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Engine Management System ECU and systems MAPS
03-07-2012, 03:05 PM
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Engine Management System ECU and systems MAPS
This Thread is started to to bring together the overall engine management system knowledge and , options for after market ecu ,injector ignition off the shelf or custom system over lays.

I started with this one from Stan which I hope every here enjoys to
see again
Patent number: 5293857
attached

Note
Particular interest is the gas mixing chamber and ambient air
in to gas processor with gate (throttle body which is connected to ecu for
accelerator position) and figure 3

Several companies can offer pcs, omnitek is great one.

Other patents which help the common knowledge of ecm operation
with hydrogen injections on vehicles
US7316218

Dan


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03-08-2012, 06:02 AM
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RE: Engine Management System ECU and systems MAPS
(03-07-2012 03:05 PM)securesupplies Wrote:  This Thread is started to to bring together the overall engine management system knowledge and , options for after market ecu ,injector ignition off the shelf or custom system over lays.

I started with this one from Stan which I hope every here enjoys to
see again
Patent number: 5293857
attached

Note
Particular interest is the gas mixing chamber and ambient air
in to gas processor with gate (throttle body which is connected to ecu for
accelerator position) and figure 3

Several companies can offer pcs, omnitek is great one.

Other patents which help the common knowledge of ecm operation
with hydrogen injections on vehicles
US7316218

Dan

good post, and also i will add my thought here later, had done some research on this also... ~Russ

"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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04-19-2012, 09:47 AM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012 09:51 AM by securesupplies.)
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RE: Engine Management System ECU and systems MAPS
(03-08-2012 06:02 AM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:  
(03-07-2012 03:05 PM)securesupplies Wrote:  This Thread is started to to bring together the overall engine management system knowledge and , options for after market ecu ,injector ignition off the shelf or custom system over lays.

I started with this one from Stan which I hope every here enjoys to
see again
Patent number: 5293857
attached

Note
Particular interest is the gas mixing chamber and ambient air
in to gas processor with gate (throttle body which is connected to ecu for
accelerator position) and figure 3

Several companies can offer pcs, omnitek is great one.

Other patents which help the common knowledge of ecm operation
with hydrogen injections on vehicles
US7316218

Dan

good post, and also i will add my thought here later, had done some research on this also... ~Russ

OK I HAVE A SMALL CACHE OF LPG GUYS STARTING

I WILL POINT THEM TO THIS THREAD

PLEASE DO SAME for poeple form installer industry

SO THEY DON"T MIX INFO for installing experiences and ideas

WITH PURE REBUILD INFORMATION IN OTHER THREAD LIKE INJECTOR ETC

HERE CAN BE MAP< ECU SOLENOID , bypass reprogramming
and AND TECH KNOW HOW FROM LPG ?CNG INSTALLERS ETC

Look forward to Opening it up for

development from this industry experiences to date alot has happen since 1985

Some kits on the market are amazingly simply to adjust in software and config.
not to mention well made and cost effective.

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04-21-2012, 07:45 AM (This post was last modified: 04-21-2012 03:03 PM by securesupplies.)
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CONVERTING CURRENT LPG installer kits: Engine Management System ECU and systems MAPS
FYI for comparing and adapting with YOUR current LPG KNowledge etc


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04-21-2012, 09:13 AM
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re post as relevant from tony another forum

Ok after thinking and looking at the locations of VEE and thinking about it from a cars electronics point of view, I've come up with what VEE is. VEE is a 12v supply voltage. If you know anything about a cars electronics, its the ignition switch. On a cars ignition switch you have ACC and then the "Start" position. ACC will turn on the circuit and all other electronic accessories. When the ignition is in the "Start" position this will energize the ignition coil and engage the starter. As far as VEE, when the cars ignition is in the "Start" position, this will turn on the VEE locations allowing the circuit to start producing hydrogen. This also acts as a safety feature so that for example is you have your cars ignition switched to ACC to listen to your radio, you want be producing hydrogen. Pretty simple explanation huh?


I think
Vdd 5v
Vcc 12v or 5v ?
Vee 12v

Yea VDD = 5V, VCC & VEE = 12v

Thanks - this helps clarify the voltage sources for the circuits greatly!
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04-27-2012, 03:19 PM
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Check this out

Wolf
http://youtu.be/0zltqthkMFw

next below particulary 7.50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LZRZPAbR...ure=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9ku6O1q...ure=relmfu
next particulary 4.28 staged injection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYRkeCm4N...el&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcuLhKe7c...ure=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWAyWWnE3...e=youtu.be

and compare to this

VMU Concept was solid and should be used

these guys got shut down. if they new current knowledge we would be golden.
one of the key obd interface

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA72J_lN8...el&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHaPwk1sj...el&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-0CmHGi5...el&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIUNE87P...el&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIUNE87P...playnext=1

NOw the guys above used defaults and technics which are standard
they just basically reprogrammed using simialr tchnics and software which is
standard already.

What is important is the thinking here and how is is possible now to do this.

INfo you need to learn.

Suggest to save and keep these videos. and links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTCgUY51g...el&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sW2UUeRM-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyxNLrCMk3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNAhBHxX1...ure=relmfu

All the items
http://www.autodiagnosticsandpublishing....oducts.htm



and now installers


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If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram


check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
(05-02-2012 06:45 AM)securesupplies Wrote:  If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram


check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp

RE
This

http://www.obdkey.com



Tremendous amount of information ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957TTByL0...embedded#!
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(05-02-2012 06:45 AM)securesupplies Wrote:  If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram


check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
(05-02-2012 06:45 AM)securesupplies Wrote:  If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram


check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp

RE
This

http://www.obdkey.com



Tremendous amount of information ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957TTByL0...embedded#!

RARE VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIYeEc02S...r_embedded


(05-02-2012 06:45 AM)securesupplies Wrote:  If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram


check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
(05-02-2012 06:45 AM)securesupplies Wrote:  If any one has old VMU or power boxes please send or send with circuit diagram


check this
http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp

RE
This

http://www.obdkey.com



Tremendous amount of information ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957TTByL0...embedded#!

modern examples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...KGP9N1PY#!

AEM Igniton control o2 mao and ignition controller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCeMaLC0D...re=related
http://www.aemelectronics.com/
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06-01-2012, 02:06 AM
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PLease add to this thread also see Alex VUM Rebuild

thread as a way to auto fine tune rather than manual like stan and stephen did


Dan


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10-02-2012, 04:12 PM
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Fuel injectors
adapt LPG GUys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAtDB2FCG...h_response


now a O2 sensor, small micro controller ( Arduino) and short program and you can control the air to fuel ratio.
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06-09-2013, 01:21 PM
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New
Version

of ECU and EMS

I have put together the fitting and plumbing
I have a manufacture for quenching tube it is a special mould process
from ptfe, so I am trying to match he solenoids to tube size at this time
to trail that part of it

Daniel
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