Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!

Jeff Nading

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #100, on October 30th, 2012, 04:27 PM »
Quote from Buratino on October 30th, 2012, 02:41 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading link=msg=9192 date=1351608448'

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Hydrogen production in is the end result of the injector.
I don't..there is a difference between 16 pipes and 2 in the injector?
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Most of the electronics, other apparatus and gasses go directly to the injector.
Where to read this?
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So I would say the injector play's a major role in hydrogen production, enables one to produce hydrogen in the cylinder of an engine, with no storage of such:cool::D:P.
Where to read this?
Mainly you need to watch the Meyer's videos, just going by what they have told us. Also you will need to look at the Meyer's patent's and do the research, you can download them here
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/  

VWType181

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #101, on October 30th, 2012, 05:38 PM »
Russ and Jeff,
I have still had not time to work on my injector, however the cat is away, so the mouse will hopefully play. Anyway, if someone needs some parts rather electrical etc, let me know. I'm trying to secure some delrin and other plastics, we have a lot, stainless even. You've seen my work so far, and unfortuneately I have not been able to complete any more.

I will certainly post more of my works when the time comes. Thought about doing something very crude with an old spark plug, even if the motor only ran for <5 or 10 minutes, it would still be proof of concept for me as i still have some scepticism.

Jeff Nading

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #102, on October 30th, 2012, 06:30 PM »
Quote from VWType181 on October 30th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Russ and Jeff,
I have still had not time to work on my injector, however the cat is away, so the mouse will hopefully play. Anyway, if someone needs some parts rather electrical etc, let me know. I'm trying to secure some delrin and other plastics, we have a lot, stainless even. You've seen my work so far, and unfortuneately I have not been able to complete any more.

I will certainly post more of my works when the time comes. Thought about doing something very crude with an old spark plug, even if the motor only ran for <5 or 10 minutes, it would still be proof of concept for me as i still have some scepticism.
Thanks VW, in the electronics and plastic, what is it you have, is it a give away or is it something your needing to be reimbursed for? You might list what you have in a new post to see if someone here would be interested or not , just a thought, Jeff.:D

VWType181

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #103, on October 30th, 2012, 07:06 PM »
Electrical would be like boxes, contactors, relays, connectors, capacitors, some reostats, mainly large components as i am going to use my Arduino to make my circuit for the wave generator.

Plastics would be spotty, got some delrin, teflon, arcrylic, lexan, bake lite in the form of rod and sheets. I say spotty because its scrap around here, when some one has a project and its left over it just goes in the garbage.....

They even threw away an Allen Bradley MicroLogix 1000 with 16in10out the other day, just into the compactor....

Anyway, enough crying from me, let me know, got co-workers that are hoarders as well.

Jeff Nading

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #104, on October 30th, 2012, 07:26 PM »
Quote from VWType181 on October 30th, 2012, 07:06 PM
Electrical would be like boxes, contactors, relays, connectors, capacitors, some reostats, mainly large components as i am going to use my Arduino to make my circuit for the wave generator.

Plastics would be spotty, got some delrin, teflon, arcrylic, lexan, bake lite in the form of rod and sheets. I say spotty because its scrap around here, when some one has a project and its left over it just goes in the garbage.....

They even threw away an Allen Bradley MicroLogix 1000 with 16in10out the other day, just into the compactor....

Anyway, enough crying from me, let me know, got co-workers that are hoarders as well.
Oh no, I want to cry about the Allen Bradley compactor crush. Sounds like a good lot of goodies, Russ might be able to use some of it. He's always looking for good stuff like this. I'm sure he will see this post, thanks VW. :D

Buratino

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #105, on November 3rd, 2012, 01:30 AM »Last edited on November 3rd, 2012, 01:34 AM by Buratino
 may I ask you accurate electric schema for my experiment? thank you

Rider

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #106, on November 8th, 2012, 02:05 PM »
Quote from Rider on May 25th, 2012, 03:51 PM
Russ, you're back, and how. Good video and nice hat by the way.  Unbelievably fantastic this is.

