Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.

~Russ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #125, on September 2nd, 2012, 07:42 PM »Last edited on September 3rd, 2012, 06:36 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Interesting Jeff, got some photos of that puppy! Also if it works, I'll use it as a vacuum pump! think we can get 30" of mercy out of it?  

Chris, looks like we are both right...

Now you will just need to wait Till this is is done uploading:

Update 3 NGE Papp: Testing Syringes, Needles, septa & Fittings  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDCBdkMHSQ

Enjoy!

~Russ

Jeff Nading

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #126, on September 2nd, 2012, 07:49 PM »Last edited on September 3rd, 2012, 12:50 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 2nd, 2012, 07:42 PM
Interesting Jeff, got some photos of that puppy! Also if it works, I'll use it as a vacuum pump! think we can get 30" of mercy out of it?  

Chris, looks like we are both right...

Now you will just need to wait Till this is is done uploading: update 3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDCBdkMHSQ

Enjoy!

~Russ
That will work Russ.:cool::D

FaradayEZ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #127, on September 3rd, 2012, 09:31 AM »Last edited on September 3rd, 2012, 12:51 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 2nd, 2012, 07:49 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 2nd, 2012, 07:42 PM
Interesting Jeff, got some photos of that puppy! Also if it works, I'll use it as a vacuum pump! think we can get 30" of mercy out of it?  

Chris, looks like we are both right...

Now you will just need to wait Till this is is done uploading: update 3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDCBdkMHSQ

Enjoy!

~Russ
That will work Russ.:cool::D
Hmm can't see either one of them... first says :  video unavailable..second one says this is a duplicate of an already uploaded one..and it doesn't play it.....

Greetzz...

EZ

~Russ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #128, on September 3rd, 2012, 09:53 AM »Last edited on September 3rd, 2012, 12:51 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from FaradayEZ on September 3rd, 2012, 09:31 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 2nd, 2012, 07:49 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 2nd, 2012, 07:42 PM
Interesting Jeff, got some photos of that puppy! Also if it works, I'll use it as a vacuum pump! think we can get 30" of mercy out of it?  

Chris, looks like we are both right...

Now you will just need to wait Till this is is done uploading: update 3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDCBdkMHSQ

Enjoy!

~Russ
That will work Russ.:cool::D
Hmm can't see either one of them... first says :  video unavailable..second one says this is a duplicate of an already uploaded one..and it doesn't play it.....

Greetzz...

EZ
Lol I uploaded the wrong one and now re uploading the new one. Lol I'll go back and edit the post's once there all done...

;) only human! Lol

~Russ
RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #129, on September 3rd, 2012, 12:52 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 3rd, 2012, 09:53 AM
Quote from FaradayEZ on September 3rd, 2012, 09:31 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 2nd, 2012, 07:49 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on September 2nd, 2012, 07:42 PM
Interesting Jeff, got some photos of that puppy! Also if it works, I'll use it as a vacuum pump! think we can get 30" of mercy out of it?  

Chris, looks like we are both right...

Now you will just need to wait Till this is is done uploading: update 3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDCBdkMHSQ

Enjoy!

~Russ
That will work Russ.:cool::D
Hmm can't see either one of them... first says :  video unavailable..second one says this is a duplicate of an already uploaded one..and it doesn't play it.....

Greetzz...

EZ
Lol I uploaded the wrong one and now re uploading the new one. Lol I'll go back and edit the post's once there all done...

;) only human! Lol

~Russ
Ok all done! ;) enjoy!

~Russ

FaradayEZ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #130, on September 3rd, 2012, 01:49 PM »


Lol I uploaded the wrong one and now re uploading the new one. Lol I'll go back and edit the post's once there all done...

;) only human! Lol

~Russ



Ok all done! ;) enjoy!

~Russ


Thx Russ, i just saw the vid on rwgresearch at video's there it was ok :)

Am curious what the inside of the chamber is going to be!!

And i'm worried if your chamber is that big (volume) if that is not getting a bit dangerous? And allso more expensive in gas usages (yeah i'm dutch i look also at the pennies;)  )

Greetingss and wished succes

Erik






~Russ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #131, on September 3rd, 2012, 04:24 PM »
Quote from FaradayEZ on September 3rd, 2012, 01:49 PM
Lol I uploaded the wrong one and now re uploading the new one. Lol I'll go back and edit the post's once there all done...

