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Complete VIC schematic and pcb
06-25-2012, 05:17 AM
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RE: Complete VIC schematic and pcb
Sniperam found some errors in the partlist excelsheet which are now corrected. Thank you sniperam for the feedback on that!!

If somebody orders his components from an other supplier than Farnell or Mouser please add the partnumbers to the excelsheet in a new sheet and sent it to me so i will upload the updated version to the first post of this thread.
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06-27-2012, 02:04 AM
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(01-18-2012 09:05 AM)Sharky Wrote:  Several people already have build their VIC circuits based on pictures and the schematics from WO9207861. If we want to replicate Meyers work and get the cell to work we need the complete schematics. Since 'they' only sell their complete VIC schematics and do not give the full design for free its time to work it out completely and offer it for FREE (yes i share the thoughts of Russ that this will only work if all is available for free).

Haxar already did some fine work in tracing the VIC card. I now started to completely design the entire VIC with KICAD. I choose this toolset because it is available on Linux/Windows, it is open-source, reasonable easy to learn, it supports nested schematics, it comes with a good autorouter function and has the abillity to generate gerber files for pcb manufacturing. Anyway, ... if you do not like KICAD it is your problem Tongue, else download it at http://kicad.sourceforge.net. I used KiCad-2011-12-28-BZR3254-stable-Win_full_with_components_doc_install.exe from http://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ . If you download the snapshots the libraries will not get installed. Download the project zip file and use the unarchive option in the KiCad main menu to load it.

Complete:
- variable pulse generator
- gated pulse generator
- phase lock loop circuit
- pulse indicator circuit
- resonant scanning circuit
- Voltage Amplitude Control
- cell driver circuit

Schematics build on prototype board and verified:
- variable pulse generator
- gated pulse generator
- phase lock loop circuit
- pulse indicator circuit
- resonant scanning circuit
- Voltage Amplitude Control
- cell driver circuit

PCB:
- Components to modules complete for current schematic
- Components placed and traces made
- Generated Gerber files

Latest KiCad project file date: 14 may 2012

Regards,
Sharky

Hello all :

There are just someone error on reference.
1467868 --> 9558551
it s this product ?

good job
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06-27-2012, 05:39 AM
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(06-27-2012 02:04 AM)Jean-Alexandre Wrote:  Hello all :

There are just someone error on reference.
1467868 --> 9558551
it s this product ?

good job

Thanks !! Probably that item is no longer available, you are correct that 9558551 is a correct replacement. Updated the xls sheet.
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06-29-2012, 05:48 PM
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guys,where i have to conect my osciloscope on the vic to see the scaning and if it is looking?Sharky,how i design your schematic with thicker tracs,because the toner metod would not work with thouse thin tracks,btw your vic does all it supposed do to?i see russ and maybe others build it but no feedback,does it work or not?
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07-30-2012, 08:23 AM
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Since i just saw today the remarks of user 'Ray Don' on the pcb v1.1 ordering thread which is now closed by Russ i would like to post my thoughts over here, ..... just in case somebody doubts my intentions (i know that Russ and a few others do not and never have!).

So lets be as transparent as i can be:

- To come to the current version 1.1 of the Meyer vic pcb design i roughly spent about 125-150 hours of my spare time.
- I ordered 14 boards at a total cost of 133.50 euros which is 9.50 euros per board
- 2 for me, 1 for haxar (for doing the trace) and 2 for Russ have not been paid for so that leaves 9 * 20 euro = 180 euros
- 2 persons did not pay while i did sent them the boards so i actually received 7 * 20 = 140 euros for the boards.
- sending the boards to Russ costed me about 6.80 euros because i decided that Russ did not have to pay for anything.

Conclusion, ... i have lost about 0.30 eurocents on the ordering and spent about 150 hours of my valuable time. So yes my boards and those of Russ and Haxar have been paid for by the community (the rest of you that ordered a board) but in my opinion a small payment for so much work and effort put into it.

To 'Ray Don', if you know anything about electronics you would know that 20 euros for a 100x140 gold plated board is dead cheap, ... in fact i challenge you to get it cheaper (without ordering 100's of them at once), the gerber files are in the first post of this thread (yes it is open source and available to all) so be my guest and start your Meyer webshop with it. Mentioning RWG Research and Haxar's name on the PCB was nothing more than to honor their hard work on it.