Thank you, unknown source.  I don't know what ever made you a believer of the open source through the idea's from Stanley Meyer.  This is an incredible concrete step forward.

On WFC 423 DA I can not image, looking at the injector design, that the injector is used to inject some water mist in a gas-mixture.  This question is still open from you Russ.  I'm really curious what comes out of this design if it is just fed with water.  I looked at the pictures from the dune-buggy and can also not find any hose from the "fuel mixing chamber" to the solenoids.  

For WFC 423 DA it looks the exhaust gas is mixed with the ionized air and fed to the engine intake.  The water is pushed through the injectors.  How do you think about this now?
Furthermore, any idea on where this pressure is coming from?

Rider
Russ, or anybody. The above mentioned issue is still open.  Do you think the injector is fed with :
a) a water mist in a gas mixture.
b) water

In there an reference for this question to be found on the dune buggy?

Cheers, Rider  (yes I'm back)

MeyerandMe

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #107, on November 8th, 2012, 10:19 PM »
Quote from Rider on November 8th, 2012, 02:05 PM
Quote from Rider on May 25th, 2012, 03:51 PM
Russ, you're back, and how. Good video and nice hat by the way.  Unbelievably fantastic this is.

Thank you, unknown source.  I don't know what ever made you a believer of the open source through the idea's from Stanley Meyer.  This is an incredible concrete step forward.

On WFC 423 DA I can not image, looking at the injector design, that the injector is used to inject some water mist in a gas-mixture.  This question is still open from you Russ.  I'm really curious what comes out of this design if it is just fed with water.  I looked at the pictures from the dune-buggy and can also not find any hose from the "fuel mixing chamber" to the solenoids.  

For WFC 423 DA it looks the exhaust gas is mixed with the ionized air and fed to the engine intake.  The water is pushed through the injectors.  How do you think about this now?
Furthermore, any idea on where this pressure is coming from?

Rider
Russ, or anybody. The above mentioned issue is still open.  Do you think the injector is fed with :
a) a water mist in a gas mixture.
b) water

In there an reference for this question to be found on the dune buggy?

Cheers, Rider  (yes I'm back)
The answers are in this patent.

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Cheers,
JP

Rider

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #108, on November 9th, 2012, 12:42 AM »Last edited on November 9th, 2012, 12:43 AM by Rider
Quote from MeyerandMe on November 8th, 2012, 10:19 PM
The answers are in this patent.

Cheers,
JP
Dear JP, Thanks for the document. I did not have it yet.

The document proves my question.  In this patent Stanley describes an injector in which water, ionized gases and recycled exhaust gas are mixed and then fed to the high voltage zone.  So the high voltage is applied on this gasious mixture.

But, the latest injector drawing Russ came up with is for the WFC 423 DA patent.  This injector only has an inlet for water. (So no ionized and recycled exhaust).  Meaning, the injector only has water, as a fluid, in the tapered high voltage zone.
So from the injector only comes the hydrogen fuel.


Ionized gases and recycled exhaust are fed through the cilinder inlet valve into the combustion zone.  They are intermixed in the "fuel mixing chamber".  On the pictures a delrin box with 3 solenoids. On this box are inputs for exhaust gas, ionized gas and a third one.  Some people think it is for idle air.

So the question is: Is it correct that in WFC 423 DA the injector injects only the hydrogen fuel gas from water as a fluid and that the environmental gasses (ionized air and exhaust gas) are coming from the mixing chamber through the inlet valve?

Regards,

Rider


jasonacjac

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #109, on November 10th, 2012, 12:43 PM »
Thank you everyone for all your contributions.
My father and I have been looking at all this WFC subjects for years now,
and in a few months, we will produce the replication of the WFC Injector,
thanks to RWG and Russ.
We will keep you noted as to how its goes along and design plans for a
more standard version of the plug for cars today.

Thank you all!!!

