Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed

geert8550

Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« on August 23rd, 2012, 06:15 AM »Last edited on October 14th, 2012, 01:22 PM by geert8550
Hello world

With this treath we can figure out how the Keshe generator should be made as an energy source. All useful information can be collected here for creating a 3D model or an open source prototype in the future.

Geert



I took a large portion of the patents to create a 3D model or later, an open source model.
What the noble gases concerns, I have found the following:


Gases used in the cores of the reactor-->

[0537] Choice of fuel for the proto type reactor is not very difficult.
To chose gases one has to consider most of properties of the gases under varying pressures and temperatures and magnetic filed forces. As these gases will have different and varying characteristics due to conditions and parameters within both cores of the reactor.
[0538] For the operational condition all gases are considered to be under a vacuum, and centrifuge, rotation, compressive condition, in environment in possession of one or more magnetic fields and variable temperatures.

Hydrogen

[0539] This gas will take the central position of the gases in the hart of the core, this being due to its lowest atomic weight within a vacuum chamber.
[0540] This is the favourable gas for ionisation and heating of the plasma. This element can not create radiation above the extreme ultraviolet (EUV), therefore by low that the hydrogen can release more energy then it has absorbed and by going through energy lose, that hydrogen can not release energy higher then EUV which has received from the scintillated helium.
Therefore there are no possibilities of radiation releasing higher then lower level energy EUV; therefore there is no possibility of radioactive contamination of the Caroline core.
[0541] Hydrogen gas is used for production of the plasma in the center of the core, through ionisation and in conjunction with use of argon gas as catalyst for rapids heating.
Where these ionised particle will give their energy up to the argon gas for the plasma to be heated, before return to their ground state level and trough vacuum and centrifuge back to the center of the chamber. The helium through the central column delivers where they can repeat the same with the next wave of the EUV rays.

Helium

[0542] This gas is used for verities of reasons in this reactor.
[0543] Helium liquid enters the Caroline core of the reactor through central column through separate borehole, after scintillation process, as deliver of the extreme ultraviolet source in to hydrogen gas level of this core.
[0544] Helium gas is used as part of the Caroline core as catalyst for heating up of the core, as it can absorb the right energy from some of the ionised hydrogen.
[0545] The helium can be continually be pumped with right delay factor through the borehole at its gas layer in the caroline core, that it leaves the core and returns back as the scintillators and blackout of the chamber to repeat the cycle.
[0546] Helium has cooling capability. Which this happens at pressures around 300 pisg. So when creating compression this factor becomes important. This could be used to the advantage for some systems operation mode.
[0547] As this gas is chemically and biologically inert. It is non-combustible and non-radioactive as energies at about 27 eV will never enter the core to cause the ionisation of this matter.
[0548] He in some operations could be used as coolant too.

Neon

[0549] This is the cooling gas for the reactor chambers.
[0550] Liquid Neon can be used as the scintillation material instead of liquid helium.
[0551] This is the best gas to chose, as there is little or no chance of neutron leakage from both cores.
This gas is used as insulator where the heat in the plasma needs to be maintained at high temperatures.
[0552] Where the body of the inner core has to be cooler then the outer chamber temperature, this gas is good for the outer or the last gas before the outer wall of the outer core of the reactor, where the temperature of this wall has to be at body temperature, like in cases where the reactor is used in the medical environment.
[0553] Using neon as cooling gas this encourages convection within the material immediately below it.
[0554] This gas has cooling capability of forty times better than He does. This is the cooling gas to be used in these types of systems.

