Gaslighting the FE researcher

onepower

Gaslighting the FE researcher
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I have talked about Gaslighting and Narcissistic Abuse Syndrome however I would like to expand on how it applies to the Free Energy community. In fact it is very similar to what we see in the news where Trump's "friends" have supposedly mislead people to buy their silence with token payments, empty promises and NDA's. This manipulation was never about the truth nor money in my opinion... it is about manipulation to hide the truth.

In the FE community the first sign is when a friendly person who is really a psychotic narcissistic abuser offers to "help" the free energy researcher with a "gift".  They are going to send you money or equipment and materials and it is all going to be so wonderful. However it could also be to set a pattern of behavior where you will be continually reminded of your obligation to return the favor ten fold with information or technology. This is a common tactic in business and it must be made clear in writing, preferably email, by the FE researcher that this gift is a donation and there is no obligation to return the favor. However you may still receive daily or weekly phone calls and emails verging on harassment to remind you of how much you owe the narcissistic abuser.

The next level is even more heinous and if you accept gifts and felt obliged to offer information of value the abuser may offer an agreement. They will say they will find wealthy investors and generate untold wealth and all you have to do is sign this little old simple agreement and they will do all the hard work. In fact the simple agreement includes a Non-Disclosure Agreement in which you have just lost all rights to talk to anyone about anything or there will be a threat of legal action. In fact you are now obligated to turn over any information or technology to a newly formed company with investors where you are a minority shareholder. If you do not keep providing information of value in secrecy you may be fired as an employee and find your shares which are being liquidated are now apparently worthless... surprise!.

I hear this same sad story time and time again from so many FE researchers. Understand that in the mind of the often psychotic narcissistic abuser there is no gift or partnership there is only manipulation to gain advantage and control.  More often than not the technology will never see the light of day thus we must conclude the agreement was a distraction and the real power to deceive and manipulate was the NDA within it. The NDA states you will never be allowed to talk to anyone about your own technology without others permission which is why the narcissistic abuser is in truth a classic manipulator and all around douchebag.

To be clear I am not saying this narcissistic dog and pony show scam has ever happened to me personally only that I have heard it from my "friends" in the FE community. It seems the goal of many narcissistic abusers with mental disorders was never to give anything to anyone or help anyone. If helping others was the goal then logically everyone would know about FE devices and how they work however this is not the case. Thus it is logical and reasonable to assume that most all in the past who had knowledge of FE devices have been forced into silence. We need look no further than the power utility and fossil fuel industry to understand who has a vested interest in seeing this field of technology will never see the light of day.

I think Russ has the right attitude by being open and sharing with others. The other option is to jump into bed with a bunch of self-obsessed narcissists with obvious mental disorders which as we know never ends well.

~Russ

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unfortunately the choice to be open and sharing comes with a large sacrifice most are not willing to take.   For me it was to quit a " dream job" and try to find a way to be able to control my outcome with the knowledge.

So the choice is not easy for most. and the one doing the work must be very strong willed in the beliefs.

the best thing one can do is work on this stuff in there own time, and share it. the bad thing is that most come along with greed and hungry for a return of investing of time and funds.
and when there is some one on there shoulders expecting a return it makes everything even that much harder for the one doing the work.

so in the end the CHOICE is not easy. however it is the best way to make progress or so it seems.  Sharing is caring...

nothing is easy in this life....
 
~Russ

onepower

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I used to think the same way in the past however then it occurred to me... why should making the right choice, the intelligent choice be difficult?. In truth the right choice is no more difficult than the wrong choice however you can be sure at some point the latter will come full circle.

The right choice is easy when we stop listening to and being manipulated by others and start thinking for ourselves.

talisman

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I do think if some of the alternative energy inventors of the last century really had a practical device there are a lot more things that could affect the adoption of the method. No activity can be carried out without the commitment of a benefactor
 or other real commitment. The negative human traits are varied and are often a reason besides financial. I think often though if there is a really good solution there has to be some experience with the way our society is managed.

In the case of the NDA  no one needs to sign anything they do not agree to. If it was a bad or totally misunderstood deal that limited the inventor proponent from their objective then the inventor had bad judgement in managers and counsel.

In other words it is a completely different circumstances than the gym or lab even Tesla had a few that stayed on the shelf but then he was in the loop otherwise.           

onepower

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I do think if some of the alternative energy inventors of the last century really had a practical device there are a lot more things that could affect the adoption of the method. No activity can be carried out without the commitment of a benefactor
 or other real commitment. The negative human traits are varied and are often a reason besides financial.
The statements above relate to projection in my opinion, that is, because one may not be able to build a practical device themselves or believe they are completely dependent on others to support there activities they believe this must always be the case. Thus we see how people may project their own insecurities or inadequacies on others as a kind of self-reinforcement.
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In the case of the NDA  no one needs to sign anything they do not agree to. If it was a bad or totally misunderstood deal that limited the inventor proponent from their objective then the inventor had bad judgement in managers and counsel.
In my opinion this statement is classic projection, triangulation as well as victimizing the victim. More often than not the abuser will make an agreement then change the intent or spirit of said agreement and also attempt to continually change the goal posts. To be clear this is not a "mutual agreement" this is manipulation and in some cases fraud (deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain).

We should also understand that if a party can show an intent to manipulate or deceive by the other party then a court can amend or void an agreement. Regardless of what some people would have you believe all agreements have very real limitations.
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In other words it is a completely different circumstances than the gym or lab even Tesla had a few that stayed on the shelf but then he was in the loop otherwise.
In the big picture the common business practice would seem to be "catch and kill" or "manipulate to control". This does not relate to the act of equitable trade in goods and services or fair business practice in general more so narcissistic personality disorders. It was not Tesla's fault that J.P.Morgan was a classic narcissistic abuser and self-obsessed psychopath who got off on destroying others lives for profit. Morgan purposely buried technology and slandered Tesla to protect his own vested interests because he was a classic psycho/sociopath.

A common mistake made by the narcissistic abuser is in thinking they are fooling everyone however they should never confuse this with tolerance by the other party. We often tolerate there absurd and quite childish behavior only to a point and then they must be rejected.

Matt Watts

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Quote from onepower on April 16th, 08:18 AM
... absurd and quite childish behavior only to a point and then they must be rejected.
Defective is as defective does.

I was thinking more in the line of neutralized or eliminated. 

Yeah, your right, probably some law saying you can't slaughter soulless heartless creatures.

How about ionize?  They'd still be there, just in many tiny pieces.

It's a strange argument.  Even a rock is able to mind its own business, but the entities you speak of couldn't on their best day.

massive

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I see the other other thread is locked . the subject of Gas lighting is worth going back and reading the list of behaviour , it certainly is a tool that is used by scam artists and straight out abusers .