Turns of primary vic coil.

slobbysh

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Hi, I'm slobbysh, new in the forum. Together with other people we are building various cells but one of the most important problems to solve is this: how many turns should the primary coil have if I want to power it 12 volts?

Matt Watts

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I think you'll find you have to work backwards.  There seems to be an ideal transformer ratio between 1:4 and 1:6.  So you'll have to first figure out how many secondary turns you need and use that ratio to arrive at your primary number of turns.  For instance, if you determine 3000 turns is good for your secondary, the primary might work well at 500 turns.  Once you have the number of turns figured out, then you must impedance match against the DC resistance of that primary as you would with a transmission line.  The goal is to ensure you do not create unnecessary reflections between your driver and the primary coil.  You want the power delivered by the driver to be fully accepted by the primary.  So if your primary is 10 ohms, your driver should also be 10 ohms.

Now that you have ten ohms, you can see that you'll have 1.2 amps using a 12 volt source.  If your winding cannot handle 1.2 amps, start all over again.  My suggestion would be to consider using whatever voltage source works and don't stick yourself to only 12 volts.  The lower the voltage, the more tunable your system will be; higher voltage will have a very high Q-factor and be extremely difficult to tune.  Twelve volts seems to be a practical upper limit from what I can tell.  Going above this will almost certainly burn your secondary out.

HTH

securesupplies

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 noted

Matt Watts

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Dan,

I don't know where you found those specs, but they must be for a huge industrial VIC, not one like Stan had or that people here would attempt to build.

securesupplies

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Hi Matt , 

That is just a random example of what info we need to firm up, of coarse nothing like that exists it is imaginary .....
the middle column is what I want to work with you all to try and fill out so we have
more standard picture of what the Round bobbin specs are 

Guess we have to calculate number tuns to give a ball park of in put and out pout of coil
I know Russ has one there did we already post resistance and voltage spec for it?

Can we try to work together to fill specs in  on middle column  which is blank now

With the Alloy Case Stan's Was pretty big too I post this pic with it so people can see

Dan
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I have read the Excel but you have the physical on there can you post data for read please.

Have a Great Christmas and New year
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Stan States in News Letter
VIC Big Bobbin

Power Out                     KV   Stan States Applied voltage 20,000 volts goes up to 90,000 volts

Hermann Anderson Says 7.5/ 7500 is the correct frequency

Gunther Rattay

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Mixing voltage and frequency will never solve WFC technology :(

securesupplies

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7.5 Cycles per second is what Hermans Anderson States

Not jokes here only work
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 dd
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 Have a Great Christmas and New Year too !

Matt Watts


SafeDog

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This is what piss everyone, people posting things that is not related to REAL RESEARCH about this technology... Damn Securesupplies, why dont you stop bringing this trash?  Mixing igition coils with herman anderson and the meyer VIC, do you really know anything about the subject or do you have nothing useful to do?

securesupplies

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I am sorry but I am not sure what your motives are here?


This Thread is about building vic bobbin and current winding specifications.
Dan

SafeDog

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Im here to expose ALL the freaks, pseudoscientists, "talkers", scammers and money scrappers (like you and others)  and all people who spread disinformation about Meyer technology.
Is that enough to you?

Lynx

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Quote from Matt Watts on December 12th, 2018, 06:20 AM
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuWstTZKV2c
I actually listened to this, the whole thing.
It would be interesting to check out version 2 of it when it comes out (unless I've missed it altogether that is, if so please point me to it).