Argon

[0555] The choices of using argon gas for this type of reactor are several folds.
[0556] Under pressure or vacuum argon could be a good insulator.
[0557] Argon gas is the perfect catalyst for extracting the energy from the ionised H and He in different mode of operation. Which this released energy is used to heat the plasma within the core.
[0558] Argon acts as a good electron collector, where by placing of copper electrodes on the wall of the central column at this gas layer in the caroline core, these charges could be picked up from the Argon gas layer of the core, for the reactor to be used as the electric current source of supply.
[0559] Argon can act as source of EUV/UV emitter catalyst during the operation of the core as it is polarised during the rotation and turbulence of the plasma at right temperatures and pressures in the Caroline core
[0560] The recombination of hydrogen and helium in the chamber during the compression and expansion of ionisation of gases, when the Argon gas is under pressure and it is closely packed in its layer, by pressures created by the outer core magnetic field, this increases the conductivity properties of this gas, this further enhanced by the magnetic pressures of the inner core due to turbulences.
[0561] Thus the circulation and the high conductivity of this gas in a magnetic filed and electrons field, which this gas operates in, this, creates further current flow within this layer of the cores material.
[0562] This is similar to rotation of cooper wire of a rotor cutting through the magnetic lines in a generator that creates the flow of electric current. Where the rotating copper wires is replaced by the rotation of highly conductive Argon gas saturated by charged particles of ionised hydrogen and electrons arriving constantly from the center of the core internally outwards.
[0563] Where the quantity of the electric power produces becomes a function of the speed of the rotation of argon gas. Then this can hold vice versa for the creation of the magnetic filed force too.
[0564] Then the potency and importance of the choice of this gas layer will become apparent.

[0565] An important factor that this gas will have in this reactor will be due to its ability to receive energy from electrons and ionised hydrogen gas, as they return to their ground state, or before they are absorbed by the copper pickup for the current out put of the reactor.
[0566] What is significant with positioning of this gas, is that due to positioning of neon gas in the core, which behaves as insulation in this layer of the caroline core, the neon gas being under pressure due to operation of the reactor and due to its volume ration in the core will become a heat barrier for the separating the heat generated in the hydrogen side away from the argon side of this gas layer causing the plasma to heat up.
[0567] Neon plays the same roll in reveres and keeps the heat created in the argon layer away from the plasma in the center of the core too, up to a large extent.
[0568] Therefore majority of the heat delivered to the argon layer will go up towards the inner core boundary, for it to be transferred to the outer core for its materials to be heated up, helping with input of heat in that core necessary for the convection of the matter needed for creation of current and magnetic field in the outer core.
[0569] Therefore the thickness of the neon layer as its volume ratio of the core will have direct effect on the performance of the core operation and the outcome of the power and gravity produced by the system as a whole.

Krypton

[0570] This gas is primarily used in the Caroline core.
[0571] Krypton has a good insulating properties. Especially when it is used in vacuum in conjunction with magnetic and molecular forces.
[0572] Krypton in the reactors are used where there is a weak possibility of low energy neutrons and gamma rays. This is a better choice of gas than xenon.
[0573] Krypton has to be at lest the last gas in any reactor, as argon can never under any circumstances come in touch directly with body of the inner core. This being due to the fact that argon is the current carrier in the core.

Xenon

[0574] This is good as the last layer gas in the inner chamber.
[0575] Xenon by having a large absorption cross section is the best inert gas for the absorption of any neutron loose in the reactor core.
[0576] This gas layer has to be monitored at all time for it's poisoning neutron effect, that hot spot of the material of the inner core due to this effect does not become a possibility.
[0577] Xenon exhibits a highly non-liner behaviour of density against pressure. That is why it is better to have a layer of Krypton a head of this gas in the Caroline core.

Radon

[0578] This is one of the most important inert gases for this type of reactor operation.
[0579] This gas will carry the element of scintillation of the helium gas, at this stage of patent this gas will not be used as part of the core.


I understood that many components and ways of working are important. Here are some that I collected to broadly understand how the device would look like.