Jeff Nading

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #110, on November 10th, 2012, 01:06 PM »
Quote from jasonacjac on November 10th, 2012, 12:43 PM
Thank you everyone for all your contributions.
My father and I have been looking at all this WFC subjects for years now,
and in a few months, we will produce the replication of the WFC Injector,
thanks to RWG and Russ.
We will keep you noted as to how its goes along and design plans for a
more standard version of the plug for cars today.

Thank you all!!!
Welcome to the forum, exciting times we live in, thanks , Jeff.:D

Buratino

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #111, on November 10th, 2012, 11:31 PM »
Friends.Very needed electro-chart injector

trav413

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #112, on November 14th, 2012, 09:21 AM »
Hey Guys,
  My first post but I have been researching off and on for a couple of years now.  Im building a cell and i will post pics as soon as i get them.  I just wanted to share this link and let all these bright minds see if there could be any help from this. http://www.sonozap.com/Atomizer_Nozzles.html

symanuk

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #113, on November 14th, 2012, 10:05 AM »
Quote from trav413 on November 14th, 2012, 09:21 AM
Hey Guys,
  My first post but I have been researching off and on for a couple of years now.  Im building a cell and i will post pics as soon as i get them.  I just wanted to share this link and let all these bright minds see if there could be any help from this. http://www.sonozap.com/Atomizer_Nozzles.html
Welcome Trav,

It could be interesting to use one of those alongside the high capacity spark plug modifications that people have and burn the water directly.  See what kind of flame it makes if it is very finely atomised...

Jeff Nading

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #114, on November 14th, 2012, 10:26 AM »
Quote from trav413 on November 14th, 2012, 09:21 AM
Hey Guys,
  My first post but I have been researching off and on for a couple of years now.  Im building a cell and i will post pics as soon as i get them.  I just wanted to share this link and let all these bright minds see if there could be any help from this. http://www.sonozap.com/Atomizer_Nozzles.html
Welcome to the forum Trav, cool site as well.:D

HHO4Life

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #115, on April 17th, 2013, 02:26 AM »
Hey Russ that fellow that made the injectors for you can you check with him to see if he can make one for me I'll pay him what he needs to do it for me.

~Russ

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #116, on April 17th, 2013, 04:04 AM »
Hey, so that's 2 requests! Lol I'll need to ask,

Update:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2I9ZqWFwLI

Enjoy!

~Russ

securesupplies

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #117, on April 19th, 2013, 07:55 PM »
Three Cheers to Russ and Other on this one Well done, this is a exciting step,

We are all trying to be in a position to support and help.

We all are working hard on 3d printers and reproductions.

all 3d file posting are welcomed as it takes it all a step further faster.

Really Awesome guys

Power to you , also Like the work happening in the adrino proto typing,

after adrino does it we can miniturize it from there very very cool.

Russ takes as many pictures and videos as you can you are holding new content in your hands!!   Great Progress

Dan
RIP STANLEY MEYERS.

mrusten

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #118, on April 20th, 2013, 05:46 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 17th, 2013, 04:04 AM
Hey, so that's 2 requests! Lol I'll need to ask,

~Russ
i want one injector too!

securesupplies

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #119, on April 26th, 2013, 04:16 AM »Last edited on April 26th, 2013, 04:27 AM by securesupplies
Quote from mrusten on April 20th, 2013, 05:46 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 17th, 2013, 04:04 AM
Hey, so that's 2 requests! Lol I'll need to ask,

~Russ
i want one injector too!
I want one too, does he have website?
industry is  moving along.

Like to list his items for sale also
pass message on to him
to list what he can do
pricing on line somewhere on web like
here
www.wix.com

all the best

Dan

~Russ

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #120, on April 27th, 2013, 12:31 AM »Last edited on April 27th, 2013, 12:33 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from securesupplies on April 26th, 2013, 04:16 AM
Quote from mrusten on April 20th, 2013, 05:46 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 17th, 2013, 04:04 AM
Hey, so that's 2 requests! Lol I'll need to ask,

~Russ
i want one injector too!
I want one too, does he have website?
industry is  moving along.

