"Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #50, on August 7th, 2015, 11:01 AM »
@ Kenssurplus

Thank you for checking them out... I know what your saying, there is something going on here, and it has been proven in a scientific way... No conjecture, no non-sense, no re-writing the laws of conservation of energy... I am on the 4th video.. Stick at it, because they only get more interesting... Especially the NANOR stuff... I have had to re-evaluate how I want to go about conducting my calorimetry.. I will be making a video soon... I was going to do bomb-calorimetry, but it seems like flow calorimetry is more suitable for the experiments...

Thanks for checking them out, I feel it is the best area to be looking to actually achieve real energy gains.
And like I said, since main-stream scientist will be blackballed and careers ruined for looking into it, we as alternative energy research hobbyist can truly advance this field through solid experimentation... The more people trying things out (with regards to LENR/Cold Fusion)  the better...

Peace
:)

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #51, on August 26th, 2015, 07:07 AM »
Good videos,

I was able to get through all of them and can say that they are a valuable set of history, as well as a good background for education and understanding of this field of study. 

The narrow focus on only the F&P setup disapointed me, as I was hoping for an all encompasing overview.  Still, it is probably better drilling down on only one setup originally, and then branching out to take in all other modalities.

Finances for me are going to be very tight again for the next few months so I don't know what I can get accomplished in the way of testing, experimenting, and reporting.   Hope anyone else has better lab circumstances than I do at the moment.

Best wishes,
ken
 

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #52, on August 26th, 2015, 06:42 PM »
Hello Kenssurplus

I am glad you watched the videos.. I think they were a good way to learn a good amount of quality info as well... It sound like we are all in the same boat when it comes to lab/equipment/finances etc... The good thing about this (and I point I keep on stating) is that we can work on this stuff for an indefinite amount of time, experimenting tinkering, replicating and just straight up trying new ideas out...
I have ordered an arduino compatible digital flow meter, once I get that I will have all the things needed to try some flow calorimetry calibration testing.. Once calibration is done, then it is off to the races..

I plan on running LENR/Cold Fusion experiments for a long, long, time. So I am not going to rush it, I think a methodical, very stringent approach is best here...

I am very glad that you are planning to look into this phenomenon as well, the way I see it the more consciousness focusing on the phenomenon the better... I also believe and feel there is room for serious advancement in the field, it is a matter of manifesting the sight of your minds eye.

Peace :) 

Diadon

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #53, on August 28th, 2015, 09:55 PM »
Hey guys,
Here is a little written update on some of my progress and I can relate to you Ken.
 I am just moving slow and steady like the patient turtle. Upgrading my power supply has taking a little while so she will look nice and clean. It will also have mains isolation and I am keeping my eyes peeled for a good EMI Filter. Just to protect against any extra burst noise from mains lines.
I have scripting done for thermistor water probes for the mass flow calorimeter data. They go from -50 to 150C at very high accuracy of .01% MOE. My 30 AMP ACS712 current sensor has also been scripted within a .07% accuracy which is not as nice as I would like. So I will also employ a current sensing shunt with an instrumentation amplifier and an a second smaller iso-transformer. Then running into a voltage divider and using a calculation for logging the voltage. Then I can average out the current between those two checks, As well as get the total EM Power in the system logged. Its something that I am trying to understand as I have never done it before. This is my first micro controller exploration and its pretty tedious. I also purchased an extreamly accurate .01% MOE K-type SS thermo-couple for near the reaction site as well. I still need the flow sensor, and decent pump for the mass flow calorimetry. This is by far the largest project I have ever taken on so it will be a while before I reach any major completion. I found a local place that has Alumina brick and mortar which will work great for the tube chamber reactor designs. I still have a lot of reservations about using Li as the fuel source as its harmful to the environment in high concentrations and to mine. Its also in heavy demand due to the battery industry. I can think of more abundant sources of Hydrogen that should be more sustainable so I will probably focus more on aquas reactors. Though it will be fun to dabble in the tube style reactors a little, I can't help it :)
 I have a 600 Watt quartz immersion heater I would like to test some pyro-electric/piezo-electric generation ideas I harvesting the excess. It will also be a good control and test bed for setting up my calorimetry data as well, along with wire wound resistors and the like. Tons of work to do and it would be great if we had the ability to go work with each other personally.

