VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!

geert8550

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #25, on July 5th, 2012, 08:38 AM »Last edited on July 5th, 2012, 08:39 AM by geert8550
I have the impression that Europe's population become slowly informed. We need more people like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3PZFRuWRVk&feature=relmfu
geert8550

Jeff Nading


geert8550

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #27, on July 6th, 2012, 02:25 AM »
To the not members of the Kesh foundation > become a member.

Link to the list of contacted countries.
www.keshefoundation.org

geert8550

Jeff Nading

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« Reply #28, on July 6th, 2012, 05:18 AM »
Quote from geert8550 on July 6th, 2012, 02:25 AM
To the not members of the Kesh foundation > become a member.

Link to the list of contacted countries.
www.keshefoundation.org

geert8550
Yes very enlightening.:cool::D:P

Lynx

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #29, on August 5th, 2012, 03:55 PM »
Just registered over there.
Looks really interesting............and that's putting it mildly :D
And now for some conspiracy theories : I just hope we actually will be able to take part of these PDFs
in September..........I mean, just how powerful can >THEY< be, can >THEY< shut down servers, forums,
members ( :S ) etc etc........?
Free energy would only survive if it were to be made available to the general public
on a large scale in no time at all, that way it would be impossible for anyone to try
to stop it.
If free energy were to become as commonly known as the wheel, this World would be such
a beautiful place :cool:

Jeff Nading

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #30, on August 5th, 2012, 04:55 PM »Last edited on August 5th, 2012, 04:56 PM by Jeff Nading
Quote from Lynx on August 5th, 2012, 03:55 PM
Just registered over there.
Looks really interesting............and that's putting it mildly :D
And now for some conspiracy theories : I just hope we actually will be able to take part of these PDFs
in September..........I mean, just how powerful can >THEY< be, can >THEY< shut down servers, forums,
members ( :S ) etc etc........?
Free energy would only survive if it were to be made available to the general public
on a large scale in no time at all, that way it would be impossible for anyone to try
to stop it.
If free energy were to become as commonly known as the wheel, this World would be such
a beautiful place :cool:
Wouldn't it though! I really feel that this is just the tip of the iceberg of Keshe's and many others technology. There are so many people coming out with new free energy devises that no government or oil company will be able to stop the free energy tsunami that's coming, just a matter of time.:D

Lynx

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #31, on August 12th, 2012, 12:45 AM »Last edited on August 12th, 2012, 01:36 AM by Lynx
It's so strange that you don't see anything about this in the news, you get more hits
when you search for news about quiche than you get searching for Keshe or Keshe foundation.

Why is that I wonder? :D

I know I'm probably just over conspiratorial here, but I still think it's an
interesting question.
Not even the physics forum, http://www.physicsforums.com/ , shows any hits
at all searhing for Keshe / Keshe foundation, not even for the sake of crying scam.
As soon as free energy is mentioned anywhere it's always (quite) a few raising
the BS flags, but not in this case.
Telling silence?
Either TPTB is actually underway of gagging this whole thing, or it simply just
hasn't hit the main stream news medias yet. :cool:

Jeff Nading

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #32, on August 12th, 2012, 05:52 AM »
Quote from Lynx on August 12th, 2012, 12:45 AM
It's so strange that you don't see anything about this in the news, you get more hits
when you search for news about quiche than you get searching for Keshe or Keshe foundation.

Why is that I wonder? :D

I know I'm probably just over conspiratorial here, but I still think it's an
interesting question.
Not even the physics forum, http://www.physicsforums.com/ , shows any hits
at all searhing for Keshe / Keshe foundation, not even for the sake of crying scam.
As soon as free energy is mentioned anywhere it's always (quite) a few raising
the BS flags, but not in this case.
Telling silence?
Either TPTB is actually underway of gagging this whole thing, or it simply just
hasn't hit the main stream news medias yet. :cool:
Yes it 's been covered up. I had emailed one in main stream news the other day, never even got a response back. My sister works for the foreign service, she is in Baghdad, I asked her if she knew about Keshe, she said yes but would not say another word about him, that told me allot.

Lynx

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #33, on August 12th, 2012, 11:00 AM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on August 12th, 2012, 05:52 AM
Quote from Lynx on August 12th, 2012, 12:45 AM
It's so strange that you don't see anything about this in the news, you get more hits
when you search for news about quiche than you get searching for Keshe or Keshe foundation.

