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Stan's "Quenching Disk" what it is? And Testing
12-01-2011, 05:42 PM (This post was last modified: 12-23-2011 03:17 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985.)
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RE: Stan's "Quenching Disk" what it is?
(11-26-2011 07:43 PM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  (This post was edited from is original content.)

Hi H20, what I think might be or could be happening is that at least 75% of us are holding off from spending more money until there is a full solution or close to it, to the H20 for automotive use. I am trying to do my part by experimentation, in support of the form, I will also share what I learn and have spent a great deal of money in what I have done thus far, that's why this form and others like it are so important , so we can share information. Once there is a full solution, I am sure your company will take off, just because it's not happening now don't give up, because people that do not have the skills or the understanding of the science about what we are discussing will be coming to you, Stan thought he could do it in 6 months when it took him 15 years, I hope it doesn't take that long cause I probably won't be around to see it. Your products are top notch and I don't think anyone would be making a mistake by buying a product from you. All that being said, It might just be a little premature for your company to take off at this time, thanks for being here, you have helped us all, Jeff.Big Grin

Jeff very well said, my sentiments exactly. I would also like to add to never lose sight of who this is coming from and for. This is for all of us and our children and grandchildren and that this technology would be coming from all of us. Also try to always remember what Stan had in large print written on the side of his dune buggy.

Godbless and Godspeed to all!
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12-01-2011, 06:04 PM (This post was last modified: 12-23-2011 03:17 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985.)
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(11-26-2011 07:43 PM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  (This post was edited from is original content.)

Hi H20, what I think might be or could be happening is that at least 75% of us are holding off from spending more money until there is a full solution or close to it, to the H20 for automotive use. I am trying to do my part by experimentation, in support of the form, I will also share what I learn and have spent a great deal of money in what I have done thus far, that's why this form and others like it are so important , so we can share information. Once there is a full solution, I am sure your company will take off, just because it's not happening now don't give up, because people that do not have the skills or the understanding of the science about what we are discussing will be coming to you, Stan thought he could do it in 6 months when it took him 15 years, I hope it doesn't take that long cause I probably won't be around to see it. Your products are top notch and I don't think anyone would be making a mistake by buying a product from you. All that being said, It might just be a little premature for your company to take off at this time, thanks for being here, you have helped us all, Jeff.Big Grin

Jeff very well said, my sentiments exactly. I would also like to add to never lose sight of who this is coming from and for. This is for all of us and our children and grandchildren and that this technology would be coming from all of us. Also try to always remember what Stan had in large print written on the side of his dune buggy.

Godbless and Godspeed to all!
Scott

Thanks Scott, I agree, and thanks for the added comments, Jeff.Big Grin

As for most if not all of mans inventions and discoveries, we have or had to observe Gods Creation's, this in it'self proves he exists. Rom. 1:20. Have a good one, Jeff.Big Grin
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Smile RE: Stan's "Quenching Disk" what it is?
here is anther option for the tubes that control the h1 output ie quenching tubes recently it came to mind of another reseacher that graphite nano tubes (ultimate Hydrogen storage) can be made cheaply using a liquid graphite product ( commonly used for electroplating non conductive items and readily available) to saturate fibre matrix (nylon/ wool carpet/ microfiber cloths. by encasing nano/micro fibres in liquid graphite , that dries to solid graphite , will leave tube structures once cooked/ hydride with heat to burn out the fibre leaving porous tubes matrix.
this may also be used for porous graphite electrodes.
just another option we should consider if it is a cheaper option
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12-02-2011, 04:29 AM (This post was last modified: 12-23-2011 03:18 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985.)
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(12-01-2011 05:42 PM)HHOstar Wrote:  
(11-26-2011 07:43 PM)Jeff Nading Wrote:  (This post was edited from is original content.)

Hi H20, what I think might be or could be happening is that at least 75% of us are holding off from spending more money until there is a full solution or close to it, to the H20 for automotive use. I am trying to do my part by experimentation, in support of the form, I will also share what I learn and have spent a great deal of money in what I have done thus far, that's why this form and others like it are so important , so we can share information. Once there is a full solution, I am sure your company will take off, just because it's not happening now don't give up, because people that do not have the skills or the understanding of the science about what we are discussing will be coming to you, Stan thought he could do it in 6 months when it took him 15 years, I hope it doesn't take that long cause I probably won't be around to see it. Your products are top notch and I don't think anyone would be making a mistake by buying a product from you. All that being said, It might just be a little premature for your company to take off at this time, thanks for being here, you have helped us all, Jeff.Big Grin

Jeff very well said, my sentiments exactly. I would also like to add to never lose sight of who this is coming from and for. This is for all of us and our children and grandchildren and that this technology would be coming from all of us. Also try to always remember what Stan had in large print written on the side of his dune buggy.

