Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.

TommeyLReed


Matt Watts

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
« Reply #1, on September 24th, 2015, 10:19 PM »Last edited on September 24th, 2015, 10:45 PM
Just FYI, as far as I know I'm not directly related to Don Watts.  He may have been a knucklehead for all I know; he also may have thought he had it all figured out too.  That's all in the past.  Right now Tommey, I think you have a better handle on this than anyone else I know, so please keep us posted on your progress--just a quick blurb, video link, anything.  You get a mechanical solution like this running and I'll bet in short time we can also figure out an electrical one.  Somebody just has to be first and kick the door wide open.

Something Tommey I'd like to you prove or disprove and if you can prove it to be true, it may be a key to you getting this machine to run.

Say you are in your car, it's winter and you have the heater vents blowing to keep from freezing to death.  You don't have the vent pointed right at your face because it will dry your eyes out.  Instead, the vent is shooting the air out a little to the side of your face, not directly hitting you.  Now notice what happens to the airstream when you take a tight corner.  It hits you square in the face or moves way away from you.  Centrifugal force right?  Even though the airstream should have the same reference frame as the car, the tight turn forces it to bend.

I don't why, but for some reason when you demo'd the rim jet, I got thinking about this phenomena.  Somehow it must be applicable to the Clem Engine.  Maybe you can think about it a bit and see if there is some kind of connection.  Specifically I'm talking about the frame of reference.  In the case of the rim jet, the water is in the delivery tube heading out to the tip of the jet, but because the wheel is turning, the water really wants to smash up on the trailing side of the pipe instead of flow nice and evenly down the pipe.  Now think about this if there was water and air in the pipe.  Water is heavier so it would quickly displace the air and smash against the side of the pipe.  However, the air would want to go the same place too and would apply additional pressure against the water.  What I'm getting at is I think there is a way to reduce the volume of water without in any way decreasing the pressure at the tip of the jet.  It's all in the geometry of the delivery tube and controlling how much air and water is in the mix, the proportions.

Anyway, watching your rim jet video, I can see pretty clearly with enough RPMs the pressure could potentially drop to where the center starts sucking its own fluid and no longer needs the pump to maintain operation.  Me thinks its just a matter of substituting air for water so you don't have to try to keep up with the volume demands.  It may take some work to prove this out, but if anyone can do it, you can.  Got my fingers crossed for you buddy.  Keep up the great work.

kenssurplus

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
« Reply #3, on November 15th, 2015, 12:53 PM »Last edited on November 16th, 2015, 08:42 AM
This subject has perked my curiosity for a number of years now.  On my first outreach into the alternative energy forums, this was the first device I had major cogitations about.  My original plan (based upon incomplete information) was to use an auger cone log splitter, standing vertical in the oil bath to lift the oil up the ridges of the auger, and then throw the oil out nozzles at the top.
Similar to this but upside down:


My attempt never left the gathering parts phase, as I didn't have a reverse cone to fit over the auger.

From watching the you-tube clip above, I think  their version could be do-able if it were large enough to overcome any inefficiencies introduced by the build style / design.

TommeyLReed

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
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Hello all,

I started this new prototype engine base on the theory of the Clem Engine.

It's big!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U101rHzM_Hg

Matt Watts

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
« Reply #6,  »
Interesting gizmo Tommy.  Do tell us more...

patrick1

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
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Quote from Matt Watts on April 12th, 11:44 PM
Interesting gizmo Tommy.  Do tell us more...
Indeed,  - does it run vertical ? ;-),  looks likes its meant too

TommeyLReed

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
« Reply #8,  »
Hello,

Sorry been busy.

Yes its vertical and very big.

Total mass is 5ft diameter 4ft tall.

The housing is built with 1/4 steel and will be able to hold a 30" mercury of vacuum to keep cavitation and air out of the system.

Total of 10gal will be pumped into the rotating mass with a 80gpm pump/motor attached to the shaft.

As rotation increase, centrifugal force will cancel out the pump pressure and cause the fluid to accelerate outward. This will create the pump to act as a motor where it will have to increase in flow rate.

Like a tornado water spout.

Control valves are used to keep the unit from accelerate until it blows its self apart.

Tom

patrick1

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
« Reply #9,  »
hard too imagine what the failure point would be, -   i wonder what the equilibrium rpm would be,..  guess you have yet too find out. ;-). exciting stuff.

TommeyLReed

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
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Hi All,

This is part of the housing need for a vacuum while the motor starts up.

Vacuum will avoid cavitation and air drag.

Heat is created when rotation starts pumping fluid in to the inner drum to the pistons.

Centrifugal force is calculated by a formula:
Force= M*V^2/R

In other words:
http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

At a mass of 8.33lb of fluid rotating at 2000rpm and a diameter of 4ft = 27713.6 pound of fluid force.

10 gallons of fluid is inside the rotating mass while it rotates at all times.

patrick1

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
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im temped too call it a centrifugal pimp, but im not entirely sure about that one...

it looks like one way too break the law anyway....

TommeyLReed

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
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Hello,
This is past information to show static head pressure vs rotation pressure difference.
This show when you rotate at a high velocity it creates forces that could be use to generate mechanical work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1YPZe9RdwM

patrick1

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
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i want too buy you a beer.

Belfior

Re: Restarting The Richard Clem Engine Build.
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Hmm why is every video removed from YT? Just got this far on the forum and no videos :(