•   A spherical self-rotating reactor core spins inside a set(s) of coils. On the reactor-body additional magnets can be mounted.
•   The magnetic force field has to be created and maintained from the inner part to radiate out and thus allowing creation of the second magnetic field force inwards, to contain the plasma within the center of the core.
•   The method which is claimed in this patent application is such that - under centrifugal and vacuum conditions - a turbulence, rotation, compressive and heating of a gaseous matter is created in a reactor by at least one central rotative magnetic field with the purpose of creating plasmatic conditions leading to various physical phenomena.
•   Scintillation is the ignition key for start of creation of any system.
•   From past research it is understood that gases in a vacuum and centrifuged encapsulate each other according to their atomic weight, from the lighter gases in the center of the cluster and the heaviest on the outer layers.
•   This means that neon will encapsulate helium and heavier gas will encapsulate the neon and so on.
•   The second important principal for inert gas laws is that they do not mix with each other in a vacume and centrifuges condition.
•   Either is completely immobile (fixed)(Fig. 9) but which has on it's surface at least one set of electro-magnets (90) and/or coils which can be activated (92A) or deactivated (92D) - possible wise controlled by electronic means (i.e. a microchip 93) - in a preferred periodical and/or positional way, which - preferable - can change polarity and/or strength (92A, 92B, 92C), that way able to create turbulence in the center core, and/or in other superior cores.
•   The central column possible wise can have at least one electrode (17B) - but very preferable several - to collect electric current for transportation (17C) to the outside of the reactor. This way the currents can be collected for several purposes.
•   After the initial mechanical rotation (i.e. at 3,000 rpm) and/or electromagnetic triggered rotation the internal rotation (50) will be continued due the interaction of the magnetic fields involved (self-sustained process), in correspondence with one of more core-layers and their containment.
•    The reactor body contains at least two separate hollow spaces of identical or different dimensions,
•   The reactor body may contains at least two separate material cores (i.e. by a wall-layer 14A), a larger encircling a smaller, and each may have a proper internal independent process, and magnetic interactions may occur between their magnetic fields, and matters may be exchanged between physically separated chambers (28C and 28D) by connection means (58).
•   Of course an very important application and method is related to the generation of electrical power, using one or more materials in the cavities, by the use of collection of the appropriate charge particles from the right electrodes specially positioned in the He (83) and Ar (82) layers or on the appropriate material layer.

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #1, on August 23rd, 2012, 06:58 AM »
Quote from geert8550 on August 23rd, 2012, 06:15 AM
Hello world

With this treath we can figure out how the Keshe generator should be made as an energy source. All useful information can be collected here for creating a 3D model or an open source prototype in the future.

Geert



I took a large portion of the patents to create a 3D model or later, an open source model.
What the noble gases concerns, I have found the following:


Gases used in the cores of the reactor-->

[0537] Choice of fuel for the proto type reactor is not very difficult.
To chose gases one has to consider most of properties of the gases under varying pressures and temperatures and magnetic filed forces. As these gases will have different and varying characteristics due to conditions and parameters within both cores of the reactor.
[0538] For the operational condition all gases are considered to be under a vacuum, and centrifuge, rotation, compressive condition, in environment in possession of one or more magnetic fields and variable temperatures.

Hydrogen

[0539] This gas will take the central position of the gases in the hart of the core, this being due to its lowest atomic weight within a vacuum chamber.
[0540] This is the favourable gas for ionisation and heating of the plasma. This element can not create radiation above the extreme ultraviolet (EUV), therefore by low that the hydrogen can release more energy then it has absorbed and by going through energy lose, that hydrogen can not release energy higher then EUV which has received from the scintillated helium.
Therefore there are no possibilities of radiation releasing higher then lower level energy EUV; therefore there is no possibility of radioactive contamination of the Caroline core.
[0541] Hydrogen gas is used for production of the plasma in the center of the core, through ionisation and in conjunction with use of argon gas as catalyst for rapids heating.
Where these ionised particle will give their energy up to the argon gas for the plasma to be heated, before return to their ground state level and trough vacuum and centrifuge back to the center of the chamber. The helium through the central column delivers where they can repeat the same with the next wave of the EUV rays.

Helium

[0542] This gas is used for verities of reasons in this reactor.
[0543] Helium liquid enters the Caroline core of the reactor through central column through separate borehole, after scintillation process, as deliver of the extreme ultraviolet source in to hydrogen gas level of this core.
[0544] Helium gas is used as part of the Caroline core as catalyst for heating up of the core, as it can absorb the right energy from some of the ionised hydrogen.
[0545] The helium can be continually be pumped with right delay factor through the borehole at its gas layer in the caroline core, that it leaves the core and returns back as the scintillators and blackout of the chamber to repeat the cycle.
[0546] Helium has cooling capability. Which this happens at pressures around 300 pisg. So when creating compression this factor becomes important. This could be used to the advantage for some systems operation mode.
[0547] As this gas is chemically and biologically inert. It is non-combustible and non-radioactive as energies at about 27 eV will never enter the core to cause the ionisation of this matter.
[0548] He in some operations could be used as coolant too.

