PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread

AcidByte

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #75, on May 24th, 2016, 11:37 PM »
Quote from alloytam on May 24th, 2016, 05:37 PM
it made from 3d printer,
consist ot 9 + 1 segment
this is the initial picture...now the frame has modified accomodated my circuit,
soon will upload my latest video...with load test
https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/p206x206/13240736_10154260199609884_4281483692206265676_n.jpg?oh=d3c5b2c4a6b81a4932a27075c4b6543b&oe=57C6AC83&__gda__=1474698901_9b675a6163e0609482208e6e4b38bbb2
that thing is pretty!!! :)
got neo's in it?
for the coils are you aiming for air/ferrite or iron?
if iron it gonna need a lot momentum to keep it going, and also torque when loaded.
you could however fill caps from the coils
and pulse discharge them into a cap bank.
if you dont discharge the cap completely in the bank there will be less drag on the generators rotor!
also PMH type of coils are cool in generators!
as they envoke lenzlaw from the beginning.
loading a PMH will cause lenzlaw to go away.
also using generator coils to pump electrons from earth is a cool expiriment.
then u can short the coil on alignment with the magnet.
and get 300+ volts from ground ;)
pumping the shorted coil between 2 ground gives a extra voltage bonus (very weird but i've seen it happen here a few times alreaddy)
without the coil shorting i did 1 test.
generator coil was loaded with a cap to bring the coil in resonance wich made 1 coil give me about 35 volts from a super pole (2 same poles pressed together)
then pumped it through ground giving me an extra 20 volts.
end up with filling caps to 55 volts.
then i applied coil shorting wich gave me a phenominal 370 volts in caps. really unbelievable cool!!
Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #76, on May 24th, 2016, 11:37 PM »
Quote from PeakPositive on May 24th, 2016, 08:16 PM
This is quick video preview of what I'm building. It's kind of a Window Motor on steroids.

One drive coil and 3 generator coils, if all goes well and get it made in time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJvtCpBWAgI

PeakPositive
i like to see that build complete!
very nice design!

alloytam

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #77, on May 25th, 2016, 05:39 AM »
Quote from AcidByte
that thing is pretty!!! :)
got neo's in it?
for the co...
...really unbelievable cool!!
[/quote
thanks for the information..tho a bit hard for me to understand about coil shorting...
this single coil (0.6mm dia. mag wired) can reach 18V dc at 500rpm with that flywheel(36x3pcs neo magnet)
because my fan blade has broken , i change another fan blade...
now got higher RPM and torque(maybe)
i did used cap (2x16v1,000uf ) and diode(2x1n4007) to rectify each coil....


be noted that my power is constant....

i did connect in series...the DC voltage zapppppped me (accidentally touched two terminal)
it did effect on RPM very much when loaded
but it light up the LED when i touch 1 terminal only...
just like kennsplace experience before at his JR....

now it can reach 50v in all parallel....farad value could be 32f (32x1,000uf)
thinking to change cap voltage value to 100v 1,000uf

now with proper arrangement,
the RPM did not drop much when loaded
with condition i don't drop the cap voltage much...
as you told previous message compiled with my result,

now planning to make more flywheel and coil (around 0.6mm to 1.0mm dia. mag wire)
want lower voltage around 12v-14v
then check the rpm....

i did studied those motor built by youtuber for a while
i think pulse motor is most efficient so far (tested recently)
zero force motor could be too...

i have to study more on mechanical / magnetic / physic stuff  / torque to understand better....
maybe you could teach me about how to shorting the coil

Thanks

AcidByte

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #78, on May 25th, 2016, 06:11 AM »Last edited on May 25th, 2016, 06:44 AM
Quote from alloytam on May 25th, 2016, 05:39 AM
[quote author=AcidByte
that thing is pretty!!! :)
got neo's in it?
for the co...
...really unbelievable cool!!


thanks for the information..tho a bit hard for me to understand about coil shorting...
this single coil (0.6mm dia. mag wired) can reach 18V dc at 500rpm with that flywheel(36x3pcs neo magnet)
because my fan blade has broken , i change another fan blade...
now got higher RPM and torque(maybe)
i did used cap (2x16v1,000uf ) and diode(2x1n4007) to rectify each coil....


be noted that my power is constant....

i did connect in series...the DC voltage zapppppped me (accidentally touched two terminal)
it did effect on RPM very much when loaded
but it light up the LED when i touch 1 terminal only...
just like kennsplace experience before at his JR....

now it can reach 50v in all parallel....farad value could be 32f (32x1,000uf)
thinking to change cap voltage value to 100v 1,000uf

now with proper arrangement,
the RPM did not drop much when loaded
with condition i don't drop the cap voltage much...
as you told previous message compiled with my result,

now planning to make more flywheel and coil (around 0.6mm to 1.0mm dia. mag wire)
want lower voltage around 12v-14v
then check the rpm....

i did studied those motor built by youtuber for a while
i think pulse motor is most efficient so far (tested recently)
zero force motor could be too...

i have to study more on mechanical / magnetic / physic stuff  / torque to understand better....
maybe you could teach me about how to shorting the coil