Like to list his items for sale also
pass message on to him
to list what he can do
pricing on line somewhere on web like
here
www.wix.com

all the best

Dan
no he dose not. ill need to ask but i'm thinking he wont want to make more than one.

this one has been a challenge

the drawings are on the site here sp just bring them to a machine shop and we are good to go. anyone can have one with the right prove for making it at a local shop.

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=552

~Russ

securesupplies


Matt Watts

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #122, on April 30th, 2013, 10:09 PM »Last edited on April 30th, 2013, 10:25 PM by Matt Watts
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27. People will try to selectively edit their way to get you to use water injection by stating "One can basically double the power output of an engine using water/methanol" and "It was used effectively in Formula 1 before being banned for adding too much power". This is pure bunk. Water or water/alcohol/methanol does not make power...superchargers and turbochargers make power. The cooling effect of the water injection only allows you to run higher boost pressures and leaner mixtures without engine damage. The increased density or higher pressure ratio is what makes the power, not the water. The last time we checked water wasn't a very good fuel. Water Injection definitely does not give "a 5-15% increase in fuel economy" as some marketers claim.
That is an interesting quote.  I would have thought water mist turning to flash steam inside the combustion chamber would indeed increase output power, but apparently not.

Something everyone should keep in mind though, racers care about volumetric efficiency.  The more fuel you can push into an engine without blowing the engine up, the more power you make, provided you can get a majority of that fuel to burn.  This is quite a bit different than simply trying to get an engine to run on water.

I do think with HHO as the fuel, you need something else added to make the fuel burn slower, that can be air (mostly nitrogen), water or both.  Now if you build an engine specifically to burn HHO, then you shouldn't need anything to slow the burn rate down.  On this forum is just such an engine, designed to transfer the rapid pop of the fuel into kinetic energy.  As I recall, it is designed for very high RPM too.

Kind of getting away from the topic of water injection or water spark plug a bit.  Bottom line is that a reciprocating engine designed to run gasoline or diesel will never work real well with HHO.  With the water spark plug, I still need to understand how you can rapidly turn water into HHO of sufficient quantity without having the massive plate surface area of a typical brute force electrolysis cell.  This one I'll have to see it to believe it.

lamare

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #123, on May 10th, 2013, 01:53 PM »Last edited on May 10th, 2013, 02:31 PM by lamare
Quote from HMS-776 on May 28th, 2012, 09:34 AM
Securesupplies,

I'm sure that would work just fine. A low dielectric constant is important because you don't want the capacitance of the large part of the injector effeceting the tapered area capacitance. Macor has a dielectric constant of about 6 unitl the temp goes beyond 150 C. As we all know macor is what Meyer used but it is quite expensive.
IMHO, the dielectric layer is one of the most, if not THE most, important design element of the whole system. I posted a thread on how I believe the system is capable of drawing energy from the environment (vacuum, zero-point, dirac-sea, aether, whatever you want to call it):

http://www.open-source-energy.org/?tid=1168

I believe, based on reported observations by a/o John Bedini that the secret of the whole system is to be found in the properties of the dielectric layer within the fuel cell (or injector, which appears to contain a tiny fuel cell).

It has been a head-ache for many years in solving the question of how to prevent electrolytic capacitors from generating HHO, an unwanted effect when building electrolytic capacitors.

An electrolytic capacitor, contrary to what many people think, is not just two capacitor plates with a dielectric in between. One of the "plates" is no more than a contact plate between the terminal and the electrolyte fluid. The other plate is an actual plate, on which a tiny layer of dielectric (often aluminum oxide) is grown by means of an electochemical process. The actual other "plate" of such a capacitor is then formed by the ions in the electrolyte fluid, whereby the dielectric layer is in the order of 1 um thick. In the old days, radio amateurs used aluminum plates and baking soda as an electrolyte.