 I have found two gentlemen locally working on the same projects thanks to Russ and will get together for a lunch some time.  Get more done and progress these things a lot faster with a local group, all part of the lessons of life. Just figured I would give you guys a update, going to attempt to complete my 300VDC 4Amp 1200Watt isolated supply this weekend.
Once I get the supply up and running again, I will show some electo-chemistry experiments I have been working on for home made catalysts, governing substrates ( to help prevent run away reactions), and Fuels. Or a much more elegant way to put it, I have been creating crystalline structures of geometric interest.

Lots of exciting stuff that my mind has been reeling over experimentally. I need the equipment built first on a very tight budget. Again, that is usually the case for most of us as we give ourselves to love. With that gooey stuff said, I trust all is well with everyone and much love to you and yours.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #54, on August 31st, 2015, 11:25 AM »
Hi Diadon,

Thanks for the update.   It sounds to me like you are progressing nicely along, even if it seems slow to you.
Quote from Diadon on August 28th, 2015, 09:55 PM
Tons of work to do and it would be great if we had the ability to go work with each other personally.

 I have found two gentlemen locally working on the same projects thanks to Russ and will get together for a lunch some time.  Get more done and progress these things a lot faster with a local group, all part of the lessons of life.
So, where is "locally"?  I am jealous.  It would be lucky for me to find someone within a 150 U.S. mile radius of me that would be interested in this field of study.  I guess that is sort of "locally" depending on your point of view.  You're doing great so far with your hopes, designs, and thoughts expressed so far.  Don't let your fire die.

With no resources, or funds to buy anything, I am thinking about Norman Wootan's vortex cavitation pump.  I have an glass tube (the cover of a christmas candle) some plywood for the end caps, and a stainless steel shaft.


The only things I am missing would be water sealed bearings / pump seals and the aluminum rotor properly scribed for twisting the water into two touching vortex tornadoes.
I might be able to melt some old pop cans and get enough aluminum to make a rotor. 

Assembling all of the necessary parts and then setting up the lab for radiation / EM monitoring, as well as heat maesurements will take a bunch of forevers.  I dont know how Matt Watts was able to do his testing in such a short amount of time.
I can feel my hair turning gray just thinking about it.


Matt Watts

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #55, on August 31st, 2015, 12:43 PM »Last edited on August 31st, 2015, 12:47 PM
Quote from kenssurplus on August 31st, 2015, 11:25 AM
I dont know how Matt Watts was able to do his testing in such a short amount of time.
I can feel my hair turning gray just thinking about it.
I followed the basic setup Mark LeClair used.  He gave plenty of details during the Global BEM conference.  The whole trick is using valves and gravity to create the cavitation, then getting the bubbles to flow into the chamber.  The method I used was to keep halving my settings until I got it locked in.  Gravitational suction is the term I used, meaning let the bubbles reform in the chamber and adjust the tubing, valves and exit point in to the spill reservoir to where you can hold/sustain the cavitation.  Gravity is much easier to control than valve flow and pressure.  Use the valves just to get in the neighborhood; use gravity to fine tune.

And, you'd be surprised how far an old washing machine pump connected to a DC motor, rectified out of a variac can get you.  When you get the flow rates close, a tiny elevation adjustment on the suction point will throw the pump into cavitation real easy like.  Then the trick is to get the bubbles out of the pump and into the cavitation chamber where they can impinge on the stainless steel mesh (pot scrubbers).  Definitely use clear pipe or tubing with good lighting so you can see when you are close; from there you can hear it and feel it in the pipes and chamber.

Lastly, have your counter ready, because if things are working as Mark says, you'll get readings that will make you think twice about how much further you want to pursue it.  Do this BEFORE you begin monitoring fluid temperature.  I say BEFORE, because if you go the other way around, you'll have a whole mess of fluid you don't know what to do with, fluid you won't want anywhere near living things.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #56, on August 31st, 2015, 01:18 PM »
Quote from Matt Watts on August 31st, 2015, 12:43 PM
I followed the basic setup Mark LeClair used. .......<SNIP>
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Lastly, have your counter ready, because if things are working as Mark says, you'll get readings that will make you think twice about how much further you want to pursue it.  Do this BEFORE you begin monitoring fluid temperature.  I say BEFORE, because if you go the other way around, you'll have a whole mess of fluid you don't know what to do with, fluid you won't want anywhere near living things.
So, are you saying that you had sustained residual radiation comming from the catch water after you shut down your experiement?

