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 Real A/C from a Car Alternator
06-01-2012, 02:42 PM
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 Robert Twiss Member Posts: 53 Joined: May 2012 Reputation: 0
Real A/C from a Car Alternator
This has a lot to do with HHO.

It is my understanding that the way a car alternator is wound, 3 phase, that there is 3 leads, 1 neutral and two 7 volt, (approx.), A/C leads. This of course is converted to D/C.

Now considering that A/C step-up transformers are a breeze, it would only be logical to tap into it. It's been a while since I messed with electronics, and for the sake of simplifying this, let's say this we tap into this A/C voltage from the alternator and apply it to a microwave transformer, using 120 volts, the transformer puts out 2000 volts. So using 7 volts in the same transformer should produce 116-117 volts. I have no idea of amperage. Now 14 volts A/C would bring the voltage up to about 230.

I could be wrong here, but if I am not, I can't see that it would take to much effort for an alternator manufacturer to add an A/C clip to their alternators.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated.

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06-02-2012, 04:34 AM
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 ~Russ/Rwg42985 Administrator Posts: 1,755 Joined: Mar 2011 Reputation: 15
RE: Real A/C from a Car Alternator
(06-01-2012 02:42 PM)Robert Twiss Wrote:  This has a lot to do with HHO.

It is my understanding that the way a car alternator is wound, 3 phase, that there is 3 leads, 1 neutral and two 7 volt, (approx.), A/C leads. This of course is converted to D/C.

Now considering that A/C step-up transformers are a breeze, it would only be logical to tap into it. It's been a while since I messed with electronics, and for the sake of simplifying this, let's say this we tap into this A/C voltage from the alternator and apply it to a microwave transformer, using 120 volts, the transformer puts out 2000 volts. So using 7 volts in the same transformer should produce 116-117 volts. I have no idea of amperage. Now 14 volts A/C would bring the voltage up to about 230.

I could be wrong here, but if I am not, I can't see that it would take to much effort for an alternator manufacturer to add an A/C clip to their alternators.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated.

you will need to just think about the amperage's...

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06-02-2012, 04:55 AM
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 TeaJunky Junior Member Posts: 23 Joined: May 2012 Reputation: 0
RE: Real A/C from a Car Alternator
Hello Robert,you probally know this already so for the benifit of people reading who may be uncerting about it here goes. An alternator in a car is a smaller version of the alternator for generating power eg a mobile generator the difference is the car alternator has bridge rectification to get dc voltage from the ac output this is then regulated to give a constant output of 14v (depending on the regulator used) at any RPM once your charging light goes out in your dashboard. now on a mobile generator the ac output is regulated buy controlling the RPM of the engine the voltage reduces and increases with reductions and increases in the RPMs so a mobile generator has a fixed RPM for a fixed ac voltage. so if you wanted an additional 14v ac ouput terminal you would require some form of ac regulation to allow for the changes in the cars RPM there is alot of info on the web about voltage regulations. AC VOLTAGE BE CAREFULL
06-02-2012, 08:33 AM
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 wfchobby Junior Member Posts: 22 Joined: Mar 2012 Reputation: 0
RE: Real A/C from a Car Alternator
Hi,
off the top of my head from the alternators ive stripped down, the regulator controls a voltage to the windings to keep a voltage output required to what amps are drawn.....to take ac take a feed before the diodes/regulator then as you rev the engine up/down and add or remove load ie headlights do a measurement of how any of those may affect the ac tap you have taken.
06-02-2012, 08:57 AM (This post was last modified: 06-02-2012 09:18 AM by Robert Twiss.)
Post: #5
 Robert Twiss Member Posts: 53 Joined: May 2012 Reputation: 0
RE: Real A/C from a Car Alternator
(06-02-2012 08:33 AM)wfchobby Wrote:  Hi,
off the top of my head from the alternators ive stripped down, the regulator controls a voltage to the windings to keep a voltage output required to what amps are drawn.....to take ac take a feed before the diodes/regulator then as you rev the engine up/down and add or remove load ie headlights do a measurement of how any of those may affect the ac tap you have taken.

I'm considering an AC tap to power an HHO cell.
AC voltage is easy to step up and then of course can be converted back to DC but at a much higher voltage for the HHO cell.

This is probably the best video explaining an alternator I've seen. Very detailed in layman's terms.

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A failure may only be the confirmation that the theory is not valid.
It does not mean that there is no solution.
To solve a problem, you must define it.
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06-02-2012, 10:23 AM
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 TeaJunky Junior Member Posts: 23 Joined: May 2012 Reputation: 0
RE: Real A/C from a Car Alternator
This is a link to a blog you may find interesting http://blog.waterforfuel.com/page/2.aspx some of the pictures on the blog is how stan had modified a alternator this is one of the circuits http://www.overunity.com/5805/hho-cell-s...69/image// you will find his work on this with a bit of digging someone might post better links for you
06-02-2012, 10:37 AM
Post: #7
 Robert Twiss Member Posts: 53 Joined: May 2012 Reputation: 0
RE: Real A/C from a Car Alternator
(06-02-2012 10:23 AM)TeaJunky Wrote:  This is a link to a blog you may find interesting http://blog.waterforfuel.com/page/2.aspx some of the pictures on the blog is how stan had modified a alternator this is one of the circuits http://www.overunity.com/5805/hho-cell-s...69/image// you will find his work on this with a bit of digging someone might post better links for you

Very interesting alternator.

It all looks good on paper, then there's reality.
A failure may only be the confirmation that the theory is not valid.
It does not mean that there is no solution.
To solve a problem, you must define it.
A High School Kid just solved a 300 year old mathematical conundrum involving trajectories.
06-02-2012, 11:50 AM
Post: #8
 Robert Twiss Member Posts: 53 Joined: May 2012 Reputation: 0
RE: Real A/C from a Car Alternator
This is where the AC comes from in the alternator.
I guess I'm exploring the easiest explotation of the alternators 6-7 volt AC ability.
It would be too easy to connect terminals and add an external plug.

This AC voltage can then easily be stepped up to an optimum voltage for an HHO generator. High Volts/Low Amps right?

I realize the Myers alternator was "highly" modified.
I'm thinking "redneck" simple.

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A failure may only be the confirmation that the theory is not valid.
It does not mean that there is no solution.
To solve a problem, you must define it.
A High School Kid just solved a 300 year old mathematical conundrum involving trajectories.
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