Why is that I wonder? :D

I know I'm probably just over conspiratorial here, but I still think it's an
interesting question.
Not even the physics forum, http://www.physicsforums.com/ , shows any hits
at all searhing for Keshe / Keshe foundation, not even for the sake of crying scam.
As soon as free energy is mentioned anywhere it's always (quite) a few raising
the BS flags, but not in this case.
Telling silence?
Either TPTB is actually underway of gagging this whole thing, or it simply just
hasn't hit the main stream news medias yet. :cool:
Yes it 's been covered up. I had emailed one in main stream news the other day, never even got a response back. My sister works for the foreign service, she is in Baghdad, I asked her if she knew about Keshe, she said yes but would not say another word about him, that told me allot.
Well, September is right around the corner, then we'll know :cool:

geert8550

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #34, on August 13th, 2012, 10:17 AM »
For those interested, and newcomers, Keshe and his technology in a nutshell.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation

Happy reading
Greetings from Belgium
Geert

Jeff Nading


anromanti

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #36, on October 9th, 2012, 08:36 PM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on June 27th, 2012, 08:15 AM
Quote from geert8550 on June 27th, 2012, 08:12 AM
The patents EP1770715A1 and EP1770717A1, which I sent earlier, were published in 2005. The following two patents WO2008113392A1 and WO2008113393A2 were later published (2007). September 2012 are the following two patents and replaced the first two, speaking MT Keshe.

Gtz
Geert
Thanks Geert, Jeff.:D:cool:
Hi, this is Anro Manti, i am a volunteer in 2 facebook groups (Fundacion Keshe: Información en Español, Keshe Translations) for translate the keshe info to Spanish and i was looking about the patents, i found in the web https://register.epo.org/espacenet/smartSearch?searchMode=smart&query=keshe     this "23.10.2009    Application deemed to be withdrawn, date of legal effect   [2010/16]
30.11.2009    Despatch of communication that the application is deemed to be withdrawn, reason: filing fee / search fee not paid in time   [2010/16]",   and a lot of people is showing that to say that the patents never were approved, but in another site:  http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2008113392&recNum=2&tab=PCTDocuments&maxRec=10&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=Pub+Date+Desc&queryString=Keshe  there is possible to download the patents and a few of documents relative to them like the status report (date 10/10/2012), i don't know nothing about laws of patents, so can anyone help me to understand if the patents were approved? tks very much to anyone.

Matt Watts

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #37, on October 10th, 2012, 12:10 AM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on June 2nd, 2012, 04:46 PM
Ok guys and gals, this is going to knock your socks off:D:cool:
This is a long video but one well worth watching here,:cool:

I advise everyone to watch it then go to his forum here, he is going to release all his work free in the next few months to the world, in PDF form. Needless to say this will have the greatest impact on the world since Tesla's introduction of AC power.
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506
"In so many ways"

I'll say.  I kind of uh uh doubt I'll see it in my lifetime, but hopefully the younger folks do.  It's been long overdue.

Lynx

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #38, on October 10th, 2012, 12:28 AM »
Quote from Dog-One on October 10th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on June 2nd, 2012, 04:46 PM
Ok guys and gals, this is going to knock your socks off:D:cool:
This is a long video but one well worth watching here,:cool:

I advise everyone to watch it then go to his forum here, he is going to release all his work free in the next few months to the world, in PDF form. Needless to say this will have the greatest impact on the world since Tesla's introduction of AC power.
http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506
"In so many ways"

I'll say.  I kind of uh uh doubt I'll see it in my lifetime, but hopefully the younger folks do.  It's been long overdue.
Whaddya talking about, you've seen star trek, right? :D

Gunther Rattay

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #39, on October 10th, 2012, 12:49 AM »
Quote from anromanti on October 9th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on June 27th, 2012, 08:15 AM
Quote from geert8550 on June 27th, 2012, 08:12 AM
The patents EP1770715A1 and EP1770717A1, which I sent earlier, were published in 2005. The following two patents WO2008113392A1 and WO2008113393A2 were later published (2007). September 2012 are the following two patents and replaced the first two, speaking MT Keshe.