Matt Watts

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #57, on August 31st, 2015, 07:19 PM »
This is from Mark's website and all I can say is I concur with his findings, though I didn't do the expensive lab analysis he did.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #58, on August 31st, 2015, 08:26 PM »
here is a bit more on the subject:

pie economics cold fusion comedy updates

This shows quite a bit more in depth answers and quotes from principal players.

I liked that they differentiate between spherical, asymmetrical, and vortex cavitation.  Norman Wootan's device produced twin vortex cavitation.  There appears to be different energies displayed from the different types of cavitation.  Cold fusion from the one type may be markedly different than from another,

I would not throw a blanket statement over all the LENR/CANR/Cold Fusion/ etc field.
Keep an OPEN MIND.
Regards,  Ken

Matt Watts

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #59, on September 1st, 2015, 12:47 AM »
Mr. Pie Economics is an investor and he freaked when he heard about my results.  He was seeing his whole world about to go up in smoke.  He was specifically told by the inventors he was funding there was zero emissions other than pure thermal.  That could be true and if so, they were doing something different than I was.  It could also be they didn't really check and when someone finally did, Pie would have a real dilemma to deal with, possibly to the point of fleeing the country.

The good thing about this experiment is knowing there is something to it, which makes me think a purely electrical device is possible.  If I could get my Ruslan device to crank out 4000 watts only needing a ground wire, that would be the ultimate solution in my mind.  Problem I'm having is not understanding how nature works well enough to do it.  If a tiny cavitation bubble can create temperatures equal to the sun, surely there is a way to snag a little of that energy without elaborate hardware.  All that is needed is to understand where it comes from, how it manifests itself and a method to capture some of it.  I do tend to think in order to gain energy above ambient, you have to trade with matter.  I also think there is another component involved, time.  What I mean by that is nature has a natural entropy, things simply don't last forever.  They are created, have a lifespan and they eventually disintegrate to be recycled and begin again.  Entropy then is actually time and like matter, can be consumed as a fuel.  When you increase entropy, you speed up the normal process of conversion.  If like W.B. Smith states about time and the tempic field is actually how the universe works, then it must be the driving force and would be the central theme we must focus on for any free energy device.

Just my thoughts for whatever it's worth.
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #60, on September 1st, 2015, 01:50 AM »
BTW, here's another reason why one really has to be careful:
Quote from Ken Edwards
(1) I am in 100% support of amateur science, but please understand what "science" is. Good amateurs follow a well defined scientific method. Also understand I am fed-up with "amateur bad-science"; when some unknown person comes along and reports that they've built a test machine and ran tests from it, then they tossed it all away in a hidden location. After much time has passed they go on a blog site and claim this and say that. Madness.
Actually, I didn't think much time had passed.  I started working on my setup shortly after seeing Marks presentation.    :)   But the good news is Russ is all setup to completely avoid "amateur bad-science" as Ken Edwards calls it.  And I'll bet even if Russ has the protocol spot-on, guys like this will call him a crackpot.  There's just no pleasing some folks.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #61, on September 1st, 2015, 09:08 AM »Last edited on September 1st, 2015, 09:11 AM
Thanks Matt for your input.

I was a little irritated that you wouldn't give me a straight answer, but then after reading through pie economics, and then seeing your replies, I came to the realization (AGAIN) that there is much more going on than just the technical aspects involved here.
Quote from Matt Watts on September 1st, 2015, 01:50 AM
BTW, here's another reason why one really has to be careful:

Actually, I didn't think much time had passed.  I started working on my setup shortly after seeing Marks presentation.    :)   But the good news is Russ is all setup to completely avoid "amateur bad-science" as Ken Edwards calls it.  And I'll bet even if Russ has the protocol spot-on, guys like this will call him a crackpot.  There's just no pleasing some folks.
That sucks to be called names and blackballed.  It just shows that there is something here of substance worthy to be made a target for. 

I really don't understand why there has to always be so much venom and vitriol.  Been that way since the invention of the printing press I guess.  Oh well, I don't really give it much weight anyway, as I have had much worse than words shot my way.
I am not willing to sit cowardly in the shadows because of fear of peers or others.  I am looking for the devices, the effects, the truth, and ultimately the freedom these new alternative energy technologies can provide not only me but any who desire it.
Damn the torpedoes!  Full speed ahead!

