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Off Topic => Off Topic => Topic started by: Jeff Nading on May 22nd, 2012, 02:44 PM
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This is neat guy's. Check it out.:cool::D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs&feature=related
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This is used in the track system of high-speed lev trains. Aluminum instead of copper, and electromagnets instead of neos.
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This is used in the track system of high-speed lev trains. Aluminum instead of copper, and electromagnets instead of neos.
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interesting, dØ/dt - possibly this works because the parameters are about right, enough flux, enough weight.
Here's the question, where is the reaction force coming from? OK it's magnetism but where is THAT coming from? :huh:
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Cool :D
interesting, dØ/dt - possibly this works because the parameters are about right, enough flux, enough weight.
Here's the question, where is the reaction force coming from? OK it's magnetism but where is THAT coming from? :huh:
generates an electromagnetic field, which to it's nature counteracts the permanent
magnetic field from the magnet, hence the braking action of the falling magnet.
Looks really cool :D
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eddy currents...
its why we cant find a good way to generate power with out drag on a system...
you want to see something neat... check this out 45tesla Magnet...
watch the hole thing but look at 6 min in... takes a 2Kg aluminum chunk 2.5min to fall 12 feet... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGytW_C6hR8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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eddy currents...
its why we cant find a good way to generate power with out drag on a system...
you want to see something neat... check this out 45tesla Magnet...
watch the hole thing but look at 6 min in... takes a 2Kg aluminum chunk 2.5min to fall 12 feet... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGytW_C6hR8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
here is a good way to make power. Use a steam motor, and connect it to a teals cd tubing. use the steam as the driver.
of course a fennel lens to power the steam by solar means
80psi should work fine?
good work on all the hard work.. cheers.:D:cool:
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY :cool:
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This is neat guy's. Check it out.:cool::D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs&feature=related
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This is neat guy's. Check it out.:cool::D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs&feature=related
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Hi All,
In nijmegen, holland they did research with magnetic fields
http://youtu.be/cEC9G8JUKW8
here they float a strawberry, they also did pieces of pizza and a frog (did no harm)
they locked in the frequency to water to levitate these items
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Hi All,
In nijmegen, holland they did research with magnetic fields
http://youtu.be/cEC9G8JUKW8
here they float a strawberry, they also did pieces of pizza and a frog (did no harm)
they locked in the frequency to water to levitate these items
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY :cool:
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY :cool:
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Looks real to me. Anyone else wanna take a guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ
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Looks real to me. Anyone else wanna take a guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ
Also, what happens if the magnet were to be bolted to the board, would the wheel then start spinning if you put the ball next to it?
I guess the only (?) way to find out would be to actually build the thing yourself.
Having been building various perm magnet devices of sort in the past I would choose to make a plastic wheel, just to avoid the risk
of magnetizing the whole wheel, with all the probs that follows with that.
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Looks real to me. Anyone else wanna take a guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ
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This is neat guy's. Check it out.:cool::D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs&feature=related
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This is neat guy's. Check it out.:cool::D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs&feature=related
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http://youtu.be/8N2TS3VReTAhttp://youtu.be/8N2TS3VReTAhttp://youtu.be/8N2TS3VReTA
This is neat guy's. Check it out.:cool::D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs&feature=related
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Is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yPdQ6SOIg&feature=player_embedded
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This is neat guy's. Check it out.:cool::D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs&feature=related
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Yes that's the same video.:D
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Is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yPdQ6SOIg&feature=player_embedded
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Yes that's the same video.:D
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Yes that's the same video.:D
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As we only see a few revs here I'm a tad suspicious as to why they're not showing like 10 mins of spinning or so..........?
Also, what happens if the magnet were to be bolted to the board, would the wheel then start spinning if you put the ball next to it?
I guess the only (?) way to find out would be to actually build the thing yourself.
Having been building various perm magnet devices of sort in the past I would choose to make a plastic wheel, just to avoid the risk
of magnetizing the whole wheel, with all the probs that follows with that.
Attached is a little teaser image.
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As we only see a few revs here............
Attached is a little teaser image.
Make sure that the track for the ball has some friction to it so the ball don't just
slide it's way up to the magnet.
Make that sucker spin the wheel around, prefeably 24/7 :D
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Yes that's the same video.:D
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As we only see a few revs here I'm a tad suspicious as to why they're not showing like 10 mins of spinning or so..........?
Also, what happens if the magnet were to be bolted to the board, would the wheel then start spinning if you put the ball next to it?
I guess the only (?) way to find out would be to actually build the thing yourself.
Having been building various perm magnet devices of sort in the past I would choose to make a plastic wheel, just to avoid the risk
of magnetizing the whole wheel, with all the probs that follows with that.
Attached is a little teaser image.
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i believe these magnet systems will work. But they are not overunity. They use up the stored magnetic force in the magnets. By using magnets to work they die of earlier. Still it will run for a very long time, but it uses the energy stored in the magnets.
This next video shows also a nice setup for a permanent magnet motor.
http://youtu.be/oJv58SXx2V8
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That's awesome Dog-one really cool .:cool::D:P
BTW, the wheel in the background is what you will end up with if you don't use a top notch CAM program--busted bits, cut fingers and broken crappy parts.
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Looks good so far dog-one:D:cool:, I like it.
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Looks real to me. Anyone else wanna take a guess?
Also, what happens if the magnet were to be bolted to the board, would the wheel then start spinning if you put the ball next to it?
I guess the only (?) way to find out would be to actually build the thing yourself.
Having been building various perm magnet devices of sort in the past I would choose to make a plastic wheel, just to avoid the risk
of magnetizing the whole wheel, with all the probs that follows with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHDFxm7ZU4Q
Something tells me the guy is handsomely paid for making these videos.
Oh well, I have a nice CNC setup to make all sorts of parts if someone comes up with an idea I can make from plastic.
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That's awesome Dog-one really cool .:cool::D:P
BTW, the wheel in the background is what you will end up with if you don't use a top notch CAM program--busted bits, cut fingers and broken crappy parts.
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Same old if it looks to good to be true then.
Too bad.
How far away are you from reshaping it into the V-shaped magnet wheel thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbp8N_otHI
This one looks more promising as it accelerates.
But then who knows, maybe all these vids are paid for by the permanent magnet industry.
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Same old if it looks to good to be true then.
Too bad.
How far away are you from reshaping it into the V-shaped magnet wheel thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbp8N_otHI
This one looks more promising as it accelerates.
But then who knows, maybe all these vids are paid for by the permanent magnet industry.
Its more a question of build, used materials. The plastic has more friction on the ball then the alluminum of the example. The iron ball in the example is shiny, the one here is dim coated, giving more friction?
There is no reason why this can't work..as long as the attraction is big enough to rotate the wheel.
We don't trust the normal science laws any more when spending time in the overunity field?
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY :cool:
Monopool is non existing. He flips the magnets.
He must have a battery in the wood, between the 2 nails, reading 2,5 volt
Also because otherwise there would be no circuit for the spinning coil to work.
The force of the magnet gives an induction, but induction can only work in a closed circuit.
Its a simple motor with the principles of a electric motor.
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Same old if it looks to good to be true then.
Too bad.
How far away are you from reshaping it into the V-shaped magnet wheel thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbp8N_otHI
This one looks more promising as it accelerates.
But then who knows, maybe all these vids are paid for by the permanent magnet industry.
If I can convince Jeff to assist me in converting my CNC mill to a 3D printer, I may just see if I can make one of those goofy mag wheels and give that a whirl. I do recall someone on Utube working endlessly to find a decent gating mechanism for one of those, but he kept running into problems where he would strip off so much momentum from the rotating wheel that he just couldn't keep it running. Magnets are strange animals as I learned again from this last experiment--they seem to grab onto things in a way contrary to what one would think. I wouldn't be a bit surprised with the v-mag wheel the pull force required to lift the gate magnet exceeds the force generated by a single rotation of the wheel. Almost sounds like that "conservation of energy" stuff we keep beating ourselves up with. hehe. :D
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Looks real to me. Anyone else wanna take a guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ
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Its more a question of build, used materials. The plastic has more friction on the ball then the alluminum of the example. The iron ball in the example is shiny, the one here is dim coated, giving more friction?
There is no reason why this can't work..as long as the attraction is big enough to rotate the wheel.
We don't trust the normal science laws any more when spending time in the overunity field?
One other thing, do keep in mind the other video(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHDFxm7ZU4Q) I posted that was from the same guy at Visual Education Project. Visual Education Project(http://veproject1.org/), that should be a key and is far different from their supposed mission statement. If I had this scenario on an exam, my first thought would be:
Question: These guys create videos, what's wrong with this picture?
Answer: The thing doesn't actually work in real life.
Follow-up Question: How was the video created to make it look like it works?
(http://veproject1.org/veplogo.gif)
Visual Education, that's what they are really teaching. I should have done my homework before I built the device, not after.
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I think the way you milled the space for the ball, has to much contactsurface.
The original has 2 thin aluminum rails.
In Dog's one it looks more like (O) so the contactsurface between ball and plastic is much bigger.
Simple way to test this is to put the ball in the wheel and rotate the wheel like the person does in the original. Then see how far the ball travels in hight. On the original it stays in between the bottom 4 inches, so maybe less then plus and minus 22 degrees.
If your project has more friction, then your ball will travel along higher.
This is easy to check.
If you find more friction there, then you have to change the form of the running slope.
......|.....O.....|.....
.......\.../..\.../......
more like into this way, minimizing the contact surface. And the best is to use a hard material of course.
It think it has to be easy for the ball to slide and use a little friction to rotate the wheel when traveling back to the magnet.
Succes,
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I think the way you milled the space for the ball, has to much contactsurface.
The original has 2 thin aluminum rails.
In Dog's one it looks more like (O) so the contactsurface between ball and plastic is much bigger.
Simple way to test this is to put the ball in the wheel and rotate the wheel like the person does in the original. Then see how far the ball travels in hight. On the original it stays in between the bottom 4 inches, so maybe less then plus and minus 22 degrees.
If your project has more friction, then your ball will travel along higher.
This is easy to check.
If you find more friction there, then you have to change the form of the running slope.
......|.....O.....|.....
.......\.../..\.../......
more like into this way, minimizing the contact surface. And the best is to use a hard material of course.
It think it has to be easy for the ball to slide and use a little friction to rotate the wheel when traveling back to the magnet.
Succes,
My replication is slightly different than the wheel in the video in that once the ball is placed in my wheel and assembled, you cannot get the ball back out--this was by design. The surface contact of the ball against the wheel is identical.
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I think the way you milled the space for the ball, has to much contactsurface.
The original has 2 thin aluminum rails.
In Dog's one it looks more like (O) so the contactsurface between ball and plastic is much bigger.
Simple way to test this is to put the ball in the wheel and rotate the wheel like the person does in the original. Then see how far the ball travels in hight. On the original it stays in between the bottom 4 inches, so maybe less then plus and minus 22 degrees.
If your project has more friction, then your ball will travel along higher.
This is easy to check.
If you find more friction there, then you have to change the form of the running slope.
......|.....O.....|.....
.......\.../..\.../......
more like into this way, minimizing the contact surface. And the best is to use a hard material of course.
It think it has to be easy for the ball to slide and use a little friction to rotate the wheel when traveling back to the magnet.
Succes,
My replication is slightly different than the wheel in the video in that once the ball is placed in my wheel and assembled, you cannot get the ball back out--this was by design. The surface contact of the ball against the wheel is identical.
Maybe what you say as..the ball is incapsuled by the magnet..maybe the ball of the original is bigger and does not get captured by the magnetic lines?
Otherwise..i don't know..and still i think this original setup must be a workable thing.
Maybe it has to do with that aluminum reacts weird to magnetisme..don't see how that could influence things but that was the last squeezed out thought..;)
P.s. After the last thought..how about finding the videomaker and mailing him..let him check this thread and give input?
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Ok, if your ball has the same friction..and your wheel is turning effortlessly..then i also have no idea anymore what is keeping it from working.
Maybe what you say as..the ball is incapsuled by the magnet..maybe the ball of the original is bigger and does not get captured by the magnetic lines?
Otherwise..i don't know..and still i think this original setup must be a workable thing.
Maybe it has to do with that aluminum reacts weird to magnetisme..don't see how that could influence things but that was the last squeezed out thought..;)
P.s. After the last thought..how about finding the videomaker and mailing him..let him check this thread and give input?
Tell you what, just get you a small plastic or glass jar, put a steel ball in it and drag it around with a magnet. Tell me if you don't recognize that "feel" where the magnet either has a hold of the ball or it doesn't. And when it has a hold of the ball, notice how the ball "feels" almost like its position is locked in space. I can't really describe it well enough in writing, I just encourage you to try it and let it imprint in your mind what it is. This really has me baffled, especially the rolling part of it. It would seem like the ball would still roll just fine, but it doesn't. It's almost like the magnet focuses is force on one specific spot on the metal ball and holds it there. I don't have any vocabulary for what that phenomena is, but if you try my simple experiment, you will recognize it when you see it. It is this very effect that seems to clobber my machine from doing what one would think it is capable of.
