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Title: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on December 21st, 2011, 06:39 AM
I thought i would Start a post for the Kapanadze Generator.

The Original Kapanadze is what I would like to replicate. Although the video replica is a little schetchy it does seem real. Unlike the others, the Kapanadze is Self powered and started with only a 9V Battery

There seems to be three device classifications:

1) Kapanadze
Schematic:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/kapa/Kapanadze.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapanadze.jpg)
(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapanadze_sm.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkvXoDfk7g&feature=player_embedded


2) Kapagen
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)
The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/kapa/Kapagen.gif(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapagen.gif)
(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapagen_sm.gif)


3) SR193



Other Forums Threads Sources...

http://teep.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=821&whichpage=2(http://teep.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=821&whichpage=2)

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5756-my-smith-kanapadz-replication-14.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5756-my-smith-kanapadz-replication-14.html)





So I am wondering if anyone has a source for the ferrite core rings for the Kapanadze. There are 20 of them with a OD 45mm u=2000 for a total length of 140mm which would equal 7mm width
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on December 21st, 2011, 10:05 AM
I came across this info on coils, mainly to do with tesla/smith/kapanadze but it made for an interesting read. (oh and a recent addition on cylindrical asymetric capacitors)

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter5.pdf Pages 41-107.

and this

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf  Pages 65  There are some links to videos of a russian guy running an angle grinder off a smith/kapandze, cant tell what the input power is as the audio is all in russian.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on January 2nd, 2012, 10:30 AM
Have a look here,     http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf      Pages 40 - 48.

A recently posted complete schematic and build guide from a guy who is claiming to be living off the grid, and cheap to build so far as i can tell. So i thought i'd take a crack at it as ive got most of the bits already. The glues drying on the spool at the minute and ive gotta wait for a couple of parts to be delivered but will let you know how it goes.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on January 11th, 2012, 08:11 AM
So I am still looking for a source for these ferrite rings found in the kapanadze schematics

20 ferrite rings are needed
The specs are:
u=2000
OD= 45mm
Length= 7mm  (I calculated this from schematics)(140mm total Length /20)


Any leads would be awesome,

Thnaks!
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on January 11th, 2012, 07:12 PM
Thanks for the Links Phil. I didn't realize http://free-energy-info.co.uk(http://free-energy-info.co.uk) was constantly updating there site

Which led me hear..
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Kapanadze_Free_Energy_Generator#Official_Website(http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Kapanadze_Free_Energy_Generator#Official_Website)

Thanks peswiki.com(http://peswiki.com)!!!
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on January 12th, 2012, 08:11 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 11th, 2012, 07:12 PM
Thanks for the Links Phil. I didn't realize http://free-energy-info.co.uk(http://free-energy-info.co.uk) was constantly updating there site

Which led me hear..
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Kapanadze_Free_Energy_Generator#Official_Website(http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Kapanadze_Free_Energy_Generator#Official_Website)

Thanks peswiki.com(http://peswiki.com)!!!
no probs, yeah hes been updateing it  every few days lately heres the link for the updates
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Updates.html
 It would seem the floodgates  are well and truly open on the don smith stuff right now!
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: serfer2 on February 27th, 2012, 02:57 AM
Hello,

I've found a Spanish site for buying ferrite rings:  http://www.laboutiquedeliman.com/ferrita.html(http://www.laboutiquedeliman.com/ferrita.html)
The ring code is: CAA45225
I'm Spanish too and I've talking with them by phone and they seems to be a serious site.
They have a url for international orders:
http://www.laboutiquedelimaninternational.com/productos.aspx?idSubFamilia=281&idFamilia=80(http://www.laboutiquedelimaninternational.com/productos.aspx?idSubFamilia=281&idFamilia=80)

I hope this help you.

Now I'm looking for the High Voltage transformer, named "HV Tr3" in the Kapanadze schematic. I've some questions about it:

 - In Kapagen schematic we can see a "Microwave Oven Transformer", is the "HV Tr3" of the Kapanadze the same transformer? In other words:
 Can I use this kind of Microwave Oven transformer for the HV transformer of the Kapanadze?

 - Anybody can tell me which are the electrical specifications of the "HV Tr3"?

Thanks in advice ;)
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Blazer on February 27th, 2012, 08:44 AM
Possible build your own formula for building your own core?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIdNqTR4WMU
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Blazer on February 27th, 2012, 08:44 AM
Possible build your own formula for building your own core?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIdNqTR4WMU
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: serfer2 on February 27th, 2012, 10:04 AM
Hello,

it has 4.200 Gauss, see:
http://www.laboutiquedelimaninternational.com/productosDetalle.aspx?id=4679

I've not a strong knowledge of magnetism. Wikipedia says: "the more conductive a material is to a magnetic field, the higher its permeability." see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_%28electromagnetism%29

I think 4.200 gauss will be better than 2.000 because higher permeability means more capacity to attract and conduct the magnetic fields (less resistance).

What do you think about it?
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on February 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)

The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on March 1st, 2012, 02:54 PM
Quote from serfer2 on February 27th, 2012, 10:04 AM
Hello,

it has 4.200 Gauss, see:
http://www.laboutiquedelimaninternational.com/productosDetalle.aspx?id=4679

I've not a strong knowledge of magnetism. Wikipedia says: "the more conductive a material is to a magnetic field, the higher its permeability." see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_%28electromagnetism%29

I think 4.200 gauss will be better than 2.000 because higher permeability means more capacity to attract and conduct the magnetic fields (less resistance).

What do you think about it?
If you got a spare 150 dollars you can get a 4 inch length of permalloy rod, permebility 10000-80000. I saw a demo where a foot length or so can pick up a bunch of paper clips when its pointed in a North South direction, when its turned to the  east west direction they drop off. This stuff loves to be magnetized! Ive wondered if you could use this stuff in a 8hz resonant circuit to capture schumann resonance maybe to just charge batteries. The moths in my wallet wont let me part with that kinda money for a little bit of metal right now.:P


Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: pha3z on March 7th, 2012, 12:42 PM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on February 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)

The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
Jean-Louis Naudin Kapanadze generator is not really a working replication.  Its a failure because its not even OU and he shows it in his own numbers.

The only guys I've seen that actually seem to have merit with Kapanadze and Don Smith replications are the Lithunia and Russian folks.  Particularly the work of Dynatron and Destine2012.  Dynatron actually has a complete explanation of how he has come to understand electricity as two flows of positive and negative type particles moving toward one another.  The current principle of electron flow as the only part of electricity does not hold up to scrutiny.  Aetheric or ionic particles within circuit make up the positive component.

There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)
Files can be found here:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://)

WARNING TO ALL:  I have studied these devices pretty intensely and done much Tesla experimenting.  These devices ARE EXTREMELY Complex in terms of Theoretical Behavior.  Do NOT bother to try replicating these devices unless you plan to be extremely judicious in your experimenting and studying of fundamental behavior.  These devices operate on principles which have been completely suppressed in Electrical Engineering.  A fundamental understanding of Transient Waves and other Transient phenomena is extremely helpful.  If you find wave theory and the concept of transient dielectric fields to be confusing, I would not even bother with these devices.  Phenomena include electron pumping, charge funneling, transient capacitor discharges, aetheric disturbance, and standing waves which are almost impossible to monitor correctly with an oscilloscope.