Godbless and Godspeed to all!
Scott

god speed Scott!!!!

PS, send me an email,

RWG42985@aol.com in case you forgot!

god bless us all! Stan was in the right place! and its good to see! Smile

also moved this conversation over here:

http://open-source-energy.org/forum/show...hp?tid=186

Thanks! ~Russ

"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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12-02-2011, 04:52 PM (This post was last modified: 12-23-2011 03:18 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985.)
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You can certainly put me down for a couple of meters of quenching tube.Smile

Maybe in the future do a Heavy duty version with a protective sheath around it, for permenent installation in engine bays etc? Or think of a way to fit couplings on the end for easy installation?

Its a shame the HHO games has just gone, im sure you'd have shifted loads of the stuff there! We dont really get much like that going on here in the UK to my knowledge, but if i get the chance to spread the word about your products, i will.
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I was working at a place that makes medical supplies today. They accualy make the needles for hyperdermic needles. When i seen this, it came to my mind that several small needles like theses grouped together and silver soldered together some way would make a nice flash back arrester. You can get theses needles as less than 15 thousands dia. hole in them. Just an idea.
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(12-20-2011 08:01 PM)gpssonar Wrote:  @ Russ
I was working at a place that makes medical supplies today. They accualy make the needles for hyperdermic needles. When i seen this, it came to my mind that several small needles like theses grouped together and silver soldered together some way would make a nice flash back arrester. You can get theses needles as less than 15 thousands dia. hole in them. Just an idea.

hey, i think phill or some one was looking in to this also. its not a bad idea.

but, what would it cost for lets say 100 of these needles?

just a thought? but i'm interested in finding out just for pure thought of cost for that type of thing.

thanks for the thoughts!!!

i have some updates to add here but i will post as a video! Smile
~Russ

"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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(12-01-2011 02:46 AM)haxar Wrote:  Russ,

I have some stainless steel type 316L porous discs from McMaster-Carr rated at 40 micron with dimensions of 0.5" diameter by 0.062" thick. Are these dimensions approximate to the battery vent cap you have? See attached images and also the manufacture's website:

http://www.appliedporous.com/

haxar, are you in the usa? if so would you be willing to donate one of these disks if you have them to do some testing?

it looks like 60-30 microns is what stan was using. calulated from .025" - .0015"

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"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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(12-21-2011 02:10 AM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:  haxar, are you in the usa? if so would you be willing to donate one of these disks if you have them to do some testing?

it looks like 60-30 microns is what stan was using. calulated from .025" - .0015"

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Yes, I pondered and possibly will donate some of these discs to you with some other stuff as well until I have the RepRap Mendel 3D printer I just received to assemble up and running.
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(12-21-2011 04:19 AM)haxar Wrote:  
(12-21-2011 02:10 AM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:  haxar, are you in the usa? if so would you be willing to donate one of these disks if you have them to do some testing?

it looks like 60-30 microns is what stan was using. calulated from .025" - .0015"

thanks

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Yes, I pondered and possibly will donate some of these discs to you with some other stuff as well until I have the RepRap Mendel 3D printer I just received to assemble up and running.

cool my friend. i only need one to try. i will even send it back when done. i would try to buy some but they come in a big pack and are way to expensive just to try. i will even buy just one from you to try. let me know and we can get it going!

PM me about it if you'd like!

thanks! ~Russ

"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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hey guys, some on this quenching disk is posted here at this new burn rate thread.

http://open-source-energy.org/forum/show...hp?tid=258

thanks!

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"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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(12-20-2011 08:01 PM)gpssonar Wrote:  @ Russ
I was working at a place that makes medical supplies today. They accualy make the needles for hyperdermic needles. When i seen this, it came to my mind that several small needles like theses grouped together and silver soldered together some way would make a nice flash back arrester. You can get theses needles as less than 15 thousands dia. hole in them. Just an idea.

hey, i think phill or some one was looking in to this also. its not a bad idea.

but, what would it cost for lets say 100 of these needles?

just a thought? but i'm interested in finding out just for pure thought of cost for that type of thing.

thanks for the thoughts!!!

i have some updates to add here but i will post as a video! Smile
~Russ

box of 100 23 guage hypodermics needles only was £10/20 dollars, but the work involved is high, I was going to bundle them together with epoxy, but you need 900 of them to equal a 1/2 inch bore pipe. Im waiting on delivery of a couple of jdc flashback arrestors, the guys got some new material on order that can cope with higher flow rates.
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(12-27-2011 07:45 PM)phil Wrote:  
(12-21-2011 02:05 AM)~Russ/Rwg42985 Wrote:  
(12-20-2011 08:01 PM)gpssonar Wrote:  @ Russ
I was working at a place that makes medical supplies today. They accualy make the needles for hyperdermic needles. When i seen this, it came to my mind that several small needles like theses grouped together and silver soldered together some way would make a nice flash back arrester. You can get theses needles as less than 15 thousands dia. hole in them. Just an idea.