I prefer to stay here on the forums and try to bring this quest to a good end in collobaration with all those brilant minds that do occupy these forums!!

Lets not get our minds distracted and keep focusing on all the good discussions going on here on the forums!
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07-30-2012, 09:08 AM (This post was last modified: 07-30-2012 09:10 AM by Jeff Nading.)
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(07-30-2012 08:23 AM)Sharky Wrote:  Since i just saw today the remarks of user 'Ray Don' on the pcb v1.1 ordering thread which is now closed by Russ i would like to post my thoughts over here, ..... just in case somebody doubts my intentions (i know that Russ and a few others do not and never have!).

So lets be as transparent as i can be:

- To come to the current version 1.1 of the Meyer vic pcb design i roughly spent about 125-150 hours of my spare time.
- I ordered 14 boards at a total cost of 133.50 euros which is 9.50 euros per board
- 2 for me, 1 for haxar (for doing the trace) and 2 for Russ have not been paid for so that leaves 9 * 20 euro = 180 euros
- 2 persons did not pay while i did sent them the boards so i actually received 7 * 20 = 140 euros for the boards.
- sending the boards to Russ costed me about 6.80 euros because i decided that Russ did not have to pay for anything.

Conclusion, ... i have lost about 0.30 eurocents on the ordering and spent about 150 hours of my valuable time. So yes my boards and those of Russ and Haxar have been paid for by the community (the rest of you that ordered a board) but in my opinion a small payment for so much work and effort put into it.

To 'Ray Don', if you know anything about electronics you would know that 20 euros for a 100x140 gold plated board is dead cheap, ... in fact i challenge you to get it cheaper (without ordering 100's of them at once), the gerber files are in the first post of this thread (yes it is open source and available to all) so be my guest and start your Meyer webshop with it. Mentioning RWG Research and Haxar's name on the PCB was nothing more than to honor their hard work on it.

I prefer to stay here on the forums and try to bring this quest to a good end in collobaration with all those brilant minds that do occupy these forums!!

Lets not get our minds distracted and keep focusing on all the good discussions going on here on the forums!
Hi Sharky, yours and others who worked and are still working on the electronics and all other fazes of this work are very much appreciated.Big Grin We all know you lost money on this project, Angel again very much appreciated. I won't mention the guy's name that brought up this situation, but he has been dealt with, Russ and I don't have much hair left because of this, but it's over now and hope that the peace on the forum, support and cooperation continue to blossom. You and others have done some great work here and I know dedicated individuals like yourself will continue to do so. So, we all want to thank you for your hard work and dedication, thanks, Jeff.Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

As for most if not all of mans inventions and discoveries, we have or had to observe Gods Creation's, this in it'self proves he exists. Rom. 1:20. Have a good one, Jeff.Big Grin
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07-30-2012, 12:43 PM
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(07-30-2012 08:23 AM)Sharky Wrote:  Since i just saw today the remarks of user 'Ray Don' on the pcb v1.1 ordering thread which is now closed by Russ i would like to post my thoughts over here, ..... just in case somebody doubts my intentions (i know that Russ and a few others do not and never have!).

So lets be as transparent as i can be:

- To come to the current version 1.1 of the Meyer vic pcb design i roughly spent about 125-150 hours of my spare time.
- I ordered 14 boards at a total cost of 133.50 euros which is 9.50 euros per board
- 2 for me, 1 for haxar (for doing the trace) and 2 for Russ have not been paid for so that leaves 9 * 20 euro = 180 euros
- 2 persons did not pay while i did sent them the boards so i actually received 7 * 20 = 140 euros for the boards.
- sending the boards to Russ costed me about 6.80 euros because i decided that Russ did not have to pay for anything.

Conclusion, ... i have lost about 0.30 eurocents on the ordering and spent about 150 hours of my valuable time. So yes my boards and those of Russ and Haxar have been paid for by the community (the rest of you that ordered a board) but in my opinion a small payment for so much work and effort put into it.

