Intro Post

I initially came across Clemente Figuera many years ago while researching another subject unrelated to overunity (FE). At the time, I found his story extremely interesting, and I was amazed how an individual living in a time when indoor plumbing was a luxury could develop such a device. I researched and read the forums, but it was more to satisfy my initial interest. Life was busy, and I eventually stopped researching Figuera. I don’t see myself as an FE junkie (then or now), or a Tesla addict, and I have only tinkered over the years.

I don’t do much, if any, with discrete controls, I am a tinkerer and will not wow anyone with electronic knowledge. I have worked in the mechanical industry for years and have worked with controls associated with such equipment. I intend to take a layman's approach to understanding Clemente Figuera's device.

Although there is some good information out there, a good amount of the documentation on forums seems overly complex. My direction will be different than what is already written on forums. I don’t expect my words or work to be a show-stopper, but hopefully, I can present a different angle on this device.

Figuera existed in a time when magnetos began to be phased out in favor of dynamos. I am confident that years before his initial patent, he was experimenting and studying the available equipment of the era. I have convinced myself that he must have spent a tremendous amount of time understanding induction and magnetic fields. I will do some writing and experimenting and will certainly ask the community for assistance, but most of all, this is a hobby for me, and I hope to contribute to the Open Source Community.

-JA

Thank you

Literature of the Era

To understand Figuera's thought process and the possible direction he took to developing his generator, it may be beneficial to understand the era he lived in and what books were available to him. I came across one such book called Dynamo-Electric Machinery, written by Silvanus Thompson, 1888, that surely Figuera had access to. This book provides a great basic understanding of early magnetos and dynamos.

In another book titled Scientific Memoirs: The Discovery of Induced Electric Currents written in 1900, an interesting line is written at the end of the Preface….”Helmholtz in his essay on the “Conservation of Energy”, Berlin 1847, and Lord Kelvin in 1848 and 1851 showed that the production of induced currents was in accord with the principle of the Conservation of Energy.” J.J. Thompson has, however, in his book Applications of Dynamics to Physics and Chemistry, London 1888, p42, called attention to the fact, “that when we have two circuits, the principle of the Conservation of Energy is not sufficient to deduce the equations of motion, and that some other principle must be assumed implicitly in those proofs which profess to deduce these equations by means of the Conservation of Energy alone.” Although I tried to get more information on this comment by downloading the book from Google Books, if you can believe it, page 42 and 43 are not legible.

Timeline

Seventy-One years is not a long time. That is the time from Faradays discovery of magneto-electric induction to Figuera patenting a self-running generator. It has been now 121 years to present day since 1902 that nobody (as far as we know) has replicated Figueras device. Yes, there are stories of others, but nothing is clear if these devices are similar. Here is a timeline that I put together of events, some I believe important, leading up to Figuera’s patent. I will come back to my timeline in future posts as I continue researching and developing a theory of operation.



Some Simple Background

As noted in the book Dynamo-Electric Machinery, (1888) Silvanus Thompson writes, “A dynamo-electric machine is a machine for converting energy in the form of mechanical power into energy in the form of electric currents, or vice versa, by the operation of setting conductors (usually in the form of copper wire) to rotate in a magnetic field, or by varying the magnetic field in the presence of conductors” (p1, Thompson, 1888). Thompson goes on to write that a dynamo-electric machine can serve two functions. When supplied with mechanical power, the machine can convert electricity. When supplied with electricity from a source, it can provide mechanical power. Regardless of its usage, its fundamental design is taken from Faraday's discovery in 1831.

Regardless of its usage the dynamo consists of two essential parts, Field Magnets (usually a massive stationary structure of iron) surrounded by coils of copper wire and an armature, a rotating section of copper coils. The Field Magnets provides a magnetic field of great intensity by providing an enormous number of lines of magnetic force. The armature rotates in the space of the magnetic field lines created by the field coils. While doing so electric currents are created, however, mechanical energy is required to move the conductors.