hey, i think phill or some one was looking in to this also. its not a bad idea.

but, what would it cost for lets say 100 of these needles?

just a thought? but i'm interested in finding out just for pure thought of cost for that type of thing.

thanks for the thoughts!!!

i have some updates to add here but i will post as a video! Smile
~Russ

box of 100 23 guage hypodermics needles only was £10/20 dollars, but the work involved is high, I was going to bundle them together with epoxy, but you need 900 of them to equal a 1/2 inch bore pipe. Im waiting on delivery of a couple of jdc flashback arrestors, the guys got some new material on order that can cope with higher flow rates.

it sure would be fun to try the needles....

also found this, or got deferred to it... : http://www.frogpondaquatics.com/product/...-6-in.html
Chris ordered one for me, its on the way, will see how it goes

also remember that I'm looking for something i can use on the flame front

so even the needles may not work... Smile melt $250 worth on needles and see what happens... lol that would not be cool!

Thanks!!!! ~Russ

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"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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If you look at stan's disk array it only consist if 6 holes in each disk and 5 disks a total of 30 holes. I think you could start with that and if you need more then add more.
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(12-28-2011 11:32 AM)gpssonar Wrote:  If you look at stan's disk array it only consist if 6 holes in each disk and 5 disks a total of 30 holes. I think you could start with that and if you need more then add more.

well, some of the patent drawings are just representations of the real thing. now the hose looks close to to the real thing bet we never have seen the disk except from this photo: (see attachment)

it may really be just a ceramic disk with some holes but if we can find something already made with more flow lets go for it! Smile

so in the photos below you can see that the center looks burnt.

i wonder if there is one .0015" hole in the center and the rest is pours material?

this way there is a nice centered flow of Browns gas and then a flow around that to help the flame? any how let me know your thoughts?

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"I had to go to a source of power greater than Stan Meyer in order to try and bring in this form of technology. And the Lord said that this knowledge of pertaining to water when he was talking to Job and he asked Job the question. He said, "Job have you ever considered the treasures of snow or have you ever considered the treasures of Hell which I have reserved against the time or trouble against battle and war". And the reason I am here today is that the multi international corporate structures can't bring in this type of technology, the Federal governments cannot bring in this technology, it has to come through an individual such as myself and it has to move through you and I. So as I impart this technology onto you, then you have a responsibility to it. This technology must get in through the people or otherwise it will not go forward." - Stan Meyer

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Russ i got a couple of these at a plant that makes ceramic jet spary nozzels awhile back. You may look into this area for your disks this one looks just like the one in your photos. I seen a video with the setup you just posted which Stan showed he could controll the single flame comming from it with the smaller valve. Once he found out what hole size would seperate the oxygen from the hydrogen as hydrogen is smaller than oxygen. When hydrogen and oxygen enters the tube the oxygen elongates because of its size and keeps them from combinding together, which prevents a flashback. The last photo came from stan's estate photos. That is the quenching tube that hooks up to the cell that you are sketching up the other end goes to the ionize air and exaust gass manifold before enetering into the injectors.
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Here is a link to a ceramic spary nozzle site. http://www.c-spray.com/uas-h-albuztec%c2...ozzle.html
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"We can demonstrate the technology. We can say it’s here but in actuality it will not be Stan Meyers to bring it in. It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come together to bring it in. Otherwise, I do not believe an alternate energy source, whether water fuel cell or other, would ever come in. It’s going to have to be mandated by the people to try to reverse the environmental problems, the environmental damage, that’s actually occurring. - Stan Meyer, 1997"

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RE: Stan's "Quenching Disk" what it is?
I found this browsing McMaster's today:[Image: compbore2s.png]
They have high temp ceramic, 18" and 24" lengths of 2 and 4 bores at 0.031" bore diameters. There is a picture of a 4 bore ceramic on this page: http://www.mcmaster.com/#raw-materials/=fnvyfn no idea if that is what it looks like. You can find them here:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#ceramic-hollow-rods/=fnw2yl

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01-04-2012, 08:13 PM
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RE: Stan's "Quenching Disk" what it is?
In one of Russ's recent video's he mentioned we were looking for .0015 to .025 dia. holes. I did the micron conversion for these and got .0015=37 microns and .025= 625 microns. Does anyone know the pat # to clarify? The holes in the quenching tube appear to be well over .0015 and may be .025. It would make sense for the disc to have a much smaller hole diameters to prevent the flashback and the holes in the tube larger to carry the gas without restriction.
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