Neon

[0549] This is the cooling gas for the reactor chambers.
[0550] Liquid Neon can be used as the scintillation material instead of liquid helium.
[0551] This is the best gas to chose, as there is little or no chance of neutron leakage from both cores.
This gas is used as insulator where the heat in the plasma needs to be maintained at high temperatures.
[0552] Where the body of the inner core has to be cooler then the outer chamber temperature, this gas is good for the outer or the last gas before the outer wall of the outer core of the reactor, where the temperature of this wall has to be at body temperature, like in cases where the reactor is used in the medical environment.
[0553] Using neon as cooling gas this encourages convection within the material immediately below it.
[0554] This gas has cooling capability of forty times better than He does. This is the cooling gas to be used in these types of systems.

Argon

[0555] The choices of using argon gas for this type of reactor are several folds.
[0556] Under pressure or vacuum argon could be a good insulator.
[0557] Argon gas is the perfect catalyst for extracting the energy from the ionised H and He in different mode of operation. Which this released energy is used to heat the plasma within the core.
[0558] Argon acts as a good electron collector, where by placing of copper electrodes on the wall of the central column at this gas layer in the caroline core, these charges could be picked up from the Argon gas layer of the core, for the reactor to be used as the electric current source of supply.
[0559] Argon can act as source of EUV/UV emitter catalyst during the operation of the core as it is polarised during the rotation and turbulence of the plasma at right temperatures and pressures in the Caroline core
[0560] The recombination of hydrogen and helium in the chamber during the compression and expansion of ionisation of gases, when the Argon gas is under pressure and it is closely packed in its layer, by pressures created by the outer core magnetic field, this increases the conductivity properties of this gas, this further enhanced by the magnetic pressures of the inner core due to turbulences.
[0561] Thus the circulation and the high conductivity of this gas in a magnetic filed and electrons field, which this gas operates in, this, creates further current flow within this layer of the cores material.
[0562] This is similar to rotation of cooper wire of a rotor cutting through the magnetic lines in a generator that creates the flow of electric current. Where the rotating copper wires is replaced by the rotation of highly conductive Argon gas saturated by charged particles of ionised hydrogen and electrons arriving constantly from the center of the core internally outwards.
[0563] Where the quantity of the electric power produces becomes a function of the speed of the rotation of argon gas. Then this can hold vice versa for the creation of the magnetic filed force too.
[0564] Then the potency and importance of the choice of this gas layer will become apparent.

[0565] An important factor that this gas will have in this reactor will be due to its ability to receive energy from electrons and ionised hydrogen gas, as they return to their ground state, or before they are absorbed by the copper pickup for the current out put of the reactor.
[0566] What is significant with positioning of this gas, is that due to positioning of neon gas in the core, which behaves as insulation in this layer of the caroline core, the neon gas being under pressure due to operation of the reactor and due to its volume ration in the core will become a heat barrier for the separating the heat generated in the hydrogen side away from the argon side of this gas layer causing the plasma to heat up.
[0567] Neon plays the same roll in reveres and keeps the heat created in the argon layer away from the plasma in the center of the core too, up to a large extent.
[0568] Therefore majority of the heat delivered to the argon layer will go up towards the inner core boundary, for it to be transferred to the outer core for its materials to be heated up, helping with input of heat in that core necessary for the convection of the matter needed for creation of current and magnetic field in the outer core.
[0569] Therefore the thickness of the neon layer as its volume ratio of the core will have direct effect on the performance of the core operation and the outcome of the power and gravity produced by the system as a whole.

Krypton

[0570] This gas is primarily used in the Caroline core.
[0571] Krypton has a good insulating properties. Especially when it is used in vacuum in conjunction with magnetic and molecular forces.
[0572] Krypton in the reactors are used where there is a weak possibility of low energy neutrons and gamma rays. This is a better choice of gas than xenon.
[0573] Krypton has to be at lest the last gas in any reactor, as argon can never under any circumstances come in touch directly with body of the inner core. This being due to the fact that argon is the current carrier in the core.