P.S. If the maker of that video did "fake" the experiment, it would seem to me he would do it by putting a battery and pulsing circuit in that magnet base, then use an electromagnet with contacts on the bottom that look like a typical bar magnet. By pushing down the electromagnet, it begins pulsing. With pulsing, the off-time would allow the ball to roll and bobble as the video shows. Also, the frequency of the pulsing would in effect set a maximum speed the wheel would accelerate to. Think about it, if a permanent magnet pulled on the steel ball and the ball could still roll, the maximum speed of the wheel would only be limited by the friction in the device which could be quite high. In the video, the speed seemed to stabilize at a fairly low RPM, though the wheel bearings appeared to be pretty low friction. Just something to think about.
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P.S. If the maker of that video did "fake" the experiment, it would seem to me he would do it by putting a battery and pulsing circuit in that magnet base, then use an electromagnet with contacts on the bottom that look like a typical bar magnet. By pushing down the electromagnet, it begins pulsing. With pulsing, the off-time would allow the ball to roll and bobble as the video shows. Also, the frequency of the pulsing would in effect set a maximum speed the wheel would accelerate to. Think about it, if a permanent magnet pulled on the steel ball and the ball could still roll, the maximum speed of the wheel would only be limited by the friction in the device which could be quite high. In the video, the speed seemed to stabilize at a fairly low RPM, though the wheel bearings appeared to be pretty low friction. Just something to think about.
to the magnet.
The problem then would be to somehow make the magnet oscillate or pulsate.
What if you tried just that, using an electromagnet instead of the perm magnet,
one that which you continuously pulse?
At the "correct" frequency the ball would then start acting as planned and the
wheel would then subsequently start spinning.
Then you atleast know that it's a pulsing thing that's needed, which could be
hard to utilize without some form of electric circuit.
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I'm certainly not trying to clobber your enthusiasm--wish I could keep my own up on this project because at a distance it really does seem workable.
Grumblll....
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I tried with 2 small magnets and a piece of paper, it was indicisive. I don't like the feeling that nothing is to be trusted anymore. If you do a hoax then tell people
Grumblll....
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I tried with 2 small magnets and a piece of paper, it was indicisive. I don't like the feeling that nothing is to be trusted anymore. If you do a hoax then tell people
Grumblll....
http://youtu.be/yoCBORXzOqU i can't find the hoax
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http://youtu.be/f0fwjY6_-1M from the same uploader...
http://youtu.be/sl6Zc4M7aYQ someone found the hoax
Resisting the temptation to rebuild...its a shame to put it out as serious, next they use computergraphics to trick us in making the false stuff??
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Resisting the temptation to rebuild...its a shame to put it out as serious, next they use computergraphics to trick us in making the false stuff??
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Resisting the temptation to rebuild...its a shame to put it out as serious, next they use computergraphics to trick us in making the false stuff??
I`ll see what I can find out maybe your magnet was to strong? I didn`t use a neodyminum. My grandfather would take a stick 10'' long and cut notches in a row and whittle a propeller and mount it on the stick with a small pin . Took another stick and rubbed the notches on the stick with the propeller , the propeller would spin. You had to do it just right to get a good spin. My point is just a novelty but fun for us kids
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fgunsmoke here.--I tried putting one together with two lids-7 inch plus 1/2inch ball bearing and got lucky--it did run -not long but just like the video. Then my tape let go and the bearing fell out. I never put it back together. It had proved its self to me.
I`ll see what I can find out maybe your magnet was to strong? I didn`t use a neodyminum. My grandfather would take a stick 10'' long and cut notches in a row and whittle a propeller and mount it on the stick with a small pin . Took another stick and rubbed the notches on the stick with the propeller , the propeller would spin. You had to do it just right to get a good spin. My point is just a novelty but fun for us kids
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fgunsmoke here.--I tried putting one together with two lids-7 inch plus 1/2inch ball bearing and got lucky--it did run -not long but just like the video. Then my tape let go and the bearing fell out. I never put it back together. It had proved its self to me.
