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Open - Source - Research => Open-Source Research => Topic started by: ~Russ on August 7th, 2011, 11:53 AM
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Hello everyone,
Test. Test. Test.
This is my version of Stan's frequency generator.
(See Attachment)
I have giving it the name “The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator” just for fun so we can call it “the Rustic circuit” for short.
This is basically a dual circuit consisting of some 555 timer’s and some divide by 10 chips with a d flip flop for true 50% duty cycle switching. With an and gate for combining the signals for gating.
I have included some information I have done while building this circuit…
I’m posting this some what un finished. The circuit will work as is, but I would like to ad some MOSFET drivers and some inverted outputs so I can run the GHH and EEC.
I will add that as I go.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Once all is done I would like to make some PCB so this can be nice and neat.
Enjoy,
~Russ
Schematic here:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/The%20Russtic%20WFC%20Frequency%20Generator%20%20v3.1.bmp(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/The%20Russtic%20WFC%20Frequency%20Generator%20%20%20v3.1.bmp)
Some calculations for the The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator (True 50% Duty Frequency Generator W GatingV3.1 ) Schematic
Here you will find the calculations I maid while building this frequency generator. It may be of some help so I added it to the files.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of 19.894khz to 220.845khz with a .33nF capacitor.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of 1.989khz to 22.084khz with a 3.3nF capacitor.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of about 198.941hz to 2.208khz with a 33nF capacitor.
This means I can get from .099hz up to 110.422khz frequency with this a 50% duty with the 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s. Using these deferent capacitors, 33uf , 3.3uf ,.33uf
Here are the Minimum and Maximum values.
Max Values With a .33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
220.845khz / 2 = 110.422khz /10 = 11.042khz / 10 = 1.104khz / 10 = 110.422hz
Minimum Values With a .33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
19.894khz / 2 = 9.947khz /10 = 994.7hz / 10 = 99.47hz / 10 = 9.947hz
Max Values With a 3.3nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
22.084khz / 2 = 11.042khz / 10 = 1.1042khz / 10 = 110.42hz /10 = 11.042hz
Minimum Values With a 3.3nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
1.989khz / 2 = 994.5hz / 10 = 99.45hz / 10 = 9.945hz /10 = .9945hz
Max Values With a 33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
2.208khz / 2 = 1.104hz / 10 = 110.4hz / 10 = 11.04hz / 10 = 1.104
Minimum Values With a 33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
198.941hz / 2 = 99.470hz / 10 = 9.947hz / 10 = .9947hz / 10 = .09947
So if you need lower or higher Hz for your cell you can change the capacitor selector.
But this should cover anything you will need
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Hello everyone,
This is my version of Stan's frequency generator.
(See Attachment)
I have giving it the name “The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator” just for fun so we can call it “the Rustic circuit” for short.
This is basically a dual circuit consisting of some 555 timer’s and some divide by 10 chips with a d flip flop for true 50% duty cycle switching. With an and gate for combining the signals for gating.
I have included some information I have done while building this circuit…
I’m posting this some what un finished. The circuit will work as is, but I would like to ad some MOSFET drivers and some inverted outputs so I can run the GHH and EEC.
I will add that as I go.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Once all is done I would like to make some PCB so this can be nice and neat.
Enjoy,
~Russ
Schematic here:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/The%20Russtic%20WFC%20Frequency%20Generator%20%20v3.1.bmp(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/The%20Russtic%20WFC%20Frequency%20Generator%20%20%20v3.1.bmp)
Some calculations for the The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator (True 50% Duty Frequency Generator W GatingV3.1 ) Schematic
Here you will find the calculations I maid while building this frequency generator. It may be of some help so I added it to the files.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of 19.894khz to 220.845khz with a .33nF capacitor.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of 1.989khz to 22.084khz with a 3.3nF capacitor.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of about 198.941hz to 2.208khz with a 33nF capacitor.
This means I can get from .099hz up to 110.422khz frequency with this a 50% duty with the 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s. Using these deferent capacitors, 33uf , 3.3uf ,.33uf
Here are the Minimum and Maximum values.
Max Values With a .33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
220.845khz / 2 = 110.422khz /10 = 11.042khz / 10 = 1.104khz / 10 = 110.422hz
Minimum Values With a .33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
19.894khz / 2 = 9.947khz /10 = 994.7hz / 10 = 99.47hz / 10 = 9.947hz
Max Values With a 3.3nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
22.084khz / 2 = 11.042khz / 10 = 1.1042khz / 10 = 110.42hz /10 = 11.042hz
Minimum Values With a 3.3nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
1.989khz / 2 = 994.5hz / 10 = 99.45hz / 10 = 9.945hz /10 = .9945hz
Max Values With a 33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
2.208khz / 2 = 1.104hz / 10 = 110.4hz / 10 = 11.04hz / 10 = 1.104
Minimum Values With a 33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
198.941hz / 2 = 99.470hz / 10 = 9.947hz / 10 = .9947hz / 10 = .09947
So if you need lower or higher Hz for your cell you can change the capacitor selector.
But this should cover anything you will need
I can't wait to build this one. :D
Nate
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Up to date Files...
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russt...2040.5.sch(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russt...2040.5.sch)
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russt...2040.5.pcb(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russt...2040.5.pcb)
Use ExpressPCB to view files and print out boards
http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm(http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm)
(No Mac Version)
Related Files
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/
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The old 8XA build... No Gating :(
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-46-43.746.jpg)
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-46-24.920.jpg)
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-50-37.999.jpg)
The New Russtic Freq Gen :). I bought the wrong resistors, so I couldn't complete it this weekend.
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-48-34.012.jpg)
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http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pdf/26143/VISHAY/4N35/727/4/4N35.html
Does the 4N35 have a fast enough switching time?
I have found a fast and cheap optocoupler for voltages up to 1000V.
It has to get a power supply voltage of 5V and that way it´s TTL compatible and really fast.
datasheet for 6N137/HCNW2601 at http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...p/HCNW2611.pdf.
enjoy!
bussi04
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The old 8XA build... No Gating :(
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-46-43.746.jpg)
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-46-24.920.jpg)
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-50-37.999.jpg)
The New Russtic Freq Gen :). I bought the wrong resistors, so I couldn't complete it this weekend.
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/2011-08-08%2001-48-34.012.jpg)
Keep it up!
~Russ
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http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pdf/26143/VISHAY/4N35/727/4/4N35.html
Does the 4N35 have a fast enough switching time?
I have found a fast and cheap optocoupler for voltages up to 1000V.
It has to get a power supply voltage of 5V and that way it´s TTL compatible and really fast.
datasheet for 6N137/HCNW2601 at http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...p/HCNW2611.pdf.
enjoy!
bussi04
~Russ
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Hello everyone,
This is my version of Stan's frequency generator.
(See Attachment)
I have giving it the name “The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator” just for fun so we can call it “the Rustic circuit” for short.
This is basically a dual circuit consisting of some 555 timer’s and some divide by 10 chips with a d flip flop for true 50% duty cycle switching. With an and gate for combining the signals for gating.
I have included some information I have done while building this circuit…
I’m posting this some what un finished. The circuit will work as is, but I would like to ad some MOSFET drivers and some inverted outputs so I can run the GHH and EEC.
I will add that as I go.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Once all is done I would like to make some PCB so this can be nice and neat.
Enjoy,
~Russ
Schematic here:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/The%20Russtic%20WFC%20Frequency%20Generator%20%20v3.1.bmp(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/The%20Russtic%20WFC%20Frequency%20Generator%20%20%20v3.1.bmp)
Some calculations for the The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator (True 50% Duty Frequency Generator W GatingV3.1 ) Schematic
Here you will find the calculations I maid while building this frequency generator. It may be of some help so I added it to the files.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of 19.894khz to 220.845khz with a .33nF capacitor.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of 1.989khz to 22.084khz with a 3.3nF capacitor.
