My EPG Buiding Progress

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Blazer

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #1, on April 22nd, 2011, 08:35 AM »
Hi all I have some questions about the 1.4 exploding cap experiment.  Is it possible that a stored potential energy in the chamber could have fed back into the cap and caused it to explode AFTER the power source was shut off? Did the pressure of the chamber effect the energy? Any thoughts?  Thanks      YOU HAVE GOT TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS STAN MEYER                                                                                            

~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #2, on April 22nd, 2011, 11:38 AM »Last edited on April 22nd, 2011, 11:40 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from Blazer on April 22nd, 2011, 08:35 AM
Hi all I have some questions about the 1.4 exploding cap experiment.  Is it possible that a stored potential energy in the chamber could have fed back into the cap and caused it to explode AFTER the power source was shut off? Did the pressure of the chamber effect the energy? Any thoughts?  Thanks      YOU HAVE GOT TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS STAN MEYER
Hey! This is a good thought and I'm not ruling it out! But!

I beleave I was over charging the caps... Even tho there rated for 25kv and I was using 12kv. It other was over charging when the spark gap did not fire or the cap was bad to start with. I can tell you that the inside of the caps were chard! So I think it shorted and heeted up and it was a thermal explosion! That's why it took so long after i turned it off...
Also those were out of some old stuff sonthey may have been bad from the start???

There was also a bad sound when there was no spark... That was the cap plates... I beleave being shorted out...

Now i have the last 2 in seiries and a safety gap in a box. Looks good and is safe for over voltage so I don't DIE! Lol

Ill post a video when i can!!  ~Russ

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RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #3, on April 22nd, 2011, 12:28 PM »
Russ,

I had the same thought actually when I saw that happen, would it be possible to actually test this, instead of just assuming?  Not to question your idea's or say they are not valid, but mistakes are often the seed of new fields of experimentation.. . there should be an easy way to CONFIRM that energy wasn't stored and fed back to the cap?  Or that it wasn't creating an extremely high voltage being fed back to the cap?? Thanks

M

~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #4, on April 22nd, 2011, 12:59 PM »
Quote from admin on April 22nd, 2011, 12:28 PM
Russ,

I had the same thought actually when I saw that happen, would it be possible to actually test this, instead of just assuming?  Not to question your idea's or say they are not valid, but mistakes are often the seed of new fields of experimentation.. . there should be an easy way to CONFIRM that energy wasn't stored and fed back to the cap?  Or that it wasn't creating an extremely high voltage being fed back to the cap?? Thanks

M
YeAh, I need to look in to that, but don't have any extra high voltage caps to blow up! Lol slightly expensive...


If I was ionizing the gas and not grounding out the chamber then yeah, I can see extra voltage building up... Not ruling it out.. But the even with out the chamber not attached the caps overcharged???

~Russ

Blazer

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #5, on April 23rd, 2011, 07:29 PM »
Hi all Let me explain a little more why I questioned in the first place.  I was researching the etheric formative forces  and learned about the four types.  WARMTH, and LIGHT whitch tend to be expansive forces or CHEMICAL and LIFE which tend to be contractive forces.  When the gauge on the chamber showed a pressure to me it fell back to zero too fast (even with a small leak)  So I believe this may have been an ether force or wave on the gauge and not an air pressure force.  Also ether forces are associated with lightning.  I am not strong in electrical but thought if you throw a small cap in the chamber would it collect a charge?  Also I tend to believe Stan was working on a home heat/electrical generator system and this EPG was to be used in conjuction along with his solar patents.  Just some food for thought.

txqNL


~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #7, on May 7th, 2011, 12:44 PM »
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Maybe for testing use a ballon like this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFsZ1NrtIMk[/quote]Some one has mentiond this befor to me and inthink it's a good idea... But I see a problem with it...

Electrostatic charge...

For example, If one was to rub that ballon and make it positively charged... And one was holding a steel bar and you and the bar was negatively charged.. Then this test would work all the time...   Maggas or no maggas


Have you ever had a styrofoam cup attach to your hand? Or a plastic wraper stick to your hand? No Mag gas there...

The test has a flaw... But it is a good idea...      

Whats your thoughts?

~Russ

txqNL

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #8, on May 10th, 2011, 06:36 AM »
Quote from Rwg42985 on May 7th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Some one has mentiond this befor to me and inthink it's a good idea... But I see a problem with it...

Electrostatic charge...