I`ll see what I can find out maybe your magnet was to strong? I didn`t use a neodyminum. My grandfather would take a stick 10'' long and cut notches in a row and whittle a propeller and mount it on the stick with a small pin . Took another stick and rubbed the notches on the stick with the propeller , the propeller would spin. You had to do it just right to get a good spin. My point is just a novelty but fun for us kids
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fgunsmoke here.--I tried putting one together with two lids-7 inch plus 1/2inch ball bearing and got lucky--it did run -not long but just like the video. Then my tape let go and the bearing fell out. I never put it back together. It had proved its self to me.
I`ll see what I can find out maybe your magnet was to strong? I didn`t use a neodyminum. My grandfather would take a stick 10'' long and cut notches in a row and whittle a propeller and mount it on the stick with a small pin . Took another stick and rubbed the notches on the stick with the propeller , the propeller would spin. You had to do it just right to get a good spin. My point is just a novelty but fun for us kids
Hmm am trying to figure what more it told me recently...
Nehh... all about food... thxgiving is bad for science?... ;)
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fgunsmoke here.--I tried putting one together with two lids-7 inch plus 1/2inch ball bearing and got lucky--it did run -not long but just like the video. Then my tape let go and the bearing fell out. I never put it back together. It had proved its self to me.
I`ll see what I can find out maybe your magnet was to strong? I didn`t use a neodyminum. My grandfather would take a stick 10'' long and cut notches in a row and whittle a propeller and mount it on the stick with a small pin . Took another stick and rubbed the notches on the stick with the propeller , the propeller would spin. You had to do it just right to get a good spin. My point is just a novelty but fun for us kids
Hmm am trying to figure what more it told me recently...
Nehh... all about food... thxgiving is bad for science?... ;)
I threw the lids away after it fell apart. I didn`t think it was going to run because of the smaller size but it did for a few turns . I didn`t know other people didn`t belive
in this machine at the time. I know now. GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE IN (-Perpetual Wheel/1923) or( mechanical appliances and novelties of construction). My thing now is getting water to burn again for me like it did when I was not trying. Winter is coming and heating bills are high. I know water will burn cause I had to put it out. If you want to know more about burning water let me know.
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If you want to know more about burning water let me know.
Thanks.
fgunsmoke -- I built the perpetual wheel after I saw it on you-tube.
I threw the lids away after it fell apart. I didn`t think it was going to run because of the smaller size but it did for a few turns . I didn`t know other people didn`t belive
in this machine at the time. I know now. GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE IN (-Perpetual Wheel/1923) or( mechanical appliances and novelties of construction).
Could you please provide a link instead?
Thanks.
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If you want to know more about burning water let me know.
Thanks.
fgunsmoke -- I built the perpetual wheel after I saw it on you-tube.
I threw the lids away after it fell apart. I didn`t think it was going to run because of the smaller size but it did for a few turns . I didn`t know other people didn`t belive
in this machine at the time. I know now. GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE IN (-Perpetual Wheel/1923) or( mechanical appliances and novelties of construction).
Could you please provide a link instead?
Thanks.
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So we know that heat and a high voltage spark will do this, hence the need for the plasma spark plug.:cool::D:P
Don't know how you all feel about "Future Viewing", but I listened to a program last night with Clif High of Half Past Human(http://www.halfpasthuman.com/) and it would appear we may be running out of time. If he is at all accurate in his predictions, people need to get their priorities in order ricky tick. OpenSource Energy needs to show some serious progress very soon--I'm talking stuff we can use to survive with. Clif also mentioned it would be a good idea to find high ground as well.
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So we know that heat and a high voltage spark will do this, hence the need for the plasma spark plug.:cool::D:P
Don't know how you all feel about "Future Viewing", but I listened to a program last night with Clif High of Half Past Human(http://www.halfpasthuman.com/) and it would appear we may be running out of time. If he is at all accurate in his predictions, people need to get their priorities in order ricky tick. OpenSource Energy needs to show some serious progress very soon--I'm talking stuff we can use to survive with. Clif also mentioned it would be a good idea to find high ground as well.
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=784&pid=9028#pid9028
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So we know that heat and a high voltage spark will do this, hence the need for the plasma spark plug.:cool::D:P
Don't know how you all feel about "Future Viewing", but I listened to a program last night with Clif High of Half Past Human(http://www.halfpasthuman.com/) and it would appear we may be running out of time. If he is at all accurate in his predictions, people need to get their priorities in order ricky tick. OpenSource Energy needs to show some serious progress very soon--I'm talking stuff we can use to survive with. Clif also mentioned it would be a good idea to find high ground as well.
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If you want to know more about burning water let me know.