The 555 timer will run at a frequency of about 198.941hz to 2.208khz with a 33nF capacitor.
This means I can get from .099hz up to 110.422khz frequency with this a 50% duty with the 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s. Using these deferent capacitors, 33uf , 3.3uf ,.33uf
Here are the Minimum and Maximum values.
Max Values With a .33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
220.845khz / 2 = 110.422khz /10 = 11.042khz / 10 = 1.104khz / 10 = 110.422hz
Minimum Values With a .33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
19.894khz / 2 = 9.947khz /10 = 994.7hz / 10 = 99.47hz / 10 = 9.947hz
Max Values With a 3.3nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
22.084khz / 2 = 11.042khz / 10 = 1.1042khz / 10 = 110.42hz /10 = 11.042hz
Minimum Values With a 3.3nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
1.989khz / 2 = 994.5hz / 10 = 99.45hz / 10 = 9.945hz /10 = .9945hz
Max Values With a 33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
2.208khz / 2 = 1.104hz / 10 = 110.4hz / 10 = 11.04hz / 10 = 1.104
Minimum Values With a 33nF 74LS74 and the 74LS90 IC’s
198.941hz / 2 = 99.470hz / 10 = 9.947hz / 10 = .9947hz / 10 = .09947
So if you need lower or higher Hz for your cell you can change the capacitor selector.
But this should cover anything you will need
Hi all you all are way above my pay grade here so let me add some Stan that may be relevant. I was watching some Stans old vids and he punched in 14752 as a secuity code on a door. I punched in 14752 and it came back as a patent pending khz. an appliction for maximizing ozone. US2002/0058000 FILED:May 16 2002 Example #2 Coinsidence or clue??
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Hello everyone,
This is my version of Stan's frequency generator.
(See Attachment)
I have giving it the name “The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator” just for fun so we can call it “the Rustic circuit” for short.
This is basically a dual circuit consisting of some 555 timer’s and some divide by 10 chips with a d flip flop for true 50% duty cycle switching. With an and gate for combining the signals for gating.
- SW1 Connect the Synced pin to COM of sw3 instead of X4.
Also the gating is not synced and that will cost you a mosfet to make synced try this;
- Connect gate ouput to U12 /CLR pin.
- maybe remove U13 and U10 to save 2 chips.
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Also the gating is not synced and that will cost you a mosfet to make synced try this;
- Connect gate ouput to U12 /CLR pin.
- maybe remove U13 and U10 to save 2 chips.
- Connect gate ouput to an AND gate input.
- Connect other AND gate input to Q or /Q of U12.
- Connect AND gate output to second AND gate input.
- Connect second AND gate output to U12 /CLR pin.
- Connect second AND gate other input to pull up resistor
- Connect second AND gate other input to gating On/Off switch to ground.
- remove U13 and reuse U10 for and gates.
Or even just connect to gating output to the RST input of the 555 timer U1 but again with and gates of output of U1 so gating is synced.
So gating only begins when signal in in defined state so the 50% duty pulse of main freq will be completed before gating is turning signal on or off.
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Hi all you all are way above my pay grade here so let me add some Stan that may be relevant. I was watching some Stans old vids and he punched in 14752 as a secuity code on a door. I punched in 14752 and it came back as a patent pending khz. an appliction for maximizing ozone. US2002/0058000 FILED:May 16 2002 Example #2 Coinsidence or clue??
http://ip.com/patapp/US20020058000
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Hello all,
Just wanted to give a little look at what I have been messing with this week. :) I started brushing up on my PCBexpress skills and started laying out Russ' circuit on a Radio Shack sized dual layer board. I still have a ton of work to do on it, but I'll be posting the file and the part numbers of the components I designed the board around. I really would feel more comfortable with the design after I bread board one of these circuits. lol This is my second try at it, the first one got messy. :P I might be done with the design by the end of next week.:cool:
Nate
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Also the gating is not synced and that will cost you a mosfet to make synced try this;
- Connect gate ouput to U12 /CLR pin.
- maybe remove U13 and U10 to save 2 chips.
- Connect gate ouput to an AND gate input.
- Connect other AND gate input to Q or /Q of U12.
- Connect AND gate output to second AND gate input.
- Connect second AND gate output to U12 /CLR pin.
- Connect second AND gate other input to pull up resistor
- Connect second AND gate other input to gating On/Off switch to ground.
- remove U13 and reuse U10 for and gates.
Or even just connect to gating output to the RST input of the 555 timer U1 but again with and gates of output of U1 so gating is synced.
So gating only begins when signal in in defined state so the 50% duty pulse of main freq will be completed before gating is turning signal on or off.
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Hello all,
Just wanted to give a little look at what I have been messing with this week. :) I started brushing up on my PCBexpress skills and started laying out Russ' circuit on a Radio Shack sized dual layer board. I still have a ton of work to do on it, but I'll be posting the file and the part numbers of the components I designed the board around. I really would feel more comfortable with the design after I bread board one of these circuits. lol This is my second try at it, the first one got messy. :P I might be done with the design by the end of next week.:cool:
Nate
I tried to design the board so that all the controls and indicators were on one side of the board. That way they could be mounted 90 degrees and put directly through a project box with out extra wires. The SP4T rotary switches can be replaced by a dual row 90 degree 4 pin header, using jumper to select. I plan on using regular straight header pins with wires soldered to a socket, that will go to any kind of rotary switch. Otherwise wires could be soldered directly to the board from a rotary switch.
Does it look like I'm missing anything obvious? :huh:
Nate
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Im having to do alot of trouble shooting on my circuit... Found one bad flip flop IC chip.
Seem like I have to add .1uf cap(s) in the power rails between the two 555 chips or else one seems to affect the other
*** Also I have some chips that say DM74LS90N they give me a good signal :) .... If I use the ones that say SN74LS90N things don't work right :(
This may be important.... What chips do you have russ?
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(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/gating.bmp)
:) ... Just need some new IC chips and I'll be rockin
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Hi tx, I was wondering if you might have a schematic showing the changes you made to the one Russ had posted, just to visually see the changes, thanks.:D
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Hi tx, I was wondering if you might have a schematic showing the changes you made to the one Russ had posted, just to visually see the changes, thanks.:D
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Does anyone know where someone could find out what the abbreviations CLR/CLK/PRE/Q/D mean... I think I've looked before and couldn't find anything
CLK = Clock
PRE = Set
D = Data
Q = Output
Some companies use little different naming but functions are the same.
Also the X vs /X means; X=active low & /X=active high.
So note that the 74xx74 in schematic has /PRE active high and the D-flipflop in the simulation is PRE active low so maybe there need an extra inverter or use the other Q as input.
Some some more info and function tables see;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_%28electronics%29
Seem like I have to add .1uf cap(s) in the power rails between the two 555 chips or else one seems to affect the other
The 555's even needs decouples power like in the lawton circuit, a small resistor to from the Vcc to the Vcc of the 555 and large+small cap to stablelize it so the 555 don't affect the other.
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Hi tx, I was wondering if you might have a schematic showing the changes you made to the one Russ had posted, just to visually see the changes, thanks.:D
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I bought another 7490 Chip today just for fun. Its label is HD74LS90P.... It does NOT work Either
SO.... All good results with the DM74LS90N chip !!
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I bought another 7490 Chip today just for fun. Its label is HD74LS90P.... It does NOT work Either
SO.... All good results with the DM74LS90N chip !!
