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VMU Rebuild ECM ECU GAUGES Auto Fine tune System
06-01-2012, 02:20 AM (This post was last modified: 06-01-2012 04:18 AM by securesupplies.)
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VMU Rebuild ECM ECU GAUGES Auto Fine tune System
I have Started this thread,

As I think we can rebuild the VUM that Alex Sardo did,

We have knowledge here, I have been working on information recovery for some time and will start it off .

If you have skills in this area please try and post schematic programming etc .

Section I will start with will be 1 videos, 2 pics, 3 misc data on it.
You may be able to flash and program MSD ignitions in engine component modauls
and that may be what alex did and why is progressed so fast.

It should be NOted that after a lot of research PLX Devices is very close to the same
method, and could be modified ot suport 60% of the work immediately off the shelf in a good start and or frame work.

If you contact old dealers or have old un working model from Alex Sardo Hydroxy corp , please pull them apart and photo graph all part make thousand of pics
of board individual parts and or send to russ please .

NOte

different sensor on you car work different way some use resistance, some use voltage some are draw from OBD2 connection direct from ecu, emu alex had mastered this and made ic in his split the connection fom sensor to Emu and make its reading adjustable so he could trick emu, also he had reading of temp voltage from cells and had it auto adjusting inline with demand , very cool, this could be just a interface to a after market ecu emu like wolf with multi guages from lx or it

could be a base line for system for auto reading and adjusting and providing better gauging of stan system REBIRTH

instead of using Gas managmenet system
stan and stephen manual adjusting card
and reading which slowed thing a little explaning

when they were at the end of the program

Have a good think on this thread.

And look at injector thread and Particulary the
Gas Management unit thread


Dan



Software from VMU

Alex Sardo Work At Hydroxy tech.

This is a salvage and rebuild so we keep the knowledge of
what and how he did the sensor gather and readings.

I will post yo tubes of version 4

like schematics tried e use basic risc contoller.
ardino may do this now?

Daniel

Videos for downloading with downloadhelper.net

7 VMU_Series_2_Released_Oct_3rd_08_
http://youtu.be/QiLse3_DmeI

VMU_Series_2_Proportional_PWM_O2
http://youtu.be/opHikZt6YSQ

Wide_Range_or_Air_Fuel_Ratio_Sensor
http://youtu.be/h1BoxZDFh6o

C3K_to_Go_Channel3000_com
http://youtu.be/iQlOZIQlCsc

CAM_or_Camshaft_Position_Sensor_Testing
http://youtu.be/sZ0n56JDVuA

Clio_3_RS_197Ch_-_OBDKey_OBDGauge
http://youtu.be/2BcsS9i52rg

Demonstration_Of_VMU_Series_2_OBD2_RPM_based_production
http://youtu.be/FRmLFifl4RI

Fuel_Injector_Operation
http://youtu.be/A5FH3ke38lc

Fuel_Rail_Pressure_Sensor
http://youtu.be/ooDu_3mT8rQ

HHO_51.5_reduction_in_emissions_with_M-Cell_In_
http://youtu.be/4fbzbAA2h-I

HHO_ALEXIS_HYDROXY_FUEL_CEL
http://youtu.be/qf_Z-fTIJJU

HHO_VMU_Series_2_with_OBD2_Interface
http://youtu.be/uLqm_UTHWJg

HHO_VMU_Vehicle_Management_Unit_x_Alexis_Hydroxy_Boosters\
http://youtu.be/si0UuRIYxRs

Ignition_Coil_Testing
http://youtu.be/fmkZR2lZGdM

Injector_Circuit_Wiring_Diagram
http://youtu.be/H2h_JOYje_Q

Knock_Sensor_Operation
http://youtu.be/x7EE5FwiWsE

Magden_Linux_OBDII_Gauge_Software_-_SEMA_2008
http://youtu.be/bX3x8MObATw

Microchip Graphics Solution for Human Interface Applications
http://youtu.be/O4bU9odPxO4

MileageSeekers
http://youtu.be/xovFbIHdQs4

OBD-II_Data_Link_Connector_DLC
http://youtu.be/tBHOATkFoV8

Open_Circuit_Detection_Wiring_Diagram
http://youtu.be/ztmW2CVqQtQ

PLX_MultiGauges_installed_in_a_supercharged_Honda_S2000.
http://youtu.be/Wf3IpLuDDFY

Pressure_Sensor_Wiring_Diagram
http://youtu.be/8DWSOwAkuh4

Scanner_OBD-2_Mode-6
http://youtu.be/nQi1-CwSOwU

Secondary_Air_Injection_System
http://youtu.be/F86EE6nK8w0

Setting_up_the_ELM327_OBD-II_USB_interface_with_ScanTool.
http://youtu.be/_5A7MJ0-N2c

SM-AFR_Wideband_O2_Air_Fuel_Controller_Introduction
http://youtu.be/o_TzGSAbSKA

PS_or_Throttle_Position_Sensor_Adjustment
http://youtu.be/rXeah9M85GY

TPS_or_Throttle_Position_Sensor_Parameter
http://youtu.be/g170EB6CMH4

Tuning_Performance_-_Reprogramming_the_engine_management_
http://youtu.be/uHxrxCAFLko

VMU Discussion
http://youtu.be/65omozMwXVY

VMU_First_Look
http://youtu.be/Qz4aOnmUamo

Why_use_a_Fuel_Ignition_Controller_Wideband_O2_Map
http://youtu.be/ssnj8F4okiM

VSS_or_Vehicle_Speed_sensor

http://youtu.be/IMoKklb63NQ

There are some more VMU Videos around,
look through dealers and other video sites as they are not all on you tube,

you you fine new ones please post and download save and report to you tube

there is one VMU speech recognition v4 and others look
specifically for software instructions , how to flash and board and compnent
for re building

Dan
PS I hope you can see it is fairly simple just connect to the LPG guys or people with this in there hands every day and add better senors gauges to our Stan Stephen meyers map and method

Reason for this post is to raise common knowledge on it and get a rebuild of vmu starter if it is open source I think we will see some development
Save the software I attached it is a rare commodity


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07-03-2012, 04:22 PM
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RE: VMU Rebuild ECM ECU GAUGES Auto Fine tune System
I support the idea that fuel repacement can be done. the way i see it, most of us will have fuel injected vehicles so the 2 ways of achieving the goal would me: a hybrid of petroleum/gasoline and hho or 100% water/hho.

Because this is going to take some time to achieve, the problem i see is the hybrid mixing of petroleum and hho particularly with fuel injected vehicles because fuel injected vehicles to my understanding so far limit the amount of variation of fuel consumption to the map and sensors that ultimately control the injector pulsewidth.

For a hybrid install on a fuel injected vehicle, petrol / gasoline consumption reduction has to come from : change in driver behaviour pattern, altering injector pulse width, engine timing, increased combustion efficiency, and importantly engine lubrication.

As i explained elsewhere i went to a diesel oil spark rated in my vehixle because under friction testing the particular brand had the highest film strength(ability to keep 2 surfaces apart) and the powerup additive in the oil further reduces any friction and ultrasonic friction, add it to the fuel for upper cylinder lubrication also makes a difference.!

so what is being aimed for? I want a way to measure the vehicles sensors in real time and log it, add hho and measure, this then will tell me what the sensors are doing otherwise we are guessing and measuring only by driving and fuel cost is expensive testing. If theres a sensor change then technically the signals to the ecu must be changed. My current project under construction is to use an arduino board to datalog the sensors, the digital pins can interface with a obd2 interface board to interrogate the ecu live time to get some data, the analog pins can be used to measure injector pulsewidths and any other sensor not picked up in the obd2 stream.

parts used:
OBD-II UART - great board because it does all useful protocols: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9555
TFT lcd screen with microsd card slot http://www.ladyada.net/products/22tftbreakout/
arduino uno board from: http://www.freetronics.com/
power supply regulator to power the uno: http://www.freetronics.com/products/poe-...ulator-28v
the hard part now is the programming!!!

i think a decision needs to be made. If youre aiming to have a cell set be the fuel supply, will it be a supplementary supply to existing fuel or a 100% fuel supply OR will the method be to use injectors and bypass the cell idea altogether.?

the OBD2 uart board listed is very useful, whats difficult is to assemble is the programming for the arduino. Ive read the mpgduino and obduino coding sites and they are a challenge to understand, and they have features i dont need, ie calculating fuel usage. fuel usage is simple, fill tank to top of next, drive, fill to top and write a log, arduino not needed for this.

So what would be useful is a set of coding forthe arduino to interrotage the stn1110 based board to retrieve live time data of the sensors, timing angle etc.
cheers
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07-03-2012, 09:44 PM
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RE: VMU Rebuild ECM ECU GAUGES Auto Fine tune System
I agree an arduino based ECU or ECU piggy back system is what we want. I'm sure there are people here that can handle such programming. I wonder though if a 'flow chart' or something in plain english that describes how the inputs affect outputs (i.e. sensors & injectors), that coders could base their work on first? An arduino coder may not understand how to control an engine just like an auto mechanic may not understand how to use an arduino.
I think its possible if teamwork is used.Smile

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07-04-2012, 11:25 AM
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(07-03-2012 09:44 PM)firepinto Wrote:  I agree an arduino based ECU or ECU piggy back system is what we want. I'm sure there are people here that can handle such programming. I wonder though if a 'flow chart' or something in plain english that describes how the inputs affect outputs (i.e. sensors & injectors), that coders could base their work on first? An arduino coder may not understand how to control an engine just like an auto mechanic may not understand how to use an arduino.
I think its possible if teamwork is used.Smile

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I agree Nate, need to marry the two technologies.Cool

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07-06-2012, 01:03 AM
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(07-03-2012 09:44 PM)firepinto Wrote:  I agree an arduino based ECU or ECU piggy back system is what we want. I'm sure there are people here that can handle such programming. I wonder though if a 'flow chart' or something in plain english that describes how the inputs affect outputs (i.e. sensors & injectors), that coders could base their work on first? An arduino coder may not understand how to control an engine just like an auto mechanic may not understand how to use an arduino.
I think its possible if teamwork is used.Smile

Nate

Hello Nate!!
I think that using megasquit we can solve the problem...check it out and tell me what do you think:
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?13...of-an-era!
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(07-06-2012 01:03 AM)Muxar Wrote:  
(07-03-2012 09:44 PM)firepinto Wrote:  I agree an arduino based ECU or ECU piggy back system is what we want. I'm sure there are people here that can handle such programming. I wonder though if a 'flow chart' or something in plain english that describes how the inputs affect outputs (i.e. sensors & injectors), that coders could base their work on first? An arduino coder may not understand how to control an engine just like an auto mechanic may not understand how to use an arduino.
I think its possible if teamwork is used.Smile

Nate

Hello Nate!!
I think that using megasquit we can solve the problem...check it out and tell me what do you think:
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?13...of-an-era!
Scroll down to see the diagram.

Hey Muxar,
That looks pretty easy to do. I think we might need a little more control input and output than what it has available though. Off hand Im thinking of the non-combustable gasse valves.

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07-08-2012, 09:07 PM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2012 09:15 PM by securesupplies.)
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Can check this also check all relative on this

http://www.aliexpress.com/category/20000...tools.html
(07-03-2012 04:22 PM)wfchobby Wrote:  I support the idea that fuel repacement can be done. the way i see it, most of us will have fuel injected vehicles so the 2 ways of achieving the goal would me: a hybrid of petroleum/gasoline and hho or 100% water/hho.

Because this is going to take some time to achieve, the problem i see is the hybrid mixing of petroleum and hho particularly with fuel injected vehicles because fuel injected vehicles to my understanding so far limit the amount of variation of fuel consumption to the map and sensors that ultimately control the injector pulsewidth.

For a hybrid install on a fuel injected vehicle, petrol / gasoline consumption reduction has to come from : change in driver behaviour pattern, altering injector pulse width, engine timing, increased combustion efficiency, and importantly engine lubrication.

As i explained elsewhere i went to a diesel oil spark rated in my vehixle because under friction testing the particular brand had the highest film strength(ability to keep 2 surfaces apart) and the powerup additive in the oil further reduces any friction and ultrasonic friction, add it to the fuel for upper cylinder lubrication also makes a difference.!

so what is being aimed for? I want a way to measure the vehicles sensors in real time and log it, add hho and measure, this then will tell me what the sensors are doing otherwise we are guessing and measuring only by driving and fuel cost is expensive testing. If theres a sensor change then technically the signals to the ecu must be changed. My current project under construction is to use an arduino board to datalog the sensors, the digital pins can interface with a obd2 interface board to interrogate the ecu live time to get some data, the analog pins can be used to measure injector pulsewidths and any other sensor not picked up in the obd2 stream.

parts used:
OBD-II UART - great board because it does all useful protocols: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9555
TFT lcd screen with microsd card slot http://www.ladyada.net/products/22tftbreakout/
arduino uno board from: http://www.freetronics.com/
power supply regulator to power the uno: http://www.freetronics.com/products/poe-...ulator-28v
the hard part now is the programming!!!

i think a decision needs to be made. If youre aiming to have a cell set be the fuel supply, will it be a supplementary supply to existing fuel or a 100% fuel supply OR will the method be to use injectors and bypass the cell idea altogether.?

the OBD2 uart board listed is very useful, whats difficult is to assemble is the programming for the arduino. Ive read the mpgduino and obduino coding sites and they are a challenge to understand, and they have features i dont need, ie calculating fuel usage. fuel usage is simple, fill tank to top of next, drive, fill to top and write a log, arduino not needed for this.

So what would be useful is a set of coding forthe arduino to interrotage the stn1110 based board to retrieve live time data of the sensors, timing angle etc.
cheers

Think it is simple,
get a old fuel injected care and start now do a rotary engine
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RE: VMU Rebuild ECM ECU GAUGES Auto Fine tune System
now a O2 sensor, small micro controller ( Arduino) and short program and you can control the air to fuel ratio.

Fuel injectors
adapt LPG GUys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAtDB2FCG...h_response
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