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Open - Source - Research => Open-Source Ideas => Topic started by: Matt Watts on March 3rd, 2014, 12:06 PM
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Okay Bussi, this one is for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n22MNKrusA#ws
Make me proud. :)
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I could also do a video just like that, showing how some PCB with electronics miraculously lights up some lightbulbs when I attach a cable to it.
Why are there so (very) many clips like this about claiming it's free energy when you don't get to see the "other end" of the cable?
I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.
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Yes, too complicated. How about this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVTKRLWAo_c#ws
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you guys are ate up... ~Russ
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Yes, too complicated. How about this one?
Just the schematics missing then for a benchtest.
My take on this is that it taps in on the native frequency of the national grid (50/60 Hz) and steals a little energy from it.
Hey, nothing wrong with that, there's tons of energy going to waste under the grid lines anyway 24/7 to no use at all.
Remember the fluorescent lights?
(http://www.jugglingklines.com/images/encryption.jpg)
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you guys are ate up... ~Russ
As you'll see here, inventors have already decide to begin destroying free energy devices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCzZyB_UUMc#ws
We really missed the train Lynx.
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We really missed the train Lynx.
So he showed everything in great detail, kudos to him.
Too bad he missed that last cable though, could have provided vital clues as to how it worked.
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Hear that Lynx, there were two trains: One went North with the folks that already have free energy and the other went South with the folks that don't care any more and missed both of them. hehe
As you'll see here, inventors have already decide to begin destroying free energy devices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCzZyB_UUMc#ws
We really missed the train Lynx.
Hear that Lynx, there were two trains: One went North with the folks that already have free energy and the other went South with the folks that don't care any more and missed both of them. hehe
As you'll see here, inventors have already decide to begin destroying free energy devices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCzZyB_UUMc#ws
We really missed the train Lynx.
what if this vocal watchers community would jump in and replicate anything instead of striving for ongoing infotainment ... ?
seems to me like a teardown for competence of movers and shakers.
maybe we can now learn and witness something important about future history :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk#
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8#ws
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what if this vocal watchers community would jump in and replicate anything instead of striving for ongoing infotainment ... ?
Sometimes I think about a forum/site where it is a requirement as a member to have at least one project thread active at all times. You have to show up and you have to contribute or bye-bye. Not quite like school or work. More like a club where you value your membership and do your part to make a difference and not so much because you have to, but because you want to. A place where you will be surrounded with some really sharp minds of very capable people. And always you will learn as much as you teach.
Just a crazy thought and if I thought of it, I'm sure it is already being done somewhere.
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Yeah I got booted from one because I wasn't present enough :)
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Okay Bussi, this one is for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n22MNKrusA#ws
Make me proud. :)
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I can't help but look though. All the wires just makes my hair stand up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oW3wCElMOw#ws
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Who are these people?
They just have to be paid for by the fossile fuel industry, or the likes, to put out all kinds of bullsh!t clips like this just to divert attention from what you're experimenting with right now.
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So far, they seem to all be from Russia or the vicinity.
If I only knew for sure...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2uLBWqqzok#ws
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Here's one with schematics,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAjRxPaZTrs#ws
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Yes and this topic:
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=1784.0
Is the most fully complete one so far. It has PCB gerber files, parts list, schematic, drawings, pictures, the whole works. If you can't have any success with that, I'm not sure what it's going to take.
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If you can't have any success with that, I'm not sure what it's going to take.
If it works as advertised there, that is if it produces absolutely free energy with no strings attached whatsoever in the middle of the desert, then I'll consider looking a little bit more into it.
Until then I'll assume it's taking energy wirelessly from the domestic environment/national grid, which is in a way free energy I guess, albeit at the expense of your neighbour(s).
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A test of such a build in the middle of the Sarara desert maybe.....?
If it works as advertised there, that is if it produces absolutely free energy with no strings attached whatsoever in the middle of the desert, then I'll consider looking a little bit more into it.