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I have everything working nicely up to the 4N35. Seems like I cant get a clean signal threw the 4N35... kinda like its not switching fast enough or something. Check it out
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/4N35.bmp)
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I have everything working nicely up to the 4N35. Seems like I cant get a clean signal threw the 4N35... kinda like its not switching fast enough or something. Check it out
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/4N35.bmp)
what is interesting is that Stan's original VIC cards from the GMS did not have opto-couplers... just a 5 amp blocking diode... but all other circuits that we know of did... this could be part of the fix that helped the system???
see attached photo.
this is a hand sketch i did from the VIC CARD... there is alot of other systems that go in to this... si it may not make sense unless you understand it all. but you can see there is no opto-couplers...
i have built this circuit, but i have not had the time to get it working properly.
~Russ
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Ha Will, the picture you posted with your switching problem did not come out, all I see is a blank page and your text, is this a schematic or something else, Jeff.
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Ha Will, the picture you posted with your switching problem did not come out, all I see is a blank page and your text, is this a schematic or something else, Jeff.
http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/4N35.bmp
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Russ, I think I can give that circuit a go... Ill try to skype soon so we can clarify some things
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Ha Will, the picture you posted with your switching problem did not come out, all I see is a blank page and your text, is this a schematic or something else, Jeff.
http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/4N35.bmp
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Ha Will, the picture you posted with your switching problem did not come out, all I see is a blank page and your text, is this a schematic or something else, Jeff.
http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/4N35.bmp
Just got my first oscilloscope a few weeks ago and lovin it... This is the same brand Russ has. I payed only $130-$150 on ebay for the 2090 model from china $20 duties... Russ has the 5200 model Which is like $350
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Ha Will, the picture you posted with your switching problem did not come out, all I see is a blank page and your text, is this a schematic or something else, Jeff.
http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/4N35.bmp
Just got my first oscilloscope a few weeks ago and lovin it... This is the same brand Russ has. I payed only $130-$150 on ebay for the 2090 model from china $20 duties... Russ has the 5200 model Which is like $350
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I have everything working nicely up to the 4N35. Seems like I cant get a clean signal threw the 4N35... kinda like its not switching fast enough or something. Check it out
~Russ
Try to make in active pull down with pull up transistor by changing;
- Use the 4.7K r as pull up between base of transistor and supply voltage.
- Pin4 of 4N35 to ground
- Pin5 to base of transistor (with resistor if using transistor)
- And because using normal transistor base current needs to calculated for full on what the resistor value needs to be between base of transistor and Pin5 of 4N35 maybe try 4.7K. (mosfets are a lot easer they have trashold)
(Or the inverse but i see mostly active pull down being used on mosfets(voltage controlled) and TIP is normal transistor so is current controlled)
If on high freq off time is not fast enough then lower the pull up resistor value.
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I have everything working nicely up to the 4N35. Seems like I cant get a clean signal threw the 4N35... kinda like its not switching fast enough or something. Check it out
~Russ
Try to make in active pull down with pull up transistor by changing;
- Use the 4.7K r as pull up between base of transistor and supply voltage.
- Pin4 of 4N35 to ground
- Pin5 to base of transistor (with resistor if using transistor)
- And because using normal transistor base current needs to calculated for full on what the resistor value needs to be between base of transistor and Pin5 of 4N35 maybe try 4.7K. (mosfets are a lot easer they have trashold)
(Or the inverse but i see mostly active pull down being used on mosfets(voltage controlled) and TIP is normal transistor so is current controlled)
If on high freq off time is not fast enough then lower the pull up resistor value.
Or even just connect to gating output to the RST input of the 555 timer U1 but again with and gates of output of U1 so gating is synced.
So gating only begins when signal in in defined state so the 50% duty pulse of main freq will be completed before gating is turning signal on or off.
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Cell Driver Circuit
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/Cell_Driver_Circuit.jpg)
Russ I have not seen the image that you traced... My schematic is missing the one resistor, Your image has the extra 22K Resistor at the bottom... I';m wondering if thats the one?? Link for picture?
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IRFP 260 ... Getting a lesson on transistors :)
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Cell Driver Circuit
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/Cell_Driver_Circuit.jpg)
Russ I have not seen the image that you traced... My schematic is missing the one resistor, Your image has the extra 22K Resistor at the bottom... I';m wondering if thats the one?? Link for picture?
the driver circuit is a separate system its on the VIC CARD but is not really connected to anything else on that card...
this is why its hard to see what is really going on in stand GMS system... thus it is going to take a long time to get a full system working correctly even with all the cards in hand... (No I done have the cards... just photos you can find online... )
see attachments ~Russ
i havent had much luck with this driver circuit... but i need to try it again with new parts... :) POOF!
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There is no transistor hooked up. This is just running the 5v signal to either pin 4 or 5 and reading off the other
So are you saying to connect U5 pin3 out to U1 pin 4 rst to keep them synced? what do I do with the and gate?? you lost me on that part?
With the gating on the clock divider with the AND port, both first and last pulse are synced while gated on/off.
Have you tried a ~10K resistor from the opto output to the ground ? That forces a discharge of the output to zero when transistor goes off.
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Quote from : http://www.edaboard.com/thread30985.html...
4N35 has rising and falling time in the range of 2µs.
It's main use is: digital logic inputs, microprocessor inputs, ...etc.
For driving MOSFETs there are special options called Gate Drive Optoisolators, example TLP250/1 from Toshiba..
http://www.futurlec.com/LED/TLP250.shtml(http://www.futurlec.com/LED/TLP250.shtml)
Parts:
http://www.futurlec.com/LEDOpto.shtml(http://www.futurlec.com/LEDOpto.shtml)
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I'm almost done with my ExpressPCB file of The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator. I have it attached in the zip file. I haven't received the parts I ordered to test fit any parts as of yet. I hope I have everything mapped out correctly and didn't miss anything!
I wish I could find a project box that had screw holes that would work with the radioshack board. The holes I put in the board design are unique to it's self. I'd like to keep the design a sort of "bolt on" type part, so that not much fabrication would be needed. Is there a good dual sided blank PCB/project box combo out there?
Nate
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(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/IRFP264Output.jpg)
Output of the IRFP264 Mosfet. With 12V threw and a 25 Ohm 10W Resistor. 1K resistor Between G and D.
I still have some work to do... The signal goes on instead of off with the gating.
Almost a clean signal except for the waviness... I'm not sure if a cap can clean that up...?
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(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/IRFP264Output.jpg)
Output of the IRFP264 Mosfet. With 12V threw and a 25 Ohm 10W Resistor. 1K resistor Between G and D.
I still have some work to do... The signal goes on instead of off with the gating.
Almost a clean signal except for the waviness... I'm not sure if a cap can clean that up...?
and everyone else.
when we get this working with the opto, we need to re due the schematic. ans Firepento's PCB.
~Russ
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Output of the IRFP264 Mosfet. With 12V threw and a 25 Ohm 10W Resistor. 1K resistor Between G and D.
I still have some work to do... The signal goes on instead of off with the gating.
Almost a clean signal except for the waviness... I'm not sure if a cap can clean that up...?
and everyone else.
when we get this working with the opto, we need to re due the schematic. ans Firepento's PCB.
~Russ
Nate
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Output of the IRFP264 Mosfet. With 12V threw and a 25 Ohm 10W Resistor. 1K resistor Between G and D.
I still have some work to do... The signal goes on instead of off with the gating.
Almost a clean signal except for the waviness... I'm not sure if a cap can clean that up...?
and everyone else.
when we get this working with the opto, we need to re due the schematic. ans Firepento's PCB.
~Russ
Nate
I am thinking to mount the mosfet seperatly so your not drawing the high voltage threw your board. On something like a cpu Heatsink maybe even with a fan too... I am new to this so i dont know if this is overkill or not.