;) only human! Lol

~Russ



Ok all done! ;) enjoy!

~Russ


Thx Russ, i just saw the vid on rwgresearch at video's there it was ok :)

Am curious what the inside of the chamber is going to be!!

And i'm worried if your chamber is that big (volume) if that is not getting a bit dangerous? And allso more expensive in gas usages (yeah i'm dutch i look also at the pennies;)  )

Greetingss and wished succes

Erik
Yes, this was just to test the septa and other stuff at the moment.

I have a cylinder on the way, when I get it I'll be replicating what BOb has done as I feel it should be eazy to do as i have seen alot of photos and video of bobs set up. I will also test the RF and strontium as intelagentry states it will work... Haven't seen them show that so that is second on my list...

~Russ


RussLinzmeier

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #132, on September 3rd, 2012, 09:41 PM »
Greetings , I've been researching the noble gas engine scince the mid 90s and my conclusion is that the majority of the power from the spark induced reaction of the noble gases comes from the helium in the mix that unpairs its electrons and promotes one of them to the 2s state .  This change in the electrons orbits is where the the zero point energy flows in , the other gases in the mix just facilitate the reaction , adding electrons , cooling , maybe adding photons to the reaction to amplify it if the cylinder heads and piston tops are polished to reflect and amplify the photons like a laser .  Robert Britt's patent for a noble gas engine #3,977,191 shows a noble gas engine that doesn't bother to cool the reaction , his design just uses a radiator between the top of the cylinder and the reaction chamber . William Lyne is the guy to google if you want research this stuff .  Bob Rohner hints to you guys that the secret is with the helium in one of his posts and no one picked up on it . Peace and happiness to all !  

~Russ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #133, on September 3rd, 2012, 10:34 PM »
Quote from RussLinzmeier on September 3rd, 2012, 09:41 PM
Greetings , I've been researching the noble gas engine scince the mid 90s and my conclusion is that the majority of the power from the spark induced reaction of the noble gases comes from the helium in the mix that unpairs its electrons and promotes one of them to the 2s state .  This change in the electrons orbits is where the the zero point energy flows in , the other gases in the mix just facilitate the reaction , adding electrons , cooling , maybe adding photons to the reaction to amplify it if the cylinder heads and piston tops are polished to reflect and amplify the photons like a laser .  Robert Britt's patent for a noble gas engine #3,977,191 shows a noble gas engine that doesn't bother to cool the reaction , his design just uses a radiator between the top of the cylinder and the reaction chamber . William Lyne is the guy to google if you want research this stuff .  Bob Rohner hints to you guys that the secret is with the helium in one of his posts and no one picked up on it . Peace and happiness to all !
welcome,

i think we picked up on the "secret is with the helium", well at least i did but did not post on it as i haven't anything to say... lol not yet anyway.

i also attached a copy of the patent you deferred to,

welcome and thanks for joining! Group effort! glad your here!

~Russ

FaradayEZ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #134, on September 4th, 2012, 02:41 AM »
Quote from RussLinzmeier on September 3rd, 2012, 09:41 PM
Greetings , I've been researching the noble gas engine scince the mid 90s and my conclusion is that the majority of the power from the spark induced reaction of the noble gases comes from the helium in the mix that unpairs its electrons and promotes one of them to the 2s state .  This change in the electrons orbits is where the the zero point energy flows in , the other gases in the mix just facilitate the reaction , adding electrons , cooling , maybe adding photons to the reaction to amplify it if the cylinder heads and piston tops are polished to reflect and amplify the photons like a laser .  Robert Britt's patent for a noble gas engine #3,977,191 shows a noble gas engine that doesn't bother to cool the reaction , his design just uses a radiator between the top of the cylinder and the reaction chamber . William Lyne is the guy to google if you want research this stuff .  Bob Rohner hints to you guys that the secret is with the helium in one of his posts and no one picked up on it . Peace and happiness to all !
Hi Russ-2, welcome to the project!!

So you got it to work? That's great! If you read my posts here you'll see that i even wondered if the reaction could be done in normal air because the piston video
gave such a light and bang when totally open. And i also hoped that the concept would work with just helium, even the 93% stuff. I suspect that the patents make the process more difficult then needed.