To 'Ray Don', if you know anything about electronics you would know that 20 euros for a 100x140 gold plated board is dead cheap, ... in fact i challenge you to get it cheaper (without ordering 100's of them at once), the gerber files are in the first post of this thread (yes it is open source and available to all) so be my guest and start your Meyer webshop with it. Mentioning RWG Research and Haxar's name on the PCB was nothing more than to honor their hard work on it.

I prefer to stay here on the forums and try to bring this quest to a good end in collobaration with all those brilant minds that do occupy these forums!!

Lets not get our minds distracted and keep focusing on all the good discussions going on here on the forums!

Hello sharky
is it possible to buy the two cards?

Alex
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07-30-2012, 05:20 PM
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Is this the end to the Stanley Meyer project?
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07-30-2012, 05:34 PM
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(07-30-2012 05:20 PM)ddrum Wrote:  Is this the end to the Stanley Meyer project?

No way dude !!!!! Still working very hard on Stan's technology.Big Grin

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Whew.....Thank God! Keep up the great work!! Forums just seem kinda quiet lately.
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07-30-2012, 06:25 PM
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(07-30-2012 06:08 PM)ddrum Wrote:  Whew.....Thank God! Keep up the great work!! Forums just seem kinda quiet lately.
Yes, everyone's working on the projects at hand and no time to post, thanks, Jeff.Big Grin

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08-05-2012, 11:58 AM
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Hello all

I search a reference (farnell or other) of bigger potentiometer. (see image)
Someone can help me ?

Thank you so much

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08-05-2012, 07:07 PM
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(08-05-2012 11:58 AM)Jean-Alexandre Wrote:  Hello all

I search a reference (farnell or other) of bigger potentiometer. (see image)
Someone can help me ?

Thank you so much

Alex
Try these
http://www.digikey.com/

http://www.mouser.com/

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/...&langId=-1

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08-06-2012, 01:33 AM
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(08-05-2012 11:58 AM)Jean-Alexandre Wrote:  Hello all

I search a reference (farnell or other) of bigger potentiometer. (see image)
Someone can help me ?

Thank you so much

Alex

If you mean the 'big' one with the five wires then that is not a potentiometer but a 4 position switch. You could use farnel # 1123704

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08-06-2012, 06:30 AM
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(08-05-2012 11:58 AM)Jean-Alexandre Wrote:  Hello all

I search a reference (farnell or other) of bigger potentiometer. (see image)
Someone can help me ?

Thank you so much

Alex

What exactly do you mean by bigger potentiometer? more turns to get an expanded scale for frequency?

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08-07-2012, 10:22 AM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2012 10:27 AM by Jean-Alexandre.)
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Thank you so much all for your answer.

Alex
I added this reference farnell in vic-1.1-component-list.xls
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09-03-2012, 05:17 PM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2012 05:57 PM by Jeff Nading.)
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09-03-2012, 05:56 PM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2012 06:29 PM by Jeff Nading.)
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(09-03-2012 05:17 PM)valyonpz1 Wrote:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NczhXYkK0BI

I guess you really want everyone here to know what you have done, but come on dude, it's not necessary to post your result in 6 different places on this forum, one place [most appropriate] would have been sufficient. Also to disable comments on your YT video is just one sided and not sharing. We are open source here, all you have shown us is scope shots and some drawings, no real proof of anything. We will need more than what you have shown us.This is not to upset you but will need to see more, a working cell, then we can go from there.

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09-03-2012, 10:48 PM
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(09-03-2012 05:56 PM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  
(09-03-2012 05:17 PM)valyonpz1 Wrote:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NczhXYkK0BI

I guess you really want everyone here to know what you have done, but come on dude, it's not necessary to post your result in 6 different places on this forum, one place [most appropriate] would have been sufficient. Also to disable comments on your YT video is just one sided and not sharing. We are open source here, all you have shown us is scope shots and some drawings, no real proof of anything. We will need more than what you have shown us.This is not to upset you but will need to see more, a working cell, then we can go from there.

valyonpz1, FYI, I Removed all but the post in this thread,

jeff is right, one place is good, we will spreed the news if we see fit. thanks, ~Russ

"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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09-04-2012, 03:52 PM
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(09-03-2012 05:17 PM)valyonpz1 Wrote:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NczhXYkK0BI

Your video was interesting, can you show your experiments with WFC if posible?

Good job, i'll be expecting, and thanks for share with us.

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