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I'm almost done with my ExpressPCB file of The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator. I have it attached in the zip file. I haven't received the parts I ordered to test fit any parts as of yet. I hope I have everything mapped out correctly and didn't miss anything!
I wish I could find a project box that had screw holes that would work with the radioshack board. The holes I put in the board design are unique to it's self. I'd like to keep the design a sort of "bolt on" type part, so that not much fabrication would be needed. Is there a good dual sided blank PCB/project box combo out there?
Nate
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I'm almost done with my ExpressPCB file of The Russtic WFC Frequency Generator. I have it attached in the zip file. I haven't received the parts I ordered to test fit any parts as of yet. I hope I have everything mapped out correctly and didn't miss anything!
I wish I could find a project box that had screw holes that would work with the radioshack board. The holes I put in the board design are unique to it's self. I'd like to keep the design a sort of "bolt on" type part, so that not much fabrication would be needed. Is there a good dual sided blank PCB/project box combo out there?
Nate
It looks like the plastic parts would not be water/HHO tight, but maybe a sealer coating could deal with that?
Nate
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(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/IRFP264_ouput.jpg)
Yellow (Pulse from circuit)
Green (IRFP265 12V output)
So I was able to invert the signal and get the gated pulses we are looking for. Russ I removed the first inverter and everything still works fine(I am not using the first two leds though)
So the Tops of the Pulses are very choppy... I tried capacitors all over the place with no luck :(. But besides that, it seems great :)
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(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/IRFP264_ouput.jpg)
Yellow (Pulse from circuit)
Green (IRFP265 12V output)
So I was able to invert the signal and get the gated pulses we are looking for. Russ I removed the first inverter and everything still works fine(I am not using the first two leds though)
So the Tops of the Pulses are very choppy... I tried capacitors all over the place with no luck :(. But besides that, it seems great :)
Good Work!
~Russ
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Output Circuit
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/rustic_output_circuit.png)
Put in a 75Ω instead of 25Ω and getting a nice clean signal. Mosfet Running cool
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/IRFP264cleanoutput.jpg)
:)
I had another thought to get finer tuning from freq gen side. Replace the frequency gen pot with a smaller rated one and add more capacitors to switch. Just a though, could be a nice add on.
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Output Circuit
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/rustic_output_circuit.png)
Put in a 75Ω instead of 25Ω and getting a nice clean signal. Mosfet Running cool
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/IRFP264cleanoutput.jpg)
:)
I had another thought to get finer tuning from freq gen side. Replace the frequency gen pot with a smaller rated one and add more capacitors to switch. Just a though, could be a nice add on.
ill be trying this some time when i get there!
also on the i had the same type thought. i did some calculations and it seems that the pot i chose was for a reason... but this circuit it open to change and that's what i posted it for in the development stages so we can change it up!!!
good work will, i can now do some out put testing.
also what about your opto isolator??
can you post a schematic of that part also!!!
thanks!
~Russ
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Ha Will, I ordered the Hantek DSO-5200A Oscilloscope, can't wait to get it but it's going to take about 4 weeks, oh well, but in the mean time, could you post the complete schematic that you have come up with so I can start again from that point, really appreciate your good work on this, thank you, Jeff.:cool::D
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http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/32418/TOSHIBA/TLP250.html
Russ there is no opto on the circuit. The U10d I show in my schematic is where is connects to your circuit.
I was told opto wasn't really needed with the IRFP, and is just more switching which can degrade signal.... The IRFP Is suppose to Isolate, but then the resistor conects the two sides...?... There Is this TLP250 I was looking at but my parts store didn't have it. It is entitled inverter, so i would think It can replace that inverter I added maybe.
Russ I sent you a IRFP 264 along with your chips :). Im gunna try and order the TLP250.
Jeff my schematic just attached onto Russ. Were still testing so we cant give you any solid data changes are still happening... Awesome news about the Oscilloscope, you'll love it :)
TLP250 Transistor Inverter PhotoCoupler
http://www.futurlec.com/LEDOpto.shtml
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http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/32418/TOSHIBA/TLP250.html
Russ there is no opto on the circuit. The U10d I show in my schematic is where is connects to your circuit.
I was told opto wasn't really needed with the IRFP, and is just more switching which can degrade signal.... The IRFP Is suppose to Isolate, but then the resistor conects the two sides...?... There Is this TLP250 I was looking at but my parts store didn't have it. It is entitled inverter, so i would think It can replace that inverter I added maybe.
Russ I sent you a IRFP 264 along with your chips :). Im gunna try and order the TLP250.
Jeff my schematic just attached onto Russ. Were still testing so we cant give you any solid data changes are still happening... Awesome news about the Oscilloscope, you'll love it :)
TLP250 Transistor Inverter PhotoCoupler
http://www.futurlec.com/LEDOpto.shtml
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(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/Rustic_IRFPout.jpg)
So Jeff I think your scope comes with a X1 and X10 probe, which lets you read up to 50V
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=x1000+probe&_sacat=See-All-Categories
X1000 Probe Lets you read up to 5000V but pricey
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/heatsink.jpg)
Here is a heatsink I found
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(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/Rustic_IRFPout.jpg)
So Jeff I think your scope comes with a X1 and X10 probe, which lets you read up to 50V
http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=x1000+probe&_sacat=See-All-Categories
X1000 Probe Lets you read up to 5000V but pricey
(http://www.dir-t-will.com/filesharing/files/heatsink.jpg)
Here is a heatsink I found
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The Program for my 2090 model only goes up to X1000 Let me know if yours goes higher please :)
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The Program for my 2090 model only goes up to X1000 Let me know if yours goes higher please :)
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Will, the scope I just ordered went up in price $200.00 it was $349.00 now it's $549.00, hopefully they will still ship it at the lower price, because I paid for it before they went up, just to let you know, also did you get the circuit working yesterday,Jeff.
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http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/32418/TOSHIBA/TLP250.html
Russ there is no opto on the circuit. The U10d I show in my schematic is where is connects to your circuit.
I was told opto wasn't really needed with the IRFP, and is just more switching which can degrade signal.... The IRFP Is suppose to Isolate, but then the resistor conects the two sides...?... There Is this TLP250 I was looking at but my parts store didn't have it. It is entitled inverter, so i would think It can replace that inverter I added maybe.
Russ I sent you a IRFP 264 along with your chips :). Im gunna try and order the TLP250.
Jeff my schematic just attached onto Russ. Were still testing so we cant give you any solid data changes are still happening... Awesome news about the Oscilloscope, you'll love it :)
TLP250 Transistor Inverter PhotoCoupler
http://www.futurlec.com/LEDOpto.shtml
thanks so much will! i got some progress done on the EPG so i will post that over on the EPG page. then i can get back to some electronics some time soon! keep making progress!
thanks
~Russ
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I've been hard at it with this circuit, Everything seem to be working great. New PCB board will be assembles and the next few days and tested.
My Progress
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG067.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG068.jpg)
Some other possible output configuration:
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/mosfet%20_%20igbt%20driver%20configurations.pdf(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/mosfet%20_%20igbt%20driver%20configurations.pdf)
Kevin :)
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I've been hard at it with this circuit, Everything seem to be working great. New PCB board will be assembles and the next few days and tested.
Kevin :)
so the photo paper is the way to go?
ill need to get my circuit back to testing with your hard work here!
sweet! your hard work is paying off my friend! and its fun to build a circuit like this from nothing! PCB and all! makes you feel good about your ability's do this type of work!
good job! ~Russ
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The above files have been updated
*************************so the photo paper is the way to go?
Progress... :)
The amazing 5 min drill press !!!