In Figueras patents, he often starts by referencing the current generator technology and its shortcomings (typical). He also makes a few comparisons and speaks clearly about what is important. I will start reviewing and selecting key points, as I see them, in his initial 1902 patents in the next few posts. It appears that most individuals work off of the 1908 patent, but I believe his initial work has more clues to his device.

- JA

thank you

Next Step

I want to start reviewing Figuera's patents that will identify the straightforward circuit I will use to experiment with. I do not particularly like doing things mindlessly. I see that as a methodology that leads nowhere. I need to understand that the goal is achievable (to a degree). Hence the initial research I have been doing provides me with mental comfort.

A quick Blurb..

Although I am still researching and developing a framework for my data, I did tinker this weekend with my coil. Trying a few different methods, I created a substantial, alternating magnetic field that measured 44 milliGauss four-feet away from the electromagnetic core. Not scientific by any stretch, but I was just tinkering. If I moved my TriField meter any closer it would read beyond its range.   

Looking at his patents

Figueras Patents #30375 & #30376

The year 1902 was a busy year for Clemente Figuera. Things must have been moving fast; four patents had been released that year by Figurea and Figurera/Blasberg. The following are recorded on RexResearch and this Wordpresss site.

Patent # 30375 (NEW PROCEDURE FOR OBTAINING ELECTRICAL CURRENTS IN GENERAL AND APPLICABLE TO INDUSTRIAL USES)

Key Takeaways:

a.   Speaks of creating an independent induced circuit that is divorced of the core and drawing from the magnetic field created by a series of other (exciting) coils.
b.   The primary coils should be designed to develop the strongest possible magnetic force without considering the Induced (load) coil.
c.   Identifies AC voltage used in the exciting coils to change the magnetic state of the exciter coils magnetic core. Also, this same AC input is used to change the magnetic state of the induced circuit's core, which is independent of the inducer coil.
d.   Identifies Magnetic attraction as an issue in current generators.

Regarding Key Takeaway c. I see this comment as a very important statement that might have been used to confuse people. First, the patent identifies creating an independent induced circuit that is independent of the core and then states that exciter voltage is used to vary the magnetic state of the induced core. I also believe three coils are at play, not counting the independent induced coil used as the output. Two coils are used as exciters, one as an induced coil mounted on the core. Add the independent induced coil, and we have four total.

Patent # 30376 (ELECTRICAL MACHINE FIGUERA – BLASBERG)

Key Takeaways:
a.   Speaks only of an induced coil (no core) rotating. This would imply that primary/exciting coils develop a static magnetic field.
b.   States again the need for a powerful electromagnet created by the exciter coils.
c.   Point out again that the load coil (induced) is completely independent and notes that the design of the load coil has nothing to do with the design of the exciter circuit. (this means what appears to be unity or over-unity materializes in the combination of field coils and core coil only)
d.   Calls out that the exciter coils are constructed as those in current machines. Also, the core electromagnets are built the same as the exciter electromagnets.
e.   What is commonly referred to as the armature in a generator appears to be part of the exciting circuit along with the field coils. Supported by Point c above.
f.   Identifies the core electromagnets as exciter coils also. Solidifies to me that there are three coils at play.

We clearly identify two types of primary coils called Exciters and Core electromagnets, and they are built similarly to coils wound on a typical generator. It appears that three coils are needed to produce the desired result.

We see again that there is a need for a powerful electromagnet to develop a dense magnetic field. The patent also describes an internal electromagnet placed in the core. But would it make a difference if a coil was wound on the outside versus a hollow pipe on the inside?

Summary

These first two patents have me believing we need a minimum of three coils, two Field Magnets, and One Inducer. But the inducer is not what we think. It is another coil wired on the core used to amplify a magnetic field and not associated with a traditional inducer coil used to pull power from the generator. In patent 30376, since the conventional inducer coil (used to pull power from the generator) rotates, the generator creates a static magnetic field. I am assuming this because there would be no reason to rotate the conventional inducer coil and have an alternating primary/exciter coil. So does this mean a self feeding device can be build using a static magnetic field?