Anyhows... the world needs the new technologies and to combat the old interest we need a whole lot of people being able to make the engine. Its not a thing anymore for making a whole lot of money. And there seem to be a lot of ways
to get to free energy. Sharing the info is battling against the old dragon!

So please...

Please share enough info to get this job done.

Can you help with the key question i posted before?

How can we excite the helium to the state that an arc will give the expansion?
Do we really need the exotic elements (thorium etc) or is there a resonant frequency to be used via coils or RF?

And does the arc need a special frequency or voltage or current?

Thanx in advance and glad you ever took an interest in the Papp engine

Erik v.d. Zee








RussLinzmeier

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #135, on September 4th, 2012, 08:19 AM »
  Hello ,  no i don't have a running engine but I have a few suggestions on how to build a popper that may or may not be helpfull . I suspect that all the stuff in the patents that pertains to radioactive materials and high voltage discharges or CB radio antennaes is there to facilitate the thing thats creating the reaction , the component of the engine thats making it work is the lower voltage / high amperage electric arc . A welder gets his low voltage high amperage machine to start by draging the welding rod across the work piece . If you are just building a popper you could design a mechanical system to strike an arc from a mig welder or stick welder .  You couldn't make a running engine out of something like that but it might get the helium to pop . Use the power supply of the welder to connect to 2 tungsten electrodes in the reaction chamber that momentarily scrape against each other to strike an arc and see if the helium will pop . I haven't done this yet myself , it might be a waste of time .  Just wanted to suggest it for what its worth . Peace and happiness to all . Russ

Hi Russ-2, welcome to the project!!

So you got it to work? That's great! If you read my posts here you'll see that i even wondered if the reaction could be done in normal air because the piston video
gave such a light and bang when totally open. And i also hoped that the concept would work with just helium, even the 93% stuff. I suspect that the patents make the process more difficult then needed.

Anyhows... the world needs the new technologies and to combat the old interest we need a whole lot of people being able to make the engine. Its not a thing anymore for making a whole lot of money. And there seem to be a lot of ways
to get to free energy. Sharing the info is battling against the old dragon!

So please...

Please share enough info to get this job done.

Can you help with the key question i posted before?

How can we excite the helium to the state that an arc will give the expansion?
Do we really need the exotic elements (thorium etc) or is there a resonant frequency to be used via coils or RF?

And does the arc need a special frequency or voltage or current?

Thanx in advance and glad you ever took an interest in the Papp engine

Erik v.d. Zee[/quote]

zerwell

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #136, on September 4th, 2012, 10:41 AM »
Hello Russ,

I joined the group last week.  I Enjoy your informative videos.  As I indicated in a couple of emails, a friend of mine, Larry, and I are going to convert a 5 HP gas driven engine/generator to run on noble gases. We plan on modifying the ignition to high voltage.  (At least 100KV)  I'm trying to locate a source for the gases and charging parafernalia, etc.  I will document the major steps by posting pictures on my website, devoted to the Plasma transition process.  Here's the link:
http://www.zerwellenergy.com/Plasmaengexp.html   I would appreciate any suggestions from the group as the project proceeds.

Zerwell (Chuck Bagwell - Erie, MI)

k c dias

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #137, on September 4th, 2012, 02:47 PM »
Thank you Russ for this forum and thanks to all for your comments!

Glad to see others coming forward with the engines they are building.  Below are a few photos of the Briggs and Stratton engine I am hacking up :)

Also, a MUST read from the PESN archives - a description of the Plasmerg engine - a good description of what the cylinder coils do and why they are needed.

http://pesn.com/2009/07/18/9501554_Plasma_Transition_Process_motor_system/

Jeff Nading

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #138, on September 4th, 2012, 02:57 PM »
Quote from k c dias on September 4th, 2012, 02:47 PM
Thank you Russ for this forum and thanks to all for your comments!