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG070.jpg)
Worked like a charm
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG072.jpg)
All components installed
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG074.jpg)
Complete Board
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG078.jpg)
And down I go.. Goodnight everyone. (lol i forgot to push post before sleep, so good morning now too!!)
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The above files have been updatedso the photo paper is the way to go?
Progress... :)
And down I go.. Goodnight everyone. (lol i forgot to push post before sleep, so good morning now too!!)
fantastic work! also when you post photos for some resin they don't compress so make them smaller before posting :) also attach high-res photos then also.
main reason for that is the links stuff don't display correct... lol i don't know why it dose that!
hows the testing??? lol you did not get there EH? sweet!!!!
~Russ
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Kevin that circuit looks beautiful. Great job buddy. I am curious to know can these circuits be used to create extream high voltage. Like for what's required for the 10kv to 40kv for the burning water expariments.
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Kevin that circuit looks beautiful. Great job buddy. I am curious to know can these circuits be used to create extream high voltage. Like for what's required for the 10kv to 40kv for the burning water expariments.
~Russ
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I would be willing to make it. A few members in Tony woodsides group were discussing the 6 coil Vic. I think Tony has actually replicated one but I am unsure what his results. Would you have to have a multi tapped coil to have a variable voltage. Do you already have a Vic thread.
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VIC Thread!!
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=119(http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=119)
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Complete Box
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG080.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG084.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG085.jpg)
Updated Files... Changes to Inverter chip
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch)
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb)
Use ExpressPCB to print out boards
Related Files
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/)
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Complete Box
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG080.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG084.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG085.jpg)
Updated Files... Changes to Inverter chip
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch)
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb)
Use ExpressPCB to print out boards
Related Files
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/)
now. how is the progress? are you happy with it?
whats the update????
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Russ
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Complete Box
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG080.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG084.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG085.jpg)
Updated Files... Changes to Inverter chip
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch)
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb)
Use ExpressPCB to print out boards
Related Files
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/)
now. how is the progress? are you happy with it?
whats the update????
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Russ
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Complete Box
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG080.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG084.jpg)
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG085.jpg)
Updated Files... Changes to Inverter chip
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch)
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb)
Use ExpressPCB to print out boards
Related Files
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/)
now. how is the progress? are you happy with it?
whats the update????
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Russ
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[/quote]Thank everyone! you are awesome!i have not much idea about electronics but i´ll try to replicate it to drive my stan´s cell replication. Thanks from spain!![/quote]indeed! welcome to the forms!
~Russ
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some fine work Kevin!
now. how is the progress? are you happy with it?
whats the update????
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Russ
Changes: I had to re route the output signal so it wasn't going threw the inverter. It seems to have worked both ways, so I made the board easy to change. You just cutt a trace and connect to the inverter, Once we build one or two more we'll know for sure. I marked the trace in purple on the board im sending you.
Thanks,
Kevin
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some fine work Kevin!
now. how is the progress? are you happy with it?
whats the update????
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Russ
Changes: I had to re route the output signal so it wasn't going threw the inverter. It seems to have worked both ways, so I made the board easy to change. You just cutt a trace and connect to the inverter, Once we build one or two more we'll know for sure. I marked the trace in purple on the board im sending you.
Thanks,
Kevin
I´m happy to hear that! you are doing a great job!congratulations!
I´d love to use your circuit to drive a toroidal vic transformer that i´m building. could you share with us the final schematic?i´d really apreciatte it!
I´ll share my results driving my replication of stan´s cell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSrPOFFFEnc
It´s 20 amps 12v brute force for now
I also have a 1.3 hyundai engine only for testing with hho but my knowlegde of electronics is not the best,i´m actually an spanish mechanic.
Thanks,
Ander
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Nice Cell Muxar, Here you go... Everything is here
Up to date Files...
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%2040.5.sch)
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/Rustic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%2040.5.pcb)
Use ExpressPCB to view files and print out boards
http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm(http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm)
(No Mac Version)
Related Files
http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/)[/quote]
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Alguien habla español???
Hola, hace un tiempo vengo experimentando con HHO y las patentes de Stanley Meyer, quisiera hacer algunas preguntas antes de replicar el circuito electronico de Russtic.
mi ingles es muy malo y la traduccion de Google no se adapta al ingles tecnico.
disculpen las molestias.
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Alguien habla español???
Hola, hace un tiempo vengo experimentando con HHO y las patentes de Stanley Meyer, quisiera hacer algunas preguntas antes de replicar el circuito electronico de Russtic.
mi ingles es muy malo y la traduccion de Google no se adapta al ingles tecnico.
disculpen las molestias.
Translation:
Anyone speak Spanish???
Hello, I came some time experimenting with and HHO Stanley Meyer patents, I would like to ask some questions before replying Russtic Electronic circuit.
my English is very bad and the translation of Google is not adapted to technical English.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
I was able to translate with google translator. If you can translate into english someone here might be able to help you...
Lo sentimos, no hablo español.
Yo era capaz de traducir con el traductor google. Si alguien puede traducir en Inglés aquí podría ser capaz de ayudarle ...
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Alguien habla español???
Hola, hace un tiempo vengo experimentando con HHO y las patentes de Stanley Meyer, quisiera hacer algunas preguntas antes de replicar el circuito electronico de Russtic.
mi ingles es muy malo y la traduccion de Google no se adapta al ingles tecnico.
disculpen las molestias.
Un saludo.
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Alguien habla español???
Hola, hace un tiempo vengo experimentando con HHO y las patentes de Stanley Meyer, quisiera hacer algunas preguntas antes de replicar el circuito electronico de Russtic.
mi ingles es muy malo y la traduccion de Google no se adapta al ingles tecnico.
disculpen las molestias.
Un saludo.
thanks, ~Russ
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Gracias,
en mi ciudad no consigo el TLP250, puedo reemplazarlo por H11D1 o 4N35.
Como reacondicionaria el circuito?
Saludos
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Gracias,
en mi ciudad no consigo el TLP250, puedo reemplazarlo por H11D1 o 4N35.
Como reacondicionaria el circuito?
Saludos
Me temo que a mi me queda un poco grande la pregunta :(
Russ: Pedro can´t get the TLP250,he is only able to get the H11D1 or 4N35...do you know witch would be the diference for the circuit?
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Gracias,
en mi ciudad no consigo el TLP250, puedo reemplazarlo por H11D1 o 4N35.
Como reacondicionaria el circuito?
Saludos
Me temo que a mi me queda un poco grande la pregunta :(
Russ: Pedro can´t get the TLP250,he is only able to get the H11D1 or 4N35...do you know witch would be the difference for the circuit?
try here? http://www.findchips.com/ref/TLP250(http://www.findchips.com/ref/TLP250)
my bust guess is no, it will not work correctly.
the TLP250 is a mosfet driver and the H11D1 and 4n35 are optoisolaters.
keep looking for the TLP250!
~Russ
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Gracias,
en mi ciudad no consigo el TLP250, puedo reemplazarlo por H11D1 o 4N35.
Como reacondicionaria el circuito?
Saludos
Dice Russ que el TLP250 es un mosfet y los otros son optoisoladores o como se llame en español,vamos,que tienes que conseguir ese mosfet como sea,yo no he tenio ningun problema a nivel de españa para conseguir todos los componentes desde http://es.rs-online.com/web/
El sugiere que mires en esta direccion:
http://www.findchips.com/ref/TLP250
Un saludo
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Hola,
gracias Muxar y Russ, perdonen las molestias
el TLP250 es el optoacoplador (no consigo) en Santa Fe - Argentina
el IRFP250 es el mosfet (si lo tengo en mi casa)
el optoacoplador cuesta 2 dolares y traerlo a mi casa 40 dolares, sigo buscando a ver si en Bs. As. se consigue.
saludos
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There will be modification to the designs in a few days
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First look at Russ' addition to the Output Circuit. Great addition Russ... Brilliant mind!!
