UPDATE on Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe

[Jeff Nading]

This is from Keshe's forum where he just wrote a clarification on the upcoming release of his technology, here is what he posted:

In response to all who have been posting the misinformation about the 6.9 presentation.

We repeat again for all to understand the purpose of this meeting.

The purpose of this meeting is not to handover the technology to no government or individual. But to inform the governments what new technology the world citizens will receive from the foundation to dictate their own lives course of action in the coming month that governments are ready for the change.

As if your governments are not ready for such a change, then all of you will be running for your lives as there are those who are waiting to abuse it, due to your governments lack of information.

Thus: those who keep on calling for not to give the technology to no governments are those whom are the real enemies of free speech as by their falls shout, they try to cause mayhem for the others not to receive what is theirs.

We hope that we have cleared this point for once and for all.

This is huge, all along we thought he was going to give it to the governments, but no he in fact "is" giving it to the world.

[TinMan]

Hi Jeff
And thanks for posting on our forum the updated new,s-it has indeed got the conversations flowing lol.But as you would know-not all agree on all thing's-but for the most of us-please keep posting.
Here is something we found on the links you provided,and was wondering if you know of this?

With the presidential decree signed into law by President Obama early this week, the use by other governments of the space technologies developed by the Keshe Foundation and others similar has now become a criminal offence.

This means that from this week scientists cannot release their technology to the public or to any governments any more unless it is for use in war and beneficial to Western arms manufacturing nations.

We do not accept such a castration of science and we ask the United States of America's government for clarification of this decree by the White House.

Is this law to silence the Keshe Foundation and other research organizations, or can American bring pressure so that only their technology can be accepted throughout the world?

This presidential decree is against international scientific freedom for development, research and information sharing and this is a gagging order on scientific organizations like ours.

This just takes the cake -dosnt it lol
Keep up the good work Jeff

[Jeff Nading]

(08-11-2012 07:51 AM)TinMan Wrote:  Hi Jeff
And thanks for posting on our forum the updated new,s-it has indeed got the conversations flowing lol.But as you would know-not all agree on all thing's-but for the most of us-please keep posting.
Here is something we found on the links you provided,and was wondering if you know of this?

With the presidential decree signed into law by President Obama early this week, the use by other governments of the space technologies developed by the Keshe Foundation and others similar has now become a criminal offence.

This means that from this week scientists cannot release their technology to the public or to any governments any more unless it is for use in war and beneficial to Western arms manufacturing nations.

We do not accept such a castration of science and we ask the United States of America's government for clarification of this decree by the White House.

Is this law to silence the Keshe Foundation and other research organizations, or can American bring pressure so that only their technology can be accepted throughout the world?

This presidential decree is against international scientific freedom for development, research and information sharing and this is a gagging order on scientific organizations like ours.

This just takes the cake -dosnt it lol
Keep up the good work Jeff

Thanks Brad, and yes I knew of this and sorry I did not post it early on, I knew it would cause some turmoil. My sister who works for the foreign service and is now in "Baghdad", I had asked if she knew of Keshe, she said yes but would not say another word about it, I thought that to be very interesting. To, the fact that the gagging order has been put in place, really shows me that Keshe's technology is viable and real. September is close approaching and we will soon find out for sure. Also have you noticed in the last 6 months there has been a multitude of free energy devises that have come to light and are going to be manufactured by the end of this year, exciting times we are living in to see all of this unfold, thanks again Brad, Jeff.

[TinMan]

Yes i have seen a lot of new stuff comeing out.I think the downfall of the big oils is close.Power to us all in equal ammounts.

[WillyWatts]

eek! - I have always found, whatever new invention or technology comes about, it always ends up in weapons. OK so let me get this straight:

"This means that from this week scientists cannot release their technology to the public or to any governments any more unless it is for use in war and beneficial to Western arms manufacturing nations."

Is this true?? Is there a government (US) website that declares that as fact? I am astonished if true. I wonder how far we have got with this in the UK.

[Jeff Nading]

(08-13-2012 09:03 AM)WillyWatts Wrote:  eek! - I have always found, whatever new invention or technology comes about, it always ends up in weapons. OK so let me get this straight:

"This means that from this week scientists cannot release their technology to the public or to any governments any more unless it is for use in war and beneficial to Western arms manufacturing nations."

