Dielectric Clothing inside Water Fuel Cell?

[geenee]

Good discussion about dielectric property

http://www.overunity.com/9856/relative-p...-of-water/

geenee

[firepinto]

I have been thinking about how current flow might be restricted in the cell during my travels this week. The surface of the resonant cavity in the sparkplug injector is shown as having highly polished surfaces. In current wet or dry cell electrolysis designs most people sand the plates with a cross-hatch pattern. It is said that the ruff surface helps release the bubbles from the plates. This allows more surface area for standard electrolysis to occur. So what if, the polished surfaces are designed to capture the H and O gasses created by std electrolysis on their polorized tubes? On the H side you would have an electrical insulator the thickness of one hydrogen atom in theory. Same with the 0 side. With having a good gas layer insulation I would suppose this is when bubbles forming between the tubes would occur. With out having a surface to cling to the gasses combine with each other faster causing larger bubbles.

My road trip daydream for the week. . Think it would work?

Nate

[geenee]

Good information about dielectric property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_permittivity

dielectric constant of water(100%pure) is about 80(at 20*C ,78.54 at 25*C) (by definition of VACUUM = 1) 80X than Vacuum

dielectric constant is not OHMS VALUE,Stan said"78.54 ohms",it 's not true.

oxide layer is dielectric for WFC.

natural water is not dielectric.

positive side is + plates,negative side is natural water,dielectric layer is oxide layer.

oxide layer pic from http://www.ritalie.com

geenee

[Jeff Nading]

(06-27-2012 02:54 PM)firepinto Wrote:  I have been thinking about how current flow might be restricted in the cell during my travels this week. The surface of the resonant cavity in the sparkplug injector is shown as having highly polished surfaces. In current wet or dry cell electrolysis designs most people sand the plates with a cross-hatch pattern. It is said that the ruff surface helps release the bubbles from the plates. This allows more surface area for standard electrolysis to occur. So what if, the polished surfaces are designed to capture the H and O gasses created by std electrolysis on their polorized tubes? On the H side you would have an electrical insulator the thickness of one hydrogen atom in theory. Same with the 0 side. With having a good gas layer insulation I would suppose this is when bubbles forming between the tubes would occur. With out having a surface to cling to the gasses combine with each other faster causing larger bubbles.

My road trip daydream for the week. . Think it would work?

Nate

I think that is a good hypothesis Nate, sounds very reasonable to me.

[geenee]

good clip about electrostatic.





-electrical charge(from electric power) to particle(smoke,smaller than ion=air),cause particle maintain electrical charge.from clip,when shutdown the smoke maintain electrical charge then power ball foams can stick the wall.

thanks
geenee

[FaradayEZ]

Hi,

This about using AC over the DC in hydrogen producing cells

http://www.viewzone.com/verichipx.html


EZ