in the Papp gas mix are extremely heavy. And helium is very light.

Krypton is far heaver the iron, copper, or zinc, and xenon is also heavier than these metals in addition to tin, silicon, and antimony.

In a comparison, in a mixture of gold and water, how long will gold be suspended in a water mixture; well, not long at all no matter how long you mix them together.

/watch?v=QLrofyj6a2s

To make a point in a recent Bob Rohner video, the Rohner brothers had a disagreement about the color coming from of the spark of their poppers. Bob said his spark was pure helium colored, whereas John’s spark was greener.

The reason for this is that Bob takes his gas from a premixed tank and John injects his gases individually in the old Papp style.

Bob gets mostly helium from a layered pre-mix tank into his popper, whereas John gets more of a mix of the five noble gases.

I am coming to the realization that the only way to fill a popper with gas is to separately inject the five gases individually as Papp did.

In the video of the Papp cannon, Papp uses five separate gas flasks to separately inject the gases into the cannon.

/watch?v=p2tuk31pS2M


When the cannon explodes, it shreds to small pieces a 6 inch wide 3/8 inch thick steel pipe.

When properly done, the Papp reaction can achieve an explosive power of a few sticks of dynamite. We are not at that power level yet and we won't get there unless we sweat the details.

With all the talk on mixing, I realize from a practical view that a real word solution will be problematic. If the gas is that sensitive to mixing to work properly,
 a person will never turn off the engine once its running. If you turn off the engine for a few minutes, it may not start. Can you imagine a car sitting in front of your house or in the garage, always running. I know I'm way ahead of the issue, we need to make it run, but it is food for thought.

Stop engine, vent to small cylinder. Start engine, shake cylinder, inject gas to cylinder and start ionizing. A small container could be tumbled with a starter, but it seems bizarre.

Quote from Axil on November 6th, 2012, 09:06 AM

Two of the noble gases in the Papp gas mix are extremely heavy. And helium is very light.

Krypton is far heaver the iron, copper, or zinc, and xenon is also heavier than these metals in addition to tin, silicon, and antimony.

In a comparison, in a mixture of gold and water, how long will gold be suspended in a water mixture; well, not long at all no matter how long you mix them together.


To make a point in a recent Bob Rohner video, the Rohner brothers had a disagreement about the color coming from of the spark of their poppers. Bob said his spark was pure helium colored, whereas John’s spark was greener.

The reason for this is that Bob takes his gas from a premixed tank and John injects his gases individually in the old Papp style.

Bob gets mostly helium from a layered pre-mix tank into his popper, whereas John gets more of a mix of the five noble gases.

I am coming to the realization that the only way to fill a popper with gas is to separately inject the five gases individually as Papp did.

In the video of the Papp cannon, Papp uses five separate gas flasks to separately inject the gases into the cannon.



When the cannon explodes, it shreds to small pieces a 6 inch wide 3/8 inch thick steel pipe.

When properly done, the Papp reaction can achieve an explosive power of a few sticks of dynamite. We are not at that power level yet and we won't get there unless we sweat the details.

Hmm i wasn't aware that there is so much difference in weight between the gases. First thing in mind is they twirl together but when comparing it to gold and water i see your point more clearly.

Thx

I hope Bob reads this post ;)

Quote from BobN on November 6th, 2012, 01:36 PM

With all the talk on mixing, I realize from a practical view that a real word solution will be problematic. If the gas is that sensitive to mixing to work properly,
 a person will never turn off the engine once its running. If you turn off the engine for a few minutes, it may not start. Can you imagine a car sitting in front of your house or in the garage, always running. I know I'm way ahead of the issue, we need to make it run, but it is food for thought.

Stop engine, vent to small cylinder. Start engine, shake cylinder, inject gas to cylinder and start ionizing. A small container could be tumbled with a starter, but it seems bizarre.

If we inject the electric energy of a 1000 watt spark into a 240 cc volume of a noble gas mixture, plasma will form and the condensed gas mixture that results will be uniform.  
 
It is getting the gas mix right before the cylinder is sealed that is the challenge.

Quote from BobN on November 6th, 2012, 01:36 PM

With all the talk on mixing, I realize from a practical view that a real word solution will be problematic. If the gas is that sensitive to mixing to work properly,
 a person will never turn off the engine once its running. If you turn off the engine for a few minutes, it may not start. Can you imagine a car sitting in front of your house or in the garage, always running. I know I'm way ahead of the issue, we need to make it run, but it is food for thought.

Stop engine, vent to small cylinder. Start engine, shake cylinder, inject gas to cylinder and start ionizing. A small container could be tumbled with a starter, but it seems bizarre.

Well if the layered mixture in the right percentages does nothing then you have a point here. But we don't know yet if the true mixture will work, cause we are now unsure what percentages went into Russ popper the times he tried it. Could be mostly helium..but we know that works so what was it then?

Popper Kit for auction you have until 13 November 2012 to put your bid in. You can put your bid in via sending me an email at RWG42985@aol.com

This is a silent auction via email..

I have decided instead of just returning this I give anyone the opportunity to buy it from me. I don't plan on making money that's not the goal the goal is to give you the opportunity to buy it otherwise I'm going to return it as I think I can do better for what we have as resources.

See this video for detailed information of why and other stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfybZ8g2Mjo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Thanks!! ~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on November 6th, 2012, 08:14 PM

Popper Kit for auction you have until 13 November 2012 to put your bid in. You can put your bid in via sending me an email at RWG42985@aol.com


Thanks!! ~Russ

"Starting bid at 350 dollar...but i won't make money off it..."

Uhhh i know enough math to see that anything above 350 is profit..

And speaking for the 80 % that voted earlier on it...we told ye already..  (but that's never nice to say, so we won't ;) )

Maybe it will become a collectors-item in time.. (after ten years of working Pappers) or maybe B.Rohner will buy it to have a good laugh at it..?

This is my first post here, been reading for awhile. With that said just had to get a couple of my opinions out there. first I think you or some one here should make a miniature popper kit call it the thumper (cause it thumps and reminds me of a device on the old dune movie)  make it closer to johns design. people put out some decent money for the popper and they dont work if they even got them. This forum is the only place any work is being done with the tech in the open. I wouldnt  completely copy bobs design cause even though it works its kinda killing flies with a shotgun just for proof of concept. Plus Bob rocks that guy is a little rough around the edges but very cool. I used to do a lot of satellite hacking and I would never give you the complete answer I worked hard for it but I would point you in the right direction so you could figure it out for your self if you wanted to put in the work which is what I see him doing with russ. I truly believe that the popper was an off the cuff ploy to try and one up bob by john at tesla tech. Bob stole the show then john announced his alleged open source kit. If it had been planned they would have had kits at the show. Imagine how many they could have sold after bobs presentation. Instead they had printouts of order forms and still have yet to deliver to many people. I like your idea of an auction cause they are not going to sell again cause they dont work and they know it and I have a feeling they knew that before they sold them. I would be interested if a smaller apparatus would take less voltage ? Is john/plasmerg  going to refund you if you return your kit ? But a design of a kit that could be put together for cheap to take advantage of the parts included with the unproven plasmerg popper. The electronics, coils ect just so its not a total loss for the people who already invested (hornswagled) with the insinuation of a working proof of concept...... Ok enough of the opinionated diatribe the replications you have achieved in such a short time has been amazing I truly appreciate your dedication research and your open source style. This is a great community here and im very happy to be a part of it  I started this to post a papp vid showing how they loaded the pots      

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RCogLqsF3M&feature=share&list=UL3RCogLqsF3M

they also mention what goes into the pots.
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