Now what happens when you put aluminum plates in a baking soda bath and put a voltage across them, on the positive plate such a layer of dielectric grows automagically such that it becomes thick enough to withstand the applied voltage. If you want to make an electrolytic capacitor that way, you need to apply like 10% extra voltage during the growing process, so the dielectric grows just a little bit thicker than needed for the intended usage voltage.

The next thing that is very interesting is what happens when you apply high voltage spikes to an electrolytic capacitor. When you do that for a while, the capacitors start to show a significant increase of what is known as "dielectric relaxation" effect. When you charge an elco to, say 10 V, and then shortly short circuit it, then after a few seconds or a minute or so, it will spontaneously recharge itself to about 10% of the original voltage. That is the dielectric relaxation effect.

Electrolytic capacitors (as well as lead-acid batteries) which have been charged with high voltage spikes, Bedini's method, show a behavior whereby they spontaneously re-charge to much higher voltages.

I believe this occurs because the thin dielectric layer gets super-polarized by these *sudden* high voltage spikes.

Now if that is correct, and indeed you get a very strong electric field within your polarized dielectric, this field extends into the electrolyte fluid. Now because the layer is very thin, this field can be very strong, and exceed the dielectric breakdown strength of water and thus causes the water to spontaneously split into hydrogen/oxygen gas, which can be used as a fuel.

Interestingly, when experiments are being done with old-school rectifiers, basically the same construction, a glow is being observed over the surface of the aluminum plates. I believe this same kind of glow has been reported with some more successfull fuel cell replications (Rahni or something?).....

So, if this indeed is the mechanism by which the system draws it's energy from the environment, the thickness of the layer is very, very important, because that relates directly to the field strength that results within the dielectric when you apply an external voltage in order to "charge" the capacitor and thus polarize the dielectric, which eventually gives you the power to produce your gas. (see thread posted above).

In other words: the thickness and properties of the dielectric layer determine whether or not your system will function as desired. It is very hard to produce very thin layers of dielectric with a constant thickness onto a rough material such as metal, unless you grow the layer electrochemically.

With aluminum, we know exactly how to do that. The industry does it all the time when they make an electrolytic capacitor, and the DIY version with baking soda also works, albeit that those are plagued with unintended HHO production. ;)

So, it may be worthwhile to experiment with homemade aluminum and baking soda electrolytic capacitors in order to see whether or not the effect I think is responsible for the working principle of the device indeed works as I say it does. If that turns out to be correct, you then also have the information you need in order to make dielectric layers with desired properties on other metals, such as stainless steel.

Stainless steel does contain other metals that prevent it from rusting by growing a dielectric layer, which thickness then needs to be controlled in order to get a layer that is just thick enough to withstand the voltages you apply to it in order to polarize the material, so that it induces a strong electric field in your fluid which makes the water to split without having to apply an external current trough the fluid itself...




Posted this in this thread a few minutes back. It said it's posted, but I can't seem to find it back. So, here's another try:
Quote
Securesupplies,

I'm sure that would work just fine. A low dielectric constant is important because you don't want the capacitance of the large part of the injector effeceting the tapered area capacitance. Macor has a dielectric constant of about 6 unitl the temp goes beyond 150 C. As we all know macor is what Meyer used but it is quite expensive.
IMHO, the dielectric layer is one of the most, if not THE most, important design element of the whole system. I posted a thread on how I believe the system is capable of drawing energy from the environment (vacuum, zero-point, dirac-sea, aether, whatever you want to call it):

http://www.open-source-energy.org/?tid=1168

I believe, based on reported observations by a/o John Bedini that the secret of the whole system is to be found in the properties of the dielectric layer within the fuel cell (or injector, which appears to contain a tiny fuel cell).

It has been a head-ache for many years in solving the question of how to prevent electrolytic capacitors from generating HHO, an unwanted effect when building electrolytic capacitors.