Also here is Stan's pulsing box (Bottom Black Box)... It seems that he uses the same circuit to pulse the L.E.D's, H.V. Coils, Cavity, and Cell
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First look at Russ' addition to the Output Circuit. Great addition Russ... Brilliant mind!!
Also here is Stan's pulsing box (Bottom Black Box)... It seems that he uses the same circuit to pulse the L.E.D's, H.V. Coils, Cavity, and Cell
What will be the diference for the circuit with that modifications? is it not working properly the last design?
Thanks!
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First look at Russ' addition to the Output Circuit. Great addition Russ... Brilliant mind!!
Also here is Stan's pulsing box (Bottom Black Box)... It seems that he uses the same circuit to pulse the L.E.D's, H.V. Coils, Cavity, and Cell
What will be the diference for the circuit with that modifications? is it not working properly the last design?
Thanks!
The last design should work properly, but now with a isolated power supply to the TLP250 we have less chance of frying chips, russ has had problems with this in the past. The upgrade also lets us use the gating side as a second frequency generating output. And the other option we added was to switch between inverted and non-inverted signal.
I will be designing a new board and also an upgrade board incase anyone has already built the circuit
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Hi Russ, very nice job!!! I like you stile of work. Praise from Russia and Czech.
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Hi Russtic, how about that:
Your Frequency Generator + (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OliFeiaVIIw&feature=related) = :D
What are you thinking about that?
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Hi Russtic, how about that:
Your Frequency Generator + (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OliFeiaVIIw&feature=related) = :D
What are you thinking about that?
also I thought a bout PC signal generates and such.
One thing I believe is that a Micro possessor is good but on the other hand i also agree that a simple oscillator is the best as it can freely oscillate and such thus the circuit me and Kevin have been working on is kinda between.
Also I believe in your email that you want to work with the schematic on multisim and lab viewer, this is open source! so defiantly! the only thing i ask is to leave the names and such posted on the schematic if you re-release and just add your name to it or what ever but do post your work back here for all to see!
the new schematic is all most done. Just going over some small things.
post soon! hear hear! to all! Blessings!
~Russ
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Hi Russtic, how about that:
Your Frequency Generator + (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OliFeiaVIIw&feature=related) = :D
What are you thinking about that?
also I thought a bout PC signal generates and such.
One thing I believe is that a Micro possessor is good but on the other hand i also agree that a simple oscillator is the best as it can freely oscillate and such thus the circuit me and Kevin have been working on is kinda between.
Also I believe in your email that you want to work with the schematic on multisim and lab viewer, this is open source! so defiantly! the only thing i ask is to leave the names and such posted on the schematic if you re-release and just add your name to it or what ever but do post your work back here for all to see!
the new schematic is all most done. Just going over some small things.
post soon! hear hear! to all! Blessings!
~Russ
Now I live in new flat and non¨t have currently no instruments. i will do it from begin.
Kravtsoft
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Hi Russtic, how about that:
Your Frequency Generator + (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OliFeiaVIIw&feature=related) = :D
What are you thinking about that?
also I thought a bout PC signal generates and such.
One thing I believe is that a Micro possessor is good but on the other hand i also agree that a simple oscillator is the best as it can freely oscillate and such thus the circuit me and Kevin have been working on is kinda between.
Also I believe in your email that you want to work with the schematic on multisim and lab viewer, this is open source! so defiantly! the only thing i ask is to leave the names and such posted on the schematic if you re-release and just add your name to it or what ever but do post your work back here for all to see!
the new schematic is all most done. Just going over some small things.
post soon! hear hear! to all! Blessings!
~Russ
Now I live in new flat and non¨t have currently no instruments. i will do it from begin.
Kravtsoft
The new one is a lot more stuff going on as there are a lot of switched for options and such.
really its also for the EEC circuit and HGG as well all in one package.
thanks! have fun! ~Russ
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Updated schematics
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beat me to it! lol good work testing Kevin and good work me for schematic changes! yeah team work! lol
PCB on out way!
PS, got some stuff done on the first gen!
thanks for the dedication!
~Russ
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I have been thinking a lot of the same things.
Can't wait for pcb!
(Even though I am scrapping the board I was doing, this is way cooler!)
Also the original resonant cell.. could it work like a rubber mounted glockenspiel/xylophone or wind chime/tuning fork?
meaning a sustained tone/vibration with one tap.
The original, looks like it has springs on the metal caps or terminals,(or are they just screws) thus springs would not dampen the vibration too much but still be contact points!
The metal could be tuned for precision, maybe, if even needed.
just got me thinking, why they were so small,..= high frequency.
Russ I have a re drawing of the alternator card both sides, I did it for fun from the photos, maybe it will help someone.
Thanks Rockstars, Russ and Kevin
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I have been thinking a lot of the same things.
Can't wait for pcb!
(Even though I am scrapping the board I was doing, this is way cooler!)
Also the original resonant cell.. could it work like a rubber mounted glockenspiel/xylophone or wind chime/tuning fork?
meaning a sustained tone/vibration with one tap.
The original, looks like it has springs on the metal caps or terminals,(or are they just screws) thus springs would not dampen the vibration too much but still be contact points!
The metal could be tuned for precision, maybe, if even needed.
just got me thinking, why they were so small,..= high frequency.
Russ I have a re drawing of the alternator card both sides, I did it for fun from the photos, maybe it will help someone.
Thanks Rockstars, Russ and Kevin
also even though there is a new Version... im still building the first version. as the new one will just run the HGG if it all works, and the old one can be used for the Cell. now, this is all just for testing. this circuit is maid for testing the frequency and such but we all got to start some where!
good stuff!
also, i think the springs are for contact and they are that way so the seal will be tight where the outer o-ring seals the cavity... the reason i say this i that the outer tube is held in place the full length of the by the derlyn plastic.
but this is some good thoughts. i believe you can amplify the effect as you are saying but the electrical resonances will also resonate the tubes in a physical Mainer.
none the less Google "Wave Guide" this is what Stan was doing with his tubes... standing waives,
you have some good thoughts ! keep it up!
looking forward to seeing your rustic box! :)
PS. Stans circuit was in the 0-20khz range... not high frequency, just an interesting thought.
~Russ
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First look at Russ' addition to the Output Circuit. Great addition Russ... Brilliant mind!!
Also here is Stan's pulsing box (Bottom Black Box)... It seems that he uses the same circuit to pulse the L.E.D's, H.V. Coils, Cavity, and Cell
hoping for a water car soon
rgds paul
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Russ said: Google "Wave Guide" this is what Stan was doing with his tubes... standing waves,
you have some good thoughts ! keep it up!
looking forward to seeing your rustic box! :)
Thank you for the kind words,
Looks like I'll need a big Box.,(2 variacs right?, $ cha-ching, ouch),LOL
I will call it a Russtic in honor of your hard work,resourcefulness, and heart of a lion.
Funny The wave guide, I researched when I heard the term in a video, and saw the quenching tube then basically researched "hollow fiber optics, and found "wave guide" because the fuel line would be full of light! (2 for1, KISS)
I had a palmtree fiber optic light, when I was a kid, thought it was hollow.
I make fast associations with things like that, even if off base a bit.
I did google it today and learned some stuff, as I do everyday for fun.
To all, Keep it open and fun please.
PS, Stan was a KISS fan! Ha Ha.
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First look at Russ' addition to the Output Circuit. Great addition Russ... Brilliant mind!!