Xenon

[0574] This is good as the last layer gas in the inner chamber.
[0575] Xenon by having a large absorption cross section is the best inert gas for the absorption of any neutron loose in the reactor core.
[0576] This gas layer has to be monitored at all time for it's poisoning neutron effect, that hot spot of the material of the inner core due to this effect does not become a possibility.
[0577] Xenon exhibits a highly non-liner behaviour of density against pressure. That is why it is better to have a layer of Krypton a head of this gas in the Caroline core.

Radon

[0578] This is one of the most important inert gases for this type of reactor operation.
[0579] This gas will carry the element of scintillation of the helium gas, at this stage of patent this gas will not be used as part of the core.


I understood that many components and ways of working are important. Here are some that I collected to broadly understand how the device would look like.

•   A spherical self-rotating reactor core spins inside a set(s) of coils. On the reactor-body additional magnets can be mounted.
•   The magnetic force field has to be created and maintained from the inner part to radiate out and thus allowing creation of the second magnetic field force inwards, to contain the plasma within the center of the core.
•   The method which is claimed in this patent application is such that - under centrifugal and vacuum conditions - a turbulence, rotation, compressive and heating of a gaseous matter is created in a reactor by at least one central rotative magnetic field with the purpose of creating plasmatic conditions leading to various physical phenomena.
•   Scintillation is the ignition key for start of creation of any system.
•   From past research it is understood that gases in a vacuum and centrifuged encapsulate each other according to their atomic weight, from the lighter gases in the center of the cluster and the heaviest on the outer layers.
•   This means that neon will encapsulate helium and heavier gas will encapsulate the neon and so on.
•   The second important principal for inert gas laws is that they do not mix with each other in a vacume and centrifuges condition.
•   Either is completely immobile (fixed)(Fig. 9) but which has on it's surface at least one set of electro-magnets (90) and/or coils which can be activated (92A) or deactivated (92D) - possible wise controlled by electronic means (i.e. a microchip 93) - in a preferred periodical and/or positional way, which - preferable - can change polarity and/or strength (92A, 92B, 92C), that way able to create turbulence in the center core, and/or in other superior cores.
•   The central column possible wise can have at least one electrode (17B) - but very preferable several - to collect electric current for transportation (17C) to the outside of the reactor. This way the currents can be collected for several purposes.
•   After the initial mechanical rotation (i.e. at 3,000 rpm) and/or electromagnetic triggered rotation the internal rotation (50) will be continued due the interaction of the magnetic fields involved (self-sustained process), in correspondence with one of more core-layers and their containment.
•    The reactor body contains at least two separate hollow spaces of identical or different dimensions,
•   The reactor body may contains at least two separate material cores (i.e. by a wall-layer 14A), a larger encircling a smaller, and each may have a proper internal independent process, and magnetic interactions may occur between their magnetic fields, and matters may be exchanged between physically separated chambers (28C and 28D) by connection means (58).
•   Of course an very important application and method is related to the generation of electrical power, using one or more materials in the cavities, by the use of collection of the appropriate charge particles from the right electrodes specially positioned in the He (83) and Ar (82) layers or on the appropriate material layer.
Thanks Geert , this has possibilities.:D

Hydron

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #2, on August 23rd, 2012, 03:43 PM »
Nice post! Parts of it remind me of Meyer's EPG. Very interesting, thank you!

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #3, on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM »
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #4, on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #5, on September 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM »Last edited on September 18th, 2012, 11:40 PM by geert8550
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D
The purpose of this model is to clarify to people how the principle of the device would be.
The inner core spins around at high speed in order to obtain a centrifugal effect. I would think this process generates itself as a planet spins on its own. The first models (copper model) had a viewing window on the outside to see the scintilation. I therefore believe that the inner core is transparent and contains no metal so as not to influence the magnetic force.
The scintillation occurs between the housing and the inner core which is radon gas. For example, anti-gravity, scintilation MUST take place to achieve the desired process. By scintillation light is created as in the sun.
I already have an idea how the generators on the images are constructed, there is still a lot involved to already start a constuction. I hope that we will receive some more information to build a generator.
I think the housing of the models in the pictures are of cast aluminum, what is your specialty Jeff. :D
If we later learn about the structure, as Mr. Keshe promised, then we can make the final 3D models. :dodgy:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Geert

FaradayEZ

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #6, on September 19th, 2012, 04:48 AM »
Geert:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Hallo Geert,

(Bedankt voor de interessante informatie. [Dutch]) Thanks for the information. I've put myself just recently up as a volunteer for the Kesh-foundation, but when following his video's i find it really hard what to imagine around his words. Its such a new approach that i sometimes wish someone else would explain it..as if he already is too far into it?