Gtz
Geert
Thanks Geert, Jeff.:D:cool:
Hi, this is Anro Manti, i am a volunteer in 2 facebook groups (Fundacion Keshe: Información en Español, Keshe Translations) for translate the keshe info to Spanish and i was looking about the patents, i found in the web https://register.epo.org/espacenet/smartSearch?searchMode=smart&query=keshe     this "23.10.2009    Application deemed to be withdrawn, date of legal effect   [2010/16]
30.11.2009    Despatch of communication that the application is deemed to be withdrawn, reason: filing fee / search fee not paid in time   [2010/16]",   and a lot of people is showing that to say that the patents never were approved, but in another site:  http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2008113392&recNum=2&tab=PCTDocuments&maxRec=10&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=Pub+Date+Desc&queryString=Keshe  there is possible to download the patents and a few of documents relative to them like the status report (date 10/10/2012), i don't know nothing about laws of patents, so can anyone help me to understand if the patents were approved? tks very much to anyone.
At Konstantin Meyl seminar on Sept 21st 2012 Keshe told that he settles the patents for publication so that his inventions are public. then he withdraws them for not to have to pay full patent licence fees. that may work because that way no one else can make a patent on the same content and that may be the background that Keshe always talks about his patents being free for mankind. he doesn´t want to make money with the patent stuff.

Matt Watts

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #40, on October 10th, 2012, 08:50 PM »Last edited on October 10th, 2012, 09:34 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from Lynx on October 10th, 2012, 12:28 AM
Whaddya talking about, you've seen star trek, right? :D
I think Mr. Keshe made it perfectly clear he is working WITH the authorities not AGAINST them.  To me that translates into:  Until they can tax the crap out of it, you won't be allowed to see, hear, smell, touch or taste one bit of this until the time is right.  And when will that be?  Not your choice so be happy about what you have now.  If you really want some of this bad enough, it would be wise to begin reinventing it yourself.  I see some folks are doing that already and I certainly hope they make it work and can/will explain it.

My spider sense tells me there is some ulterior motive here, I just can't quite grasp what it is.  But I do know as time progresses, we'll see it plain as day.

If someone will ship me one of these I may change my viewpoint:


Enough said.  Now back to my perpetual motion machine...   hehe  :D

Jeff Nading

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #41, on October 11th, 2012, 05:55 AM »
I think if Iran is ever attacked by any nation, we will see Keshe's technology in action. I wouldn't wish this on anyone, because the results of it would be disastrous for the aggressor.:huh::angel:  

Matt Watts

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #42, on October 11th, 2012, 11:08 AM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on October 11th, 2012, 05:55 AM
I think if Iran is ever attacked by any nation, we will see Keshe's technology in action. I wouldn't wish this on anyone, because the results of it would be disastrous for the aggressor.:huh::angel:
Don't think for a minute the possibility of the aggressor not already having this technology and probably on steroids too.

The very thing that forces me to raise my decernment antenna is we have a nuclear physicist from Iran right in center stage.  The likely hood of this being some random event in history is practically zero.  My guts tells me this may very well be manufactured start to finish and for what purpose?  I do not know.  Yet.

I'm not advocating anyone ignore Keshe.  Just take it slow.  Try to understand the concepts and see if you can build any real world solutions from the bits and pieces of what he has released.  If you get to a point where you are absolutely sure you can create a plasma in a plastic coke bottle and use that plasma to do something tangible with, I'm all in.  Show me the steps!

geert8550

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #43, on October 11th, 2012, 01:08 PM »Last edited on October 11th, 2012, 01:09 PM by geert8550
Quote from Dog-One on October 11th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on October 11th, 2012, 05:55 AM
I think if Iran is ever attacked by any nation, we will see Keshe's technology in action. I wouldn't wish this on anyone, because the results of it would be disastrous for the aggressor.:huh::angel:
Don't think for a minute the possibility of the aggressor not already having this technology and probably on steroids too.

The very thing that forces me to raise my decernment antenna is we have a nuclear physicist from Iran right in center stage.  The likely hood of this being some random event in history is practically zero.  My guts tells me this may very well be manufactured start to finish and for what purpose?  I do not know.  Yet.

I'm not advocating anyone ignore Keshe.  Just take it slow.  Try to understand the concepts and see if you can build any real world solutions from the bits and pieces of what he has released.  If you get to a point where you are absolutely sure you can create a plasma in a plastic coke bottle and use that plasma to do something tangible with, I'm all in.  Show me the steps!
Hello Dog-One

For the moment I am working to carry out tests with the cola bottle. I thought this evening to continue my research but it will unfortunately at Saturday, Reports of the photos you can follow http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=694&page = 2
We appreciate your feadback please.

Geert

anromanti

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #44, on October 12th, 2012, 12:19 PM »
Quote from bussi04 on October 10th, 2012, 12:49 AM
Quote from anromanti on October 9th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on June 27th, 2012, 08:15 AM
Quote from geert8550 on June 27th, 2012, 08:12 AM
The patents EP1770715A1 and EP1770717A1, which I sent earlier, were published in 2005. The following two patents WO2008113392A1 and WO2008113393A2 were later published (2007). September 2012 are the following two patents and replaced the first two, speaking MT Keshe.

Gtz
Geert
Thanks Geert, Jeff.:D:cool:
Hi, this is Anro Manti, i am a volunteer in 2 facebook groups (Fundacion Keshe: Información en Español, Keshe Translations) for translate the keshe info to Spanish and i was looking about the patents, i found in the web https://register.epo.org/espacenet/smartSearch?searchMode=smart&query=keshe     this "23.10.2009    Application deemed to be withdrawn, date of legal effect   [2010/16]
30.11.2009    Despatch of communication that the application is deemed to be withdrawn, reason: filing fee / search fee not paid in time   [2010/16]",   and a lot of people is showing that to say that the patents never were approved, but in another site:  http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2008113392&recNum=2&tab=PCTDocuments&maxRec=10&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=Pub+Date+Desc&queryString=Keshe  there is possible to download the patents and a few of documents relative to them like the status report (date 10/10/2012), i don't know nothing about laws of patents, so can anyone help me to understand if the patents were approved? tks very much to anyone.
At Konstantin Meyl seminar on Sept 21st 2012 Keshe told that he settles the patents for publication so that his inventions are public. then he withdraws them for not to have to pay full patent licence fees. that may work because that way no one else can make a patent on the same content and that may be the background that Keshe always talks about his patents being free for mankind. he doesn´t want to make money with the patent stuff.
tks man.

Jeff Nading

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #45, on October 14th, 2012, 01:38 PM »
Well here is a new post from Keshe, an update situation. dated 10-9-2012:huh:

In response to what has been put on the Keshe thoughts group which is going on now on the internet at this moment:

Following our last call from the Keshe Foundation centre in Belgium for peace negotiations between the Iranian government and the government of Israel, we renew our call to both nations before the final move and total war between them.

The balance of the game has totally shifted in the last days in favour of Iran and Iran will win the war if any move is made against them by any nation, be it Israel or the US government.

Our cousins and brothers in all three nations, please accept our call for peace as we do not see a way out apart from total change of the map of the state of Israel if any military move is made by either country.

This checkmate position for Israel and the nations of the West is the result of their atrocities of past decades and is due to the wisdom of the Chinese and Russian leadership, the Syrian president and the foresight of the Iranian government and its religious leadership.

From now on the world will be a safer place for all of us as the bankrupt nations of the world calling themselves world super powers have been snookered into accepting the final checkmate by the peace loving nations of China, Iran and Russia.

Now world peace is nearly guaranteed and from the Keshe Foundation’s point of view we foresee the establishment of world peace through the wisdom of the Iranian, Russian and Chinese leadership.

We thank these governments for their wisdom and we offer our technology to support their move for the establishment of peace on the planet.

Let me explain what has happened and how the West will soon ask for peace talks which will result in a change of membership in the UN Security Council.

In their attempt to topple the Syrian government, using the excuse of its unjust leadership, the British and US got involved in the Syrian fighting and were planning through this intervention to topple the Iranian government as well. As they thought this time again as in the case of Libya no-one would stand in front of them to stop this continuous killing and robbing the nations of the Middle East of their central bank reserves, to replace their losses in the financial markets in the past years as was done in the Second World War by the Germans in respect to the European nations central banks.

Due to this checkmate the Israel nation will be forced into accepting the Iranian plan for the establishment of the state of Palestine with Jewish people as its citizens and consequently the UK and France will be forced out of the UN Security Council and these two nations will be replaced by Brazil and India.

In the coming months the US, UK and French past leaderships will be subjected to a full trial at the International Court of Justice for their unjust wars and for killing millions of people and for the human rights atrocities of the past thirty years.

Let us see how Iran, China and Russia made this amazing move and how the US, UK and Israel have been checkmated and have to accept the world peace put forward by these wining world peace nations.