Also here is Stan's pulsing box (Bottom Black Box)... It seems that he uses the same circuit to pulse the L.E.D's, H.V. Coils, Cavity, and Cell
hoping for a water car soon
rgds paul
I'm thinking the Advanced PCB should be done tomorrow night or so... When that is complete, I am going to design a basic board for those that want a single freq gen for pulsing a cell.
Although the one Russ just built will work (See video), I recommend waiting for the new basic PCB board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMU8MWoDuvs&feature=channel_video_title
Goodnight everyone,
Kevin
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Update, Basic schematics are almost complete :)
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First look at Russ' addition to the Output Circuit. Great addition Russ... Brilliant mind!!
Also here is Stan's pulsing box (Bottom Black Box)... It seems that he uses the same circuit to pulse the L.E.D's, H.V. Coils, Cavity, and Cell
hoping for a water car soon
rgds paul
I'm thinking the Advanced PCB should be done tomorrow night or so... When that is complete, I am going to design a basic board for those that want a single freq gen for pulsing a cell.
Although the one Russ just built will work (See video), I recommend waiting for the new basic PCB board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMU8MWoDuvs&feature=channel_video_title
Goodnight everyone,
Kevin
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Update, Basic schematics are almost complete :)
the advanced one will be the 6.12 we are building now.
and that's it...
Thoughts?
PS like the new layout. put the irfp's further apart (atleast 10 "dots" on the pbc program) also do ground the irfp!
~Russ
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are the new boards with the EEC connection going to be in the shops in time for christmas?
i want one!
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are the new boards with the EEC connection going to be in the shops in time for christmas?
i want one!
!
~Russ
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First look at Russ' addition to the Output Circuit. Great addition Russ... Brilliant mind!!
Also here is Stan's pulsing box (Bottom Black Box)... It seems that he uses the same circuit to pulse the L.E.D's, H.V. Coils, Cavity, and Cell
hoping for a water car soon
rgds paul
I'm thinking the Advanced PCB should be done tomorrow night or so... When that is complete, I am going to design a basic board for those that want a single freq gen for pulsing a cell.
Although the one Russ just built will work (See video), I recommend waiting for the new basic PCB board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMU8MWoDuvs&feature=channel_video_title
Goodnight everyone,
Kevin
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Update, Basic schematics are almost complete :)
the advanced one will be the 6.12 we are building now.
and that's it...
Thoughts?
PS like the new layout. put the irfp's further apart (atleast 10 "dots" on the pbc program) also do ground the irfp!
~Russ
My next though is someone needs to make that online parts list you were talking about. Your recomendation was digikey.com right? This way someone can go to Digikey website and buy all the parts in one shot
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hello everyone, here is an update. i added a volt and amp meter and some notes to this schematic.
also uploading a new vid of the finished russtic 4.5 complete box. ill post as soon at its uploaded.
thanks, ~Russ
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hello everyone, here is an update. i added a volt and amp meter and some notes to this schematic.
also uploading a new vid of the finished russtic 4.5 complete box. ill post ass soon at its uploaded.
thanks, ~Russ
The PCB design is almost complete as well.
Here is a sneak peak at the uncompleted board
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Russtic 4.5 done and working well!!!
A Note To those who are building this version please ground your IRFP mosfet to the Ground on the Circuit Board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82e1ICCXLU
enjoy, ~Russ
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hello everyone, here is an update. i added a volt and amp meter and some notes to this schematic.
also uploading a new vid of the finished russtic 4.5 complete box. ill post ass soon at its uploaded.
thanks, ~Russ
The PCB design is almost complete as well.
Here is a sneak peak at the uncompleted board
gracias
Hello, very good job, files can be parsed .sch and circuit .pcb PCB to show in the file. jpg attachment.
thanks
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Russtic 4.5 done and working well!!!
A Note To those who are building this version please ground your IRFP mosfet to the Ground on the Circuit Board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82e1ICCXLU
enjoy, ~Russ
Some good beats and rhythm going there, that is music to my ears. You should really consider quiting your day job and becoming a DJ ;) That is totally awesome! Good work.
Scott
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Russtic 4.5 done and working well!!!
A Note To those who are building this version please ground your IRFP mosfet to the Ground on the Circuit Board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82e1ICCXLU
enjoy, ~Russ
thanks for all you do for us peter
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Russtic 4.5 done and working well!!!
A Note To those who are building this version please ground your IRFP mosfet to the Ground on the Circuit Board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82e1ICCXLU
enjoy, ~Russ
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Buenas Pedro,el pcb del ultimo diseño no ha sido terminado todavia pero el del video que russ acaba de colgar lo tienen puesto desde hace tiempo,tienes todos los datos necesarios para hacer la replica del video.
Hello Pedro, the pcb of the last schematic is not finished yet but you have all the info in this forum to replicate the one Russ posted.hello everyone, here is an update. i added a volt and amp meter and some notes to this schematic.
also uploading a new vid of the finished russtic 4.5 complete box. ill post ass soon at its uploaded.
thanks, ~Russ
The PCB design is almost complete as well.
Here is a sneak peak at the uncompleted board
gracias
Hello, very good job, files can be parsed .sch and circuit .pcb PCB to show in the file. jpg attachment.
thanks
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ALL,
Here is all the links to files for the Rustic Frequency Gen. 4.5
A Note To those who are building this version please ground your IRFP mosfet to the Ground on the Circuit Board.
The PCB is 4.5 and the Schematic is 4.2 but as long as everything is in the 4.XX its fine.
here is the PCB: http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%20IMG%204.5.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%20IMG%204.5.jpg)
here is the .pcb file, you will need this to print out the PCB to the proper size : http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%204.5.pcb(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20PCB%204.5.pcb)
you will need the PCB software to do this, here: http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm(http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm)
Here is the Schematic: http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%204.6.bmp(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic%20Freq%20Gen%20w%20Gating%20SCH%204.6.bmp)
Please note the Jumpers that must be installed for this Circuit to work! There not labeled on the PCB. i will update this as soon as i can untill then here is a photo of the jumpers installed:
(http://www.enhancedliving.ca/files/russtic/IMG074.jpg)
This test box is designed to test the Stan Meyer's resonant WFC. but it is also a good test box for Manny other applications.
for those who did not see this yet, here is the generator in action!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82e1ICCXLU
Thanks to all for the support and to Kevin who has been a huge part of this build!
god bless! ~Russ
GO HIT SOME RESONANCE!
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[/quote]Hi Russ, I just bought a new scope like yours a few mounts back, have not used it yet, mainly because I don't know how :blush: :D :huh: . but I'll learn. Say if you make a video using your scope, Could you show how you connected the scope to your new Russtic circuit, just so I don't blow mine up, :angel: good job on the circuit by the way :cool::cool: Kevin and Russ you guy's are top notch, Thanks.[/quote]i know how ya feel!
basically just connect the ground (Small black lead with alagater clip) to the ground of the circuit, then start pokeing around with the probe...
then play with the settings on the scope.
( i don't recommended you do this unless you know what your doing) but i like to hold the probe and touch the circuit! lol so cool how the signal travails right threw you... ( low voltage circuits only please!!!! lol)
ummm, not much else to show you.
let me know if i get some time i will try to make a demo but i think there are some already out there and probably a lot better! lol
~Russ
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Buenas Pedro,el pcb del ultimo diseño no ha sido terminado todavia pero el del video que russ acaba de colgar lo tienen puesto desde hace tiempo,tienes todos los datos necesarios para hacer la replica del video.
Hello Pedro, the pcb of the last schematic is not finished yet but you have all the info in this forum to replicate the one Russ posted.hello everyone, here is an update. i added a volt and amp meter and some notes to this schematic.
also uploading a new vid of the finished russtic 4.5 complete box. ill post ass soon at its uploaded.
thanks, ~Russ
The PCB design is almost complete as well.