Is this true?? Is there a government (US) website that declares that as fact? I am astonished if true. I wonder how far we have got with this in the UK.

You might want to see what all the hub-bub is about here
http://iaec.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=722
what Tinman and others are saying about it all.

[WillyWatts]

I have done tech in defense contractors, "ITAR" is common, I wonder if this is what is being referred to. Here's a webby: http://pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws...icial.html
The kit we were designing were NOT weapons but comms systems, but ITAR still applied to us in the UK.

But this looks closer to the subject:

EAR [15 CFR 730-774]

Regulates items designed for commercial purpose which could have military applications such as computers or software.

Covers both the goods and the technology.

Licensing addresses competing interests and foreign availability.

Combines commercial and research objectives with national security.

[Jeff Nading]

(08-14-2012 02:33 AM)WillyWatts Wrote:  I have done tech in defense contractors, "ITAR" is common, I wonder if this is what is being referred to. Here's a webby: http://pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws...icial.html
The kit we were designing were NOT weapons but comms systems, but ITAR still applied to us in the UK.

But this looks closer to the subject:

EAR [15 CFR 730-774]

Regulates items designed for commercial purpose which could have military applications such as computers or software.

Covers both the goods and the technology.

Licensing addresses competing interests and foreign availability.

Combines commercial and research objectives with national security.

They have tied it up in a nice little bow, so we could not build Keshe's devise.

[raburgeson]

China and India are certainly going to use this. Obama's penmanship means nothing to them. You shouldn't get upset so fast. The United States will take a back seat until it's crushed under the rest of the worlds boot heel. He literally has no choice but to embrace the new technology. Of course the United States is hiding better forms energy production but, this will give the world the scientific leap it needs. We can end our polluting ways and clean the earth. Obama simply can't and in the end won't keep this technology from us if the rest of the world has it. Oil companies is just the start, the end to big energy altogether.

[Jeff Nading]

(08-24-2012 03:50 AM)raburgeson Wrote:  China and India are certainly going to use this. Obama's penmanship means nothing to them. You shouldn't get upset so fast. The United States will take a back seat until it's crushed under the rest of the worlds boot heel. He literally has no choice but to embrace the new technology. Of course the United States is hiding better forms energy production but, this will give the world the scientific leap it needs. We can end our polluting ways and clean the earth. Obama simply can't and in the end won't keep this technology from us if the rest of the world has it. Oil companies is just the start, the end to big energy altogether.

I agree, if just one or two countries have the technology, it will upset the balance of power, then the US will be forced to change. It's going to take a while for that to happen though.

[geert8550]

(08-24-2012 06:58 AM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 03:50 AM)raburgeson Wrote:  China and India are certainly going to use this. Obama's penmanship means nothing to them. You shouldn't get upset so fast. The United States will take a back seat until it's crushed under the rest of the worlds boot heel. He literally has no choice but to embrace the new technology. Of course the United States is hiding better forms energy production but, this will give the world the scientific leap it needs. We can end our polluting ways and clean the earth. Obama simply can't and in the end won't keep this technology from us if the rest of the world has it. Oil companies is just the start, the end to big energy altogether.

I agree, if just one or two countries have the technology, it will upset the balance of power, then the US will be forced to change. It's going to take a while for that to happen though.

Iran will not worry about it, they own and control the technology already. The technology makes their national borders impervious to missiles, aircraft, radar and other known technologies. If this is completely public, other countries will follow automatically. Would the USA do not cooperate then that's their problem. NASA follows the web site on foot through other channels not to impress that it is interesting. If I, as an ordinary citizen the patents can study and understand a 3D model to design and describe how it should work, then people with a scientific education can do that too. People like us, through open source, make the difference as Russ already mentioned.

