Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging

KevinW_EnhancedLiving


kcarring

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #1, on January 12th, 2012, 11:49 PM »Last edited on January 12th, 2012, 11:51 PM by kcarring
Kevin,

I think that in my replication, the particular coil I used, it is intended to be used with a driver, you know? Something to step it up, FIRST, say from 12V to maybe 3-400 perhaps, because the literature says there is a module THEN it's supposed to go up to the 20K, or so... are you aware of this?

http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Stock_Replacement/8202_-_Blaster_2_Coil_Hi-Performance.aspx

I wonder how that may have affected my experiment.

PS > I did revive the battery. Odd. I hit it with a Bedini for a while until it looked like it was taking a charge (13.5V did nothing on it, when it stood at about 10) - then I hit it with 15.5VDC standard charge and she came back to life.

I also researched a couple of simple circuits I'm sure would drive it in an absense of ground... the colpitts, and the bubba oscillators should both do the trick.

Cheers



KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #2, on January 13th, 2012, 08:03 AM »
Quote from kcarring on January 12th, 2012, 11:49 PM
Kevin,

I think that in my replication, the particular coil I used, it is intended to be used with a driver, you know? Something to step it up, FIRST, say from 12V to maybe 3-400 perhaps, because the literature says there is a module THEN it's supposed to go up to the 20K, or so... are you aware of this?

http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Stock_Replacement/8202_-_Blaster_2_Coil_Hi-Performance.aspx

I wonder how that may have affected my experiment.

PS > I did revive the battery. Odd. I hit it with a Bedini for a while until it looked like it was taking a charge (13.5V did nothing on it, when it stood at about 10) - then I hit it with 15.5VDC standard charge and she came back to life.

I also researched a couple of simple circuits I'm sure would drive it in an absense of ground... the colpitts, and the bubba oscillators should both do the trick.

Cheers
Hey kcarring,

Are these your videos?

I have not seen the literature on this device. Imhoteps Video on it is blocked here in canada.

So you say you need to step it up because of the type of ignition coil you are using?
http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Stock_Replacement/8202_-_Blaster_2_Coil_Hi-Performance.aspx
Is this the coil you are using or are recommending?

So this circuit is using the ground for an oscillator right?  Thats why you want to try replacing them with  colpitts, and the bubba  oscillators?

Thanks

kcarring

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #3, on January 13th, 2012, 10:34 AM »Last edited on January 13th, 2012, 10:35 AM by kcarring
Kevin,

No...I thought you were kdkinen, a friend of mine, the owner of those videos / experiments... I am user kylecarrington on youtube, and have my own experience with this circuit documented. Overall I did not see a useful charging effect nor high output for usable light, but it may have been that my voltages were too low to truly obtain the negistor effect one is shooting for in this circuit. To trigger the circuit, one needs to attach the first transistor to earth ground: that is where it gets its' signal. Later, I am referring to the Colpitts or Bubba oscillator as an alternative possible method to the earth ground, yes, correct. This circuit did something rather strange to my battery... but it was recovered with a Bedini, and then subsequent conventional high voltage charges... but initially a normal charge looked at it (while dead) and thought it was charged. It messed with the battery a bit. So be forewarned LOL. It was interesting though, even just to drive transistors in that method.

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #4, on January 13th, 2012, 06:22 PM »
Quote from kcarring on January 13th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Kevin,

No...I thought you were kdkinen, a friend of mine, the owner of those videos / experiments... I am user kylecarrington on youtube, and have my own experience with this circuit documented. Overall I did not see a useful charging effect nor high output for usable light, but it may have been that my voltages were too low to truly obtain the negistor effect one is shooting for in this circuit. To trigger the circuit, one needs to attach the first transistor to earth ground: that is where it gets its' signal. Later, I am referring to the Colpitts or Bubba oscillator as an alternative possible method to the earth ground, yes, correct. This circuit did something rather strange to my battery... but it was recovered with a Bedini, and then subsequent conventional high voltage charges... but initially a normal charge looked at it (while dead) and thought it was charged. It messed with the battery a bit. So be forewarned LOL. It was interesting though, even just to drive transistors in that method.
Im going to put one together once I have a ignition coil. Do you know what to look for when selecting an ignition coil?