Here is a sneak peak at the uncompleted board
gracias
Hello, very good job, files can be parsed .sch and circuit .pcb PCB to show in the file. jpg attachment.
thanks
estoy armando el circuito de la version 4.2, despues subo fotos
un abrazo a la distancia
Thank you,
I'm putting together the circuit of version 4.2, then upload photos
a hug from a distance
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Russ,
Can you speak to how the Rustic device will be used, what supporting equipment to power the resonator?
Do you plan to drive a separate device such as the VIC circuit with the VIC coil arrangement to the resonator or go directly into the resonator?
Also do you feel it will be a good standalone PWM or would it need to drive a larger external mosfet setup in order to work well with a large dry plate cell configuration? Do you think that you can hit resonance with a plate dry cell?
Do you think that we can hit resonance with a 25 plate style dry cell?
Thanks,
Rolin
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Russ,
Can you speak to how the Rustic device will be used, what supporting equipment to power the resonator?
Do you plan to drive a separate device such as the VIC circuit with the VIC coil arrangement to the resonator or go directly into the resonator?
Also do you feel it will be a good standalone PWM or would it need to drive a larger external mosfet setup in order to work well with a large dry plate cell configuration? Do you think that you can hit resonance with a plate dry cell?
Do you think that we can hit resonance with a 25 plate style dry cell?
Thanks,
Rolin
This dose not have feed back or any other PLL circuitry. This I merely to be use with testing.
There will be an external battery that will power the VIC, although I may add some circuits so we can power it with the wall power. as Stan did this and used a variac with some bridge rectifiers and caps… but a battery would be less components, I would like to be able to have some varied output voltage tough. But this circuit is the basic signal to be created that Stan talks about…
The IRFP260 should handle 50 amps with a good heat sink and such but I would keep it under 25 amps or so. You can parallel 2 irfp’s if you want. This will up the amps.
The resonant action all depends on the VIC and cell. With all the deferent arrangements with a dry cell it would be hard I believe to hit resonates. Not to say it could not be done, its just a lot harder, to many variables.
You could use this with any cell/vic. To get things working like stan, you will need to understand all the science behind resonance. You will need inductors (VIC) and a “CAP” style cell. Its all complicated and I don’t even know how to calculate it. Kind of confusing. Haven’t studded up on that much. Need to.
Hope it helps!
~Russ
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Repost:
Version 6.6 new circuit almost completed testing... Released very soon!!
PCB 6.6 Build 1.jpg
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%201.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%201.jpg)
PCB 6.6 Build 2.jpg
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%202.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%202.jpg)
PCB 6.6 Build 3.jpg
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%203.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%203.jpg)
PCB 6.6 Build 4.jpg
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%204.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB%206.6%20Build%204.jpg)
Thanks for watchin :)
Kevin
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Buenas Pedro,el pcb del ultimo diseño no ha sido terminado todavia pero el del video que russ acaba de colgar lo tienen puesto desde hace tiempo,tienes todos los datos necesarios para hacer la replica del video.
Hello Pedro, the pcb of the last schematic is not finished yet but you have all the info in this forum to replicate the one Russ posted.hello everyone, here is an update. i added a volt and amp meter and some notes to this schematic.
also uploading a new vid of the finished russtic 4.5 complete box. ill post ass soon at its uploaded.
thanks, ~Russ
The PCB design is almost complete as well.
Here is a sneak peak at the uncompleted board
gracias
Hello, very good job, files can be parsed .sch and circuit .pcb PCB to show in the file. jpg attachment.
thanks
estoy armando el circuito de la version 4.2, despues subo fotos
un abrazo a la distancia
Thank you,
I'm putting together the circuit of version 4.2, then upload photos
a hug from a distance
Big Hugs! and blessings!
~Russ
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Russtic 4.5 done and working well!!!
A Note To those who are building this version please ground your IRFP mosfet to the Ground on the Circuit Board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82e1ICCXLU
enjoy, ~Russ
thanks for all you do for us peter
the first one is Inverted Gating (yellow) next to non inverted gating (Green), Yellow trace is before TLP250 and the Green trace at Mosfet Drain.
Inverted yellow green standard(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/Inverted%20Gating%20_%20Yellow%20before%20TLP%20Green%20at%20Mosfet%20Drain.jpg)
This one is inverted Gating (yellow and green), yellow trace is before TLP and the Green trace is After the TLP250.
non inverting(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/Inverted%20Gating%20_%20yellow%20before%20TLP%20and%20Green%20After%20TLP.jpg)
hope this helps. i will make a nice video once all the stuff in done so you can really get a good idea of what is happening.
thanks!
~Russ
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OFFICIAL RELEASE OF RUSSTIC WFC FREQ GEN V7.0
Schematic V7.0:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20SCH%20V7.0.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20SCH%20V7.0.jpg)
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic WFC Freq Gen SCH V7.0.sch(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic WFC Freq Gen SCH V7.0.sch)
PCB Board V7.0:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20PCB%20V7.0.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20PCB%20V7.0.jpg)
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic WFC Freq Gen PCB V7.0.pcb(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic WFC Freq Gen PCB V7.0.pcb)
Download Express PCB to use .PCB and .SCH file extentions (PC Only)
http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm(http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm)
Check your IC Chip Numbers to see if they have been tested:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/Tested%20IC%20chips.txt(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/Tested%20IC%20chips.txt)
Find all Related Files and Pictures Here:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/)
Old Version 4.0 PCB and SCH
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic WFC Freq Gen SCH V4.0.sch(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic WFC Freq Gen SCH V4.0.sch)
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic WFC Freq Gen PCB V4.0.pcb(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic WFC Freq Gen PCB V4.0.pcb)
I am currently calculating a parts price list... Etched PCB boards are available to purchase immediately, msg me for details.
If you have any questions or need help trouble shooting feel free to send me a private message.
A Huge Thanks to everyone who contributed to this project.
Kevin
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OFFICIAL RELEASE OF RUSSTIC WFC FREQ GEN V7.0
Schematic:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20SCH%20V7.0.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20SCH%20V7.0.jpg)
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic WFC Freq Gen SCH V7.0.sch(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/SCH/Russtic WFC Freq Gen SCH V7.0.sch)
PCB Board:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20PCB%20V7.0.jpg(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic%20WFC%20Freq%20Gen%20PCB%20V7.0.jpg)
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic WFC Freq Gen PCB V7.0.pcb(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/PCB/Russtic WFC Freq Gen PCB V7.0.pcb)
Download Express PCB to use .PCB and .SCH file extentions (PC Only)
http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm(http://www.expresspcb.com/ExpressPCBHtm/Download.htm)
Check your IC Chip Numbers to see if they have been tested:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/Tested%20IC%20chips.txt(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/Tested%20IC%20chips.txt)
Find all Related Files and Pictures Here:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/(http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/russtic_testfiles/)
I am currently calculating a parts price list... Etched PCB boards are available to purchase immediately, msg me for details.
If you have any questions or need help trouble shooting feel free to send me a private message.
A Huge Thanks to everyone who contributed to this project.
Kevin
Nate
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A new Thread has been started "Building The Russtic WFC Freq Gen V7.0"
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178(http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178)
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Russ can you post a Parts list?
and or Gerber file format
as it helps other get involved faster
Dan
That way can can get others trailing
more with with it , .
Me I am trying to learn audrino now
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Russ can you post a Parts list?
and or Gerber file format
as it helps other get involved faster
Dan
That way can can get others trailing
more with with it , .
Me I am trying to learn audrino now
Everything you need is right here:
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178(http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=178)