P.S.  If it was not clear to everyone, I am not the same Ken as Ken Edwards quoted above.

Matt Watts

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #62, on September 1st, 2015, 10:30 AM »
Quote from kenssurplus on September 1st, 2015, 09:08 AM
I am not willing to sit cowardly in the shadows because of fear of peers or others.  I am looking for the devices, the effects, the truth, and ultimately the freedom these new alternative energy technologies can provide not only me but any who desire it.
Damn the torpedoes!  Full speed ahead!
I recently learned something from a champion dirt bike racer turned instructor.  Two things:
  1.  You need an attitude of gratitude.  And...
  2.  If you don't mind, it don't matter.  Mind over matter.
These two mottos will keep you on track.  Nothing else should ever get in your way.
Quote from kenssurplus on September 1st, 2015, 09:08 AM
P.S.  If it was not clear to everyone, I am not the same Ken as Ken Edwards quoted above.
I knew that and I hope it is clear to everyone else their are adversaries out there.  They'll crawl out of the woodwork if you say anything contrary to standard textbook science and experimentation.  What you will rarely if ever see from these guys is their willingness to try and replicate your experiment as close as possible.  They know everything already and can't be taught anything new, for if they did learn something new, their world would be torn inside out.

Diadon

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #63, on October 14th, 2015, 12:40 AM »
Some great thoughts and I am glad I have your guys support. I have a lot of stuff going on but I am still getting atleast 5 hours of work in a weak. I almost have all the components I just need some welding done and need to visit a co-worker/teacher as I have never welded in my entire life. The great thing is even after all this work if there is a null result, I would have still learned so much :)  I posted this video which is pretty boring, but I would like to document the important parts of the experiments so people can replicate it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZufLN4pb8E The video is about a relatively cheap and easy way to data-log for amateurs, Its all dependant however of what style of Calorimeter one is planning on using. Another route I am exploring is downloading to a cloud with Plotly.
Ken that post you put up a while back was very informational on the cavitational experiments. I am being like the tortoise since I have a lot going on right now. Slow and steady. Hopefully be able to update you guys soon, been researching a ton when I can't get my hands on a project. One can always exercise ones mind and listen to the rhythm of the universe, before one starts beating one's own drum.
Talk soon if all goes well :)

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #64, on October 17th, 2015, 06:13 PM »Last edited on October 17th, 2015, 06:18 PM
Diadon,

Thanks for the video and update on your progress.  That input into excel on the fly looks pretty neat - if I had excel, I would give it a try. 
My open source experimenting circumstances have changed somewhat again for the worse,   I am hopeful that in a few more weeks / months,  I can be back to the bench / lab.

I see there are some developments happening worldwide with this subject:

e-cat world

swedish-scientists-publish-paper-claiming-ponderomotive-forces-explain-lenr-mats-lewan
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Subsequently, they did an experiment of their own which verified their theory, but quickly stopped the experiment over concerns about neutron production. A new experiment is planned under carefully controlled conditions.

Amsy

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #65, on October 28th, 2015, 07:40 AM »Last edited on October 29th, 2015, 12:00 AM
Hi LENR researchers,

my last post in this forum was some time ago, I made a brake of researching for the holy graile. :D
Actually this topic (LENR) was the most promising project for me at last. I´m very interested to the topic again and maybe we can talk/write a little bit about the science behind LENR.

Some years ago I started with the replication of Naudins project of Cold Fusion. To understand, what is happening with the hydrogen on the cathode and how can we convert the phenomenon to a machine that will generate work/energy for us. Specially without consuming the tungsten.

In this time I was able to figure out, that the old "Cold Fusion" actually is LENR. And gues what, also the MAHG project is based on that.
All the project (also St. Meyer Injectors IMHO) are based on the fact, that hydrogen will be ionized. So it will stay as a proton.

The only answer, this systems can produce more energy than they are using, is, that they do some atomic core changes. (E=mc²).
All mentioned projects -finally- are working on an atomic hydrogen base. Because of the high voltage at the cathodes the hydrogen gases become ionized. A proton is formed and this give us the basic for atomic fusion.
Researchers of the Cold Fusion projects reports that after running the process, they found different elements inside the reaction chamber, based on the raw material they were using. Rossi transmuted nickel to copper. Some italiens transmuted tungsten to osmium and aurum (gold). Althought that was not the aim of the cold fusion test, they confirm, that they are generating new elements. This only can happen by atomic fission or fusion. In this case, because the atomic mass of the element is higher than the raw material, they basically transmuted elements (fusion). So by adding the proton of the hydrogen they added mass to the other atoms.
This is also possible if we use hydrogen as a raw material. Two protons can be fusionized to a deuterium atom by generating energy.