Thanks.
fgunsmoke -- I built the perpetual wheel after I saw it on you-tube.
I threw the lids away after it fell apart. I didn`t think it was going to run because of the smaller size but it did for a few turns . I didn`t know other people didn`t belive
in this machine at the time. I know now. GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE IN (-Perpetual Wheel/1923) or( mechanical appliances and novelties of construction).
Could you please provide a link instead?
Thanks.
I`ve tried to repeat this and get fire with out the bang but no go. Wife does not like the bangs and getting to cold outside. I use the hho maker to fill balloon for small torch or to send a balloon up or to make bangs with pipe cannon.
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Throwing water on burning magnesium:
http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
Ye' old gunpowder cracker...(stays funny)
http://youtu.be/M0fXtEkclq8
Burning tapwater (gas in it)
http://youtu.be/7Zdx0YrzHVk
Burning all tapwater, invention?
http://youtu.be/I0lhWaBAVFQ
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Throwing water on burning magnesium:
http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
Ye' old gunpowder cracker...(stays funny)
http://youtu.be/M0fXtEkclq8
Burning tapwater (gas in it)
http://youtu.be/7Zdx0YrzHVk
Burning all tapwater, invention?
http://youtu.be/I0lhWaBAVFQ
old gunpowder cracker was one of the best. Every time I watch that I think to my self -go easy on the powder. Maybe I`ll put some powder of magnesium on top of water and light it to get the water to burn.
To get back to a Neodymium magnet - question--I`ve got a neodymium stuck to a over head cold air duct-and a 1lb .9oz. brass billit hanging by a string attach to the magnet. question --is it doing work? --if it is doing work- what kind of energy is doing it? - -is it perptual or what? the over head duct is tin.
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Ok, if your ball has the same friction..and your wheel is turning effortlessly..then i also have no idea anymore what is keeping it from working.
Maybe what you say as..the ball is incapsuled by the magnet..maybe the ball of the original is bigger and does not get captured by the magnetic lines?
Otherwise..i don't know..and still i think this original setup must be a workable thing.
Maybe it has to do with that aluminum reacts weird to magnetisme..don't see how that could influence things but that was the last squeezed out thought..;)
P.s. After the last thought..how about finding the videomaker and mailing him..let him check this thread and give input?
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I'm certainly not trying to clobber your enthusiasm--wish I could keep my own up on this project because at a distance it really does seem workable.
Tell you what, just get you a small plastic or glass jar, put a steel ball in it and drag it around with a magnet. Tell me if you don't recognize that "feel" where the magnet either has a hold of the ball or it doesn't. And when it has a hold of the ball, notice how the ball "feels" almost like its position is locked in space. I can't really describe it well enough in writing, I just encourage you to try it and let it imprint in your mind what it is. This really has me baffled, especially the rolling part of it. It would seem like the ball would still roll just fine, but it doesn't. It's almost like the magnet focuses is force on one specific spot on the metal ball and holds it there. I don't have any vocabulary for what that phenomena is, but if you try my simple experiment, you will recognize it when you see it. It is this very effect that seems to clobber my machine from doing what one would think it is capable of.
P.S. If the maker of that video did "fake" the experiment, it would seem to me he would do it by putting a battery and pulsing circuit in that magnet base, then use an electromagnet with contacts on the bottom that look like a typical bar magnet. By pushing down the electromagnet, it begins pulsing. With pulsing, the off-time would allow the ball to roll and bobble as the video shows. Also, the frequency of the pulsing would in effect set a maximum speed the wheel would accelerate to. Think about it, if a permanent magnet pulled on the steel ball and the ball could still roll, the maximum speed of the wheel would only be limited by the friction in the device which could be quite high. In the video, the speed seemed to stabilize at a fairly low RPM, though the wheel bearings appeared to be pretty low friction. Just something to think about.
get any pulsing. I was using a plastic lid just like the lids when the lids turned like a wheel. I`m at a lost as to what else to try. I`m not sure about which magnet I was using when it turned and I was holding the magnet in my hand.
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Throwing water on burning magnesium:
http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
Ye' old gunpowder cracker...(stays funny)
http://youtu.be/M0fXtEkclq8
Burning tapwater (gas in it)
http://youtu.be/7Zdx0YrzHVk
Burning all tapwater, invention?
http://youtu.be/I0lhWaBAVFQ
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http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
That's what I'm talking about, see how the water causes an explosion, there is much power there.
