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Calculating resistance
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03-07-2012, 03:16 AM
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Calculating resistance
When at resonance the imaginary part of the electrical impedance is zero. So the resistance of the water between the plates should be:
(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conductivity for more information) R = ρ*L/A ρ sea water = 2×10−1 ohm*m ρ drinking water = 2×101 to 2×103 ohm*m ρ deionized water = 1.8×105 ohm*m L Meyer Cell = 2.5 inch = 6.35 cm Diameter inside = 0.5 inch = 1.27 cm → r = 0.635 cm Diameter outside = 0.75 inch – (2*0.03 inch) = 0.69 inch = 1.7526 cm → r = 0.8763 cm Gap = 0.095 inch = 0.2413 cm Width Inside Meyer Cell = 2*π*r = 2* π * 0.635 = 3.98982 cm Width Outside Meyer Cell = 2*π*r = π * 0.8763 = 5.50596 cm A inside = 3.98982 * 6.35 = 25.34 cm2 A outside = 5.50596 * 6.35 = 34.96 cm2 So for drinking water the R should be between: Rmin = 2×101 * 0.002413 / 0.002534 = 19 ohm Rmax = 2×103 * 0.002413 / 0.003496 = 1380 ohm Problem is still that since we use tubes what width do we use, inside or outside? Any comments/ideas? |
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03-07-2012, 03:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2012 04:06 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985.)
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RE: Calculating resistance
(03-07-2012 03:16 AM)Sharky Wrote: Problem is still that since we use tubes what width do we use, inside or outside? Any comments/ideas? i think this is worded odd for me to understand? what are you saying? ok, i think i understand. only use the tube that is exposed and also you will need to calculate both? or the gap/ and the area between? also please consider this tube as a wave guide... is there any calculations you can do with a wave guide that will help you calculate this out? there is some info in the Birth of a new tech book that talks a bout a wave guide. its memo WFC 427 "Voltage Wave Guide" ??? ~Russ PS. this wave guide section mainly talks about the Injector in my opinion... but i think it applys to all... also look at pages 7-22 top photo " linear cylindrical resonant cavity " "linear Voltage Wave-Guide" and sharky, look close at those diagrams in that chapter for coil tuning and impedance stuff and tuning??? "I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer "We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997" "If you believe, even tho you can not see, you will see." ~Russ Gries |
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03-07-2012, 04:41 AM
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RE: Calculating resistance
(03-07-2012 03:44 AM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:(03-07-2012 03:16 AM)Sharky Wrote: Problem is still that since we use tubes what width do we use, inside or outside? Any comments/ideas? If you follow the link to wikipedia and take a look at the image shown there it may get clearer what i meant, ... in our case the surface area A is the plate surface area and l is the gap between the plates filled with water. Now since we have two cylindrical tubes with different diameters we get different values for A, the inner tube has a lower A than the outer tube so back to the image, one side is smaller than the other side and the water in between is actually some kind of trapezoid form instead of a cube. So calculating exactly the resistance is kind of difficult with the tube setup, it would be easier with the plate setup. I will look more into the voltage wave guide stuff and impedance as i think it may be far more important than we have thought off until now, .... ay hurting my brain does (always loved Yoda) going back to all that theory and formulas from a past, far, ... far away |
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03-07-2012, 06:33 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2012 06:35 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985.)
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RE: Calculating resistance
(03-07-2012 04:41 AM)Sharky Wrote:(03-07-2012 03:44 AM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:(03-07-2012 03:16 AM)Sharky Wrote: Problem is still that since we use tubes what width do we use, inside or outside? Any comments/ideas? http://www.phys.uri.edu/~gerhard/PHY204/tsl105.pdf http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hba...apcyl.html http://www.davidpace.com/physics/em-topi...inders.htm and i don't know if this will help? http://minerva.union.edu/labrakes/Capaci...stance.pdf any help? i know your looking for resistance but... you may need to calculate capacitance then calculate resistance with that? ~Russ "I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer "We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997" "If you believe, even tho you can not see, you will see." ~Russ Gries |
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03-21-2012, 08:21 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2012 08:23 PM by panonoobis.)
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RE: Calculating resistance
(03-07-2012 04:41 AM)Sharky Wrote:(03-07-2012 03:44 AM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:(03-07-2012 03:16 AM)Sharky Wrote: Problem is still that since we use tubes what width do we use, inside or outside? Any comments/ideas? dident i se somting someware ware the outer tube has some gaps in tham to reduse the A af de outer to maths the inner tube's A  this whas dun becous of tuning,in som mayer youtube i have seen some time ago.greets, pano |
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03-24-2012, 10:04 PM
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RE: Calculating resistance
attachment of what a wave guide is and how it works...
~Russ "I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer "We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997" "If you believe, even tho you can not see, you will see." ~Russ Gries |
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04-13-2012, 12:16 AM
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RE: Calculating resistance
(03-24-2012 10:04 PM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote: attachment of what a wave guide is and how it works... Hi Guys I find this one particulary good post RUSS The wave guide infor is right on the money, and may open up new territory several guys on line have posted they are getting result with straight microwave overn diodes and transformers this is very interesting post indeed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1PfmThe...el&list=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx7aWaPbB...el&list=UL dan |
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