Geert

[~Russ/Rwg42985]

(08-25-2012 06:57 AM)geert8550 Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 06:58 AM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 03:50 AM)raburgeson Wrote:  China and India are certainly going to use this. Obama's penmanship means nothing to them. You shouldn't get upset so fast. The United States will take a back seat until it's crushed under the rest of the worlds boot heel. He literally has no choice but to embrace the new technology. Of course the United States is hiding better forms energy production but, this will give the world the scientific leap it needs. We can end our polluting ways and clean the earth. Obama simply can't and in the end won't keep this technology from us if the rest of the world has it. Oil companies is just the start, the end to big energy altogether.

I agree, if just one or two countries have the technology, it will upset the balance of power, then the US will be forced to change. It's going to take a while for that to happen though.

Iran will not worry about it, they own and control the technology already. The technology makes their national borders impervious to missiles, aircraft, radar and other known technologies. If this is completely public, other countries will follow automatically. Would the USA do not cooperate then that's their problem. NASA follows the web site on foot through other channels not to impress that it is interesting. If I, as an ordinary citizen the patents can study and understand a 3D model to design and describe how it should work, then people with a scientific education can do that too. People like us, through open source, make the difference as Russ already mentioned.

Geert

we are the change...

~Russ

[geert8550]

(08-25-2012 08:33 PM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 06:57 AM)geert8550 Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 06:58 AM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 03:50 AM)raburgeson Wrote:  China and India are certainly going to use this. Obama's penmanship means nothing to them. You shouldn't get upset so fast. The United States will take a back seat until it's crushed under the rest of the worlds boot heel. He literally has no choice but to embrace the new technology. Of course the United States is hiding better forms energy production but, this will give the world the scientific leap it needs. We can end our polluting ways and clean the earth. Obama simply can't and in the end won't keep this technology from us if the rest of the world has it. Oil companies is just the start, the end to big energy altogether.

I agree, if just one or two countries have the technology, it will upset the balance of power, then the US will be forced to change. It's going to take a while for that to happen though.

Iran will not worry about it, they own and control the technology already. The technology makes their national borders impervious to missiles, aircraft, radar and other known technologies. If this is completely public, other countries will follow automatically. Would the USA do not cooperate then that's their problem. NASA follows the web site on foot through other channels not to impress that it is interesting. If I, as an ordinary citizen the patents can study and understand a 3D model to design and describe how it should work, then people with a scientific education can do that too. People like us, through open source, make the difference as Russ already mentioned.

Geert

we are the change...

~Russ

... and with a litle help from the old continent ...

[firepinto]

[Jeff Nading]

(09-01-2012 08:33 PM)firepinto Wrote:  

Thanks Nate.

[Jeff Nading]

Well what did we all think the live broadcast of Keshe.

[firepinto]

(09-02-2012 03:34 PM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  

Well what did we all think the live broadcast of Keshe.

I wasn't able to watch the live show, and was only able to skip around watching the youtube video. I'm still unsure what to think. In the beginning of the video it sure seemed like keshe didn't want to be there, based on his body language. I'm not very fond of how he answers questions extreamly indirect or seems to be side stepping telling an unrelated story just as politicians are so good at doing. I'll just wait patiently for his release date to see what happens.

[Jeff Nading]

(09-03-2012 12:19 AM)firepinto Wrote:  

(09-02-2012 03:34 PM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  

Well what did we all think the live broadcast of Keshe.

I wasn't able to watch the live show, and was only able to skip around watching the youtube video. I'm still unsure what to think. In the beginning of the video it sure seemed like keshe didn't want to be there, based on his body language. I'm not very fond of how he answers questions extreamly indirect or seems to be side stepping telling an unrelated story just as politicians are so good at doing. I'll just wait patiently for his release date to see what happens.

Yes, I had gotten the same impression of him at first, but then later in the interview he stated that's why he is still alive, so I guess he is in fear of loosing his and his family's life. He also said that he would not show his devises publicly unless forced to, meaning war between Iran and whoever and that Iran would be the victor. If you have time watch the complete video, please do, he states much of what his devise's are capable of, for health as well. So like you said we'll just have to wait and see. I do think we will see something in the next year or so.

[Lynx]

Just finished downloading the whole thing, just in case it all the sudden went missing from Youtube
Let's just hope this ain't too good to be true..........
It would turn science fiction into science facts, the future would be here NOW, in our time.

[Lynx]

Big day today