First of all, if the present state of Israel does not accept the Iranian proposal for the establishment of the state of Palestine then it will cease to exist and will be merged with the new state of Palestine as has been for centuries. Thus the Iran leadership’s call for changing the map will be finalized and the nightmare of Israel attacking Iran will be over.

Israel, the UK and the US shot themselves in the foot by going into Syria and now they have to accept this change of policy in the Middle East, which will bring an end to war in this region for good.

What has happened is that as part of the joint military exercises being carried out by Syria, China, Russia and Iran, Iran is now sitting on Israel’s doorstep, bringing Israel’s worst nightmare to reality, and Iran can walk into the state of Israel any time they wish.

So if Israel goes ahead with its threat of attacking Iran while it has the Iranian military sitting on its borders, they with their short range missiles and trained army will literally walk through the state of Israel.

So this brings us to the call for peace between the present nation of Israel and Iran before this state ceases to exist and becomes part of the state of Palestine.

During these four state military exercises the US will not dare to attack Iran, China and Russia all at the same time, and in one move the US administration has become the underdog of the peace loving nations of Iran, China and Russia.

We congratulate the leadership of these nations who are working for the establishment of real world peace and not those who under the banner of world peace have caused so much suffering in the Middle East in recent years.

With this move, the economy of the west will start tumbling down as their economies based on the war-making machine come to a sudden halt, and in the coming weeks we will see the leaders of Europe change their address to the prisons of the international criminal courts for the crimes they have committed.

Maybe this is what was to be expected as the US as slave to the UK government could not get involved in more wars and lose more of its youth to end up in flag-draped coffins.

Now we all know why we started our teaching program from 21.9.2012, as from now we will all learn the real meaning of peace and can implement our ethos of the unity of mankind through the SSP program.

At the same time our calls goes to Iranians, Arabs and Palestinians of the region too, that use this opportunity to create everlasting peace and not make the mistakes of our Israel’s brothers in the past, you think that, now that you are free, it is your time to cause harm to others as you see it to be your right to do so for what they have done to you since late 1940’s.

Show the true meaning of words of the holy books and forgive and not forget that if forgotten then the same mistakes shall be made, if forgiven then this shows the maturity of the Palestinian's reaching peace through sufferings , that they would not like to see no others to go through the same pains again and for them to do to the same atrocities to others, even to those who have harmed them are all of their own cosines and Children’s and son’s of Abraham.

Forgiving has sweeter and longer lasting taste, and with this forgiving we shall restore and end with banishment of tribe of Mohammad from obscurity and give them the equal seat on the table of the sons of Man. With this we hope all have received what they have asked for and from now mankind can live in peace and harmony on this past troubled planet.

We see and hope for a better future for mankind, now that the tools of war have come to ceased to exist and from now on we see the factories of war making machines will become to work much harder by producing the tools of the peace and systems for transporting the mankind in to the spans of the universe, for us to take the ethos of peace with us to teach and announce to others as to show we have matured enough that we can take our place in the peaceful universal community.

M T Keshe



symanuk

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #46, on October 15th, 2012, 03:57 AM »
More ravings about the Western governments.  This guy really has a very sinister undertone to all of his blog writing / interviews.  Lets hope that his technology is not a hoax and that these are simply the personality traits of a genius and not the semi-religious ramblings of a lunatic

Jeff Nading

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #47, on October 15th, 2012, 06:02 AM »
Quote from symanuk on October 15th, 2012, 03:57 AM
More ravings about the Western governments.  This guy really has a very sinister undertone to all of his blog writing / interviews.  Lets hope that his technology is not a hoax and that these are simply the personality traits of a genius and not the semi-religious ramblings of a lunatic
Time well tell, absolute power corrupts absolutely, hope this is not the case.  

firepinto

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #48, on October 16th, 2012, 09:36 AM »
Sure seems to wave a flag of superior war power while speaking promotions of peace.  I'm not sure how that is any better or different than our country's leaders,or any other country's leaders, attitude towards war and peace.  Peace doesn't come from swinging a bigger stick, it comes from putting down the stick.

Nate

Lynx

RE: VERY IMPORTANT Free Energy - Nuclear Engineer M.T. Keshe @ ElektorLive!
« Reply #49, on October 16th, 2012, 01:44 PM »
For someone talking about peace, he sure talks alot about war, also in a most
unpleasant kind of way.
Potential Hitler springs to mind.
Right now I kinda hope that he actually don't have anything to offer to the World,
if it is to be used in order to wipe out nations.