Until then I'll assume it's taking energy wirelessly from the domestic environment/national grid, which is in a way free energy I guess, albeit at the expense of your neighbour(s).
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I think putting it into a faraday cage would be easier for a proof than to go to the desert.
I was merely expressing my doubt regarding the 'totally free energy without no strings attached whatsoever' concept that's being advocated in these clips.
I have little doubt as to that they can actually work by homing in on the domestic/national environment and wirelessly steal energy, after all that's what Tesla did more than a century ago, then Moray did the same thing, etc etc.
But sure, I guess a Faraday's cage could do just as well in simulating 'in the middle of absolutely nowhere' ;-)
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Yes and this topic:
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=1784.0
Is the most fully complete one so far. It has PCB gerber files, parts list, schematic, drawings, pictures, the whole works. If you can't have any success with that, I'm not sure what it's going to take.
I've read so many forums where a group of enthusiastic amateurs scurry around coming up with "improvements" and "variations" before even building one working unit, that it's becoming predictable as to the outcome: eventually the thread dies out without a report of anyone having succeeded. Even failure reports would be useful, at least they would eliminate that variation as unworkable.
The "Gabriel Device" is a classic example.
Has anyone ever seen a working Hendershot device? Well, 'nuff said.
As to testing in a desert, I live on a yacht and would be really happy to have something that works in the middle of the Tasman Sea.
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As to testing in a desert, I live on a yacht and would be really happy to have something that works in the middle of the Tasman Sea.
But for now, I press on--studying and inspecting whatever I can find, looking for a pattern or anything that makes enough sense to attempt to build.
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And this has been right under my nose for quite some time now:
http://www.hyiq.org/Research/Details?Name=Power%20Generator%20in%20the%20Nonlinear%20Inductance
And not a single validated replication:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d992B77SqsU#
Arrrg!!!
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Is there something happening in this little circuit that is clearly not obvious? And if there is, what sort of timing pulses would need to be sent to the two switches?
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I'm sorry, if this is fake, they spent more time figuring out the hoax then they probably would have making it work.
This has to be real and we need to figure out how it works and scale it up.
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Searching for schematics on this one I stumled across this,
A Free-Energy Device
by Paul Raymond Jensen
I have built a transformer which supplies more power to its load than is drawn from its primary source. I named this device The Unidirectional Transformer (UDT), because the magnetic reaction of the load current does not affect the magnetic action of the primary circuit. The UDT is composed of a parallel LC resonant primary, a split secondary, a gapped magnetic core, and a "feedback winding." Virtually the only input power needed is that used to magnetize the core. The magnetic core I used came from a small 60 Hz commercial power transformer made of interleaved silicon steel E and I laminations. I took the core apart, separated the Es and the Is, and made one stacked E core and one stacked I core from the laminations. Then I filed down the centre leg of the E core about 15 mils (0.381mm) to gap the combined E-I transformer core. The resulting m of the core at 60 Hz was about 100.
The primary winding is wound on the centre leg of the core. The two secondary windings are wound on the two outer legs of the core and are series connected. Both secondary windings have the same number of turns. The "feedback winding" is wound over the primary on the centre leg and is connected in series with the secondary. The free-energy action of the UDT follows directly from the laws of magnetic circuits. Consider what happens when an AC sine voltage is applied to the UDT primary. A magnetizing current flows, which can become rather high because of the low m of the core. Fortunately, gapping the core results in a fairly constant m through the entire AC cycle, up to a peak H of about 720 A-T/M.
This results in a constant primary inductance, which permits parallel LC resonation. Resonating the primary reduces the magnetizing power to that necessary to match I2* R losses in the primary and the hysteresis losses in the core. Magnetizing the core results in an AC sine voltage being induced across the secondary. The magnetic coupling between the primary and the secondary is very high, but the core area within each secondary winding is only one-half that of the primary. This means that the volts/turn of the secondary will be only one-half that of the primary. For the secondary voltage to equal the primary voltage, the secondary must have two times the number of turns in the primary.