Earth Frequency is 7.83 Hz right?  the Schumann Resonance

I am looking at the Colpitts or Bubba oscillators. I dont see any components that are adjustable. How do you tune the things?

kcarring

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #5, on January 13th, 2012, 07:03 PM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 13th, 2012, 06:22 PM
Im going to put one together once I have a ignition coil. Do you know what to look for when selecting an ignition coil? Earth Frequency is 7.83 Hz right?  the Schumann Resonance I am looking at the Colpitts or Bubba oscillators. I dont see any components that are adjustable. How do you tune the things?
The coil should be one that does not have an internal resistor, is about all that I know. It's quick and easy circuit. I know the circuit looks bizarre, but it does work, just try it first with a -real- earth ground. And a potentiometer. The other oscillators were simply ideas to replace the earth gorund, for example a bubba oscillator. Page 15.7.4

Another alternative is to try taking a section of connecting wire and do several loops around a power cord plugged into AC wall outlet. Just wrap the cord though, dont connect it in any way; just grab the signal is all... This did not work for me, however - i just used a true Earth ground. Mine fired right up. Careful - high voltage! Good luck.



KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #6, on January 13th, 2012, 09:46 PM »

kcarring

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #7, on January 14th, 2012, 01:51 AM »Last edited on January 14th, 2012, 01:57 AM by kcarring
i won't say that I completely lost faith in it... more like... my circuit was not optimized for any degree of useful light output (kdkinens appears much better that way). I never did ask him whathis circuit drew, mine was about 80 mA. Given not real usable light...  I think my voltage was low. Or the transisters needed to be driven harder (not surprising, im surprised that it oscillated at all!) ...

in any event, still very much out to jury on that one... no real conclusions.
It really seemed to hold voltage for a long while (as u can see in my long video essay LOL - i think, if i remember correctly it ran for over 28 hours). and then boom, it just dumped on my. Perhaps the high voltage, wired as such gives a sort of fluffy potential plate charge... but it's not a real charge...? And then whamo, your done, no power in the battery. thats my "guess" but who knows....

i think that the concept is that the tube acts a negistor... and in resonance, if all things are right.. what you gain by the negitive resistance, is supposed to offset it all, but.. that would require believing that there is free energy available in an inductive coil collapse, which i know imhotep believes... and me... ive yet to see it!

If i was getting good light output, which i wasn't.. id have stayed a lot more inspired to continue.

I've not seen any free energy, yet, from anything... so i wont bash it. Its all fun!

cncjoe

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #8, on May 8th, 2012, 10:06 PM »
Did you guys totally abandon this? I'm about to try it. Just need another coil.


kcarring

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #9, on May 9th, 2012, 09:14 PM »Last edited on May 9th, 2012, 09:14 PM by kcarring
Quote from cncjoe on May 8th, 2012, 10:06 PM
Did you guys totally abandon this? I'm about to try it. Just need another coil.
Actually kdkinen has a newer variant where he lights up several LED bulbs for 100 mA / 12V that is pretty impressive, or would appear so, on a video: see his page on youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SETDfvB4kwA


cncjoe

RE: Imhotep Radiant CFL Oscillator and self-charging
« Reply #10, on May 9th, 2012, 11:16 PM »
Quote from kcarring on May 9th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Quote from cncjoe on May 8th, 2012, 10:06 PM
Did you guys totally abandon this? I'm about to try it. Just need another coil.
Actually kdkinen has a newer variant where he lights up several LED bulbs for 100 mA / 12V that is pretty impressive, or would appear so, on a video: see his page on youtube.
Yeah. Watching his videos is what originally inspired me to try it. Actually though, I'm building an LED fixture for my reef tank and would love to try powering it with something like this. What is a little unclear to me is that it seems his oscillator side is consuming 100ma but does that mean anything as far as the current in the stepped down side? I mean, is he getting 120v AC .1A 12W out of the second coil? Do the electronics in the lamps rectify, step down, and limit the current of the incoming AC to what the diodes need? No. Come to think of it, he's using two identical coils. The oscillator induces a high voltage in the secondary of the first coil. Then that HV is fed into the secondary of the second coil and it induces a low voltage in the primary. Did you guys measure the volts/amps of your second coil? I'm just wondering if/how I'm going to have to condition the signal(?) in order to light my DC diodes. Thanks for replying by the way. I love that about this forum!:D