Just some thoughts. :)

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #66, on November 15th, 2015, 12:40 PM »
Amsy, Great that you dropped by for a visit.
Your expressed views closely mirror my own understandings of the cold-fusion / LENR areas.  My experiements with an electrolytic cell (J.L. Naudin's A.P.E.) also showed me phenomena that matched other researchers' observed phenomena - the blue/violet, ultraviolet glow discharges.

At this point, I am trying to tie several cold-fusion / LENR experimental protocols together in one unit to make a workable standalone alternative energy device. Please see here:
Dr. Oleg Gritskevitch's megawatt generator
Any thoughts on that topic are very much welcomed.
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #67, on April 15th, 2016, 03:04 PM »Last edited on April 15th, 2016, 03:10 PM
Well, its been six months since the last post.  Anyone have any progress or non-progress to report?

I have had a typical failure (although the failure could have been the result of sucess) this past winter that I reported here:
Water Vortex Tube  Experiment for the Dr. Oleg Gritkevich's 1.5 MW Generator

Vortexing action and separation were working, as well as heat buildup.  I just need a lot more resources to do good quality testing.
Unfortunately, my motivation and desire levels are at the same level as my finances - zero.

Someone else, pick up the ball and run with it.


Diadon

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #68, on October 23rd, 2016, 07:22 PM »
How do I get a bench up in this web joint?

Lynx

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #69, on October 23rd, 2016, 09:22 PM »
Check your messages ;)

Diadon

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #70, on October 24th, 2016, 12:42 AM »
Thanks Lynx, you are the man!

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #71, on March 22nd, 2017, 12:10 AM »
Hello Everyone!
Just here to brush the dust off of this feed.
I will be doing daily LENR/Cold Fusion runs.
This feed seems like the most appropriate place to share the data.
I am looking forward to collaborating and sharing and learning and caring with you all.
Happy to be back.
This is great.
Looking forward.
Thanks guys.
:)
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #72, on March 23rd, 2017, 02:24 PM »Last edited on March 23rd, 2017, 02:36 PM

Overview of my "wet" LENR/Cold Fusion cell & calorimeter.

Hey everyone, the video I posted gives you all an idea of how I am going about executing my calorimetry for the LENR/Cold Fusion experiment.
The unit shown in the video has been changed (due to a catastrophic failure). I have rebuilt it & changed a few things but all in all the general idea is the same.
Right now I am working on a way to keep the solution mixed. I am also building an extremely low noise power supply for the cell.
Also, I am purchasing one of these modules soon: https://www.adafruit.com/product/1085
That module will allow the arduino to have 16-bit capability instead of 10-bit, greatly improving the overall tightness of the data.
Fun times, I am truly happy to be working on something as interesting as LENR/Cold Fusion.
Much love to all of you.
Looking forward.
Ben
(P.S. The main delay in progress with the project was because my course load at Sheridan College **Electronics Engineering Technologist** had gotten extremely heavy and I had to drop most of my extra-curricular activities... But, I have learned much and as time goes on the quality of work as well as the speed of progress has/will improve)
(P.P.S.S. Also I have been training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and for a while there the training had consumed almost all of my mental space, I still do train 2 - 4 nights a week, but I have balanced out how to have both extremely fun areas in my life in an active way... I love the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.. I don't know how I lived without it all the time prior to training. Its been a year and a half, and I am the happiest I've ever been, also in the best physical shape of my life. I am lucky to have so many cool interests that are fun. Also I am lucky to have so many awesome friends. Peace everyone)
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #73, on March 23rd, 2017, 10:30 PM »

I'm just posting an image of the arduino based telemetry unit for my calorimeter.
The PSU is separate and you will all see it after I iron out a couple of the wrinkles that are left.
Later!
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #74, on March 24th, 2017, 10:13 PM »

Here's a pick of the PSU I've put together for my LENR/Cold Fusion calorimetric experimentation.