So Jeff, how did we get talking about this? Seems a pretty good stretch from Neodymium magnets. :P
fgunsmoke here. I have tried some test with a steel ball on a plastic incline couldn`t
get any pulsing. I was using a plastic lid just like the lids when the lids turned like a wheel. I`m at a lost as to what else to try. I`m not sure about which magnet I was using when it turned and I was holding the magnet in my hand.
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http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
That's what I'm talking about, see how the water causes an explosion, there is much power there.
So Jeff, how did we get talking about this? Seems a pretty good stretch from Neodymium magnets. :P
fgunsmoke here. I have tried some test with a steel ball on a plastic incline couldn`t
get any pulsing. I was using a plastic lid just like the lids when the lids turned like a wheel. I`m at a lost as to what else to try. I`m not sure about which magnet I was using when it turned and I was holding the magnet in my hand.
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Throwing water on burning magnesium:
http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
Ye' old gunpowder cracker...(stays funny)
http://youtu.be/M0fXtEkclq8
Burning tapwater (gas in it)
http://youtu.be/7Zdx0YrzHVk
Burning all tapwater, invention?
http://youtu.be/I0lhWaBAVFQ
Would be nice to do a build-off with perpetual moving devices. No electricity?, just magnets or gravity etc?
Whatever device turns the longest wins. (initial start not more then 1 joule?)
First prize 10 reputation points?
Closing date of entry; end of januari 2013?
lol
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http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
That's what I'm talking about, see how the water causes an explosion, there is much power there.
So Jeff, how did we get talking about this? Seems a pretty good stretch from Neodymium magnets. :P
fgunsmoke here. I have tried some test with a steel ball on a plastic incline couldn`t
get any pulsing. I was using a plastic lid just like the lids when the lids turned like a wheel. I`m at a lost as to what else to try. I`m not sure about which magnet I was using when it turned and I was holding the magnet in my hand.
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Here's some more to make me and FaradayEZ crazy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sV_0xKX4II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LOeFXZAvNQ
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Here's some more to make me and FaradayEZ crazy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sV_0xKX4II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LOeFXZAvNQ
awhile back. the one I watched run they told how it worked. I forget what the heat source but I think hot water. I`ll go see if I can find the clip. see you later. fgunsmoke here. Couldn`t find the one that showed how it worked . The stirling engine -low temp difference will work- just the heat of your hand or a ice cube. Try Google - Stirling low temp difference engine.
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Here's some more to make me and FaradayEZ crazy:
awhile back. the one I watched run they told how it worked. I forget what the heat source but I think hot water. I`ll go see if I can find the clip. see you later. fgunsmoke here. Couldn`t find the one that showed how it worked . The stirling engine -low temp difference will work- just the heat of your hand or a ice cube. Try Google - Stirling low temp difference engine.
(i also like the puffpuff engine..:)
Nahh its the permanent magnet rotation stuff that creeps me.. think its time we can undermine fgunsmoke's stability..lol.
As he is now the only one claiming it worked...for 4 strokes...maybe the ball got caught on a sticky tape he used every 3 inches...or was he drinking that night and saw more things spin around?
Hmm...well...not?
(only for Dog-one..: pssstt...lets tickle him a little so he reproduces it working..)
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I've seen these really simple basic Stirling engines before, I have no doubt that they
work as advertised.
The Sterling cycle is well known, proven to work, so it's very doable.
All you need is a difference in temperature and the engine will work it's magic :cool:
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I've seen these really simple basic Stirling engines before, I have no doubt that they
work as advertised.
The Sterling cycle is well known, proven to work, so it's very doable.
All you need is a difference in temperature and the engine will work it's magic :cool:
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Throwing water on burning magnesium:
http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
Ye' old gunpowder cracker...(stays funny)
http://youtu.be/M0fXtEkclq8
Burning tapwater (gas in it)
http://youtu.be/7Zdx0YrzHVk
Burning all tapwater, invention?
http://youtu.be/I0lhWaBAVFQ
Would be nice to do a build-off with perpetual moving devices. No electricity?, just magnets or gravity etc?
Whatever device turns the longest wins. (initial start not more then 1 joule?)
First prize 10 reputation points?