An electrolytic capacitor, contrary to what many people think, is not just two capacitor plates with a dielectric in between. One of the "plates" is no more than a contact plate between the terminal and the electrolyte fluid. The other plate is an actual plate, on which a tiny layer of dielectric (often aluminum oxide) is grown by means of an electochemical process. The actual other "plate" of such a capacitor is then formed by the ions in the electrolyte fluid, whereby the dielectric layer is in the order of 1 um thick. In the old days, radio amateurs used aluminum plates and baking soda as an electrolyte.

Now what happens when you put aluminum plates in a baking soda bath and put a voltage across them, on the positive plate such a layer of dielectric grows automagically such that it becomes thick enough to withstand the applied voltage. If you want to make an electrolytic capacitor that way, you need to apply like 10% extra voltage during the growing process, so the dielectric grows just a little bit thicker than needed for the intended usage voltage.

The next thing that is very interesting is what happens when you apply high voltage spikes to an electrolytic capacitor. When you do that for a while, the capacitors start to show a significant increase of what is known as "dielectric relaxation" effect. When you charge an elco to, say 10 V, and then shortly short circuit it, then after a few seconds or a minute or so, it will spontaneously recharge itself to about 10% of the original voltage. That is the dielectric relaxation effect.

Electrolytic capacitors (as well as lead-acid batteries) which have been charged with high voltage spikes, Bedini's method, show a behavior whereby they spontaneously re-charge to much higher voltages.

I believe this occurs because the thin dielectric layer gets super-polarized by these *sudden* high voltage spikes.

Now if that is correct, and indeed you get a very strong electric field within your polarized dielectric, this field extends into the electrolyte fluid. Now because the layer is very thin, this field can be very strong, and exceed the dielectric breakdown strength of water and thus causes the water to spontaneously split into hydrogen/oxygen gas, which can be used as a fuel.

Interestingly, when experiments are being done with old-school rectifiers, basically the same construction, a glow is being observed over the surface of the aluminum plates. I believe this same kind of glow has been reported with some more successfull fuel cell replications (Rahni or something?).....

So, if this indeed is the mechanism by which the system draws it's energy from the environment, the thickness of the layer is very, very important, because that relates directly to the field strength that results within the dielectric when you apply an external voltage in order to "charge" the capacitor and thus polarize the dielectric, which eventually gives you the power to produce your gas. (see thread posted above).

In other words: the thickness and properties of the dielectric layer determine whether or not your system will function as desired. It is very hard to produce very thin layers of dielectric with a constant thickness onto a rough material such as metal, unless you grow the layer electrochemically.

With aluminum, we know exactly how to do that. The industry does it all the time when they make an electrolytic capacitor, and the DIY version with baking soda also works, albeit that those are plagued with unintended HHO production. ;)

So, it may be worthwhile to experiment with homemade aluminum and baking soda electrolytic capacitors in order to see whether or not the effect I think is responsible for the working principle of the device indeed works as I say it does. If that turns out to be correct, you then also have the information you need in order to make dielectric layers with desired properties on other metals, such as stainless steel.

Stainless steel does contain other metals that prevent it from rusting by growing a dielectric layer, which thickness then needs to be controlled in order to get a layer that is just thick enough to withstand the voltages you apply to it in order to polarize the material, so that it induces a strong electric field in your fluid which makes the water to split without having to apply an external current trough the fluid itself...



Quote from Rider on November 9th, 2012, 12:42 AM
Quote from MeyerandMe on November 8th, 2012, 10:19 PM
The answers are in this patent.

Cheers,
JP
Dear JP, Thanks for the document. I did not have it yet.
I collected all Meyer patents I could find:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Meyer/


securesupplies

RE: Stanley Meyer Water Car Injector Drawings For The Water Powered Buggy!
« Reply #124, on May 18th, 2013, 03:23 AM »Last edited on May 25th, 2013, 04:09 AM by securesupplies
Here is a expansion

of the flame Ignitor version

drawing possible faster to deploy.

any machine spec or drawing please post.


attached

 


Hi attached,  is

the ignitor expanded drawing  for the adaptor

this one should be faster to deploy.
and ready machinable.

please post machining drawing or
version here

Dan
www.securesupplies.biz
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