Destine2012 on Youtube.  PHENOMENAL MATERIAL.  He gives a whole lecture (unfortunately in Russian) on how Donald Smith device works:
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos(http://)

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/(http://)

Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: pha3z on March 7th, 2012, 12:43 PM
This is not spam.  Why did the thing tell me its a spam message?
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on February 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)

The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
Jean-Louis Naudin Kapanadze generator is not really a working replication.  Its a failure because its not even OU and he shows it in his own numbers.

The only guys I've seen that actually seem to have merit with Kapanadze and Don Smith replications are the Lithunia and Russian folks.  Particularly the work of Dynatron and Destine2012.  Dynatron actually has a complete explanation of how he has come to understand electricity as two flows of positive and negative type particles moving toward one another.  The current principle of electron flow as the only part of electricity does not hold up to scrutiny.  Aetheric or ionic particles within circuit make up the positive component.

There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)
Files can be found here:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://)

WARNING TO ALL:  I have studied these devices pretty intensely and done much Tesla experimenting.  These devices ARE EXTREMELY Complex in terms of Theoretical Behavior.  Do NOT bother to try replicating these devices unless you plan to be extremely judicious in your experimenting and studying of fundamental behavior.  These devices operate on principles which have been completely suppressed in Electrical Engineering.  A fundamental understanding of Transient Waves and other Transient phenomena is extremely helpful.  If you find wave theory and the concept of transient dielectric fields to be confusing, I would not even bother with these devices.  Phenomena include electron pumping, charge funneling, transient capacitor discharges, aetheric disturbance, and standing waves which are almost impossible to monitor correctly with an oscilloscope.

Destine2012 on Youtube.  PHENOMENAL MATERIAL.  He gives a whole lecture (unfortunately in Russian) on how Donald Smith device works:
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos(http://)

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/(http://)

Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: pha3z on March 7th, 2012, 12:43 PM
I just attempted to reply tot his and I got some kind of message claiming it was a spam message.  O_o
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: panonoobis on March 9th, 2012, 08:27 AM
hay all

this is my first post so first hello all of the RWGresearch forum :cool:

whell i have bin reading alot of info in the past time, and i can see way the kapanadza would work, i think this can also be dan without the feriet cors only the RF wil be in the Mhz rage and is pruty difficald to get to that frequentie and HV without som verry expensive cap's, i think the small coil (L2) is 1/4 of the wave langth of the big coil (L1)

 the HV inpute is devided by the turns of the L1 coil so let se 4kv inpute devide by lets se 80 turns is 50 volts a turn, this is than multiplayt times the L2 coil's turns. lets se 6 turns is 300vac.

to calcelate the wavelangth of a frequentie you could do this

.......C.........300000
Y=  ----- = ---------- =  24meter
.......f.........12500khz

to calculate the wirelangth
.................... y ........24
wirelangth = ----- = ------ = 6 meter
....................4..........4

so L2 wil be 1/4 wavelangth that is 6/4 = 1.5 meter

so i think we sould lock @ wirelanghs or inductence and self capacitons of the coils
instead of turns ratio, the turns can be calcualated for the right outpute volts.  

this is for a air core coil but if u use feriet it wil bring the inductens up and the resonace frequentie down. so one could calculate the rf of a coil with with a feriet core.. or just do the wire langth thingy and add a copper or feriet rot inside until you wil get resonance. ( i have seen this on youtube someware, they added a rod in the coil and on de oscillascoop you would se a 2-3 resonant wave's)

the modulation coil thing is quit intresisting for geting the 50hz outpute. dont know wat this would do with the rf of the rest of the coils...?

im not a electrical engeneer so this is just wat i think, im going to build this and give it a try, i have alot of the components alredy,  i wil olso note my progresss on this forum :D

greets to all,
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:55 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on February 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)

The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
Jean-Louis Naudin Kapanadze generator is not really a working replication.  Its a failure because its not even OU and he shows it in his own numbers.

The only guys I've seen that actually seem to have merit with Kapanadze and Don Smith replications are the Lithunia and Russian folks.  Particularly the work of Dynatron and Destine2012.  Dynatron actually has a complete explanation of how he has come to understand electricity as two flows of positive and negative type particles moving toward one another.  The current principle of electron flow as the only part of electricity does not hold up to scrutiny.  Aetheric or ionic particles within circuit make up the positive component.

There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)
Files can be found here:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://)

WARNING TO ALL:  I have studied these devices pretty intensely and done much Tesla experimenting.  These devices ARE EXTREMELY Complex in terms of Theoretical Behavior.  Do NOT bother to try replicating these devices unless you plan to be extremely judicious in your experimenting and studying of fundamental behavior.  These devices operate on principles which have been completely suppressed in Electrical Engineering.  A fundamental understanding of Transient Waves and other Transient phenomena is extremely helpful.  If you find wave theory and the concept of transient dielectric fields to be confusing, I would not even bother with these devices.  Phenomena include electron pumping, charge funneling, transient capacitor discharges, aetheric disturbance, and standing waves which are almost impossible to monitor correctly with an oscilloscope.  Your oscilloscope and traditional methods will even send you down the wrong path.

Destine2012 on Youtube.  PHENOMENAL MATERIAL.  He gives a whole lecture (unfortunately in Russian) on how Donald Smith device works:
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos(http://)

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/(http://)
Title: Difficult at best
Post by: pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:56 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on February 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)

The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
Jean-Louis Naudin Kapanadze generator is not really a working replication.  Its a failure because its not even OU and he shows it in his own numbers.

The only guys I've seen that actually seem to have merit with Kapanadze and Don Smith replications are the Lithunia and Russian folks.  Particularly the work of Dynatron and Destine2012.  Dynatron actually has a complete explanation of how he has come to understand electricity as two flows of positive and negative type particles moving toward one another.  The current principle of electron flow as the only part of electricity does not hold up to scrutiny.  Aetheric or ionic particles within circuit make up the positive component.

WARNING TO ALL:  I have studied these devices pretty intensely and done much Tesla experimenting.  These devices ARE EXTREMELY Complex in terms of Theoretical Behavior.  Do NOT bother to try replicating these devices unless you plan to be extremely judicious in your experimenting and studying of fundamental behavior.  These devices operate on principles which have been completely suppressed in Electrical Engineering.  A fundamental understanding of Transient Waves and other Transient phenomena is extremely helpful.  If you find wave theory and the concept of transient dielectric fields to be confusing, I would not even bother with these devices.  Phenomena include electron pumping, charge funneling, transient capacitor discharges, aetheric disturbance, and standing waves which are almost impossible to monitor correctly with an oscilloscope.  Your oscilloscope and traditional methods will even send you down the wrong path.

I was going to post links to the best material on the net on this information.  But the forum keeps telling me it detects it as a spam message.  Seriously messed up.