For example, If one was to rub that ballon and make it positively charged... And one was holding a steel bar and you and the bar was negatively charged.. Then this test would work all the time...   Maggas or no maggas

Have you ever had a styrofoam cup attach to your hand? Or a plastic wraper stick to your hand? No Mag gas there...
The test has a flaw... But it is a good idea...      
Whats your thoughts?
~Russ
Indeed but that is the case with all things which we view or read we have to have "faith in believing" that we view is real or do it ourself for "real" prove.
So I was talking about the test itself instead the what he is showing us.
I think the ballon in the cheapest non-magnatic container :)
I think that magnagas in "idle" state polirizes to earth N-S.
I think this can be tested with steel bar and/or compas and/or magnet.


~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #9, on May 10th, 2011, 07:42 AM »
Quote from txqNL on May 10th, 2011, 06:36 AM
Quote from Rwg42985 on May 7th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Some one has mentiond this befor to me and inthink it's a good idea... But I see a problem with it...

Electrostatic charge...

For example, If one was to rub that ballon and make it positively charged... And one was holding a steel bar and you and the bar was negatively charged.. Then this test would work all the time...   Maggas or no maggas

Have you ever had a styrofoam cup attach to your hand? Or a plastic wraper stick to your hand? No Mag gas there...
The test has a flaw... But it is a good idea...      
Whats your thoughts?
~Russ
Indeed but that is the case with all things which we view or read we have to have "faith in believing" that we view is real or do it ourself for "real" prove.
So I was talking about the test itself instead the what he is showing us.
I think the ballon in the cheapest non-magnatic container :)
I think that magnagas in "idle" state polirizes to earth N-S.
I think this can be tested with steel bar and/or compas and/or magnet.
I can agree! It's a good test, I just see problems Geting accurate results?

I can do this test for fun once we get some gas to test! And see what hapens! :)

~Russ

Blazer

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #10, on May 10th, 2011, 08:42 AM »
Hi all maybe if you teather the ballon with a thin piece of wire then ground the wire.  Would that not remove any static charges?
RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #11, on May 10th, 2011, 09:29 AM »
In reviewing some of the magna gas vids it reminds me alot of aqua fuel.  I know the process to produce aqua fuel is to strike an arc under water using carbon rods or graphite in a vacuum (Vacuum is above the water level).  The inventors name is Bill Richardson I believe.  Also with your chamber may be just the right thing to produce some aqua fuel.  Some other properties of the fuel  1. He compresses his gas with a standard air compressor  2. Lighter than air  3. Large molecular stucture he can keep standard ballons inflated of months.  4. He uses the fuel to run his car.  I think the only draw back may be the cost of the rods.  I know Mr Richardson would love to see his work developed and used.  Maybe an email and he would join the forum.  


~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #12, on May 17th, 2011, 02:26 AM »
Quote from Blazer on May 10th, 2011, 09:29 AM
In reviewing some of the magna gas vids it reminds me alot of aqua fuel.  I know the process to produce aqua fuel is to strike an arc under water using carbon rods or graphite in a vacuum (Vacuum is above the water level).  The inventors name is Bill Richardson I believe.  Also with your chamber may be just the right thing to produce some aqua fuel.  Some other properties of the fuel  1. He compresses his gas with a standard air compressor  2. Lighter than air  3. Large molecular stucture he can keep standard ballons inflated of months.  4. He uses the fuel to run his car.  I think the only draw back may be the cost of the rods.  I know Mr Richardson would love to see his work developed and used.  Maybe an email and he would join the forum.
Good stuff blazer!

Yeah watter Is + and - charges already, sonbrake them
Down with eletrolises and run them threw a carbon spark gap may
Produce similar gas? that's what I have planed! Good stuff! Thank you! ~Russ

Ps. Yeah! Invite him
Over!!!! Send him a link the site! www.rwgresearch.com

txqNL

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #13, on June 8th, 2011, 07:33 PM »
Quote from Blazer on May 10th, 2011, 09:29 AM
In reviewing some of the magna gas vids it reminds me alot of aqua fuel.  I know the process to produce aqua fuel is to strike an arc under water using carbon rods or graphite in a vacuum (Vacuum is above the water level).  The inventors name is Bill Richardson I believe.  Also with your chamber may be just the right thing to produce some aqua fuel.  Some other properties of the fuel  1. He compresses his gas with a standard air compressor  2. Lighter than air  3. Large molecular stucture he can keep standard ballons inflated of months.  4. He uses the fuel to run his car.  I think the only draw back may be the cost of the rods.  I know Mr Richardson would love to see his work developed and used.  Maybe an email and he would join the forum.
Good memory about the magnetic property of aqua fuel.
Here some quotes;
"The new chemical structure of AquaFuel implies the emergence of new technologies such as new methods for gas liquefaction, new types of fuel cells, enhanced thermochemical reactions and new methods of producing magnetically polarised gases."
from: http://www.rexresearch.com/aquafuel/aquafuel.htm