-JA

Continuing with his last two 1902 patents
Links to patents in previous posts

Patent # 30377 (OTHER NEW PROCEDURE TO OBTAIN ELECTRICAL CURRENTS APPLICABLE TO ALL USES)

Key Takeaways:
a.   Similar to his other patent the exciter electromagnet and the core that the induced coil rotates on does not move.
b.   Interesting comment made towards the end of the patent that to create a more intense magnetic field the “core” is built in the likeliness of the exciter electromagnets. This implies again that three coils (not including the inducer that he is rotating) are required.
c.   Clearly states that the induced circuit is independent and separated from the core.
d.   The inducer coil is rotated by a motor.

Summary

To create Figuera’s magnetic effect three coils are required. Two exciter coils and one core coil as he notes. This is interesting because most OU researchers concentrate on creating and searching for OU on the output of there device. To me this appears more and more that the output is guaranteed when the proper conditions exist on the input. Seems too simple, create an ultra-powerful magnetic field and then draw however much you want off it. So is this ultra-powerful magnetic field created by somehow defeating Lenz?

Patent # 30378 (ELECTRICAL GENERATOR FIGUERA – BLASBERG)

Key Takeaways:
a.   Talks about issues with magnetic attraction in existing generators.
b.   Exciting current should be intermittent or alternating.
c.   Again states that the exciter coils and the inducer core are stationary.
d.   Ruhmkorff induction coil is the fundamental of Figuera's coils.
             1.   When sparking the Induction coil is essentually shorted.

e.   The output Core/coil has nothing to do with the exciter coils or the coils that produce the magnetic effect.
f.   When describing the exciter circuit being excited by alternating current Figuera states “in the induced circuit will arise
                currents comprising, together, the total generator current”. Keeping in mind that when Figuera mentions Induced he is
                not talking about any output coil as in an induction coil but I believe he is talking about a third coil that is used in
                conjunction with two primary coils.
g.   The total generator output is a combination of his three primary coils, two exciters and one Core (inducer) coil.
h.   In this patent nothing moves. Not even the coils they use to draw power out of the generator.
i.   In the last line, it is noted that there is induction between the exciter coils and the inducer coil.

Summary

Appears to me that the theme is that there are three coils at play. These coils are wired more like a Induction coil (Ruhmkorff) than a typical generator, however the copper coils would appear similar to a typical generator exciter coil. This is not a step-up coil arrangement such as an induction coil. This final patent reaffirms my theory that there are three coils at play that are somehow mixing magnetic fields thus creating a very powerful magnetic field.

I have enough information to start developing a preliminary theory of operation and a basis of design. I will save that for my next post as I start assembling my test rig. In a previous post I added Tesla to my timeline. I believe his device was pivotal to Figuera's success of his 1902 devices. I will review in my next post.


Odds and Ends

Interestingly, the 1908 patent submitted by Buforn on behalf of Figuera appears to be the main interest of most researchers. However, I believe the four initial patents in 1902 hold more information associated with Figuera's method of developing a self-exciting electrical device.

-JA

thanks for posting nice read

Quote from securesupplies on June 9th, 2023, 07:01 PM

thanks for posting nice read

Much appreciated. Getting geared up to move to the physical testing/experimenting phase.

-JA

Is this a Tesla device? :wtf:

I added Tesla to my timeline in another post, and I want to review how it could be important and why. It is the year 1888, and Tesla patents the polyphase induction motor. One of the first of its kind, the motor is powered by two phases 90 Degrees apart in time, so while one voltage signal is at 90 Degrees, the other is at zero. In an induction motor, the stator windings induce a current flow in the rotor conductors, like a transformer.