Here is ONE link.  We'll see if it lets me include this one:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/
The above energetic forum link for Dynatron goes to a 3 part English Translation of Dynatrons explanation of how Donald Smith device works.  I highly suggest reading this even if you're working on Kapanadze device.  This explanation gets to the heart of some of the hidden truths about what electricity really is.

Here are Dynatron's videos as well.  If anyone can translate Russian, please translate the chalkboard lecture videos.  They are outstanding.  He goes through every single aspect of the working circuit part-by-part.  The only thing I can glean from it by watching is that you'll notice he does some wave drawings.  He shows a sin wave next to a sharp discharge wave.  He understands what's going on with the transient circuit states.  He's talking about the right stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/
I will add one more thing:

If you don't know what an LMD wave is, you may never get these devices to be OU.  There is much speculation that these devices possibly working on LMD scalar waves as demonstrated by Konstatin Meyl in his live experiment demo showing Hertzian vs Scalar transmission.  You can NOT see the scalar wave on scope.  If you tune to frequencies to generate Hertzian frequencies, you may never get the device to operate correctly.
Title: Split Message
Post by: pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:57 AM
There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)
Files can be found here:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://)

Destine2012 on Youtube.  PHENOMENAL MATERIAL.  He gives a whole lecture (unfortunately in Russian) on how Donald Smith device works:
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos(http://)

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/(http://)
Title: Split Message
Post by: pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:58 AM
There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)
Files can be found here:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/[)

Destine2012 on Youtube.  PHENOMENAL MATERIAL.  He gives a whole lecture (unfortunately in Russian) on how Donald Smith device works:
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos(https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos)

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/(http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/)
Title: Split Message
Post by: pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:59 AM
There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html
Files can be found here:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/

Destine2012 on Youtube.  PHENOMENAL MATERIAL.  He gives a whole lecture (unfortunately in Russian) on how Donald Smith device works:
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/
Title: Split Message
Post by: pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:59 AM
There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)
Files can be found here:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/[)

Destine2012 on Youtube.  PHENOMENAL MATERIAL.  He gives a whole lecture (unfortunately in Russian) on how Donald Smith device works:
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos(https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos)

- Jim
Title: Split Message
Post by: pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 09:00 AM
There are three posts covering the English translation of Dynatrons explanation here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)
Title: RE: Difficult at best
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on March 12th, 2012, 12:08 PM
Quote from pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:56 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on February 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)

The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
Jean-Louis Naudin Kapanadze generator is not really a working replication.  Its a failure because its not even OU and he shows it in his own numbers.

The only guys I've seen that actually seem to have merit with Kapanadze and Don Smith replications are the Lithunia and Russian folks.  Particularly the work of Dynatron and Destine2012.  Dynatron actually has a complete explanation of how he has come to understand electricity as two flows of positive and negative type particles moving toward one another.  The current principle of electron flow as the only part of electricity does not hold up to scrutiny.  Aetheric or ionic particles within circuit make up the positive component.

WARNING TO ALL:  I have studied these devices pretty intensely and done much Tesla experimenting.  These devices ARE EXTREMELY Complex in terms of Theoretical Behavior.  Do NOT bother to try replicating these devices unless you plan to be extremely judicious in your experimenting and studying of fundamental behavior.  These devices operate on principles which have been completely suppressed in Electrical Engineering.  A fundamental understanding of Transient Waves and other Transient phenomena is extremely helpful.  If you find wave theory and the concept of transient dielectric fields to be confusing, I would not even bother with these devices.  Phenomena include electron pumping, charge funneling, transient capacitor discharges, aetheric disturbance, and standing waves which are almost impossible to monitor correctly with an oscilloscope.  Your oscilloscope and traditional methods will even send you down the wrong path.


I was going to post links to the best material on the net on this information.  But the forum keeps telling me it detects it as a spam message.  Seriously messed up.

Here is ONE link.  We'll see if it lets me include this one:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/

The above energetic forum link for Dynatron goes to a 3 part English Translation of Dynatrons explanation of how Donald Smith device works.  I highly suggest reading this even if you're working on Kapanadze device.  This explanation gets to the heart of some of the hidden truths about what electricity really is.

Here are Dynatron's videos as well.  If anyone can translate Russian, please translate the chalkboard lecture videos.  They are outstanding.  He goes through every single aspect of the working circuit part-by-part.  The only thing I can glean from it by watching is that you'll notice he does some wave drawings.  He shows a sin wave next to a sharp discharge wave.  He understands what's going on with the transient circuit states.  He's talking about the right stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/

I will add one more thing:

If you don't know what an LMD wave is, you may never get these devices to be OU.  There is much speculation that these devices possibly working on LMD scalar waves as demonstrated by Konstatin Meyl in his live experiment demo showing Hertzian vs Scalar transmission.  You can NOT see the scalar wave on scope.  If you tune to frequencies to generate Hertzian frequencies, you may never get the device to operate correctly.
Whoa, nice one pha3z!! Sounds like some wise words of truth, give us plenty more to consider now. Thank you for the clarifications many of us needed.

Can you please try to re-post those links or msg them to me so I can try to get them posted?

Where do I go within the Dynoytron link to find the 3 part English Translation?
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/)
Title: RE: Difficult at best
Post by: pha3z on March 12th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Dynatron English translation:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html)

Ctrl+F to search the page for "Dushina NA 23.02.2011g."

There are three posts which contain the english translation in three parts.  I think someone has also compiled a link to a PDF.

- Jim
Title: RE: Difficult at best
Post by: pha3z on March 12th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Dynatron English in 3 parts on three posts is here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-11.html(http://)

Someone has also posted a pdf but I'm not sure if it contains all the same text.  You'll have to check.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on March 12th, 2012, 04:49 PM
Heres a little pdf with some LMD stuff and some tesla experiments. Not going to pretend i understaned the equations at the end at all yet. But there we go.

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Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: pha3z on March 12th, 2012, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the link, Phil!  I've read that presentation before.  You'll notice on one of the pages it says "Longitudinal waves, devoid of magnetic component, emitted from a spherical antenna have been yet observed in past[10]."

The key operator is "devoid of magnetic component."  And from what I understand, to make it devoid of magnetic component, you've got to utilize the voltage transient impressed upon the spherical antenna when the LMD wave races to the top/center of transmitter coil and crashes into the antenna.  The TME wave will follow afterward in the wake of the LMD.  If you let the TME wave take over, you'll introduce the magnetic component and you don't have a pure scalar wave transmission anymore.

I'm going to think out loud here, because I've hit so many brick walls in my work, that I am scratching at the doorposts for the right direction go in next.  My brain is bleeding!  So don't get too confused by what I'm saying.  Anyone who reads this, should ust look at the problems I point out and use them as food for thought.  Or give me the answers if you have them! :)

The one thing that has frustrated me beyond belief in studying all this stuff, and doing my own bench tests (of which have all been failures thus far), is that you'll notice people use "standing waves" and "stationary waves" terms loosely and throw them around as if a standing wave is automatically the magic creature to get all these scalar energy and OU type effects.  I see no reason to think that this is the case.    You can have a TME standing wave in the system and get none of the scalar effects.

I have aquired quite a bit of knowledge on these waves through painstakingly study of cryptic information presented by others.  And I've been thinking about making a presentation in the form of a PDF on this matter.  But I'm extremely hesitant to do so since I have not yet built a working scalar system with scalar effects.  I could be completely wrong in everything I say and don't have a platform to stand on.

There are two problems with my setup.  Firstly, it COULD be that I have not built large spiral pancake secondaries.  I use conventional cylindrical coil like conventional Tesla.  Meyl actually claims Tesla Coil builders prefer the cylindrical coil out of ignorance.  He seems to indicate that pancake transmitter/receiver is the preferred design.  However, I won't praise him as the authority on everything either.  His material is rather cryptic and hodge-podge.  He's got his own take on everything, and I don't believe everything he says is correct.  I have seen absolutely no argument or evidence ever to convincingly show that a cylinder coil won't work.  Also consider that Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter was NOT a pancake coil.

I have small pancake secondaries but they function in the several Mhz range and I do not have the equipment to operate them.  I should have made them bigger.

The second possible problem which I believe is actually the real problem is that I have always operated my systems at TME frequency.  From what I gather, the TME frequency SHOULD be the frequency of the ring-down you see on an oscope view of circuit after you pulse the circuit with a very short pulse.  The sinusoidal ring-down is the NET result of the LMD and TME waves at work in the system, but in particular, I believe that the ring-down will more-or-less represent TME propagation.  The TME wave is limited by electrical propagation along the line conductor below the speed of light.  The LMD wave is a transient effect in space caused by the capacity between conductors.  Notice that this LMD wave will jump across conductors and race through a coil faster than the TME or ordinary current can keep up.

Here's the ironic thing that I am 90% certain I am correct about and had to figure it out myself as anyone might roll something over in his mind until the full mechanics come together:
1. When the antenna is charged, you have a difference of potential between the antenna and ground.  As a result, the antenna will naturally want to discharge.  
2. The antenna will begin to discharge.  The beginning of current flow is the formation of the leading edge of the TME wave.  Notice this wave will more-or-less follow the conductor in the form of current.
3. As soon as TME wave begins to propagate, you now have voltage drop in the antenna.  The voltage drop is instantaneously felt by nearby conductors. This is the cause of the LMD wave formation!!   It is ironic that this wave will race ahead jumping across the conductors and reach the ground AHEAD of the TME wave.  In fact, since its accelerated, it will only get farther and farther ahead of the TME wave the longer the coil is.  It is ironic that the LMD wave occurs as the effect of the discharge and TME formation, yet the LMD wave can propagate faster than the TME wave.

Noone anywhere seems to have pointed this out in the way I just explained.  And yet, my mechanical explanation seems to most clearly (at least in my eyes) explain how you get OU effects and broken symmetry with this superluminal velocity wave.  The LMD wave is able to produce disturbances in other circuits and other parts of a given circuit before the exciting charge ever reaches that part of the circuit.

I will give credit to Alex Petty for helping to form my view.  He seems to have an extremely good perspective about superluminal effects and even the math behind them.

Now all this stuff could be a bunch of nonsense really when it comes to the Donald Smith and Kapanadze devices, but I don't think so.  I think its got real merit and directly applies.  Why?  Because I haven't seen anyone (and I have asked and asked and probed) EVER be able to properly explain how these devices cause OU.   The best I've seen came from Arunas (Lithuania) T-1000 claiming that its not a critical issue to get obsessed with specific coil geometries -- what matters most, he said, is breaking symmetry with a standing wave.  Ok?  So?  I've built a system that has standing waves -- did it break symmetry? ABSOLUTELY NOT.  My system doesn't work!   Building standing waves isn't enough.  You can still get magnetic and dielectric coupling effects where anything you do to the load is still felt by the source.  And personally, I can't see anyway to avoid this other than by using superluminal velocity waves that cause a time-separation between the exciting source charge and the effect in the load.

If anyone's familiar with Vladimir Utkin's work, please speak up (vladimir has a document on the web that demonstrates all kinds of ways to supposedly break symmetry and get OU effects).  I've studied his PDF a whole lot and even corresponded with him.  And he always gives me really poor answers and acts like I'm the one who doesn't get it.  I point blank asked him if he achieved OU on his desk, and he didn't respond.  There is a very good chance I have not properly implemented the designs he explains.  I hope the problem is only on my end.
I am going to add one thing that might blow everything I said out of the water.

When I was pooring through some material last night, I did notice a claim that Tesla set his recievers up to charge capacitors and timed the capacitors to discharge between the pulses they received.  The claim did NOT say whether those discharges happened after every single pulse or only after N number of pulses.  It did, however, say, that Tesla had a lot of trouble keeping the timing of these discharges  correct.

I will point out that the charging of a capacitor automatically changes the resonant frequency of the reciever (Hence the need to discharge it).  This has been a huge pain in the neck that I have found with my devices.  In order to have the system work at all, I believe the capacitor must be discharged after EVERY pulse.  The output must be completely isolated from the recieving circuit as much as possible.  This dilemma is why Donald Smith devices have been so confusing for people to figure out.  Its one thing to create a standing wave or resonant condition.  Its a completely different thing to impart the magnified energy  to a load without losing the parameters of resonance.  This is why you see wanna-be replications running light bulbs and resistive loads.  A resistive load doesn't change teh capacity or inductance of the circuit.  Anybody can build a resonant circuit and stick a resistor or lightbulb in there.  Few have done more than that.

The way I see it, its a pain in the neck to store up any significant amount of power in a capacitive form.  The energy has got to be imparted to a load and used up on demand, to clear the path for more energy to flow in from the resonant circuitry.  The condition for resonance must be maintained!

- Jim

Had to post one more thing.  Glad Phil called attention again to this pdf from Handwerker.

Handwerker goes out of his way to point out this:
Thereare two different main resonance frequencies f0 and f1, where f1= 1,57 .f0; for instance f0= 1 MHz and f1= 1,57 MHz; the relationship is therefore: f1 = f2 * pi/2

But your scope doesn't show two resonant frequencies.  Hence, the fact that I concluded the ring-down frequency must be the TME frequency and the one I mistakenly used in all past attempts.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: pha3z on March 12th, 2012, 08:36 PM
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did anyone ever see this!!!!!!??????

http://www.deltaavalon.com/immagini/Longitudinal%20waves%20&%20water%20intro.pdf

http://www.deltaavalon.com/immagini/H2O%20Wireless%20electricity.pdf

Evidently, the water automatically filters out all TME effects.  LOLOL
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on March 13th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Ive read Utkins stuff a few times. Just not got round to making anything, so ive got no results to share. I dont know if im missing something in the translation from russian, it reads to me like hes saying...here are some bullets, now go make youre own gun! :)

 Seems theres a few people out there and out eastern europe way in general claiming OU, youve got t1000, wes, arunas, zilano, TPU and there was TK. (Has he died? I know he was poisioned but in hospital.)

So i wondered if youre primary freq. was 1 mhz say and you made a secondary circuit to resonate at 1.57 mhz we'd be capturing the longitudinal waves?

Just been having  little brainstorm, but bare with me. 1.57 is not a million miles off 1.6 (phi, golden ratio?) , its seen in nature, linked to the fibbonacci sequence (don smith says something about this too in one of his vids)

Liked the water antenna thing, a few things sprung to mind, is there a limit to the number of glass recievers you can fit around 1 transmitter? Can they chuck the output thru a step-down transformer instead of a neon tube to get some amps?
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: panonoobis on March 13th, 2012, 07:05 PM
Quote from phil on March 13th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Ive read Utkins stuff a few times. Just not got round to making anything, so ive got no results to share. I dont know if im missing something in the translation from russian, it reads to me like hes saying...here are some bullets, now go make youre own gun! :)

 Seems theres a few people out there and out eastern europe way in general claiming OU, youve got t1000, wes, arunas, zilano, TPU and there was TK. (Has he died? I know he was poisioned but in hospital.)

So i wondered if youre primary freq. was 1 mhz say and you made a secondary circuit to resonate at 1.57 mhz we'd be capturing the longitudinal waves?

Just been having  little brainstorm, but bare with me. 1.57 is not a million miles off 1.6 (phi, golden ratio?) , its seen in nature, linked to the fibbonacci sequence (don smith says something about this too in one of his vids)

Liked the water antenna thing, a few things sprung to mind, is there a limit to the number of glass recievers you can fit around 1 transmitter? Can they chuck the output thru a step-down transformer instead of a neon tube to get some amps?
Hey Phill

i was having the same breanstorm :P

but woldent it be so if you tune a primary on 1mhz and a sec on 1.57mhz woldend the LMD resonence of the sec coil be f1= f0. phi / 2 = 1.57.phi / 2 = 2.46mhz

becous of the diffrent tipe of waves TEM > LMD you have diffrend resonace points for diffrent waves.

and isint a tesla coil build for generating LMD waves becouse of resonance..?
but i dont know im still new to all of this.. hihihi
it would be a nice experiment  2 do someday soon.

greets,,
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: pha3z on March 13th, 2012, 07:36 PM
I believe Zilano is a disinformant agent.  She always talks about how great "resonance" is.  There is nothing magical about resonance alone.  It takes more than just oscillatory LC resonance to get overunity.

There are other resonances besides LC resonance.  But Zilano never mentions that. As long as people stay in the dark about multiple different resonances in these systems, everyone will continue to look at the broken old underunity idea of Electromagnetic LC Resonance.  I just read an article last night from a guy pointing out that within an oscillating coil, you also have Magnetic (not EM LC tank circuit resonance, but pure magnetic) Resonance.  This is a whole different phenomena and the magnetic resonance of a circuit is DIFFERENT than its natural oscillation LC frequency!

----------------------------------------------

Is there a limit to the number of water column receivers you can fit around the transmitter?  This is where the whole dilemma I've been talking about comes from.  If you transmit waves at the TEM frequency, you will find that anything conductive in the viscinity of the transmitter effects the transmitter.  A receiver ends up acting like one plate of a capacitor and the transmitter acts like the other plate.  So as soon as you introduce the reciever to the system, you change the capacitant behavior of the transmitter.

I had to do tons of my own experiments to figure this out.  I can't find any way around it when you are using ordinary TEM frequency.  That's why I mentioned Utkin's work.  Utkin has all these great ideas illustrating on how you can "break symmetry" and overcome the problem.  But I've tested some of htem and they don't work as described.  I have corresponded with him about this and he finally said "There is no way to take energy out of the system without changing it."   Then I replied and said "I don't agree with you." because I think he's looking at it wrong.   Everything he says has to do with special field arrangements.  None of it has anything to do with time.  I believe time is the key to everything because of the behavior of wave propagation.

Hence the fact that Handwerker clearly says there are TWO distinct resonant frequencies.  And one of them is for the LMD wave which travels faster than conducted electricity.  According to Meyl's claims, the LMD frequency is automatically OU and the TEM frequency is way under unity.

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Btw, I asked our fellow Tesla Coil builders from the famous Pupman group about LMD waves and one of them came back with some garbage about "pseudo-science".   These clowns don't even know what an LMD wave is.  

Both waves appear in the circuit.  But which resonance point you pick determines which wave manifests most strongly.  Guess which wave the tesla coilers pick?  The TEM wave.  Pure wasted magnetic high current energy.

---------------------------------------

Regarding your ideas of resonating the primary as a TEM circuit and amplifying LMD waves in the secondary by setting it to resonate at LMD frequency, this is a good thought.  You're thinking outside the box.  I won't comment beyond that.

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Regarding Phi ratio, do you know what the definition of the Phi ratio is?  It is completely different and unrelated to the 1.57 ratio.  And what you percieve as a small difference in numbers is actually a HUGE difference.  Phi ratio is special in that if you pick any two numbers with the Phi ratio, those numbers will have the least possible number of common harmonics, octaves, factors, etc etc.  Think of Phi ratio as the most dissident combination possible.  It creates the greatest dis-harmony.  This could be used favorably if you wanted to create two resonating circuits that had the least affect on each other or possibly limit their effect to be one-directional so that one effects the other but not vice versa.

I can tell you that the 1.57 and the Phi ratios being close is completely coincidence.  I can say that with confidence because of the sensitivity of LMD circuits.  I have built highly magnetic (thick wound coils) as well as highly dielectric (single layer coils) and used both of them in resonant circuits.  The highly magnetic circuits are extremely forgiving.  You can tune to a frequency that is off by as much as 25 percent and still get resonant effects.  With a highly dielectric circuit, if you're off by even 5 percent, you will have absolutely no resonance.  They are extremely intolerant of tuning mistakes.  This is always why the LMD wave easily alludes our pursuits.  It is highly sensitive.

- Jim
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: panonoobis on March 14th, 2012, 10:06 AM
hola,,

whel harmonics are importent as we know, and i whas thinking hehe :P

if the kapanadze from above the one with a modulation coil of 230v 50hz

if u take a harmonic of 50hz and make that the rf of the coil than you could modulate the 50hz with no problem right..?

and sommting more. if we take the note 'G' 48hz (if we use pythagorean scale)

and we  take the 15th harmonic of it like this 48*2^15 we wil get 1.57....mhz
"""BREANSTORM""""
so if we would take a 48hz modulation coil and a 1.57mhz hv coil and take a the outpute coil and tune it to f1=1.57*phi/2 =2.46 mhz so we would generate LMD waves and pick them up with the LMD tune't outpute coil. just a brainstorm hihi,

and some verry intrusing vids about Vibratory Physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fuon4admnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANyxWx48oVg&feature=related

greets,,

Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on March 15th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Quote from panonoobis on March 14th, 2012, 10:06 AM
hola,,

whel harmonics are importent as we know, and i whas thinking hehe :P

if the kapanadze from above the one with a modulation coil of 230v 50hz

if u take a harmonic of 50hz and make that the rf of the coil than you could modulate the 50hz with no problem right..?

and sommting more. if we take the note 'G' 48hz (if we use pythagorean scale)

and we  take the 15th harmonic of it like this 48*2^15 we wil get 1.57....mhz
"""BREANSTORM""""
so if we would take a 48hz modulation coil and a 1.57mhz hv coil and take a the outpute coil and tune it to f1=1.57*phi/2 =2.46 mhz so we would generate LMD waves and pick them up with the LMD tune't outpute coil. just a brainstorm hihi,

and some verry intrusing vids about Vibratory Physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fuon4admnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANyxWx48oVg&feature=related

greets,,
Interesting you came out with 2.46 in your calculation. Didnt don smith say we are supposed to divide something by 246 in his calculations, to get the correct wire length? I never fully grasped that as when i ran the numbers i always ended up with a huge wire length. He goes on to say you chop it down to a managable size, say 10 feet. Then why bother calculatng the length if we are just supposed to chop it down afterwards.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: panonoobis on March 17th, 2012, 05:17 AM
Quote from phil on March 15th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Interesting you came out with 2.46 in your calculation. Didnt don smith say we are supposed to divide something by 246 in his calculations, to get the correct wire length? I never fully grasped that as when i ran the numbers i always ended up with a huge wire length. He goes on to say you chop it down to a managable size, say 10 feet. Then why bother calculatng the length if we are just supposed to chop it down afterwards.
hola phill

whel the 247 thingy that don smith doe is the same as (C/f)/4 this wil give u the selfres from the wire don does it in feet thats way he use's 247 like this..

247/20mhz you wil get 12.35 feet wich is 3.76m
if we use metric you could use this formula to (c/f)/4 (300000/2000khz)/4 is 3.75.....meter ;) (the litle difrence is just conversion crap from feet to Meters)

the think is you could use wire langths to calculate a aprox frequentie of the system, but jou can also just use a wire langht an @ a capasitor to get it to the resonent frequentie so it realy does not matter, if you have the monny you could use caps otherwise you might want to use wire langts. but to get to khz rage you wil need ALOT of wire or you could use a feriet core ... hihi using a mhz rage frequentie would be cool for the wirelangt but crazylie imposible without hv caps to get to that frequentie.  


Greets
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: phil on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Quote from phil on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Oh and in the same chapter theres an english translation of that dynotron video been added recently.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 05:30 PM
Quote from phil on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Quote from phil on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Oh and in the same chapter theres an english translation of that dynotron video been added recently.
Thanks Phil, I'll look into that  and I hope your business takes off :cool:, I'm trying the same, ebay though, Have fun,:D Jeff.:P
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: supercharged928gts on January 22nd, 2013, 02:24 PM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on December 21st, 2011, 06:39 AM
I thought i would Start a post for the Kapanadze Generator.

The Original Kapanadze is what I would like to replicate. Although the video replica is a little schetchy it does seem real. Unlike the others, the Kapanadze is Self powered and started with only a 9V Battery

There seems to be three device classifications:

1) Kapanadze
Schematic:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/kapa/Kapanadze.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapanadze.jpg)
(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapanadze_sm.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkvXoDfk7g&feature=player_embedded


2) Kapagen
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)
The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/kapa/Kapagen.gif(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapagen.gif)
(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Kapanadze/Kapagen_sm.gif)


3) SR193



Other Forums Threads Sources...

http://teep.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=821&whichpage=2(http://teep.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=821&whichpage=2)

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5756-my-smith-kanapadz-replication-14.html(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5756-my-smith-kanapadz-replication-14.html)





So I am wondering if anyone has a source for the ferrite core rings for the Kapanadze. There are 20 of them with a OD 45mm u=2000 for a total length of 140mm which would equal 7mm width
I would try www.digikey.com, I think they carry ferrite beads.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: FaradayEZ on January 28th, 2013, 09:46 AM
Quote from phil on January 2nd, 2012, 10:30 AM
Have a look here,     http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf      Pages 40 - 48.

A recently posted complete schematic and build guide from a guy who is claiming to be living off the grid, and cheap to build so far as i can tell. So i thought i'd take a crack at it as ive got most of the bits already. The glues drying on the spool at the minute and ive gotta wait for a couple of parts to be delivered but will let you know how it goes.
And? Anybody in our group any success?

Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: tika on February 6th, 2013, 11:19 AM
Hello to all, I just joined in and this is my first post.
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 11th, 2012, 08:11 AM
So I am still looking for a source for these ferrite rings found in the kapanadze schematics

20 ferrite rings are needed
The specs are:
u=2000
OD= 45mm
Length= 7mm  (I calculated this from schematics)(140mm total Length /20)


Any leads would be awesome,

Thnaks!
I found them on eBay, but the vendor only has 16 of them 'for the moment'.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Russian-Ferrite-Ring-45x28x8mm-M2000-Ferrite-Transformer-Ferrite-Toroid-/251180364035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7b843103

If you are in Russia, you can find thicker ones (45x28x12mm), same material here:

http://vertex-rd.ru/catalog/5510435/10444/

Unfortunately, they do not ship outside Russia.

I will try chinese parts for now...

My plan is to try both the RS193 and the Naudin coils, with the RS193 circuit driving it.  Both with a Microwave oven and a HV TV transformer.  

I have a feeling a microwave transformer will not work straight in a closed loop, because there is no storage of the 220VAC, wheras the large 47000uF + 10000uF caps in the 9V power bus will probably hold enough charge to produce the next spark.

Anybody has any thoughts about that ?


A while ago, on Youtube, I came across videos of a guy playing with ferrites.  He had about half a dozen of ring ferrites assembled to form a tube and really stange stuff was going on.  

He had two straight pieces of wire going though the tube and fed voltage to one of them. The other wire was connected to an LED which would light.

Has anybody else seen these videos ?  I cannot find them :(

I am waiting for toroids and should get them next week. Will most definitely try to replicate.

I think that is the key to what makes TK's coil work.

UPDATE:

The ferrite ring did not work.   I am still looking for these videos to check if I missed something...

UPDATE:

New source for these russian ferrites:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261150499750

m:o)
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: securesupplies on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: tika on February 9th, 2013, 08:03 AM
Quote from securesupplies on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan
The parts list is in the schematics.  The HV (TR3) transformer is a TV line transformer.  and the other one a regular 9 V transformer.  As to buying one, it is a bit difficult, because of patent issues.  And I haven't seen a replication directly linked to a working schematics yet.

I got a TV line transformer for 12 euros on eBay.  The 45mm ferrites also.  But not the exact ones specified.  Everything else is off-the-shelf stuff you can get at your favorite electronics store.  Getting the exact same power transistors matter little, but they must withstand at least 2 Amps, voltage is fairly low, but you cannot go wrong with 100V ones, as they are not very expensive.

JL Naudin uses varistors to protect the loads, and that is a lot cheaper than a new light bulb!

For the spark gap, you will need to improvise.  I've seen pretty much everything from spark plugs to wood screws used for that purpose.  If you use a spark plug, remember there is going to be 2 to 3kV on both electrodes.

There is definitely deadly high voltage in this circuit, so be careful to keep the HV wires and connections in one localized section of your build.  The schematics has them crossing the page, but that's only so it fits on the plan.  Keep them as far away from the rest of the circuit as possible.

I am still waiting for delivery of parts, and should start building in the next 10 days, if all goes well.

Good luck!
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: securesupplies on February 10th, 2013, 10:12 PM
Quote from tika on February 9th, 2013, 08:03 AM
Quote from securesupplies on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan
The parts list is in the schematics.  The HV (TR3) transformer is a TV line transformer.  and the other one a regular 9 V transformer.  As to buying one, it is a bit difficult, because of patent issues.  And I haven't seen a replication directly linked to a working schematics yet.

I got a TV line transformer for 12 euros on eBay.  The 45mm ferrites also.  But not the exact ones specified.  Everything else is off-the-shelf stuff you can get at your favorite electronics store.  Getting the exact same power transistors matter little, but they must withstand at least 2 Amps, voltage is fairly low, but you cannot go wrong with 100V ones, as they are not very expensive.

JL Naudin uses varistors to protect the loads, and that is a lot cheaper than a new light bulb!

For the spark gap, you will need to improvise.  I've seen pretty much everything from spark plugs to wood screws used for that purpose.  If you use a spark plug, remember there is going to be 2 to 3kV on both electrodes.

There is definitely deadly high voltage in this circuit, so be careful to keep the HV wires and connections in one localized section of your build.  The schematics has them crossing the page, but that's only so it fits on the plan.  Keep them as far away from the rest of the circuit as possible.

I am still waiting for delivery of parts, and should start building in the next 10 days, if all goes well.

Good luck!
cool can you post a part list in word?
with any sources

Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: tika on February 10th, 2013, 10:48 PM
Quote from securesupplies on February 10th, 2013, 10:12 PM
Quote from tika on February 9th, 2013, 08:03 AM
Quote from securesupplies on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan
The parts list is in the schematics.  The HV (TR3) transformer is a TV line transformer.  and the other one a regular 9 V transformer.  As to buying one, it is a bit difficult, because of patent issues.  And I haven't seen a replication directly linked to a working schematics yet.

I got a TV line transformer for 12 euros on eBay.  The 45mm ferrites also.  But not the exact ones specified.  Everything else is off-the-shelf stuff you can get at your favorite electronics store.  Getting the exact same power transistors matter little, but they must withstand at least 2 Amps, voltage is fairly low, but you cannot go wrong with 100V ones, as they are not very expensive.

JL Naudin uses varistors to protect the loads, and that is a lot cheaper than a new light bulb!

For the spark gap, you will need to improvise.  I've seen pretty much everything from spark plugs to wood screws used for that purpose.  If you use a spark plug, remember there is going to be 2 to 3kV on both electrodes.

There is definitely deadly high voltage in this circuit, so be careful to keep the HV wires and connections in one localized section of your build.  The schematics has them crossing the page, but that's only so it fits on the plan.  Keep them as far away from the rest of the circuit as possible.

I am still waiting for delivery of parts, and should start building in the next 10 days, if all goes well.

Good luck!
cool can you post a part list in word?
with any sources
Read my previous post.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on February 12th, 2013, 09:06 AM
Quote from tika on February 6th, 2013, 11:19 AM
Hello to all, I just joined in and this is my first post.
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 11th, 2012, 08:11 AM
So I am still looking for a source for these ferrite rings found in the kapanadze schematics

20 ferrite rings are needed
The specs are:
u=2000
OD= 45mm
Length= 7mm  (I calculated this from schematics)(140mm total Length /20)


Any leads would be awesome,

Thnaks!
I found them on eBay, but the vendor only has 16 of them 'for the moment'.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Russian-Ferrite-Ring-45x28x8mm-M2000-Ferrite-Transformer-Ferrite-Toroid-/251180364035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7b843103

If you are in Russia, you can find thicker ones (45x28x12mm), same material here:

http://vertex-rd.ru/catalog/5510435/10444/

Unfortunately, they do not ship outside Russia.

I will try chinese parts for now...

My plan is to try both the RS193 and the Naudin coils, with the RS193 circuit driving it.  Both with a Microwave oven and a HV TV transformer.  

I have a feeling a microwave transformer will not work straight in a closed loop, because there is no storage of the 220VAC, wheras the large 47000uF + 10000uF caps in the 9V power bus will probably hold enough charge to produce the next spark.

Anybody has any thoughts about that ?



A while ago, on Youtube, I came across videos of a guy playing with ferrites.  He had about half a dozen of ring ferrites assembled to form a tube and really stange stuff was going on.  

He had two straight pieces of wire going though the tube and fed voltage to one of them. The other wire was connected to an LED which would light.

Has anybody else seen these videos ?  I cannot find them :(

I am waiting for toroids and should get them next week. Will most definitely try to replicate.

I think that is the key to what makes TK's coil work.

UPDATE:

The ferrite ring did not work.   I am still looking for these videos to check if I missed something...
Wow, great job sourcing out those parts. Please keep us updated
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: tika on February 22nd, 2013, 11:25 PM
Quote
A while ago, on Youtube, I came across videos of a guy playing with ferrites.  He had about half a dozen of ring ferrites assembled to form a tube and really stange stuff was going on.  

He had two straight pieces of wire going though the tube and fed voltage to one of them. The other wire was connected to an LED which would light.

Has anybody else seen these videos ?  I cannot find them :(

I am waiting for toroids and should get them next week. Will most definitely try to replicate.

I think that is the key to what makes TK's coil work.

UPDATE:

The ferrite ring did not work.   I am still looking for these videos to check if I missed something...
UPDATE:

Didi not find these videos but found this related experiment on Naudin's site. There is definitely something there:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE01en.htm
(http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE01en.htm)

m:o)
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Matt Watts on February 22nd, 2013, 11:38 PM
Quote from tika on February 22nd, 2013, 11:25 PM
Didi not find these videos but found this related experiment on Naudin's site. There is definitely something there:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE01en.htm(http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE01en.htm)
Studying it now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3pBBrMq0s

Taking things a step further, I also recommend his work on the BiTT transformer which logically is quite appealing--a transformer where loading the output shows no additional load to the input.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE03en.htm
Title: Ferrite rings
Post by: tika on February 22nd, 2013, 11:41 PM
There is also this item on ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261150499750

Best price I've seen so far.

m:o)
Another eBay source for ferrite rings

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261150499750

m:o)
Title: Dan: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: securesupplies on February 25th, 2013, 07:34 AM
HI

PLease,

 keep posting
Step by step how to build,
and parts sources for these,
and spec of preferred items

this will help all of us understand it fast,

and assist re builders get started immediate basis.

This raises common knowledge faster.

We can than assist expanding it with more sources and
build tech

For all

Dan
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on March 15th, 2013, 01:50 PM
Follow Link.....
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Kapagen(http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Kapagen)



Pretty impressive video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CuNGFnzTeJI
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Matt Watts on March 15th, 2013, 02:01 PM
Sterling mentioned he was going to speak with the guy in France about his setup.  Check the Mar 14 Smart Scarecrow show for details.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: freethisone on March 15th, 2013, 07:12 PM
its interesting but this should be a simple devise. it looks like the teals one wire, no wire motor.
but there is capacity in the conductor being used.

he has a 3 core  setup in there.

has any one saw the telsa motor? it works on ac current. so i suspect thats how it works.
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on March 16th, 2013, 09:21 AM
This is just incredible. I always had a good feeling about this device!

See how similar these devices are!
This is the video from my first post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rbkvXoDfk7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CuNGFnzTeJI


http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Kapagen(http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Kapagen)
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on March 16th, 2013, 11:40 AM
Quote from Dog-One on March 15th, 2013, 02:01 PM
Sterling mentioned he was going to speak with the guy in France about his setup.  Check the Mar 14 Smart Scarecrow show for details.
Thanks, @11min  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r54CrvEapWg#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r54CrvEapWg#!(https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r54CrvEapWg#!)
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: KevinW_EnhancedLiving on March 23rd, 2013, 12:20 PM
KUNEL PATENT: (DE3024814)

http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf(http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf)
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Milbor on March 23rd, 2013, 07:55 PM
Hello Guys,

I am a new member on your board, and I am very interesting in your topic.  I several times heard the description of the Russian guy who demonstrated the work of Kapanadze generator (?) and compared his description with a schematic that was presented as Kapanadze circuits.   The guy told us that his generator may be started with the initial 20 V voltage and 1 A current.  For that, only 1 capacitance 4700 uF should be charged up to 20 V (according the Kapanadze scheme).  The time of this charging might be 1-2 sec because output impedance of the source is low. After that the current should drop to zero. However, his source showed 1A current for long period even if he pushed thre start knob.  Factually, the presented scheme is simple and should work perfect with an external source of power (if all elements of the HV transformer make correctly, the efficiency might be 80-95%).  The problem is only with self-feeding.  It looks that there is some inconsistence between the video and scheme (something wrong with feedback?).  
Title: RE: Difficult at best
Post by: overunitt on June 13th, 2013, 01:57 AM
Quote from KevinW_EnhancedLiving on March 12th, 2012, 12:08 PM
Quote from pha3z on March 9th, 2012, 08:56 AM
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on February 29th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/(http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)

The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
Jean-Louis Naudin Kapanadze generator is not really a working replication.  Its a failure because its not even OU and he shows it in his own numbers.

The only guys I've seen that actually seem to have merit with Kapanadze and Don Smith replications are the Lithunia and Russian folks.  Particularly the work of Dynatron and Destine2012.  Dynatron actually has a complete explanation of how he has come to understand electricity as two flows of positive and negative type particles moving toward one another.  The current principle of electron flow as the only part of electricity does not hold up to scrutiny.  Aetheric or ionic particles within circuit make up the positive component.

WARNING TO ALL:  I have studied these devices pretty intensely and done much Tesla experimenting.  These devices ARE EXTREMELY Complex in terms of Theoretical Behavior.  Do NOT bother to try replicating these devices unless you plan to be extremely judicious in your experimenting and studying of fundamental behavior.  These devices operate on principles which have been completely suppressed in Electrical Engineering.  A fundamental understanding of Transient Waves and other Transient phenomena is extremely helpful.  If you find wave theory and the concept of transient dielectric fields to be confusing, I would not even bother with these devices.  Phenomena include electron pumping, charge funneling, transient capacitor discharges, aetheric disturbance, and standing waves which are almost impossible to monitor correctly with an oscilloscope.  Your oscilloscope and traditional methods will even send you down the wrong path.


I was going to post links to the best material on the net on this information.  But the forum keeps telling me it detects it as a spam message.  Seriously messed up.

Here is ONE link.  We'll see if it lets me include this one:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/

The above energetic forum link for Dynatron goes to a 3 part English Translation of Dynatrons explanation of how Donald Smith device works.  I highly suggest reading this even if you're working on Kapanadze device.  This explanation gets to the heart of some of the hidden truths about what electricity really is.

Here are Dynatron's videos as well.  If anyone can translate Russian, please translate the chalkboard lecture videos.  They are outstanding.  He goes through every single aspect of the working circuit part-by-part.  The only thing I can glean from it by watching is that you'll notice he does some wave drawings.  He shows a sin wave next to a sharp discharge wave.  He understands what's going on with the transient circuit states.  He's talking about the right stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/user/destine2012/videos

Lithuania Team personally met with Tariel Kapanadze before his death.  They claim to have replicated his device:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/lithuania_experiment/

I will add one more thing:

If you don't know what an LMD wave is, you may never get these devices to be OU.  There is much speculation that these devices possibly working on LMD scalar waves as demonstrated by Konstatin Meyl in his live experiment demo showing Hertzian vs Scalar transmission.  You can NOT see the scalar wave on scope.  If you tune to frequencies to generate Hertzian frequencies, you may never get the device to operate correctly.
Whoa, nice one pha3z!! Sounds like some wise words of truth, give us plenty more to consider now. Thank you for the clarifications many of us needed.

Can you please try to re-post those links or msg them to me so I can try to get them posted?

Where do I go within the Dynoytron link to find the 3 part English Translation?
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/(http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/)
the link for dynatron explanation:
http://tarielkapanadze.ru/practice-eng.htm

Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Roll on June 25th, 2013, 02:39 PM
hay !
does anybody know difference about coil in kapanadze ?? On youtube you can see 2 or 3 way to built coil in kapanadze system!
so, can you guys explain coil in my link and coil with ferry magnets and open copper coil wrapped around the tube, how you can see on some video up on someone posts???


http://www.flickr.com/photos/46534385@N03/8528654283/in/set-72157632918473710/
Title: RE: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: Alex_toshev on January 16th, 2014, 12:09 AM
Hello all,

here is some info in russian :) If anyone can translate it
http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-2
Title: Re: Kapanadze Generator
Post by: germeten on April 21st, 2014, 10:46 PM
I think many of you are making something very simple, difficult, because you don't understand the basic principle and are trying to copy circuits without grasping what you want to accomplish. All the Kapanadze circuit does is cause resonance in multiple stages, initiated by spark gaps. The nature of spark gaps is they contain ALL frequencies, hence a tank can find it's favored frequency without any skill at tuning on the part of the operator. Resonant tanks demonstrate gains of 10x to 1,000x depending upon the Q (Quality) of the circuit, which hinges on Resistance. One resonant tank feeding another will increase gains by orders of magnitude and the capacity of components to handle those values. The weakness of resonant tanks is they need to be tuned to fixed loads, as varying loads knock them out of tune thereby losing the gains (but we really only need to worry about loads at the final output.)  Another point: ideally we would want to tap power from a resonant tank without loading the tank or spoiling the resonant conditions. Don Smith shared ways to do this, but there are others. Note just because these methods are simple doesn't mean they're not dangerous or that you don't need to be extremely careful around high voltages, frequencies and/or currents.