Thanks

[/quote]aa yeah rectify it like in the muller dynamo!? thats a good trick
also what can work against lenz is even number magnets and uneven number of coil!!
giving each coil it's on time in space to fill that cap.
but not all together.
so lenz only works on 1 at the time while taking the potential of all coils on the output.

lighting the led 1 wire. thats an odd effect only see that happen with rf or higher voltage (in that cause you are ground hehehe)
i had that led effect on strange places (on my micro bedini for instance)
also with my solid state tesla coil
i walk arround the room with a led in my hand
touching metal parts in the room with the other leg of the led. works great hehehe

32 * 1000uF is 32 mF :)
the rpm usually depens a bit on type of core your using and the current draw from the coil.
using pipe as core sliced so its not round anymore drag a bit
then take some welding rods and give them a little clear paint layer and put them in aswell :)
low drag but good flux path

and of course i can tell you all i know about coil shorting :)
Quote from alloytam on May 25th, 2016, 05:39 AM

Don Leibold

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #79, on May 26th, 2016, 03:29 PM »Last edited on May 26th, 2016, 03:37 PM
Nice ...alloytam do you have a higher res shot ... when zoomed in its blurry

mnsman

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #81, on May 26th, 2016, 05:31 PM »
PMBO 2016 youtube playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4iGRzW04DY0PTZxIe8YKkwj_Z5ZUHqZG

I encourage everyone to watch the playlist and give these guys THUMBS UP and positive feedback in the comments.  And please check to make sure your entry, update and final videos are all included in the playlist.  If there is something I missed please notify me here or preferably directly at youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAJ1YROMQpRp98DXcBHwRvQ

alloytam

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #82, on May 26th, 2016, 07:31 PM »
Quote
« Reply #79, 4 hours ago »Last edited 4 hours ago
Nice ...alloytam do you have a higher res shot ... when zoomed in its blurry
try watch in HD quality
should be no problem

Scottsterthemonster

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #83, on May 27th, 2016, 12:32 PM »Last edited on May 27th, 2016, 12:36 PM
Here is my post with the link to you tube.


https://youtu.be/Xb55TEUmEn4

Enjoy.    Scott Russell

PS guys I couldn't get the intro vid to work. BUT IT IS nice work. cool Walter Russell vortices.

Lynx

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #84, on May 27th, 2016, 10:24 PM »
That's quite the motor Scott, good luck :-)

Vinnystvincent

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #85, on May 28th, 2016, 02:43 PM »
Hi to all
This is going to be fun building Ed Leedskalnins magnetic genator,
I'am using old 1908 ford model t v-shape magnets , that were used for the charging system. 120 of them , also using ford flywheel for weight. And ring gear x2 to sandwich down between the magnets , to hold them in place, now because of the spin I will let like Ed set this all in concrete.
Plan is to pluse the magnets with Eds PMH. By using x2 12 volt car batteries, I think that Ed desalfated the car batteries , when they went bad. This is caused by the plates building up layers of materials on them so they can't hold a charge any longer, by hitting them with a strong back EMF charge, this will break off the build up, and the battery will work. Also I'am using Eds wheel to make a DC wireless pulse motor. Thank you for my entry. Roy St.vincent@ vinnystvincent on YouTube. Over snd out!

mnsman

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #86, on May 29th, 2016, 09:12 AM »Last edited on May 29th, 2016, 09:45 AM
Hi all,

Time is running out.  Tick Tick Tick... :)  Sorry to be redundant pointing out the playlists but we want to be absolutely sure we are including everyone.  Here are playlists to date. All video entry announcements, updates and final videos here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4iGRzW04DY1gkPpg1-X27GNfbICjs45f . Here are all of the final entries only: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4iGRzW04DY1gkPpg1-X27GNfbICjs45f . If you are entered and your video(s) are not in the lists be sure to contact me as soon as possible so you are included.  If it's on the list we know about you and you are entered. Another clue you are in is that I left a comment on your final video indicating that I have put your videos in the playlists.

I've enjoyed watching all of the videos.  Sorry I haven't commented even though I've been tempted I didn't feel it appropriate.  All great work and thanks to everyone for participating and sharing.

Jim

alloytam

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #87, on May 29th, 2016, 10:29 PM »Last edited on May 29th, 2016, 10:32 PM
after finish watching those clip,
it come across this guys,
but in the list
not sure is he joining or not


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_BEH6F4zd4

~Russ

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #88, on May 30th, 2016, 05:21 PM »
i posted it any how. i'm sure he wanted to enter...  thanks any one else find video please let us know :) ~Russ

sonsoftesladotcom

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #89, on May 30th, 2016, 06:02 PM »
Sorry Russ my video took two hours to upload and I wasn't able to modify my earlier post to give the url, I just wanted to post it for you to have a look see, I am not expecting to win but just wanted to be in the group of  entries if I can when you post them. Thanks Bob

https://youtu.be/oG174xRSPIc

alloytam

Re: PMBO 2016 General Discussion Thread
« Reply #90, on May 31st, 2016, 03:36 AM »
more and more are participating!!!
well done participle (included me, blek) 
GOOD LUCK!!!