Interesting because Figuera talks about an alternating current in his device, and although he more explicitly speaks of an alternating voltage in his 1908 patent, I firmly believe he used the same winding configuration in 1902, and that winding configuration is attributed to Tesla's polyphase motor patent. The timeline of Tesla patenting this device fits within the period that Figuera was experimenting/developing his device. It also happens that creating two out-of-phase signals from a single source requires no fancy electronics. A simple capacitor works just fine.

The connection is too compelling, so I included a polyphase motor winding wiring in my test setup. This, at minimum, gives me a good starting point. I am not concerned about an output at this point because I believe an important aspect of this device is generating a very powerful magnetic field. I will be using a TriField meter to measure the magnetic radiation.

-JA

Developing an Experimental Device Based on Initial Research

It is impossible to tell what Figuera's device incorporated. The same goes for any device that individuals try to replicate. By studying Figuera I was able to develop the fundamentals of my generator. Interestingly, the Tesla polyphase winding plays a big part in my generator, and although I have been researching Figuera, Tesla is deeply rooted in its design. Strangely, I was never a Tesla fanatic like others, but I respect his work even more since I made a mental connection with his polyphase motor coil setup and the Figuera device. What excites me is that the arrangement I needed was found in a device in service since 1888. It all sounds too simple to me.

Fundamentals of my design.

It doesn't matter if you are designing a car or furniture. You need the initial vision to provide guidance and purpose. With out it, you will always fail. I am doing just that below.

Initial Vision

Two Exciter windings wrapped around a common core are fed with AC voltage, with one winding being connected to a capacitor to shift, in time, a phase. The exciter winding is configured in identical fashion to a polyphase motor, and when one winding is at 90 deg, the second winding is at 0 deg.

In my experimental design, Lenz will always lead when the first exciter coil is energized. Outside of the two exciter coil, an additional coil is wrapped around the same core as the exciter coils, and this coil aims to amplify the magnetic field. This core coil follows the principles of the Ruhmkorff induction coil, whereas it is connected through induction to the two exciter coils, but although a traditional induction coil maintains a small airgap for sparks, this core coil will be closed on itself to create the strongest magnetic field possible.

The output of the device is simplified, as stated in Figuera's patents. A copper coil sized independently of the exciter and core coils is utilized through induction to generate an output.

Figuera makes it clear that the phenomenon exists on the primary side of the device, and this phenomenon is a very robust magnetic field. Any extra power (if at all) must come from the interaction of three magnetic fields that Figuera eludes to in his patents.
I am building my initial test generator based on my assessment of Figuera, and I am sure this is more of a Jose Antonio Generator (JAG) than the real thing. I am looking forward to discovering, learning, and sharing the results.

Build in progress

-JA

nice control panel layout

I have a long weekend ahead of me and I plan to spend some time tinkering. To be safe I am using a 12 volt battery that is supplying power to a converter (120 watt/110 volt) with a fuse inline. Did some short testing over the past weekend and it occurred to me that Figuera never mentioned what primary voltage he had used. I will do some testing with 110 volts but I expect there to be issues with a shorted secondary coil (my core coil).
 
I have a stepdown transformer I will be using 110/12vac with the intention of creating a large magnetic field by stressing the coils. My first step is to get the phase shift correct between the two exciter coils, while one is at 90 deg. the other is at 0.

-JA

I have been having some fun and just experimenting with different setups. I plan on taking a more formal approach but for now it is just about just having fun. It appears that two tank circuits give the best results. But nothing is conclusive. In the picture below Green is th Input and Red is the output.

Input is 12vdc to 120vac (120 watt converter) to a 14 vac transformer as my input for now. The main core device is comprised of two tank circuits. Just getting set up.



-JA

Do you have a Circuit to extract spike Jose?

Quote from securesupplies on June 18th, 2023, 09:01 PM

Do you have a Circuit to extract spike Jose?

When you talk about a circuit to extract spikes do you mean something like a snubber circuit?

For now I am using a 12vdc battery to a cheap 120volt/120 watt converter. A friend of mine that moved away gave me the scope meter. I am a newbie with scopes and still learning. The image below the red signal is from my 120 watt supply feeding one primary coil. The blue signal is the circuit attached to the second primary coil and capacitor (as in a traditional poly-phase motor).