So it makes me glad to see that you try to make the connexion to us here, viewing the world mostly in an old mechanical way?

And also you can copy your input here (later) on other new energy fora, so its no waste and a needed effort in my opinion.

For right now it would be helpful to our project with the Papp engine, which uses a plasma..to know how we can excite that plasma. Do you know how to calculate what frequencies we have to use to resonate with 2He and 3He and with the other components in the noble gasmixture?
see thread..rwgresearch/lets built a popper engine...






Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #7, on September 19th, 2012, 06:33 AM »
Hi Geert, anything you can offer as to replicate Keshe's devise is appreciated, I for one would be willing to cast the aluminum casing needed, then go from there.:cool::D:P

Gunther Rattay

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #8, on September 19th, 2012, 07:52 AM »Last edited on September 19th, 2012, 08:05 AM by bussi04
Quote from geert8550 on September 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D
The purpose of this model is to clarify to people how the principle of the device would be.
The inner core spins around at high speed in order to obtain a centrifugal effect. I would think this process generates itself as a planet spins on its own. The first models (copper model) had a viewing window on the outside to see the scintilation. I therefore believe that the inner core is transparent and contains no metal so as not to influence the magnetic force.
The scintillation occurs between the housing and the inner core which is radon gas. For example, anti-gravity, scintilation MUST take place to achieve the desired process. By scintillation light is created as in the sun.
I already have an idea how the generators on the images are constructed, there is still a lot involved to already start a constuction. I hope that we will receive some more information to build a generator.
I think the housing of the models in the pictures are of cast aluminum, what is your specialty Jeff. :D
If we later learn about the structure, as Mr. Keshe promised, then we can make the final 3D models. :dodgy:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Geert
I have watches some of Keshe´s videos and I have read book 1 up to page 170 now. It´s full of interesting information.

In his most recent interview on Sept. 2nd at smartscarecrow Keshe mentioned that a nuclear engineer will be able to replicate the reactor with understanding of book 1 to 4 information. He also tells that that technology can be harmful to those not educated because one is dealing with the fundamental forces = magnetic fields. wrong field strength may bring severe injury to testers.

I assume it´s the same like Stan Meyer replication. trial and error is no way going but with Keshe´s tech there is fundamental effects like strong radiation etc. when fine tuned wrong way.
Keshe describes how magnetic fields interact in human body and how selective manipulation of magnetic fields can change gravity OR can change human body cell system (i.e. cancer or MS). that´s the reason why his discoveries also are useful for human health section.
But doing the wrong things will have opposite effects.

So be careful! It´s different from hobbyist projects.

My best guess: let´s wait for the publications starting from Sept. 21st to nuclear scientists.

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #9, on September 19th, 2012, 08:01 AM »
In his most recent interview on Sept. 2nd at smartscarecrow Keshe mentioned that a nuclear engineer will be able to replicate the reactor with understanding of book 1 to 4 information. He also tells that that technology can be harmful to those not educated because one is dealing with the fundamental forces = magnetic fields. wrong field strength may bring severe injury to testers.


 Yes I agree, the only safe way of replicating Keshe's design's is to follow his lead by obtaining the PDF files free, when they are released the 21rst  of September.:cool::D:P

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #10, on September 19th, 2012, 11:30 AM »Last edited on September 19th, 2012, 11:32 AM by geert8550
Quote from bussi04 on September 19th, 2012, 07:52 AM
Quote from geert8550 on September 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D
The purpose of this model is to clarify to people how the principle of the device would be.
The inner core spins around at high speed in order to obtain a centrifugal effect. I would think this process generates itself as a planet spins on its own. The first models (copper model) had a viewing window on the outside to see the scintilation. I therefore believe that the inner core is transparent and contains no metal so as not to influence the magnetic force.
The scintillation occurs between the housing and the inner core which is radon gas. For example, anti-gravity, scintilation MUST take place to achieve the desired process. By scintillation light is created as in the sun.
I already have an idea how the generators on the images are constructed, there is still a lot involved to already start a constuction. I hope that we will receive some more information to build a generator.
I think the housing of the models in the pictures are of cast aluminum, what is your specialty Jeff. :D
If we later learn about the structure, as Mr. Keshe promised, then we can make the final 3D models. :dodgy:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Geert
I have watches some of Keshe´s videos and I have read book 1 up to page 170 now. It´s full of interesting information.