Glad to see others coming forward with the engines they are building.  Below are a few photos of the Briggs and Stratton engine I am hacking up :)

Also, a MUST read from the PESN archives - a description of the Plasmerg engine - a good description of what the cylinder coils do and why they are needed.

http://pesn.com/2009/07/18/9501554_Plasma_Transition_Process_motor_system/
That's awesome Kc, your on your way.:cool::D:P

k c dias

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #139, on September 4th, 2012, 02:59 PM »
Quote from zerwell on September 4th, 2012, 10:41 AM
Hello Russ,

I joined the group last week.  I Enjoy your informative videos.  As I indicated in a couple of emails, a friend of mine, Larry, and I are going to convert a 5 HP gas driven engine/generator to run on noble gases. We plan on modifying the ignition to high voltage.  (At least 100KV)  I'm trying to locate a source for the gases and charging parafernalia, etc.  I will document the major steps by posting pictures on my website, devoted to the Plasma transition process.  Here's the link:
http://www.zerwellenergy.com/Plasmaengexp.html   I would appreciate any suggestions from the group as the project proceeds.

Zerwell (Chuck Bagwell - Erie, MI)
Hello Chuck,

Looks like the same B&S 5HP I am converting - a good choice, has an aluminum cylinder without a cast iron sleeve!  I kinda jealous that you have a generator connected to yours :) Mine came off of my old mini-bike - its had turpentine, lacquer thinner, you name it, run through it! - What ever the silly kid that ran it could find!!:D

kcd

zerwell

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #140, on September 4th, 2012, 04:24 PM »
Quote from k c dias on September 4th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Quote from zerwell on September 4th, 2012, 10:41 AM
Hello Russ,

I joined the group last week.  I Enjoy your informative videos.  As I indicated in a couple of emails, a friend of mine, Larry, and I are going to convert a 5 HP gas driven engine/generator to run on noble gases. We plan on modifying the ignition to high voltage.  (At least 100KV)  I'm trying to locate a source for the gases and charging parafernalia, etc.  I will document the major steps by posting pictures on my website, devoted to the Plasma transition process.  Here's the link:
http://www.zerwellenergy.com/Plasmaengexp.html   I would appreciate any suggestions from the group as the project proceeds.

Zerwell (Chuck Bagwell - Erie, MI)
Hello Chuck,

Looks like the same B&S 5HP I am converting - a good choice, has an aluminum cylinder without a cast iron sleeve!  I kinda jealous that you have a generator connected to yours :) Mine came off of my old mini-bike - its had turpentine, lacquer thinner, you name it, run through it! - What ever the silly kid that ran it could find!!:D

kcd
Hello KCD,

Yes, the engine seems perfect for testing the plasma process.  It has very few operating hours on it. Initial testing will involve no coils or RF.  I want to find out what just a high voltage spark will do. Testing should start when ordered parts arrive in a couple of weeks.

Chuck


~Russ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #141, on September 5th, 2012, 01:00 AM »
Quote from zerwell on September 4th, 2012, 04:24 PM
Quote from k c dias on September 4th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Quote from zerwell on September 4th, 2012, 10:41 AM
Hello Russ,

I joined the group last week.  I Enjoy your informative videos.  As I indicated in a couple of emails, a friend of mine, Larry, and I are going to convert a 5 HP gas driven engine/generator to run on noble gases. We plan on modifying the ignition to high voltage.  (At least 100KV)  I'm trying to locate a source for the gases and charging parafernalia, etc.  I will document the major steps by posting pictures on my website, devoted to the Plasma transition process.  Here's the link:
http://www.zerwellenergy.com/Plasmaengexp.html   I would appreciate any suggestions from the group as the project proceeds.

Zerwell (Chuck Bagwell - Erie, MI)
Hello Chuck,

Looks like the same B&S 5HP I am converting - a good choice, has an aluminum cylinder without a cast iron sleeve!  I kinda jealous that you have a generator connected to yours :) Mine came off of my old mini-bike - its had turpentine, lacquer thinner, you name it, run through it! - What ever the silly kid that ran it could find!!:D

kcd
Hello KCD,

Yes, the engine seems perfect for testing the plasma process.  It has very few operating hours on it. Initial testing will involve no coils or RF.  I want to find out what just a high voltage spark will do. Testing should start when ordered parts arrive in a couple of weeks.

Chuck
Lol I see you here now!
Lol

Any way, I will be doing the same but with high voltage, lovoltage high amperage discharge with no radioactive parts except the eletrods.

Working in circuit now. Works but needs more tweaking! ;)

~Russ

FaradayEZ

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #142, on September 5th, 2012, 03:36 AM »

Hi Pappers,

Good to see some more builders on the case! Welcome.

Till now i can only give some reflections on what sounds logic and what i see as the shortest way to success.