I am not sure if the crappy converter is responsible for the non-clean wave. Lots to learn and test.

Just Getting Started

Last few weekends I have had some time to play around. One key element of my simple design s that it is very easy to change wiring configurations so I can quickly move from one idea to another. Here is the layout of the coils



I have been able to play around with simple induction, it is not amazing but I am sure it is the same path everyone before me has taken. I have been able to build a pretty good induction heater by passing 300 amps through my heavy copper loop. Fun stuff and interesting but nothing ground breaking. With every passing day, I am starting to believe that traditional induction is not the answer. This is a completely different type of induction. Regardless, the road will be long and paved with blown fuses.

The Others

Like anyone researching this branch of science I have come across other individuals that recently (within the last 20 years) display a device. I want to point out two instances with these other devices that may shed a light on Figueras device. Ultimately, I believe both devices operate the same as Figueras.

Tariel Kapanadze
In a 2004 video, commonly referred to as the Green Box, there is a part where an individual is holding an amp meter some feet away from the device and the ground wire. Apparently, there is some action on the amp meter and a voice can be heard saying that the field is impacting the meter. Afterwards they go on to clamp the ground wire and there is something on the order of 33 amps on the wire. Try clamping the ground cable off your electrical panel and you will see zero's. How is it that they are reading amps? Exacly what field is radiating out from the ground?

Barbosa and Leal
Another device similar to the Figuera device. Like Tariels this also has a heavy ground wire. There is a video clip from a news station that shows the duo demonstrating a group of units. What is interesting, in one clip you see the the younger individual (Leal) turning On or Off a unit and wearing heavy rubber gloves? He is not wearing safety glasses to protect from anything that may rupture he is wearing gloves because there must be some type of electromagnetic field leakage that accumulates a charge on a metal surface. Why else, other then getting shocked would you wear these gloves? And guess what, here we have another device that has high amps to ground.

It appears that both Tariels's device and Barbosa and Leal device work off the same principle. This exact principle, although unknown, may be very similar to Figuera and it appears that like Figuera, Barbosa and Leal to not use any modern technology such as transistors etc...

So, what kind of induction did Figuera discover that appears to be rediscovered by Tariel and Barbosa and Leal?

-JA

There are two interesting lines in Figuera's patents that have me thinking I need to adjust/tweak my direction. In an initial post I mentioned that the words Ruhmkorff induction coil are present. Although I do not think a a typical induction coil is being used but I am starting to believe some level of charge separation, as seen in an antenna is being performed.

Clearly basic magnetic induction is not the solution and I scratched all versions of it off my list. My new direction now is to create a charge separation similar to the animation below and then utilize a small magnetic field to accelerate movement of these acquired charges.




The second interesting line that I initially overlooked reads as follows.

Patent 30378
An excitatory current, intermittent, or alternating, actuates all the electromagnets, which are attached or in series, or in parallel, or as required, and in the induced circuit will arise currents comprising, together, the total generator current.

I found this interesting because the patent states that induced currents will be manifested and these currents will be the total generator output. Well, that sounds exactly like the Barbosa and Leal device. So it appears that Figuera's device, like the B&L device always has electrons moving in a loop regardless if a load is connected.

-JA

Progress?

It has been a heck of a summer here in the Northeast US, tremendous rain has left me spending my weekends tending to landscape work. I have been able to spend a few hours experimenting the last few weeks and I want to inform the community of an anomaly I came across that I wasn't aware of.

I am certainly not claiming anything OU but I did uncover an odd anomaly that may (or may not) be a key component.

Inductance is the tendency of an electrical conductor to oppose a change in the electric current flowing through it.
A current flowing through a conductor creates a magnetic field around the conductor. We also know that if the magnetic field cuts a conductor at 90 degrees a current in that conductor is generated that opposes the current that created it (Lenz Law). 