The primary also induces a voltage across the feedback coil, but the purpose and characteristics of the feedback coil will be explained later. When a current is drawn from the output, the two secondary windings each generate a magnetomotive force (MMF) directed against the MMF of the primary. The MMF of each secondary winding "sees" a series-parallel magnetic circuit through the transformer core. One magnetic circuit, "seen" by each secondary winding, is through the centre leg of the core. The other magnetic circuit "seen" by each secondary winding is through the two outer legs of the core. The resulting magnetic flux generated by the MMFs of the two secondary windings is dependent upon the reluctances of each of the magnetic circuits.
Because the centre leg is gapped, it has a higher reluctance than do the outer legs. This means that less magnetic flux from the secondary will pass through the centre leg than will pass through the outer legs.
In my transformer, the reluctances of the magnetic circuits through the centre leg were three times higher than the reluctances of the magnetic circuits through both outer legs. This was difficult to achieve and required hours of filing, polishing and fitting of the E and I cores. The alternative was to increase the gap, which was not acceptable in my particular design because I was driving the transformer at 60 Hz and could not afford any additional loss of m in the core.
Since the reluctances of the "centre leg circuits" were three times higher than the reluctances of the "outer leg circuits," one-quarter of the secondary flux passed through the centre leg, while three-quarters of the secondary flux passed through both outer legs. The magnetic flux from the two secondary windings cancels in the "outer leg circuits," leaving only one-quarter of the total flux generated by the output current to react back upon the primary. This resulted in a current gain in the secondary, relative to the primary. Lenz's law was bypassed, and free-energy resulted. An alternate explanation for the current gain in the UDT is to consider each secondary winding as acting as the primary winding for the other secondary winding when an output current is drawn because the two secondary windings generate geometrically opposing fields.
Now consider the "feedback winding." It is connected in series with the secondary and is wound over the primary winding on the centre leg of the core. When the core is magnetized, an induced voltage will appear across the feedback winding which will subtract from the voltage across the secondary. The purpose of the feedback winding is to cancel the remaining secondary flux passing through the centre leg of the core. It effectively isolates the currents in the primary and the secondary at the cost of a reduced output voltage. The feedback winding generates a magnetic flux equal and opposite to the residual magnetic flux from the secondary when an output current is drawn.
Given the above example, where three-quarters of the secondary flux self-cancels in the "outer leg circuits," the feedback coil will only have to oppose one-quarter of the total secondary flux. Since the feedback winding has two times the core area of the secondary windings and carries the full output current, it need have only one-quarter the number of turns of each secondary winding. However, this will reduce the output voltage by 25 percent. Therefore, to achieve the originally desired output voltage, the total number of secondary turns must be increased by the factor 4/3; the feedback coil must then have one-quarter of the number of turns of each secondary winding in this new secondary circuit.
Given the condition in which the feedback coil perfectly cancels all the residual secondary flux through the centre leg of the core, the power drawn from the output will be nearly independent of the primary input power. The primary input will be the magnetizing power and nothing more. The output power will have a negligible phase angle (due to the leakage inductance) if the m of the core (as seen by the primary) is at least 100. In practice, it is best if the feedback winding is short a turn or two, thereby preventing series inductance in the output at the cost of a small increase in the primary input power. A parallel resonant primary circuit allows for great input power reduction while ensuring voltage stability and linear operation under varying output loads.
The UDT can be used without a resonant primary circuit for the amplification of any time-varying signal. The main flaws of the UDT are the (normally) low primary m and the very long secondary wire required to ensure isolation of the input from the output. A single or double stack of E-I laminations seems to provide the optimum core geometry, all factors considered. At high frequencies it becomes practical to use ferrite cores with "centre leg circuit" reluctances less than their "outer leg circuit" reluctances because the volts/turn of each winding can be made very high. Conventional transformer design techniques should be used once the basic UDT topology has been determined.