And;
"A world-renowned physicist has personally observed/supervised the last two such analyses and is convinced that the fuel contains as yet unidentified materials, electromagnetically bonded, as distinct from chemical bonding, whereupon it seems reasonable to call slow-diffusing portion(s) of the fuel "magnecules"--emphasizing their magnetic character over their size or "magnacules"--by analogy with "molecules" although their true nature remains quite mysterious. Such magnecules may be undergoing continuing changes in composition."
from; http://www.rexresearch.com/aquafuel/6113748.htm

But with device picture and schematics, looks build with pressure cookers :)


~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #14, on June 8th, 2011, 08:43 PM »Last edited on June 8th, 2011, 08:48 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from txqNL on June 8th, 2011, 07:33 PM
Quote from Blazer on May 10th, 2011, 09:29 AM
In reviewing some of the magna gas vids it reminds me alot of aqua fuel.  I know the process to produce aqua fuel is to strike an arc under water using carbon rods or graphite in a vacuum (Vacuum is above the water level).  The inventors name is Bill Richardson I believe.  Also with your chamber may be just the right thing to produce some aqua fuel.  Some other properties of the fuel  1. He compresses his gas with a standard air compressor  2. Lighter than air  3. Large molecular stucture he can keep standard ballons inflated of months.  4. He uses the fuel to run his car.  I think the only draw back may be the cost of the rods.  I know Mr Richardson would love to see his work developed and used.  Maybe an email and he would join the forum.
Good memory about the magnetic property of aqua fuel.
Here some quotes;
"The new chemical structure of AquaFuel implies the emergence of new technologies such as new methods for gas liquefaction, new types of fuel cells, enhanced thermochemical reactions and new methods of producing magnetically polarised gases."
from: http://www.rexresearch.com/aquafuel/aquafuel.htm

And;
"A world-renowned physicist has personally observed/supervised the last two such analyses and is convinced that the fuel contains as yet unidentified materials, electromagnetically bonded, as distinct from chemical bonding, whereupon it seems reasonable to call slow-diffusing portion(s) of the fuel "magnecules"--emphasizing their magnetic character over their size or "magnacules"--by analogy with "molecules" although their true nature remains quite mysterious. Such magnecules may be undergoing continuing changes in composition."
from; http://www.rexresearch.com/aquafuel/6113748.htm

But with device picture and schematics, looks build with pressure cookers :)
sweet!



also see here : http://www.magnegas.com/

its the same thing... see that's why i want to use carbon rods... :)

also there using high amps low volts... and that's also what i want to use...



 ~Russ

Max Hydroxy

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #15, on August 5th, 2011, 05:07 PM »Last edited on August 5th, 2011, 05:09 PM by Max Hydroxy
Hey Russ was wondering How to break open a Transformer tried other ways like taking a hammer to it but damaged or broke the copper insulated wires do you have a video that you can share to help me out !!
                                                                  M

~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #16, on August 5th, 2011, 06:06 PM »
Quote from Max Hydroxy on August 5th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Hey Russ was wondering How to break open a Transformer tried other ways like taking a hammer to it but damaged or broke the copper insulated wires do you have a video that you can share to help me out !!
                                                                  M
Hey buddy! So here is what I did.

This is with a transformmer with no welded seems... If it's welded you will need to grind that off first!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa-Dd5IWeHs

Hope it helps! ~Russ

sami


hhott99

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #18, on November 8th, 2011, 05:29 AM »
Great work Russ, keep it up! We need to bridge the gap between HHO and converting it to electrical energy.

~Russ


Farrah Day

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #20, on November 9th, 2011, 04:53 AM »Last edited on November 9th, 2011, 04:55 AM by Farrah Day
Hi Russ, just got here so bear with me if I'm repeating anything from other posts.

I'm new to Meyer's EPG, but was wondering if anyone has commented on the similarities between Meyer's EPG and Steven Marks TPU?

The TPU (Toroidal Power Unit) is of very similar design, but there was never any indication of a liquid or gas being employed.  The principle though was the same: That is a low energy pulsing primary cct would provide a high energy secondary output.  In TPU discussions on another forum long, long ago, I suggested the possibility of an ionic liquid core, but it went down like a lead brick.