If a conductor is placed at less than 90 degrees we should expect little to no conductance in an electrical cable as we move away from being perpendicular to the magnetic field. Regardless of the configuration (high or low voltage), in order to create a current we must have our conductor at 90 degrees. However, when doing this Lenz is manifested.

Having said that, an ideal generator is one where induction occurs not in a traditional way but in nature where induction occurs but the effects are not realized on the electrical coil that instigated the flow of energy.

It is a tall task.

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A permanent magnet creates a magnetic field without any induction required. I started experimenting along the line that I would only need to supply enough energy to distort (or move) this permanent magnetic field a few degrees off of 90 degrees to create a current on a conductor. My induced coil should be at 90 degrees to the permanent magnet but not my induction coil for this to work. Essentially I am using an alternating magnetic field to bend permanent magnetic field a few degrees to see if a coil, placed at 90 degrees to a static field can induce a current.

Sure enough I have been successful in creating current on an induced coil with nothing but a small amount of power used. Of course I am not talking about KW amounts of power but I have developed almost 7 amps where I should have zero. Anomaly? Maybe, but it is certainly not noted in any book or website.

Below is my initial setup.


As you can see I am using a thick copper conductor with two turns placed over the top of my toroid coil. The bottom half is more South magnetic and the top is more North magnetic. With this arrangement when the primary of the toroid coil is energized with 120 volts we should expect a negligible amount of current circulating in the copper coil. The below picture validates this. We can also see that the total amount of current (7 watts) is nothing and represents energy absorbed by the core.



Now, I introduced a permanent magnet whose magnetic field is at 90 degrees to the thick copper conductor. Anyone who has done this before has felt the thumping if the field the closer you get to the active core. With the magnet placed in a specific spot I am able to reduce input watts and increase output current by a magnitude of almost 300%. Very interesting, but lets continue.



If I reposition strong permanent magnets on my coil I am able to increase the current going through my secondary to 5.2 amps and bring my input watts to 5.8.



If I add another permanent magnet to the coil I can increase the current in the heavy copper coil to 6.9 amps with an input of 6.1 watts, still below my initial wattage of 7 watts.



So what is going on here? It appears that an alternating magnetic field can shift a permanent magnetic field off its axis. In addition to this, when the driving coil is at zero volts (180 degrees) it appears the permanent magnetic field snaps back to its original position only to get moved again with he negative part of the AC wave. Furthermore, the shape of the magnetic field plays a role in the amount of output amps with relationship to input current.

In closing, I have been able to reduce input wattage while increasing output amps on a closed copper loop. Is it important?

Lots more to learn and discover. Hopefully others find this useful.

-JA

so I am actually impressed... you are on a good track... think about how to start a current without any power input... it is actually possible... I am not at liberty to say any more than this as its not my information to give out... keep going,, you have the right idea

Happy New Year to all. Maybe 2024 is the year?

Life gets busy and I don’t always get the free time to experiment. Slowly, I am still plugging away, and with every experiment, I get more impressed with what Figuera was able to do back in his days when generators were considered new technology over the magneto.

I know on other sites it has been contested that the patent picture that identifies N and S may be incorrect. Some state that they are bucking coils and have identified YouTube videos showing a higher output with that arrangement. However, that technique also falls under traditional induction and will never yield more than what you put in.

Below is a picture of a generator from Figuera’s time where N and S was always as expected. N created a North facing pole and S was a South facing pole. I don’t think there is any reason to believe that Figuera was trying to mislead people. In his generator, I believe these coils are just as stated. N created a North and S created a South pole. The “y” symbol in Figuera’s time represented a Yoke, but this is where I think things get tricky.

Traditional Generator in Figuera's time


Figuera's Patent Picture



My last round of experiments yielded some interesting results as I incorporated permanent magnets. I learned a few things but there was nothing that couldn't be explained with basic theory. I was able to observe how a magnetic field can be used as a choke device, very interesting. I experimented briefly with the concept of EM radiation. It was interesting but I don’t think this is a pure radio-frequency device.