The RF excitement:  100 Watt and between 20 and 30 MHZ (according to John Rohner)

The gas.. H2 and or Helium should work already. (J.Rohner)

And Russ has a splitter that captures both sides H2 and O2 separately using  electrolyse

So no need (yet) for preparing a mixture the elaborate way. Like Tom Rohner shows in a russ video at page 15 of his video's.
(putting the gas through all kinds of bombartements)

Why not? Because if you keep the gasmixture for months in a gascilinder and it still works... then that gasmixture is no longer excited.. the excitement is the first thing to trickle down... that's why Stan Meyer was working on his fractionsparkplug...to bring the process closer to the reactionchamber...

You can't upkeep the excitement/ionisation for long... and in his first car it had to travel through pipes etc.. so he would loose a lot of work put into the gas before.

With Papp the time for gas excitement is critical in the chamber and not before.

At least for proofing the concept..sure some mixture's may have other properties when operating them in a working engine.

So that's my contribution... using common sense to see witch runabouts or corners can be cut?

Greetingsss

Erik

First get the damned reaction going and proofed!!
That way you avoid desillusions for putting in a lot of work and money and time to find out the main goal is walking away further and further cause of complicating all things..

See it work and you and others get new and more energy to build on a thousand fold.

(c) me  :)





zerwell

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #143, on September 5th, 2012, 04:48 AM »
Quote from FaradayEZ on September 5th, 2012, 03:36 AM
Hi Pappers,

Good to see some more builders on the case! Welcome.

Till now i can only give some reflections on what sounds logic and what i see as the shortest way to success.

The RF excitement:  100 Watt and between 20 and 30 MHZ (according to John Rohner)

The gas.. H2 and or Helium should work already. (J.Rohner)

And Russ has a splitter that captures both sides H2 and O2 separately using  electrolyse

So no need (yet) for preparing a mixture the elaborate way. Like Tom Rohner shows in a russ video at page 15 of his video's.
(putting the gas through all kinds of bombartements)

Why not? Because if you keep the gasmixture for months in a gascilinder and it still works... then that gasmixture is no longer excited.. the excitement is the first thing to trickle down... that's why Stan Meyer was working on his fractionsparkplug...to bring the process closer to the reactionchamber...

You can't upkeep the excitement/ionisation for long... and in his first car it had to travel through pipes etc.. so he would loose a lot of work put into the gas before.

With Papp the time for gas excitement is critical in the chamber and not before.

At least for proofing the concept..sure some mixture's may have other properties when operating them in a working engine.

So that's my contribution... using common sense to see witch runabouts or corners can be cut?

Greetingsss

Erik

First get the damned reaction going and proofed!!
That way you avoid desillusions for putting in a lot of work and money and time to find out the main goal is walking away further and further cause of complicating all things..

See it work and you and others get new and more energy to build on a thousand fold.

(c) me  :)
Hello Poppers as well,

I agree with Erik,

Let's get something working and proven.  I plan on testing with just H2; just Helium; as well as a mixture of nobles with only a HV car ignition spark plug.  Depending on results, I'll add RF and maybe a wire coil wrapped around and between the air coils of the engine.  I'll keep trying till something works.

Chuck



Jeff Nading


zerwell

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #145, on September 5th, 2012, 12:17 PM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 5th, 2012, 05:34 AM
Thought this might help, here is a plasma sparkplug and how to build one.:D
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Water%20Spark%20Plug.pdf
Jeff,

Thanks for posting this info.  There's a lot of good stuff in there.  I need to boost the 25KV magneto output on my 5 HP B&S engine up to 100KV.  So I guess I need a step-up transformer of 1 to 4.  Anyone know where I can get one?

Chuck

Jeff Nading

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #146, on September 5th, 2012, 12:34 PM »
Quote from zerwell on September 5th, 2012, 12:17 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 5th, 2012, 05:34 AM
Thought this might help, here is a plasma sparkplug and how to build one.:D
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Water%20Spark%20Plug.pdf
Jeff,

Thanks for posting this info.  There's a lot of good stuff in there.  I need to boost the 25KV magneto output on my 5 HP B&S engine up to 100KV.  So I guess I need a step-up transformer of 1 to 4.  Anyone know where I can get one?