My view on the EPG is that it would more likely employ a liquid rather than a gas. This is for two main reasons, firstly ionised gas is harder to come by and indeed harder to work with, and secondly the ion density would surely be far less with gas.  That said, if the idea is to accelerate ions at faster and faster speeds, perhaps gas would be required... I'm just not convinced this would be so.

From the liquid point of view, a simple electrolytic solution is all that would be necessary.  Furthermore, a liquid electrolytic solution would contain both anions and cations that would be caused to travel in opposing directions, so we would have current flowing both directions simultaneously - plenty of action.

So it would seem that the operation of the EPG is similar to that of a simple transformer, but with one main difference, that being an ionised fluid core.  Whereas an electron will stop - or indeed reverse direction - almost instantly due to its very tiny mass, an ion will take fractionally longer to do so. Hence there will always be a lag. But not just a lag, the relatively enormous mass of the ions would likely result in them being totally unable to match an electrons actions, hence being totally out of synch.  This I wonder is where there might be a specific frequency (or sweet spot, or a resonance - call it what you will) for any given EPG, whereby the pulsing primary creates a constant secondary output. Effectively the swing being initially pushed to a limit only requires a tiny amount of energy input to thereafter maintain its amplitude.

All very interesting and thought-provoking.  
Some good work you have going on here Russ.

~Russ

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #21, on November 9th, 2011, 05:40 AM »Last edited on November 9th, 2011, 05:41 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from Farrah Day on November 9th, 2011, 04:53 AM
Hi Russ, just got here so bear with me if I'm repeating anything from other posts.

I'm new to Meyer's EPG, but was wondering if anyone has commented on the similarities between Meyer's EPG and Steven Marks TPU?

The TPU (Toroidal Power Unit) is of very similar design, but there was never any indication of a liquid or gas being employed.  The principle though was the same: That is a low energy pulsing primary cct would provide a high energy secondary output.  In TPU discussions on another forum long, long ago, I suggested the possibility of an ionic liquid core, but it went down like a lead brick.

My view on the EPG is that it would more likely employ a liquid rather than a gas. This is for two main reasons, firstly ionised gas is harder to come by and indeed harder to work with, and secondly the ion density would surely be far less with gas.  That said, if the idea is to accelerate ions at faster and faster speeds, perhaps gas would be required... I'm just not convinced this would be so.

From the liquid point of view, a simple electrolytic solution is all that would be necessary.  Furthermore, a liquid electrolytic solution would contain both anions and cations that would be caused to travel in opposing directions, so we would have current flowing both directions simultaneously - plenty of action.

So it would seem that the operation of the EPG is similar to that of a simple transformer, but with one main difference, that being an ionised fluid core.  Whereas an electron will stop - or indeed reverse direction - almost instantly due to its very tiny mass, an ion will take fractionally longer to do so. Hence there will always be a lag. But not just a lag, the relatively enormous mass of the ions would likely result in them being totally unable to match an electrons actions, hence being totally out of synch.  This I wonder is where there might be a specific frequency (or sweet spot, or a resonance - call it what you will) for any given EPG, whereby the pulsing primary creates a constant secondary output. Effectively the swing being initially pushed to a limit only requires a tiny amount of energy input to thereafter maintain its amplitude.

All very interesting and thought-provoking.  
Some good work you have going on here Russ.
yes, i have studied the TPU a bit i and agree,

also read all this here:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=41

thanks for the feedback! its good info good thoughts!

blessings! ~Russ

Farrah Day

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #22, on November 11th, 2011, 01:05 AM »Last edited on November 11th, 2011, 01:08 AM by Farrah Day
Russ, just wondering if you have read that Meyer Dealership PDF yet, as it explains the various configurations of the EPGs you have pictured, including the multiple EPG stack, which it appears is designed as a 3-phase unit.

You may already have seen this, but just in case I thought I'd bring it to your attention.

Incidentally I'm still struggling with the idea of a magnetised gas. While I can understand magnetic material traveling around in suspension in a fluid, I can't see how particles would work in a gas... surely they would all just clump together and plug up the core!

phil

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #23, on November 11th, 2011, 04:48 AM »
In the new Zealand video Stan explains the magnetic gas, parts 8-11

Farrah Day

RE: My EPG Buiding Progress
« Reply #24, on November 11th, 2011, 08:08 AM »
Quote from phil on November 11th, 2011, 04:48 AM
In the new Zealand video Stan explains the magnetic gas, parts 8-11
Hi Phil, do you have a link to that video?