My next round of experiments will be centered around mechanical resonance. Although I haven't had a huge amount of time to experiment these last few months, I did have time to research, and I think there is some level of mechanical resonance at play here. I have seen that others have done plenty of work in association with electrical circuit resonance but I am focusing more on mechanical resonance.

I suspect that Figuera used High Frequency (not to be confused with High Voltage) because his device starts out like (theory-wise) a Ruhmkorff coil, and that coil, with its interruptions, creates high-frequency discharges. Although that coil is a high-voltage coil, Figuera claims it is not a set of those coils, so I suspect he used rapid oscillations or pulses in his primary coils BUT not creating traditional induction with them.

I purchased a few drivers and a PWM device to use for this round of experiments. I have a lot of ideas to try and I expect to be busy the next 8 months trying them out. 

Getting ready for the next round

Quote from crackedit on December 13th, 2023, 12:35 AM

so I am actually impressed... you are on a good track... think about how to start a current without any power input... it is actually possible... I am not at liberty to say any more than this as its not my information to give out... keep going,, you have the right idea

Thanks. Lots to learn and experiment with. Well, I can start a current by moving a magnet across a coil, but I am not sure if that is what you mean. I am really interested in mechanical resonance and will be taking what I learned so far and incorporating an element of that.

Slow and Steady, but still going

Here is something I found interesting and overlooked.

The words Atmospheric Electricity or Electric Fluid do not appear in any of Figueras patents. However, in newspaper articles of the time, these words appear. Research shows that the UK paper Daily Mail had a correspondent in Las Palmas where Clemente lived.

It was this correspondent who stated that Figuera had one of these machines operating in his house. In the report, sent to the Daily Mail, it was also written by the correspondent that the generator collects the electric fluid. We don’t have a name for this correspondent, but it is reasonable to believe that this individual had the opportunity to interview Clemente regarding his device.

This is important because the phrases Atmospheric Electricity, Electric Fluid, and To Use Electricity from the Atmosphere are most likely not misprints or misunderstandings as stated by others in other forums but actual words that Figuera used when interviewed by this correspondent to describe the operation of the device.

Also, this does shed some light on Figueras initial concepts that drove him to develop his method. He set out to develop a generator that does not work off traditional induction but incorporates the environment (atmosphere) in a specific way. This is to say, connects to the atmosphere. Interesting because of what was happening during that era.

These phrases may be a bigger hint than we thought. Why are the words atmosphere, and electric fluid used? In his patents, he clearly states that they use a modified Ruhmkorff coil, now it is important to know that in the time period of 1890 - 1903, there was a lot of work being performed by both Tesla and Marconi in radio. Radio waves were the next big thing, remember in 1888, Hertz demonstrated electromagnetic radiation. Marconi in Europe was as big of a deal as Tesla was to the US at the time, and Marconi also used a Ruhmkorff coil in his patent to produce radio waves.

So what does this all mean? Maybe it's a coincidence? In Figueras time, a Ruhmkorff induction coil was used to create radio waves, and although Clemente states his device starts off with that device we should safely assume that a high voltage high-frequency radio wave device was utilized to some degree because what would be the purpose of identifying a Ruhmkorff coil, a known HV/HF device if you are not creating some type of an HV/HF pulse.

Since radio waves travel through the atmosphere, as originally demonstrated by Hertz and aggressively pursued by Marconi and Tesla I can make the mental connection to how Figuera would speak of atmospheric electricity because a portion of his device utilized atmospheric waves, and he felt comfortable stating this because how he developed this was unique and the sheer mention of an induction coil in that era, would have certainly had people thinking of the works of Tesla and Marconi which would be fine because Figuera knew his method was far divorced from theirs.

Some direction I will be taking for the next few months. I have my induction coil ready, and I developed a unique way of utilizing the HV/HF pulses that is completely unorthodox, but the fundamental concept is taken from something I was reading in Ed Leedskalnin book. I am also in the process of assembling an astable multivibrator to drive some mosfets that I will utilize for flow across some coils.