I have invented and developed the UDT on my own, without benefit of any knowledge of other free-energy devices, if they exist, which utilize the basic principles of UDT operation. Please feel free to use this information as you desire. However, I hope that no one will attempt to patent and control this type of transformer. The time on Planet Earth is 15 minutes before midnight; there is no time left to waste.
Free-energy technology is not meant to be controlled by vain and greedy parasites who wish to use a gift from God to exploit their fellow man. Free-energy technology represents a spiritual transition of the human race. Free-energy is not meant to be owned, period!
UDT EQUATIONS
Number of Turns = N
a = V(output)/V(primary)
V(Primary)/N(Primary) = V(feedback)/N(feedback) = V(secondary)/N(secondary)/2
N(feedback) = [N(secondary)/2] [(R of outer circuit)/(R of outer circuit)+(R of centre circuit)]
a[N(Primary)] = [N(secondary)/2)-N(feedback)]
R = Reluctance = Y/mA
Are the redcoats on to something.......?
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Searching for schematics on this one I stumled across this,
Btw, the schematics for your find, the GLED, can be found here, http://realstrannik.ru/forum/temy-atom/134569-qgenerator-na-nelinejnoj-induktivnostiq-rekonstrukcziya-sxemy-i-pechatnoj-platy.html?start=36#176419, which is in the same thread.
Are the redcoats on to something.......?
What's your take on it? Does it seem like it could be legit, worth pursuing?
Do our Rusky neighbors have something figured out...? I guess I'm hoping so. No one else seems to be willing to share. I can't recall who said it, but it was stated that some day Russia would become a beacon of light. Maybe this is part of the first flicker.
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Jensen's UDT is covered by Thane Heins' patent. Nothing new here apart from the feedback winding.
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Jensen's UDT is covered by Thane Heins' patent. Nothing new here apart from the feedback winding.
(http://open-source-energy.org/?action=dlattach;topic=1772.0;attach=6943;image)
Here's my take on the above circuit--theory of operation:
L1 and L2 are bifilar wound coils. K1 and K2 are initially closed at T0, K1 effectively shorting out L1. C0 energizes L2 and and L3, creating a magnetic field within both halves of the dual E-core separated by an air gap much like a flyback transformer. At T1, K1 and K2 are opened and the magic begins. With L1 and L2 being bifilar wound, any magnetic field present in the lower half of the core is effectively cancelled out electrically. L1 and L2 become nothing more than a wire-wound resistor. But the magic is they dump the magnetic field built up in the lower half of the core to the upper half of the core. Now the voltage built up in L2 and L3 plus the source voltage at C0 is directed to the output at RH via the diode. So far, so good, but Lenz Law should bite us as it always does. So the current flowing to RH should push back in the reverse direction, opposing our input, just like it would do in a typical transformer or generator. Not so fast though, L1 and L2 are bifilar, meaning the magnetic field gets reversed, but it's still cancelled out. Lenz Law cannot get back to the source to push against us anymore.
Granted I'm still trying to wrap my head around it, but the switching and bifilar wound primary with an air gap between primary and secondary cores seems absolutely ingenious to me if I'm deciphering this all correctly. It also looks like something that can be scaled to whatever size you need. In addition, there is talk on the OverUnity forum that Tariel Kapanadze buried this simple technique under a cloak of spark gaps and funky looking coils to deceive anyone trying to replicate his work.
What I am convinced of is this seems simple enough to prototype, connect to a scope and see whether it flies.
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What's your take on it? Does it seem like it could be legit, worth pursuing?
Unfortunately I haven't won anything major yet, only small amounts now and then, which on the other hand lets me know that it could be possible for me to hit the right combination sometime........ :excited:
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I agree, it's worth wrapping some wire to find out.
Below is a piece of some notes in hand written Russian. The picture is helpful to visualize the direction of the wire wraps.
