science or religion?

evostars

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recieved this,
wanted to share its truth

Matt Watts

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Just be sure not to put too much faith in that evidence.  It may not be telling you what you think it is.

We only have a handful of senses and there is no guarantee the evidence we may encounter stimulates those senses directly.
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Quote from namirha on August 4th, 2017, 01:45 AM
Because you didn't come here to make the choice, you've already made IT....
You're here to try to understand why you made IT.....

I thought you'd have figured that out by now.
Personally, I think I made a mistake.  So the only question left is:

What am I going to do about it?
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Anyone ever consider this...?

Let the matrix win.  Its victory is at the same time its defeat.

No, I'm not one of anything, I am me.  Like it or not.

~Russ

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i am me too... ~Russ

jeremy gwilt

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correction....*philosophy*, not even religion at this point. unconventional philosophy.

onepower

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"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein

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I have read much of Walter Russell's work and the work of many others like him however with all that supposed knowledge and insight one would think they would have been able to build a simple working Free Energy device by now. The facts suggest some guy experimenting in his garage is just as likely to build a Free Energy device as Walter Russell's followers are without all the spiritual sacred geometry hocus pocus. Don't get me wrong it is entertaining if a person has a lot of free time on their hands and nothing better to do however we have big problems here on Earth in reality with few workable solutions.

Personally I put more credence in Russ Gries video presentation at the energy conference. Think it - build it - show it - share it open sourcing has been far more productive than any of this spiritual sacred geometry hocus pocus in my opinion. People invoking real change with their own hands will change the world not wishful thinking.

evostars

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I agree. reading is fun and can inspire. but for me experimenting has teached me a lot more.
concepts are fun but most of the time not (fully) correct.
while experimenting gives factual result that leads to new inspiration.

jeremy gwilt

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ok....those huge spam responses are getting really annoying. i cant even catch up on REAL responses due to the damn images continuing to load.

NAMIRHA IF YOURE READING THIS PLEASE TRIM THAT STUFF DOWN TO IMMEDIATELY RELEVANT RESOURCES.

there may be something in there worth sharing, but as long as it comes across in a big ol' spam pile nobody is going to sift through it every 2 days!

thx1138v2

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Quote from evostars on August 3rd, 2017, 02:56 PM
recieved this,
wanted to share its truth
If you consider the word "God" to mean everything that exists on all scales, known and not yet known, physical and non-physical, there is no question of "Science or Religion". It is Science AND Religion. God speaks not in words but in actions. Science is the study of everything that is. Religion is the study of what men have said about God. Both have value. They exist side by side.

Is God beneficient? Everything that exists came together in such a way that we exist. Could it be any clearer?


onepower

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Is God beneficient? Everything that exists came together in such a way that we exist. Could it be any clearer?
If we are bound to the belief that everything must have been "created" by a god then so must god have been "created" by the same belief. Thus we always come full circle to the chicken and the egg dilemma do we not?. If I threw a rock in the air and it hit you on the head is it a bad rock and if it missed you is it a good rock despite the fact it is just a rock governed by known laws?. Should we be conferring human traits to inanimate objects and statistic probabilities?,

Did you know the odds of winning a lottery are 1 in 14 million yet the odds of being struck by lightning are 1 in 700,000 so statistically speaking I could be struck by lightning 20 times before I won a lottery. On another note I googled the chances on inventing a free energy device and I hit this link.

https://www.quora.com/Will-successfully-inventing-a-free-energy-machine-make-me-a-billionaire
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Unfortunately you can’t patent an idea. You can only patent “embodiments,” and unless you can afford the time/funding for extensive secret research, where you proceed to invent every single future version of your device, you can’t control the spread of the breakthrough technology. Of course you’d have to afford lawyer/patent fees to protect every one of these, in all major countries (not just USA patents.) And you’ll have to afford to go to court everywhere to stop the patent-encroachers, just like Wright Brothers tried, to their ruin.
It would seem to me we are damned if we do and and damned if we don't so why not be damned on our terms. Think it - build it - show it - share it open source and let history figure out the details. As a friend once proclaimed at 2 am while quite inebriated, God hates a coward and he had a quite valid point despite his intoxication. 

Matt Watts

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Quote from jeremy gwilt on August 21st, 2017, 03:59 PM
NAMIRHA IF YOURE READING THIS PLEASE TRIM THAT STUFF DOWN TO IMMEDIATELY RELEVANT RESOURCES.
Put it here if anyone should want to reference it.

namirha

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Quote from Matt Watts on August 21st, 2017, 08:54 PM
Put it here if anyone should want to reference it.
TRIM THAT STUFF DOWN

WHY.... :(

I do all  my WORK on a Packard Bell Netbook, 10 years old... :shocked:

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUYNsrU4Q6M

please explain, what is the problem.... O:-)

this my internet speed :)