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Open - Source - Research => Open-Source Research => Topic started by: securesupplies on March 7th, 2012, 12:05 PM
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This Thread is started to to bring together the overall engine management system knowledge and , options for after market ecu ,injector ignition off the shelf or custom system over lays.
I started with this one from Stan which I hope every here enjoys to
see again
Patent number: 5293857
attached
Note
Particular interest is the gas mixing chamber and ambient air
in to gas processor with gate (throttle body which is connected to ecu for
accelerator position) and figure 3
Several companies can offer pcs, omnitek is great one.
Other patents which help the common knowledge of ecm operation
with hydrogen injections on vehicles
US7316218
Dan
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This Thread is started to to bring together the overall engine management system knowledge and , options for after market ecu ,injector ignition off the shelf or custom system over lays.
I started with this one from Stan which I hope every here enjoys to
see again
Patent number: 5293857
attached
Note
Particular interest is the gas mixing chamber and ambient air
in to gas processor with gate (throttle body which is connected to ecu for
accelerator position) and figure 3
Several companies can offer pcs, omnitek is great one.
Other patents which help the common knowledge of ecm operation
with hydrogen injections on vehicles
US7316218
Dan
good post, and also i will add my thought here later, had done some research on this also... ~Russ
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This Thread is started to to bring together the overall engine management system knowledge and , options for after market ecu ,injector ignition off the shelf or custom system over lays.
I started with this one from Stan which I hope every here enjoys to
see again
Patent number: 5293857
attached
Note
Particular interest is the gas mixing chamber and ambient air
in to gas processor with gate (throttle body which is connected to ecu for
accelerator position) and figure 3
Several companies can offer pcs, omnitek is great one.
Other patents which help the common knowledge of ecm operation
with hydrogen injections on vehicles
US7316218
Dan
good post, and also i will add my thought here later, had done some research on this also... ~Russ
OK I HAVE A SMALL CACHE OF LPG GUYS STARTING
I WILL POINT THEM TO THIS THREAD
PLEASE DO SAME for poeple form installer industry
SO THEY DON"T MIX INFO for installing experiences and ideas
WITH PURE REBUILD INFORMATION IN OTHER THREAD LIKE INJECTOR ETC
HERE CAN BE MAP< ECU SOLENOID , bypass reprogramming
and AND TECH KNOW HOW FROM LPG ?CNG INSTALLERS ETC
Look forward to Opening it up for
development from this industry experiences to date alot has happen since 1985
Some kits on the market are amazingly simply to adjust in software and config.
not to mention well made and cost effective.
DANIEL
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FYI for comparing and adapting with YOUR current LPG KNowledge etc
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re post as relevant from tony another forum
Ok after thinking and looking at the locations of VEE and thinking about it from a cars electronics point of view, I've come up with what VEE is. VEE is a 12v supply voltage. If you know anything about a cars electronics, its the ignition switch. On a cars ignition switch you have ACC and then the "Start" position. ACC will turn on the circuit and all other electronic accessories. When the ignition is in the "Start" position this will energize the ignition coil and engage the starter. As far as VEE, when the cars ignition is in the "Start" position, this will turn on the VEE locations allowing the circuit to start producing hydrogen. This also acts as a safety feature so that for example is you have your cars ignition switched to ACC to listen to your radio, you want be producing hydrogen. Pretty simple explanation huh?
I think
Vdd 5v
Vcc 12v or 5v ?
Vee 12v
Yea VDD = 5V, VCC & VEE = 12v
Thanks - this helps clarify the voltage sources for the circuits greatly!
dan
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Check this out
Wolf
http://youtu.be/0zltqthkMFw
next below particulary 7.50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LZRZPAbRUU&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9ku6O1qvw&feature=relmfu
next particulary 4.28 staged injection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYRkeCm4NnA&feature=channel&list=UL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcuLhKe7cC8&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWAyWWnE3kM&feature=youtu.be
and compare to this
VMU Concept was solid and should be used
these guys got shut down. if they new current knowledge we would be golden.
one of the key obd interface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA72J_lN8MY&feature=channel&list=UL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHaPwk1sj2A&feature=channel&list=UL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-0CmHGi5xc&feature=channel&list=UL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIUNE87PCI&feature=channel&list=UL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIUNE87PCI&feature=autoplay&list=ULZHaPwk1sj2A&playnext=1
NOw the guys above used defaults and technics which are standard
they just basically reprogrammed using simialr tchnics and software which is
standard already.
What is important is the thinking here and how is is possible now to do this.
INfo you need to learn.
Suggest to save and keep these videos. and links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTCgUY51g0s&feature=channel&list=UL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sW2UUeRM-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyxNLrCMk3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNAhBHxX1S8&feature=relmfu
All the items
http://www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing.com/Products.htm
and now installers
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If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram
check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram
check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
RE
This
http://www.obdkey.com
Tremendous amount of information ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957TTByL0Ls&feature=player_embedded#!
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If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram
check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram
check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
RE
This
http://www.obdkey.com
Tremendous amount of information ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957TTByL0Ls&feature=player_embedded#!
RARE VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIYeEc02Sks&feature=player_embedded
If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram
check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram
check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
RE
This
http://www.obdkey.com
Tremendous amount of information ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957TTByL0Ls&feature=player_embedded#!
modern examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xTRKGP9N1PY#!
AEM Igniton control o2 mao and ignition controller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCeMaLC0Dqo&feature=related
http://www.aemelectronics.com/
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PLease add to this thread also see Alex VUM Rebuild
thread as a way to auto fine tune rather than manual like stan and stephen did
Dan
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Fuel injectors
adapt LPG GUys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAtDB2FCGYU&feature=watch_response
now a O2 sensor, small micro controller ( Arduino) and short program and you can control the air to fuel ratio.
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New
Version
of ECU and EMS
I have put together the fitting and plumbing
I have a manufacture for quenching tube it is a special mould process
from ptfe, so I am trying to match he solenoids to tube size at this time
to trail that part of it
Daniel
www.securesupplies.biz
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HI I am Making Massive Info Advances
I will start to post injection and Ecu training Advances
which are now available on my site
11 cell
vic
and Queching tube are key parts to getting Stan
tech for hydrogen on demand over the line!!!
please help complete it and get it into a file that can be cad machined or
reproduced asap.
rest will happen very fast as I start to post
See attached for sensor emulation.
Dan
www.securesuplies.biz
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Dear Member I have added alot of ECu info o my Website.
I have also added this video ref here suggest you watch it carefully and look the the educational info on my site in ecu ,aircraft and efi kit sections.
it simplifies the ems , to be off the 2013 shelf fuel injection
http://youtu.be/OXctY1K4wko
www.securesupplies.biz