Matt Watts

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Quote from securesupplies on December 13th, 2018, 03:22 AM
This Thread is about build vic bobbin
Well actually, the OP was trying to figure out:
Quote from slobbysh on December 5th, 2018, 10:41 AM
Hi, I'm slobbysh, new in the forum. Together with other people we are building various cells but one of the most important problems to solve is this: how many turns should the primary coil have if I want to power it 12 volts?
Which based on what I learned from gpssonar (see second post) is about all the help I can offer, having not done this successfully myself.
Quote from securesupplies on December 13th, 2018, 03:22 AM
I am sorry but I am not sure what your motives are here?
I think SafeDog's point is pretty clear.  Unconfirmed Meyer blabber doesn't help anyone.  Not only does it not help, it hinders people trying to weed through it to find real hardcore factual information that will lead them to a solution.
Quote from Lynx on December 13th, 2018, 01:16 PM
I actually listened to this, the whole thing.
It would be interesting to check out version 2 of it when it comes out (unless I've missed it altogether that is, if so please point me to it).
I quite like many of Stephan's videos.  His warrior stuff is pretty well done and contains many key points that are worth hearing more than once.  The interview he did explaining what a psychopath is--very much worth listening to.  The major point he makes is the world didn't have to be this way.  We let the wrong creatures take control and now we will be paying the price for that mistake.  And again to SafeDog's point, if we don't figure this out pretty darn quick, our way of life is going to drastically change.  In other words, we can all forget about free energy--just finding something to eat and not freezing to death in the Winter will be priority number one.  There will be no forums, no computers, no shipping companies, no electronic component manufacturing and distribution companies, none of that.  If you don't know exactly how to tear an old TV set or microwave oven apart and harvest the parts you need to build some sort of hydrogen or electrical generation device, you're screwed.  And unfortunately, we are a long ways away from being able to do that.  I'm not sure with a blank check I could do it, or anyone else I know for that matter.  If there is someone out there that knows something, now's the time to spread the word.  Once the Internet and all the easy means of mass communication are gone, everybody is on the own to fend for themselves.

But none of that can happen right?  The bankers can just keep hitting the zero key, printing more worthless money and everything will be just fine.  Nothing will change.  We'll keep burning oil and coal, driving our cars, buying stuff online.  Seriously people, you need to crawl inside the head of these crazies and see what they see.  You won't think you're so safe.

securesupplies

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  Consolidated
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All Inputs on this part welcome

I have a Ordered in for Steel Wire that is coated it is rather costly but we will have the right stuff on hand to build these
again.If you have the Brain and Skills to make a Super cap  put out HVDC to Meyer Injector Signal with a dcdc control of
the Caps with ballast  it would be a good replacement cheaper and perform better than VIC
for sparking injector some of us are working on that at this time , chime in if you have idea on  building such equivalent
danieldonatelli1@gmail.com
Dan

Matt Watts

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Quote from securesupplies on December 13th, 2018, 09:31 PM
Total Transformer Ratio                   1 : 30

Primary Number of Winds  Inside Bobbin 
Number of Layers                     35.84
Number Turns Per Layer            81.76
Primary Resistance                  3.6 ohms
WIRE GAUGE                          25 Gauge
Skin Effect                                    107 Khz
Where did you get these numbers from?

Turns ratio from everything I've gathered is somewhere between 1:4 up to 1:6.  One to thirty is way out of the ballpark.

2930 turns on a primary coil seems way too high.  I would expect something like this number for the secondary.

Also, 3.6 ohms seems way low.  My understanding is that right around 10 to 12 ohms is the sweet spot.

securesupplies

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but Better  if we go firm measurements from the replica posted
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Progress See updates
 
Thanks Don Russ and Every one who continue to do amazing  work on this data.

SafeDog

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I simply dont understand this type of posts you make.
This does not make any sense.
Do you know anything about the subject?
Is your trash can full and you dropped right here...?
your BLA BLA BLA is not useful in anyway and because of IDOTS like you that people are leaving this boards.
You are stealing here and there some information, mixing with your B.S. and publishing to your stupid site.
The only people you are helping is yourself getting money for subscriptions.

securesupplies

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We Continue thank you for those supporting on data discussion

Data is Shaping even further thanks to countless hours
from Don Russ and Others who have bobbins and working on them constantly.

Here is the most current public data  for the Items
laminates are 0.5 mm
the 51 set grain orientated cores I can get for $5 per set cut to size.
 
WE are blessed it is 2019 and we have access to millions of people though
sharing social and online collaborations.

2019 brings with it advanced in the technology to not only makes Stan's product faster easier and globally but also
advance the performance of them. Slides Attached

More to come on these slide as they are simplified and condensed further
Data Being further Refined into One Side with more Tests and Methods 

PS Trolls are allergic to Stan Meyers Tech and data we can hear and see the coughs and sneezes LOL
Better not let that ip address slip past the fake alias  could
be embarrassing for you as we head to hydrogen fueled economy,

References from Don Russ and RWG Forum Works over years,
and Sanjo for the flat wire knowledge from his Japanese company and Dan

SafeDog

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LOL Say samething only if you have SOMETHING THAT WORKS AND MADE BY YOURSELF, You are a fraud.