-JA

Thank you Jose I invite you see this channel 

So you start building there immediately
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_A6Al7tWcwHGfElXZiVOfA

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_A6Al7tWcwHGfElXZiVOfA

So I ordered my astable multivibrator and set it up so as to have the opportunity to have a plug-in capacitor and potentiometer. The understanding here is that it makes it easier to quickly change components since I don’t know exactly what I need yet.

I have turned my attention to focusing on mechanical resonance as a component of the design as noted in my other post. I haven’t succeeded in getting anything interesting yet but I believe that is because I am not organizing my thoughts fully. What caught my attention was a picture I found in Ed L.'s book Magnetic Currents, where he shows the following.



For me, I liken the core of a device to be much like the soundbox of a tuning fork. Two tuning forks will resonate, but their sound will be difficult to hear unless a soundbox is utilized to amplify naturally the waves. I suspect that a metallic core needs to be resonated to allow the transfer of charged particles from one place to another, creating a current flow.

Utilizing chatGPT in my research, I was able to get the following response regarding mechanical resonance pertaining to electrical devices and interaction with electrons.

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Resonance typically involves the vibration of the metal due to external forces, such as sound waves or electromagnetic fields, rather than a direct attraction or repulsion of electrons. In a more technical sense, if the metal object is part of a circuit or a system with varying electric fields, the resonance might influence how electrons move within that system, but this effect is usually subtle and depends on specific conditions.

When a metal object resonates, it means it is vibrating at its natural frequency. This vibration can create oscillating electric and magnetic fields around the object. In electromagnetic theory, changing electric and magnetic fields can affect the movement of charges.

I then asked if a resonating object can attract electrons and I received the following:

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Yes, a resonating metal object can influence the distribution of electrons in nearby objects or in the surrounding space. When a metal object resonates, it can create an oscillating electric field, which might affect nearby charges.

I always knew about mechanical resonance, but I never linked it to any form of electrical utilization as we are taught to always dampen resonance effects in objects to prevent damage. In my career, I have had issues with variable frequency drives and motors with specific frequencies causing massive vibrations that can damage motors and equipment.

Because I convinced myself that Barbosa & Leal have successfully replicated Clemente Figuera I asked chatGPT about some details of Nilson Barbosa latest patent, and this is what I received.

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Patent WO 2024/130362 A1, titled "Resonant Systems for Capturing Electric Charges from the Ground," does involve the use of mechanical resonance. The system described in the patent utilizes resonant circuits tuned to specific frequencies to maximize the efficiency of capturing electric charges from the Earth's electromagnetic fields.

By leveraging mechanical resonance, the device is able to enhance the inductive coupling process, thereby increasing the amount of electrical energy generated from the captured charges.

Like Viktor Schauberger, Figuera was an engineer and most likely had a pretty good handle on resonance as it applied to his discipline. So, I will spend the next few weeks/months just tinkering with mechanical resonance to see if I can somehow get an iron bar to resonate utilizing my multivibrator. Exactly how I am connecting to the bar, I am not sure yet. Below is my preliminary setup.



-JA

Continuing with ChatGPT and mechanical resonance, I asked about Energy Harvesting from Mechanical Resonance, and this is what ChatGPT responded with.

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Energy harvesting from mechanical vibrations using magnetic fields holds great promise for creating self-powered systems, reducing energy consumption, and enabling new technologies in various fields.

It appears that there already is reliable information that identifies a self-powered device utilizing mechanical resonance because I would think the algorithm receives information from as credible a source pool. Just the claim of Self-Powered would get you booted from every physics forum.

In Tariels K's 2004 video, he utilizes two transistors that are wired with some very thin wire. I can't imagine he is pushing any level of power through those transistors, but now I wonder. Is he just using low voltage at high frequency to create mechanical resonance in a core material?

What would be the best method of delivery for this? Output of transistors feed a coil or feed an insulated plate?

-JA