Tesla coil discharge?

Darenzo

Tesla coil discharge?
« on September 12th, 2013, 05:14 PM »Last edited on September 12th, 2013, 05:15 PM by Darenzo
Hey guys ...
Could someone enlighten me about tesla coils ??
Specificity corona discharge ..
So the sparks you see from the top of the coil are what exactly .? Are they electrons being discharged into the air  or are they electrons being sucked out of the air and being dumped to ground ?? ..
I ask because and i quote from wikipedia (tesla coils)

 As energy builds within the oscillating secondary circuit, the amplitude of the toroid's RF voltage rapidly increases, and the air surrounding the toroid begins to undergo dielectric breakdown, forming a corona discharge.

I have this idea of using a tesla coil to breakdown water (dielectric breakdown)
for hho production
Thanks :)

Allgood-Energy

RE: Tesla coil discharge?
« Reply #1, on September 12th, 2013, 08:05 PM »
I built a Tesla Coil about 50 Years ago and I still have it, I have experimented with it and have produced a number of videos on You-tube look it up,  AllgoodAutomation there. you will find the videos here.
/watch?v=BWGxwGrAVjA
/watch?v=DVV6_u3p65g
/watch?v=5nZln29m4qQ:idea:
 TC Electrolysis is not a new Idea.
To answer your question about the electrons the arcing at the primary and secondary are both ripping electrons off from the surrounding air and then charging the air with + and _ ions. The Tesla Coil creates a gas called O3
OZONE. It is very pungent in odor. you can sometimes smell it after a lighting strike and definitely  when you run the TC.

Tom  :idea:
Quote from Darenzo on September 12th, 2013, 05:14 PM
Hey guys ...
Could someone enlighten me about tesla coils ??
Specificity corona discharge ..
So the sparks you see from the top of the coil are what exactly .? Are they electrons being discharged into the air  or are they electrons being sucked out of the air and being dumped to ground ?? ..
I ask because and i quote from wikipedia (tesla coils)

 As energy builds within the oscillating secondary circuit, the amplitude of the toroid's RF voltage rapidly increases, and the air surrounding the toroid begins to undergo dielectric breakdown, forming a corona discharge.

I have this idea of using a tesla coil to breakdown water (dielectric breakdown)
for hho production
Thanks :)

Darenzo

RE: Tesla coil discharge?
« Reply #2, on September 13th, 2013, 07:36 AM »Last edited on September 13th, 2013, 07:49 AM by Darenzo
Quote from Allgood-Energy on September 12th, 2013, 08:05 PM
I built a Tesla Coil about 50 Years ago and I still have it, I have experimented with it and have produced a number of videos on You-tube look it up,  AllgoodAutomation there. you will find the videos here.
/watch?v=BWGxwGrAVjA
/watch?v=DVV6_u3p65g
/watch?v=5nZln29m4qQ:idea:
 TC Electrolysis is not a new Idea.
To answer your question about the electrons the arcing at the primary and secondary are both ripping electrons off from the surrounding air and then charging the air with + and _ ions. The Tesla Coil creates a gas called O3
OZONE. It is very pungent in odor. you can sometimes smell it after a lighting strike and definitely  when you run the TC.

Tom  :idea:
Quote from Darenzo on September 12th, 2013, 05:14 PM
Hey guys ...
Could someone enlighten me about tesla coils ??
Specificity corona discharge ..
So the sparks you see from the top of the coil are what exactly .? Are they electrons being discharged into the air  or are they electrons being sucked out of the air and being dumped to ground ?? ..
I ask because and i quote from wikipedia (tesla coils)

 As energy builds within the oscillating secondary circuit, the amplitude of the toroid's RF voltage rapidly increases, and the air surrounding the toroid begins to undergo dielectric breakdown, forming a corona discharge.

I have this idea of using a tesla coil to breakdown water (dielectric breakdown)
for hho production
Thanks :)
Thanks tom you are most helpful :)
Great videos too ..

lamare

RE: Tesla coil discharge?
« Reply #3, on September 13th, 2013, 09:01 AM »
Quote from Darenzo on September 12th, 2013, 05:14 PM
I have this idea of using a tesla coil to breakdown water (dielectric breakdown)
for hho production
Thanks :)
That's exactly the principle of Stan's EARLIER working car, in which he almost certainly used electropolished stainless. He just used a polarized dielectric to create the field instead of a Tesla coil.

See:
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1168


Allgood-Energy

RE: Tesla coil discharge?
« Reply #4, on September 13th, 2013, 10:08 AM »
The problem with water it may be a good insulator and have a good dielectric constant but it is not a solid its a liquid which allows the charged ions to move around and neutralize when the charge field gradient is removed.

I attached a jpg image file, I created that shows how pure water electrolysis works at each plate and how the electrons are given and taken away at the plates for current to flow. I wonder if electrolysis can occur with out the current flow as Stan Meyer Claims with out current flow and only a large Static  High Voltage  field gradient.  By definition if you move electrons current flows but in a capacitor once the CAP is charged (Current flow) you can maintain the field if you prevent current flow using good insulating solid materials but these materials wont allow electron flow. Electrons are given up by the negative plate to make the hydrogen and taken back at the positive plate to make the Oxygen. Twice as many  hydrogen H2 reactions have to take place to get one oxygen O2.  

 Tom Allgood
Quote from lamare on September 13th, 2013, 09:01 AM
Quote from Darenzo on September 12th, 2013, 05:14 PM
I have this idea of using a tesla coil to breakdown water (dielectric breakdown)
for hho production
Thanks :)
That's exactly the principle of Stan's EARLIER working car, in which he almost certainly used electropolished stainless. He just used a polarized dielectric to create the field instead of a Tesla coil.

See:
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1168

Matt Watts

RE: Tesla coil discharge?
« Reply #5, on September 13th, 2013, 02:28 PM »
Great visual explanation Tom.  So the gas really isn't HHO, it's O2 + (2) H2.

geenee

RE: Tesla coil discharge?
« Reply #6, on September 13th, 2013, 05:53 PM »
stop current flow by relay.2 relays from pos plate and neg plate.use dc charge it and then open circuit both side of wfc,no current flow anymore.IMHO.just thought.

thanks
geenee

Lynx

RE: Tesla coil discharge?
« Reply #7, on September 14th, 2013, 12:56 AM »Last edited on June 13th, 2014, 05:32 AM
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