In his most recent interview on Sept. 2nd at smartscarecrow Keshe mentioned that a nuclear engineer will be able to replicate the reactor with understanding of book 1 to 4 information. He also tells that that technology can be harmful to those not educated because one is dealing with the fundamental forces = magnetic fields. wrong field strength may bring severe injury to testers.

I assume it´s the same like Stan Meyer replication. trial and error is no way going but with Keshe´s tech there is fundamental effects like strong radiation etc. when fine tuned wrong way.
Keshe describes how magnetic fields interact in human body and how selective manipulation of magnetic fields can change gravity OR can change human body cell system (i.e. cancer or MS). that´s the reason why his discoveries also are useful for human health section.
But doing the wrong things will have opposite effects.

So be careful! It´s different from hobbyist projects.

My best guess: let´s wait for the publications starting from Sept. 21st to nuclear scientists.
Agree, we must have patience. My mean thing with this tread is not immediately switch to copy the device. I'm trying to figure out how this generator is constructed and share it with the world, it is very simple indeed compared with devices from stanley and other inventors. With 3D models can be better brainstormed about the concept, the safety and functionality of the structure. For now I want to keep it that way.
In mean i have made the coke bottle plasma generator. I still have some reading material to proceed to test. Report follows.

Geert

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #11, on September 19th, 2012, 11:40 AM »
Wow Geert the "coke bottle plasma generator" :huh: did it work to your expectations, what did it generate?:cool::D

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #12, on September 21st, 2012, 04:23 AM »Last edited on September 21st, 2012, 04:25 AM by geert8550
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 19th, 2012, 11:40 AM
Wow Geert the "coke bottle plasma generator" :huh: did it work to your expectations, what did it generate?:cool::D
I post photos later. First some research for the liquid.:idea:
I have some new information on the material from which the inner core is made. I check and post a little later.

Abbarue

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #13, on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM »
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
 

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #14, on September 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM »Last edited on September 25th, 2012, 06:21 PM by Jeff Nading
Quote from Abbarue on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
Welcome Harold, we try to keep up as developments unfold on Keshe's technology. Point of interest is that a member Geert lives in Belgium, has been to some of the Keshe seminars and Keshe's books are going to be released on PDF for free in the coming months, can't wait for that, glad to have you, Jeff.:D

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #15, on September 26th, 2012, 04:47 AM »Last edited on September 26th, 2012, 05:13 AM by geert8550
Last weekend I made the cola plasma reactor. I used copper nails with large flat head. The liquid I used was regular cola with 5 cl sodium hydroxide as catalist. The first hour I got no voltage, after I was measuring up to 35 mV without the electrodes touching the liquid, a test with one electrode in the liquid got 785 mv. After ten minutes back to nothing (0.5 mV), the electrodes are blackened with graphene. I did the test by loosening the electrodes lay them on top of each other to take a measurement and the graphene seems fully to isolate the two from each other.

There was someone on the Keshe forum who recharged a cellphone with it, I just try to get in touch with him for more information.

I think I understand how it works. The CO2 in the cola is essential for these tests. By CO2 and the catalist a moliculaire hydrogen is formed (free hydrogen atoms> not H2 but H). Graphene is deposited on the electrodes as a side effect and thus the CO2 captured. The KT-liquid is the liquid CO2 created by their unit.

Posting foto's later on.

Geert

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #16, on September 26th, 2012, 06:17 AM »
Quote from geert8550 on September 26th, 2012, 04:47 AM
Last weekend I made the cola plasma reactor. I used copper nails with large flat head. The liquid I used was regular cola with 5 cl sodium hydroxide as catalist. The first hour I got no voltage, after I was measuring up to 35 mV without the electrodes touching the liquid, a test with one electrode in the liquid got 785 mv. After ten minutes back to nothing (0.5 mV), the electrodes are blackened with graphene. I did the test by loosening the electrodes lay them on top of each other to take a measurement and the graphene seems fully to isolate the two from each other.