I have a small double E-Core that should be adequate to start with. I'm thinking 50 turns of some 24 gauge wire, primary bifilar on one side of the bobbin and another regular 50 turns on the other. Probably use a slice of tape between the two cores to provide a tiny gap to start with. Not at all sure what to use for switching as yet. I may literally use mechanical switches and just watch the scope to see if things are moving in the right direction based on my ToO. If it seems to build output across a capacitor inline with my thinking, I'll find a semiconductor drive solution and run the frequency up to some resonant point.
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Hi,
Just in case you haven't seen it, here translation of original Melnichenko document where all this stuff started from https://www.dropbox.com/s/6pemrzcowusgyii/gnli.pdf
As far as I understand it will not work as described but may be I missed something...
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Not at all sure what to use for switching as yet. I may literally use mechanical switches and just watch the scope to see if things are moving in the right direction based on my ToO. If it seems to build output across a capacitor inline with my thinking, I'll find a semiconductor drive solution and run the frequency up to some resonant point.
250 kHz, 2A output, 8 (10-16) mA input, 5kV isolation voltage, max 20V though on the output.
If it's for higher voltage and lower current then a FOD4116 would do just fine, max 600V, 300mA, input current of only 1.3 mA.
https://www.fairchildsemi.com/collateral/solutionguides/Optocoupler-Solutions-Guide.pdf
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Hi,
Just in case you haven't seen it, here translation of original Melnichenko document where all this stuff started from https://www.dropbox.com/s/6pemrzcowusgyii/gnli.pdf
As far as I understand it will not work as described but may be I missed something...
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Found this optocoupler, https://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FO/FOD3180.pdf
250 kHz, 2A output, 8 (10-16) mA input, 5kV isolation voltage, max 20V though on the output.
If it's for higher voltage and lower current then a FOD4116 would do just fine, max 600V, 300mA, input current of only 1.3 mA.
https://www.fairchildsemi.com/collateral/solutionguides/Optocoupler-Solutions-Guide.pdf
Complete isolation from a timing source like an Ardrino and it generates its own power to trigger the internal MOSFETs. Sweet. They say these devices are optimal for replacing reed relays so they would be fully bidirectional just like a mechanical switch.
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Thanks Vasik, appreciate it :thumbsup:
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Check this out Lynx, a PhotoVoltaic Relay. Perfect!
Complete isolation from a timing source like an Ardrino and it generates its own power to trigger the internal MOSFETs. Sweet. They say these devices are optimal for replacing reed relays so they would be fully bidirectional just like a mechanical switch.
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Check this out Lynx, a PhotoVoltaic Relay. Perfect!
Complete isolation from a timing source like an Ardrino and it generates its own power to trigger the internal MOSFETs. Sweet. They say these devices are optimal for replacing reed relays so they would be fully bidirectional just like a mechanical switch.
It's been a while now since I checked out what new innovations there are regarding solid state switches so news like this are welcome, could come in handy sometime :thumbsup:
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Oh, and Vasik, in reply to:
http://vasik041.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/wouldnt-it-be-nice-to-learn-how-to-build-such-device/
Shortly you might have your answer, or at the very least, how not to build such a device. :)
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Oh, and Vasik, in reply to:
http://vasik041.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/wouldnt-it-be-nice-to-learn-how-to-build-such-device/
Shortly you might have your answer, or at the very least, how not to build such a device. :)
I am following mystery around this device probably for 10 years now, I made many different experiments and still far from solution...how it could possibly work? Let's see if you have more luck than me :-)
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Hi Matt,
I am following mystery around this device probably for 10 years now, I made many different experiments and still far from solution...how it could possibly work? Let's see if you have more luck than me :-)
I would love to be proven wrong though.
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Hi Lynx,
I think it's not so simple, see "GLED 2" video from this link
link(http://www.hyiq.org/Research/Details?Name=Power%20Generator%20in%20the%20Nonlinear%20Inductance)
Device working inside microwave oven... after that most people think there is a battery hidden inside pot core :-)
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Thanks for sharing Vasik, that's a very complete link you provided.