Closing date of entry; end of januari 2013?
lol
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I thought a magnet was a perpetual engine. It will work for you - the magnetic lines do move in a closed loop - will lock onto metal that has iron in it--just like it does in the earth and we call it Gravity--that magnet will out live any of us.-The magnet or gravity lines move on the out side of the magnet but we just do not see them. pick up a 2lb weight and hold it straight out to your side who is doing the most work . You or gravity? -we know who is going to win. Can I enter my magnet as my entry? -I`ll even take a picture of it working if I can pry the durn thing off my frig. Just a thought-have fun Fgunsmoke
Pure Energy Systems Wiki Top 5(http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Template:Top_5_Exotic)
BTW, ol' Keshe defines attraction force as gravity and repulsion force as magnetism. I wonder if those really are proper terms for what we just commonly call magnetism. Maybe we are just mixing things up not paying attention to the differences. For all I know we have been creating deformed Keshe reactors all along.
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It surely is frustrating trying to get those hard working magnets to light up light bulbs and run computers though. I have been looking at old Steorn videos and experiments all evening--seems like it would be a piece of cake to make one of those pulse motors over unity. Seriously, look at the top five list and tell me why we don't all have working prototypes:
Pure Energy Systems Wiki Top 5(http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Template:Top_5_Exotic)
BTW, ol' Keshe defines attraction force as gravity and repulsion force as magnetism. I wonder if those really are proper terms for what we just commonly call magnetism. Maybe we are just mixing things up not paying attention to the differences. For all I know we have been creating deformed Keshe reactors all along.
The Keshe gravity/magnetism thing is indeed interesting in that he talks about
the need of applying 2 (?) different magnetic forces of sort in order to first
cancel out the force from in this case Earth's gravity and then also to create an
on board electrogravitic (??) force so you don't have to equip your ship with a
lot of handles here and there to hang on to, you sort of create your own on
board ship gravitation force which makes things fall "down" if you drop them :D
Anyway the talk of the need of more than one electromagnetic/electrogravitic
force is to me kinda indicative of that he "knows" what it takes to create just
that (antigravity), why else talk about the need of 2 (or more) such
forces/generators? :cool:
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It surely is frustrating trying to get those hard working magnets to light up light bulbs and run computers though. I have been looking at old Steorn videos and experiments all evening--seems like it would be a piece of cake to make one of those pulse motors over unity. Seriously, look at the top five list and tell me why we don't all have working prototypes:
Pure Energy Systems Wiki Top 5(http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Template:Top_5_Exotic)
BTW, ol' Keshe defines attraction force as gravity and repulsion force as magnetism. I wonder if those really are proper terms for what we just commonly call magnetism. Maybe we are just mixing things up not paying attention to the differences. For all I know we have been creating deformed Keshe reactors all along.
The Keshe gravity/magnetism thing is indeed interesting in that he talks about
the need of applying 2 (?) different magnetic forces of sort in order to first
cancel out the force from in this case Earth's gravity and then also to create an
on board electrogravitic (??) force so you don't have to equip your ship with a
lot of handles here and there to hang on to, you sort of create your own on
board ship gravitation force which makes things fall "down" if you drop them :D
Anyway the talk of the need of more than one electromagnetic/electrogravitic
force is to me kinda indicative of that he "knows" what it takes to create just
that (antigravity), why else talk about the need of 2 (or more) such
forces/generators? :cool:
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Throwing water on burning magnesium:
http://youtu.be/1kVh4NQ7geg
Ye' old gunpowder cracker...(stays funny)
http://youtu.be/M0fXtEkclq8
Burning tapwater (gas in it)
http://youtu.be/7Zdx0YrzHVk
Burning all tapwater, invention?
http://youtu.be/I0lhWaBAVFQ
Would be nice to do a build-off with perpetual moving devices. No electricity?, just magnets or gravity etc?
Whatever device turns the longest wins. (initial start not more then 1 joule?)
First prize 10 reputation points?
Closing date of entry; end of januari 2013?
lol
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I've seen these really simple basic Stirling engines before, I have no doubt that they
work as advertised.
The Sterling cycle is well known, proven to work, so it's very doable.
All you need is a difference in temperature and the engine will work it's magic :cool:
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I've seen these really simple basic Stirling engines before, I have no doubt that they
work as advertised.
The Sterling cycle is well known, proven to work, so it's very doable.
All you need is a difference in temperature and the engine will work it's magic :cool:
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I've seen these really simple basic Stirling engines before, I have no doubt that they
work as advertised.
The Sterling cycle is well known, proven to work, so it's very doable.
All you need is a difference in temperature and the engine will work it's magic :cool:
doable promizing inventions/patents etc.
http://www.open-source-energy.org/?tid=784