Chuck
Hi Chuck, your welcome on that link, also if you were wanting to build your own step up transformer, here is another link you might enjoy,
http://ludens.cl/Electron/Electron.html
or maybe a MW transformer.:D

k c dias

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #147, on September 5th, 2012, 12:39 PM »
Quote from TinMan on August 29th, 2012, 06:03 AM
Well which unit do we build.The john or bob popper?
One has some flash electronics and frequencies,while the other just seems to discharge a large current into the cylinder useing caps and good old mechanical relay's.
There is only one way to find out if its legit-and that is to build the darn thing.
IMHO, I believe that the charging of the large capacitors will take too much time to be practical for a an engine requiring repetitive discharges.  The charge time is 'dead time', and the relay delay is dead time as well.  Lets suppose that the cap can be charged in 20ms or so.  An engine running 1800 RPM (30 RPS), requires 33.3ms per rev.  The 20ms plus dead time becomes a very significant problem for the controller designer, especially when you consider factoring in a speed dependent spark advance curve, a throttle demand signal, etc.

The original engines demonstrated used the cap discharge method - don't get me wrong - it can be done.  I would just like to think that there is a better way to do it now, with more precise timing, and we should look to John's work for those answers.

The HV coils also have a charge time or dead time to deal with.  For the stock Ford (2 wire) coils, the current can be seen to saturating above 4ms.  The controller I am presently working on takes into account for a 3.5ms charge time, and allows for a speed dependent, user defined, advance curve.

I will be releasing a schematic for my controller as well as the .asm files to program the microprocessors as soon as I can get it all in a presentable format.

The video posted earlier in this thread titled: "Part_II__Inteligentry_open_sourcing_Noble_Gas_Engine_core_design.flv" explains how the cylinder coil, the reaction chamber coil, and the RF, all come together to excite the gas mixture that is then ignited by the four HV coils.  The the durations, advance, and amplitudes of the various inputs go toward changing the speed of the engine.

Thanks,
kcd

zerwell

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #148, on September 5th, 2012, 12:49 PM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 5th, 2012, 12:34 PM
Quote from zerwell on September 5th, 2012, 12:17 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 5th, 2012, 05:34 AM
Thought this might help, here is a plasma sparkplug and how to build one.:D
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Water%20Spark%20Plug.pdf
Jeff,

Thanks for posting this info.  There's a lot of good stuff in there.  I need to boost the 25KV magneto output on my 5 HP B&S engine up to 100KV.  So I guess I need a step-up transformer of 1 to 4.  Anyone know where I can get one?

Chuck
Hi Chuck, your welcome on that link, also if you were wanting to build your own step up transformer, here is another link you might enjoy,
http://ludens.cl/Electron/Electron.html
or maybe a MW transformer.:D
Jeff,

Again, thanks for the link. I added it to my "Favorites". I just realized that I am "assuming" I need a higher voltage than 25KV to ignite the plasma, based on other's statements.  I will try the 25KV magneto output as soon as the new one arrives...then go from there.  I can't tell you how many times assuming has led me down the wrong research path.

Chuck




Jeff Nading

RE: Let's build A "Popper" Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine.
« Reply #149, on September 5th, 2012, 01:17 PM »
Quote from zerwell on September 5th, 2012, 12:49 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 5th, 2012, 12:34 PM
Quote from zerwell on September 5th, 2012, 12:17 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 5th, 2012, 05:34 AM
Thought this might help, here is a plasma sparkplug and how to build one.:D
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Water%20Spark%20Plug.pdf
Jeff,

Thanks for posting this info.  There's a lot of good stuff in there.  I need to boost the 25KV magneto output on my 5 HP B&S engine up to 100KV.  So I guess I need a step-up transformer of 1 to 4.  Anyone know where I can get one?

Chuck
Hi Chuck, your welcome on that link, also if you were wanting to build your own step up transformer, here is another link you might enjoy,
http://ludens.cl/Electron/Electron.html
or maybe a MW transformer.:D
Jeff,

Again, thanks for the link. I added it to my "Favorites". I just realized that I am "assuming" I need a higher voltage than 25KV to ignite the plasma, based on other's statements.  I will try the 25KV magneto output as soon as the new one arrives...then go from there.  I can't tell you how many times assuming has led me down the wrong research path.

Chuck
I hear you on that Chuck and think you could be right on the voltage, I think the amperage would be the factor more than voltage.:D