There was someone on the Keshe forum who recharged a cellphone with it, I just try to get in touch with him for more information.

I think I understand how it works. The CO2 in the cola is essential for these tests. By CO2 and the catalist a moliculaire hydrogen is formed (free hydrogen atoms> not H2 but H). Graphene is deposited on the electrodes as a side effect and thus the CO2 captured. The KT-liquid is the liquid CO2 created by their unit.

Posting foto's later on.

Geert
That sounds very promising Geert, can't wait to see the photos.:D

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #17, on September 26th, 2012, 10:31 AM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Quote from Abbarue on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
Welcome Harold, we try to keep up as developments unfold on Keshe's technology. Point of interest is that a member Geert lives in Belgium, has been to some of the Keshe seminars and Keshe's books are going to be released on PDF for free in the coming months, can't wait for that, glad to have you, Jeff.:D
Jeff

The existing books will probably not be published freely. Mr. Keshe announced in his article that the following four new books that are published in PDF format.
Quote:
"In line with our programs and the opening of the Keshe Foundation research and development program, the Foundation has set out to prepare and publish four new books in PDF form."
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506

Geert

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #18, on September 26th, 2012, 06:10 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on September 26th, 2012, 10:31 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Quote from Abbarue on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
Welcome Harold, we try to keep up as developments unfold on Keshe's technology. Point of interest is that a member Geert lives in Belgium, has been to some of the Keshe seminars and Keshe's books are going to be released on PDF for free in the coming months, can't wait for that, glad to have you, Jeff.:D
Jeff

The existing books will probably not be published freely. Mr. Keshe announced in his article that the following four new books that are published in PDF format.
Quote:
"In line with our programs and the opening of the Keshe Foundation research and development program, the Foundation has set out to prepare and publish four new books in PDF form."
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506

Geert
Oh ok, thanks for telling me Geert.:D

Abbarue

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #19, on September 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM »
In the short interview after the Sept. 21 event Mr. Keshe stated that the lessons will be posted in 1/2 hour parts with a pay tab after each one.  
He said if you want to pay you can, but if you don't have money you can still get the lessons.  My guess is that he will be doing the same thing with the pdf books as well.  

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #20, on September 26th, 2012, 11:07 PM »
Quote from Abbarue on September 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM
In the short interview after the Sept. 21 event Mr. Keshe stated that the lessons will be posted in 1/2 hour parts with a pay tab after each one.  
He said if you want to pay you can, but if you don't have money you can still get the lessons.  My guess is that he will be doing the same thing with the pdf books as well.
Yes indeed, I hope this promise does not last too long. Soon is quite relative.

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #21, on September 27th, 2012, 06:28 AM »
Quote from Abbarue on September 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM
In the short interview after the Sept. 21 event Mr. Keshe stated that the lessons will be posted in 1/2 hour parts with a pay tab after each one.  
He said if you want to pay you can, but if you don't have money you can still get the lessons.  My guess is that he will be doing the same thing with the pdf books as well.
I , we can only hope.:D

pmam

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #22, on September 28th, 2012, 06:25 PM »
Hi Geert,

can you post the step by step How-To information?

That will be awesome!
I'm looking forward to replicating your method!

Paul

geert8550

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #23, on September 30th, 2012, 01:00 PM »
Quote from pmam on September 28th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Hi Geert,

can you post the step by step How-To information?

That will be awesome!
I'm looking forward to replicating your method!

Paul
Paul
I promise to report it next week. I test this week yet another catalyst.
I'm allso busy thinking of the construction of the device that Keshe hold in the hands.:idea:

Geert

Jeff Nading

RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
« Reply #24, on September 30th, 2012, 01:20 PM »
Quote from geert8550 on September 30th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Quote from pmam on September 28th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Hi Geert,

can you post the step by step How-To information?

That will be awesome!
I'm looking forward to replicating your method!

Paul
Paul
I promise to report it next week. I test this week yet another catalyst.
I'm allso busy thinking of the construction of the device that Keshe hold in the hands.:idea:

Geert
Really cool Geert, look forward:cool::D:P to that .