Oh, so they think it's a battery then?
Well, it's still very easy to build so it could make for an interesting soldering experience if nothing else ;-)
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That's from the HyIQ site I believe. I'm seeing some very confused schematics in the finished model (stuff you don't need and other crazy things) so I think I will stick with the fundamental hand-drawn schematic and build the inductor, then try my own circuit to energize it.
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Here's one with schematics,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAjRxPaZTrs#ws
Quote from ZeroFossilFuelTHIS is COMICAL!!! Op-amps are differential input devices. When you tie the inputs together THEY DO NOTHING! The person who drew these is an IDIOT! Anyone building against these schematiics will be sorely disappointed.
I would tend to agree on that one.
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Okay, so I have the epoxy hardening on my split bobbin. Next, I'll put some wire to it and get a count on the number of turns it is able to hold.
What I'm finding to be very disconcerting is the poor schematics. No one can build a working device with incorrect schematics, not Akula, not Kapanadze, not Melnichenko, none of them. That little voice inside my head says I'm stepping into a pys-op. Even so, I have to ask a couple of questions? Does a real operational device exist? Wesley Stivep says he saw a small Kapanadze device with his own eyes and attests to it being genuine. So does that simply mean the schematics have been doctored? If so, is there enough still there combined with logical thinking to replicate a working device?
On the negative side, could the photographs and videos have been faked as well? One has to ask themselves if all the effort put forth to build such a campaign of lies is really worth stopping a few experimenters from building self-powered flashlights. Seems to me any establishment willing to devote that much expense, time and effort has gone completely off the ranch and would be breaching even their own mission statement. I mean seriously, wouldn't it make more sense to do nothing and invest those resources somewhere more productive? Don't these guys have internal auditors?
From our standpoint, all we need is a correct concept. We can come up with a design to implement it on our own. I sure hope this non-linear inductance scheme pans out.
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Talking about the Akula 30 watt unit on overunity research forum...
I will however state that this schematic is a follow on from some earlier work from a Russian named Pantiuchov. I built a device from the schematic that self ran for 30 sec's before the storage cap dramatically exploded !!
So I think there may be some merit to this one, time will tell.
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My lord, all the Russians have free energy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpwm2-eJiiM#ws
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Quote from ZerofossilefuelTHIS is COMICAL!!! Op-amps are differential input devices. When you tie the inputs together THEY DO NOTHING! The person who drew these is an IDIOT! Anyone building against these schematiics will be sorely disappointed.
I would tend to agree on that one.
Which I did evidently........
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Probably wise to keep an eye on this thread over at OUR:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2358.0
And this one at OU:
http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/
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My lord, all the Russians have free energy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpwm2-eJiiM#ws
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Matt you think there is enough information here to build this one, I've never seen one of those LED flood lights before, wouldn't mind having a few of them laying around, especially if they used a free energy source. :cool: :D
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Check out how Akula has engaged the Asian crowd here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_WCcUXvZK8#
Yes, if we don't get our heads straight, we will be left in the dust very soon.
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Looks like wire wraped around wire then more wire on top of that, is this about right? :D
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So the "core" is just made of (thick) wire wrapped in a circle, X number of turns, which then leaves the rest of the coils being wrapped around the core perpendicular to the core wire itself?
Most interesting.
I wish my lazy hiatus could go away, I'm kinda fed up with it.
There's too many interesting things going on here right now making it even more useless to waste time doing nothing.
I wonder what the simple most concept proving device would look like?
Hopefully something that which takes like only 1 hour (tops) to put together, including coffe breaks and regular forum browsing.
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Looks like wire wraped around wire then more wire on top of that, is this about right? :D
I know one thing for sure, once I get this UniSwitch operational, it won't take much to try a simple test and see if I can get something working. Switches, wire and a little patience wrapping should be all it takes to find out.
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A snapshot of the device: