Kapanadze Generator

pha3z


phil

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #26, on March 12th, 2012, 04:49 PM »
Heres a little pdf with some LMD stuff and some tesla experiments. Not going to pretend i understaned the equations at the end at all yet. But there we go.

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pha3z

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #27, on March 12th, 2012, 06:45 PM »Last edited on March 12th, 2012, 07:26 PM by pha3z
Thanks for the link, Phil!  I've read that presentation before.  You'll notice on one of the pages it says "Longitudinal waves, devoid of magnetic component, emitted from a spherical antenna have been yet observed in past[10]."

The key operator is "devoid of magnetic component."  And from what I understand, to make it devoid of magnetic component, you've got to utilize the voltage transient impressed upon the spherical antenna when the LMD wave races to the top/center of transmitter coil and crashes into the antenna.  The TME wave will follow afterward in the wake of the LMD.  If you let the TME wave take over, you'll introduce the magnetic component and you don't have a pure scalar wave transmission anymore.

I'm going to think out loud here, because I've hit so many brick walls in my work, that I am scratching at the doorposts for the right direction go in next.  My brain is bleeding!  So don't get too confused by what I'm saying.  Anyone who reads this, should ust look at the problems I point out and use them as food for thought.  Or give me the answers if you have them! :)

The one thing that has frustrated me beyond belief in studying all this stuff, and doing my own bench tests (of which have all been failures thus far), is that you'll notice people use "standing waves" and "stationary waves" terms loosely and throw them around as if a standing wave is automatically the magic creature to get all these scalar energy and OU type effects.  I see no reason to think that this is the case.    You can have a TME standing wave in the system and get none of the scalar effects.

I have aquired quite a bit of knowledge on these waves through painstakingly study of cryptic information presented by others.  And I've been thinking about making a presentation in the form of a PDF on this matter.  But I'm extremely hesitant to do so since I have not yet built a working scalar system with scalar effects.  I could be completely wrong in everything I say and don't have a platform to stand on.

There are two problems with my setup.  Firstly, it COULD be that I have not built large spiral pancake secondaries.  I use conventional cylindrical coil like conventional Tesla.  Meyl actually claims Tesla Coil builders prefer the cylindrical coil out of ignorance.  He seems to indicate that pancake transmitter/receiver is the preferred design.  However, I won't praise him as the authority on everything either.  His material is rather cryptic and hodge-podge.  He's got his own take on everything, and I don't believe everything he says is correct.  I have seen absolutely no argument or evidence ever to convincingly show that a cylinder coil won't work.  Also consider that Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter was NOT a pancake coil.

I have small pancake secondaries but they function in the several Mhz range and I do not have the equipment to operate them.  I should have made them bigger.

The second possible problem which I believe is actually the real problem is that I have always operated my systems at TME frequency.  From what I gather, the TME frequency SHOULD be the frequency of the ring-down you see on an oscope view of circuit after you pulse the circuit with a very short pulse.  The sinusoidal ring-down is the NET result of the LMD and TME waves at work in the system, but in particular, I believe that the ring-down will more-or-less represent TME propagation.  The TME wave is limited by electrical propagation along the line conductor below the speed of light.  The LMD wave is a transient effect in space caused by the capacity between conductors.  Notice that this LMD wave will jump across conductors and race through a coil faster than the TME or ordinary current can keep up.

Here's the ironic thing that I am 90% certain I am correct about and had to figure it out myself as anyone might roll something over in his mind until the full mechanics come together:
1. When the antenna is charged, you have a difference of potential between the antenna and ground.  As a result, the antenna will naturally want to discharge.  
2. The antenna will begin to discharge.  The beginning of current flow is the formation of the leading edge of the TME wave.  Notice this wave will more-or-less follow the conductor in the form of current.
3. As soon as TME wave begins to propagate, you now have voltage drop in the antenna.  The voltage drop is instantaneously felt by nearby conductors. This is the cause of the LMD wave formation!!   It is ironic that this wave will race ahead jumping across the conductors and reach the ground AHEAD of the TME wave.  In fact, since its accelerated, it will only get farther and farther ahead of the TME wave the longer the coil is.  It is ironic that the LMD wave occurs as the effect of the discharge and TME formation, yet the LMD wave can propagate faster than the TME wave.

Noone anywhere seems to have pointed this out in the way I just explained.  And yet, my mechanical explanation seems to most clearly (at least in my eyes) explain how you get OU effects and broken symmetry with this superluminal velocity wave.  The LMD wave is able to produce disturbances in other circuits and other parts of a given circuit before the exciting charge ever reaches that part of the circuit.

I will give credit to Alex Petty for helping to form my view.  He seems to have an extremely good perspective about superluminal effects and even the math behind them.

Now all this stuff could be a bunch of nonsense really when it comes to the Donald Smith and Kapanadze devices, but I don't think so.  I think its got real merit and directly applies.  Why?  Because I haven't seen anyone (and I have asked and asked and probed) EVER be able to properly explain how these devices cause OU.   The best I've seen came from Arunas (Lithuania) T-1000 claiming that its not a critical issue to get obsessed with specific coil geometries -- what matters most, he said, is breaking symmetry with a standing wave.  Ok?  So?  I've built a system that has standing waves -- did it break symmetry? ABSOLUTELY NOT.  My system doesn't work!   Building standing waves isn't enough.  You can still get magnetic and dielectric coupling effects where anything you do to the load is still felt by the source.  And personally, I can't see anyway to avoid this other than by using superluminal velocity waves that cause a time-separation between the exciting source charge and the effect in the load.

If anyone's familiar with Vladimir Utkin's work, please speak up (vladimir has a document on the web that demonstrates all kinds of ways to supposedly break symmetry and get OU effects).  I've studied his PDF a whole lot and even corresponded with him.  And he always gives me really poor answers and acts like I'm the one who doesn't get it.  I point blank asked him if he achieved OU on his desk, and he didn't respond.  There is a very good chance I have not properly implemented the designs he explains.  I hope the problem is only on my end.
I am going to add one thing that might blow everything I said out of the water.

When I was pooring through some material last night, I did notice a claim that Tesla set his recievers up to charge capacitors and timed the capacitors to discharge between the pulses they received.  The claim did NOT say whether those discharges happened after every single pulse or only after N number of pulses.  It did, however, say, that Tesla had a lot of trouble keeping the timing of these discharges  correct.

I will point out that the charging of a capacitor automatically changes the resonant frequency of the reciever (Hence the need to discharge it).  This has been a huge pain in the neck that I have found with my devices.  In order to have the system work at all, I believe the capacitor must be discharged after EVERY pulse.  The output must be completely isolated from the recieving circuit as much as possible.  This dilemma is why Donald Smith devices have been so confusing for people to figure out.  Its one thing to create a standing wave or resonant condition.  Its a completely different thing to impart the magnified energy  to a load without losing the parameters of resonance.  This is why you see wanna-be replications running light bulbs and resistive loads.  A resistive load doesn't change teh capacity or inductance of the circuit.  Anybody can build a resonant circuit and stick a resistor or lightbulb in there.  Few have done more than that.

The way I see it, its a pain in the neck to store up any significant amount of power in a capacitive form.  The energy has got to be imparted to a load and used up on demand, to clear the path for more energy to flow in from the resonant circuitry.  The condition for resonance must be maintained!

- Jim

Had to post one more thing.  Glad Phil called attention again to this pdf from Handwerker.

Handwerker goes out of his way to point out this:
Thereare two different main resonance frequencies f0 and f1, where f1= 1,57 .f0; for instance f0= 1 MHz and f1= 1,57 MHz; the relationship is therefore: f1 = f2 * pi/2

But your scope doesn't show two resonant frequencies.  Hence, the fact that I concluded the ring-down frequency must be the TME frequency and the one I mistakenly used in all past attempts.

phil

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #29, on March 13th, 2012, 04:02 PM »
Ive read Utkins stuff a few times. Just not got round to making anything, so ive got no results to share. I dont know if im missing something in the translation from russian, it reads to me like hes saying...here are some bullets, now go make youre own gun! :)

 Seems theres a few people out there and out eastern europe way in general claiming OU, youve got t1000, wes, arunas, zilano, TPU and there was TK. (Has he died? I know he was poisioned but in hospital.)

So i wondered if youre primary freq. was 1 mhz say and you made a secondary circuit to resonate at 1.57 mhz we'd be capturing the longitudinal waves?

Just been having  little brainstorm, but bare with me. 1.57 is not a million miles off 1.6 (phi, golden ratio?) , its seen in nature, linked to the fibbonacci sequence (don smith says something about this too in one of his vids)

Liked the water antenna thing, a few things sprung to mind, is there a limit to the number of glass recievers you can fit around 1 transmitter? Can they chuck the output thru a step-down transformer instead of a neon tube to get some amps?

panonoobis

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #30, on March 13th, 2012, 07:05 PM »
Quote from phil on March 13th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Ive read Utkins stuff a few times. Just not got round to making anything, so ive got no results to share. I dont know if im missing something in the translation from russian, it reads to me like hes saying...here are some bullets, now go make youre own gun! :)

 Seems theres a few people out there and out eastern europe way in general claiming OU, youve got t1000, wes, arunas, zilano, TPU and there was TK. (Has he died? I know he was poisioned but in hospital.)

So i wondered if youre primary freq. was 1 mhz say and you made a secondary circuit to resonate at 1.57 mhz we'd be capturing the longitudinal waves?

Just been having  little brainstorm, but bare with me. 1.57 is not a million miles off 1.6 (phi, golden ratio?) , its seen in nature, linked to the fibbonacci sequence (don smith says something about this too in one of his vids)

Liked the water antenna thing, a few things sprung to mind, is there a limit to the number of glass recievers you can fit around 1 transmitter? Can they chuck the output thru a step-down transformer instead of a neon tube to get some amps?
Hey Phill

i was having the same breanstorm :P

but woldent it be so if you tune a primary on 1mhz and a sec on 1.57mhz woldend the LMD resonence of the sec coil be f1= f0. phi / 2 = 1.57.phi / 2 = 2.46mhz

becous of the diffrent tipe of waves TEM > LMD you have diffrend resonace points for diffrent waves.

and isint a tesla coil build for generating LMD waves becouse of resonance..?
but i dont know im still new to all of this.. hihihi
it would be a nice experiment  2 do someday soon.

greets,,

pha3z

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #31, on March 13th, 2012, 07:36 PM »
I believe Zilano is a disinformant agent.  She always talks about how great "resonance" is.  There is nothing magical about resonance alone.  It takes more than just oscillatory LC resonance to get overunity.

There are other resonances besides LC resonance.  But Zilano never mentions that. As long as people stay in the dark about multiple different resonances in these systems, everyone will continue to look at the broken old underunity idea of Electromagnetic LC Resonance.  I just read an article last night from a guy pointing out that within an oscillating coil, you also have Magnetic (not EM LC tank circuit resonance, but pure magnetic) Resonance.  This is a whole different phenomena and the magnetic resonance of a circuit is DIFFERENT than its natural oscillation LC frequency!

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Is there a limit to the number of water column receivers you can fit around the transmitter?  This is where the whole dilemma I've been talking about comes from.  If you transmit waves at the TEM frequency, you will find that anything conductive in the viscinity of the transmitter effects the transmitter.  A receiver ends up acting like one plate of a capacitor and the transmitter acts like the other plate.  So as soon as you introduce the reciever to the system, you change the capacitant behavior of the transmitter.

I had to do tons of my own experiments to figure this out.  I can't find any way around it when you are using ordinary TEM frequency.  That's why I mentioned Utkin's work.  Utkin has all these great ideas illustrating on how you can "break symmetry" and overcome the problem.  But I've tested some of htem and they don't work as described.  I have corresponded with him about this and he finally said "There is no way to take energy out of the system without changing it."   Then I replied and said "I don't agree with you." because I think he's looking at it wrong.   Everything he says has to do with special field arrangements.  None of it has anything to do with time.  I believe time is the key to everything because of the behavior of wave propagation.

Hence the fact that Handwerker clearly says there are TWO distinct resonant frequencies.  And one of them is for the LMD wave which travels faster than conducted electricity.  According to Meyl's claims, the LMD frequency is automatically OU and the TEM frequency is way under unity.

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Btw, I asked our fellow Tesla Coil builders from the famous Pupman group about LMD waves and one of them came back with some garbage about "pseudo-science".   These clowns don't even know what an LMD wave is.  

Both waves appear in the circuit.  But which resonance point you pick determines which wave manifests most strongly.  Guess which wave the tesla coilers pick?  The TEM wave.  Pure wasted magnetic high current energy.

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Regarding your ideas of resonating the primary as a TEM circuit and amplifying LMD waves in the secondary by setting it to resonate at LMD frequency, this is a good thought.  You're thinking outside the box.  I won't comment beyond that.

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Regarding Phi ratio, do you know what the definition of the Phi ratio is?  It is completely different and unrelated to the 1.57 ratio.  And what you percieve as a small difference in numbers is actually a HUGE difference.  Phi ratio is special in that if you pick any two numbers with the Phi ratio, those numbers will have the least possible number of common harmonics, octaves, factors, etc etc.  Think of Phi ratio as the most dissident combination possible.  It creates the greatest dis-harmony.  This could be used favorably if you wanted to create two resonating circuits that had the least affect on each other or possibly limit their effect to be one-directional so that one effects the other but not vice versa.

I can tell you that the 1.57 and the Phi ratios being close is completely coincidence.  I can say that with confidence because of the sensitivity of LMD circuits.  I have built highly magnetic (thick wound coils) as well as highly dielectric (single layer coils) and used both of them in resonant circuits.  The highly magnetic circuits are extremely forgiving.  You can tune to a frequency that is off by as much as 25 percent and still get resonant effects.  With a highly dielectric circuit, if you're off by even 5 percent, you will have absolutely no resonance.  They are extremely intolerant of tuning mistakes.  This is always why the LMD wave easily alludes our pursuits.  It is highly sensitive.

- Jim

panonoobis

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #32, on March 14th, 2012, 10:06 AM »Last edited on March 14th, 2012, 10:36 AM by panonoobis
hola,,

whel harmonics are importent as we know, and i whas thinking hehe :P

if the kapanadze from above the one with a modulation coil of 230v 50hz

if u take a harmonic of 50hz and make that the rf of the coil than you could modulate the 50hz with no problem right..?

and sommting more. if we take the note 'G' 48hz (if we use pythagorean scale)

and we  take the 15th harmonic of it like this 48*2^15 we wil get 1.57....mhz
"""BREANSTORM""""
so if we would take a 48hz modulation coil and a 1.57mhz hv coil and take a the outpute coil and tune it to f1=1.57*phi/2 =2.46 mhz so we would generate LMD waves and pick them up with the LMD tune't outpute coil. just a brainstorm hihi,

and some verry intrusing vids about Vibratory Physics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fuon4admnM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANyxWx48oVg&feature=related

greets,,


phil

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #33, on March 15th, 2012, 08:20 AM »
Quote from panonoobis on March 14th, 2012, 10:06 AM
hola,,

whel harmonics are importent as we know, and i whas thinking hehe :P

if the kapanadze from above the one with a modulation coil of 230v 50hz

if u take a harmonic of 50hz and make that the rf of the coil than you could modulate the 50hz with no problem right..?

and sommting more. if we take the note 'G' 48hz (if we use pythagorean scale)

and we  take the 15th harmonic of it like this 48*2^15 we wil get 1.57....mhz
"""BREANSTORM""""
so if we would take a 48hz modulation coil and a 1.57mhz hv coil and take a the outpute coil and tune it to f1=1.57*phi/2 =2.46 mhz so we would generate LMD waves and pick them up with the LMD tune't outpute coil. just a brainstorm hihi,

and some verry intrusing vids about Vibratory Physics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fuon4admnM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANyxWx48oVg&feature=related

greets,,
Interesting you came out with 2.46 in your calculation. Didnt don smith say we are supposed to divide something by 246 in his calculations, to get the correct wire length? I never fully grasped that as when i ran the numbers i always ended up with a huge wire length. He goes on to say you chop it down to a managable size, say 10 feet. Then why bother calculatng the length if we are just supposed to chop it down afterwards.

panonoobis

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #34, on March 17th, 2012, 05:17 AM »Last edited on March 17th, 2012, 05:42 PM by panonoobis
Quote from phil on March 15th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Interesting you came out with 2.46 in your calculation. Didnt don smith say we are supposed to divide something by 246 in his calculations, to get the correct wire length? I never fully grasped that as when i ran the numbers i always ended up with a huge wire length. He goes on to say you chop it down to a managable size, say 10 feet. Then why bother calculatng the length if we are just supposed to chop it down afterwards.
hola phill

whel the 247 thingy that don smith doe is the same as (C/f)/4 this wil give u the selfres from the wire don does it in feet thats way he use's 247 like this..

247/20mhz you wil get 12.35 feet wich is 3.76m
if we use metric you could use this formula to (c/f)/4 (300000/2000khz)/4 is 3.75.....meter ;) (the litle difrence is just conversion crap from feet to Meters)

the think is you could use wire langths to calculate a aprox frequentie of the system, but jou can also just use a wire langht an @ a capasitor to get it to the resonent frequentie so it realy does not matter, if you have the monny you could use caps otherwise you might want to use wire langts. but to get to khz rage you wil need ALOT of wire or you could use a feriet core ... hihi using a mhz rage frequentie would be cool for the wirelangt but crazylie imposible without hv caps to get to that frequentie.  


Greets

Jeff Nading

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #35, on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM »
Phil did you finish building this?:D

phil

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #36, on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM »Last edited on May 15th, 2012, 04:39 PM by phil
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Quote from phil on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Oh and in the same chapter theres an english translation of that dynotron video been added recently.

Jeff Nading

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #37, on May 15th, 2012, 05:30 PM »
Quote from phil on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Quote from phil on May 15th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Phil did you finish building this?:D
All buildings been off lately, and ive had to become a bit of a lurker. Still working full time but trying to get my own business off the ground. Just not got the time right now.
I did come across this kapadnze info page 107 onwards
 http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf

This guy seems to offer up an explanation for how TK did it.
Oh and in the same chapter theres an english translation of that dynotron video been added recently.
Thanks Phil, I'll look into that  and I hope your business takes off :cool:, I'm trying the same, ebay though, Have fun,:D Jeff.:P

supercharged928gts

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #38, on January 22nd, 2013, 02:24 PM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on December 21st, 2011, 06:39 AM
I thought i would Start a post for the Kapanadze Generator.

The Original Kapanadze is what I would like to replicate. Although the video replica is a little schetchy it does seem real. Unlike the others, the Kapanadze is Self powered and started with only a 9V Battery

There seems to be three device classifications:

1) Kapanadze
Schematic:
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/kapa/Kapanadze.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkvXoDfk7g&feature=player_embedded


2) Kapagen
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/
The kapagen by Jean-Louis Naudin. Is a working replication!! It is not self powered, but is proven to work!
http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/kapa/Kapagen.gif



3) SR193



Other Forums Threads Sources...

http://teep.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=821&whichpage=2

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5756-my-smith-kanapadz-replication-14.html





So I am wondering if anyone has a source for the ferrite core rings for the Kapanadze. There are 20 of them with a OD 45mm u=2000 for a total length of 140mm which would equal 7mm width
I would try www.digikey.com, I think they carry ferrite beads.

FaradayEZ

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #39, on January 28th, 2013, 09:46 AM »
Quote from phil on January 2nd, 2012, 10:30 AM
Have a look here,     http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf      Pages 40 - 48.

A recently posted complete schematic and build guide from a guy who is claiming to be living off the grid, and cheap to build so far as i can tell. So i thought i'd take a crack at it as ive got most of the bits already. The glues drying on the spool at the minute and ive gotta wait for a couple of parts to be delivered but will let you know how it goes.
And? Anybody in our group any success?


tika

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #40, on February 6th, 2013, 11:19 AM »Last edited on February 22nd, 2013, 11:54 PM by tika
Hello to all, I just joined in and this is my first post.
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 11th, 2012, 08:11 AM
So I am still looking for a source for these ferrite rings found in the kapanadze schematics

20 ferrite rings are needed
The specs are:
u=2000
OD= 45mm
Length= 7mm  (I calculated this from schematics)(140mm total Length /20)


Any leads would be awesome,

Thnaks!
I found them on eBay, but the vendor only has 16 of them 'for the moment'.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Russian-Ferrite-Ring-45x28x8mm-M2000-Ferrite-Transformer-Ferrite-Toroid-/251180364035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7b843103

If you are in Russia, you can find thicker ones (45x28x12mm), same material here:

http://vertex-rd.ru/catalog/5510435/10444/

Unfortunately, they do not ship outside Russia.

I will try chinese parts for now...

My plan is to try both the RS193 and the Naudin coils, with the RS193 circuit driving it.  Both with a Microwave oven and a HV TV transformer.  

I have a feeling a microwave transformer will not work straight in a closed loop, because there is no storage of the 220VAC, wheras the large 47000uF + 10000uF caps in the 9V power bus will probably hold enough charge to produce the next spark.

Anybody has any thoughts about that ?


A while ago, on Youtube, I came across videos of a guy playing with ferrites.  He had about half a dozen of ring ferrites assembled to form a tube and really stange stuff was going on.  

He had two straight pieces of wire going though the tube and fed voltage to one of them. The other wire was connected to an LED which would light.

Has anybody else seen these videos ?  I cannot find them :(

I am waiting for toroids and should get them next week. Will most definitely try to replicate.

I think that is the key to what makes TK's coil work.

UPDATE:

The ferrite ring did not work.   I am still looking for these videos to check if I missed something...

UPDATE:

New source for these russian ferrites:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261150499750

m:o)

securesupplies

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #41, on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM »
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan

tika

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #42, on February 9th, 2013, 08:03 AM »
Quote from securesupplies on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan
The parts list is in the schematics.  The HV (TR3) transformer is a TV line transformer.  and the other one a regular 9 V transformer.  As to buying one, it is a bit difficult, because of patent issues.  And I haven't seen a replication directly linked to a working schematics yet.

I got a TV line transformer for 12 euros on eBay.  The 45mm ferrites also.  But not the exact ones specified.  Everything else is off-the-shelf stuff you can get at your favorite electronics store.  Getting the exact same power transistors matter little, but they must withstand at least 2 Amps, voltage is fairly low, but you cannot go wrong with 100V ones, as they are not very expensive.

JL Naudin uses varistors to protect the loads, and that is a lot cheaper than a new light bulb!

For the spark gap, you will need to improvise.  I've seen pretty much everything from spark plugs to wood screws used for that purpose.  If you use a spark plug, remember there is going to be 2 to 3kV on both electrodes.

There is definitely deadly high voltage in this circuit, so be careful to keep the HV wires and connections in one localized section of your build.  The schematics has them crossing the page, but that's only so it fits on the plan.  Keep them as far away from the rest of the circuit as possible.

I am still waiting for delivery of parts, and should start building in the next 10 days, if all goes well.

Good luck!

securesupplies

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #43, on February 10th, 2013, 10:12 PM »
Quote from tika on February 9th, 2013, 08:03 AM
Quote from securesupplies on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan
The parts list is in the schematics.  The HV (TR3) transformer is a TV line transformer.  and the other one a regular 9 V transformer.  As to buying one, it is a bit difficult, because of patent issues.  And I haven't seen a replication directly linked to a working schematics yet.

I got a TV line transformer for 12 euros on eBay.  The 45mm ferrites also.  But not the exact ones specified.  Everything else is off-the-shelf stuff you can get at your favorite electronics store.  Getting the exact same power transistors matter little, but they must withstand at least 2 Amps, voltage is fairly low, but you cannot go wrong with 100V ones, as they are not very expensive.

JL Naudin uses varistors to protect the loads, and that is a lot cheaper than a new light bulb!

For the spark gap, you will need to improvise.  I've seen pretty much everything from spark plugs to wood screws used for that purpose.  If you use a spark plug, remember there is going to be 2 to 3kV on both electrodes.

There is definitely deadly high voltage in this circuit, so be careful to keep the HV wires and connections in one localized section of your build.  The schematics has them crossing the page, but that's only so it fits on the plan.  Keep them as far away from the rest of the circuit as possible.

I am still waiting for delivery of parts, and should start building in the next 10 days, if all goes well.

Good luck!
cool can you post a part list in word?
with any sources


tika

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #44, on February 10th, 2013, 10:48 PM »
Quote from securesupplies on February 10th, 2013, 10:12 PM
Quote from tika on February 9th, 2013, 08:03 AM
Quote from securesupplies on February 9th, 2013, 06:41 AM
hi can you post a Kapanadze Generator parts summary
where to find parts and ones you need to find

or where to buy ready built
Kapanadze Generators.

and we will all help search and get it happening
dan
The parts list is in the schematics.  The HV (TR3) transformer is a TV line transformer.  and the other one a regular 9 V transformer.  As to buying one, it is a bit difficult, because of patent issues.  And I haven't seen a replication directly linked to a working schematics yet.

I got a TV line transformer for 12 euros on eBay.  The 45mm ferrites also.  But not the exact ones specified.  Everything else is off-the-shelf stuff you can get at your favorite electronics store.  Getting the exact same power transistors matter little, but they must withstand at least 2 Amps, voltage is fairly low, but you cannot go wrong with 100V ones, as they are not very expensive.

JL Naudin uses varistors to protect the loads, and that is a lot cheaper than a new light bulb!

For the spark gap, you will need to improvise.  I've seen pretty much everything from spark plugs to wood screws used for that purpose.  If you use a spark plug, remember there is going to be 2 to 3kV on both electrodes.

There is definitely deadly high voltage in this circuit, so be careful to keep the HV wires and connections in one localized section of your build.  The schematics has them crossing the page, but that's only so it fits on the plan.  Keep them as far away from the rest of the circuit as possible.

I am still waiting for delivery of parts, and should start building in the next 10 days, if all goes well.

Good luck!
cool can you post a part list in word?
with any sources
Read my previous post.

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #45, on February 12th, 2013, 09:06 AM »
Quote from tika on February 6th, 2013, 11:19 AM
Hello to all, I just joined in and this is my first post.
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on January 11th, 2012, 08:11 AM
So I am still looking for a source for these ferrite rings found in the kapanadze schematics

20 ferrite rings are needed
The specs are:
u=2000
OD= 45mm
Length= 7mm  (I calculated this from schematics)(140mm total Length /20)


Any leads would be awesome,

Thnaks!
I found them on eBay, but the vendor only has 16 of them 'for the moment'.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Russian-Ferrite-Ring-45x28x8mm-M2000-Ferrite-Transformer-Ferrite-Toroid-/251180364035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7b843103

If you are in Russia, you can find thicker ones (45x28x12mm), same material here:

http://vertex-rd.ru/catalog/5510435/10444/

Unfortunately, they do not ship outside Russia.

I will try chinese parts for now...

My plan is to try both the RS193 and the Naudin coils, with the RS193 circuit driving it.  Both with a Microwave oven and a HV TV transformer.  

I have a feeling a microwave transformer will not work straight in a closed loop, because there is no storage of the 220VAC, wheras the large 47000uF + 10000uF caps in the 9V power bus will probably hold enough charge to produce the next spark.

Anybody has any thoughts about that ?



A while ago, on Youtube, I came across videos of a guy playing with ferrites.  He had about half a dozen of ring ferrites assembled to form a tube and really stange stuff was going on.  

He had two straight pieces of wire going though the tube and fed voltage to one of them. The other wire was connected to an LED which would light.

Has anybody else seen these videos ?  I cannot find them :(

I am waiting for toroids and should get them next week. Will most definitely try to replicate.

I think that is the key to what makes TK's coil work.

UPDATE:

The ferrite ring did not work.   I am still looking for these videos to check if I missed something...
Wow, great job sourcing out those parts. Please keep us updated

tika

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #46, on February 22nd, 2013, 11:25 PM »
Quote
A while ago, on Youtube, I came across videos of a guy playing with ferrites.  He had about half a dozen of ring ferrites assembled to form a tube and really stange stuff was going on.  

He had two straight pieces of wire going though the tube and fed voltage to one of them. The other wire was connected to an LED which would light.

Has anybody else seen these videos ?  I cannot find them :(

I am waiting for toroids and should get them next week. Will most definitely try to replicate.

I think that is the key to what makes TK's coil work.

UPDATE:

The ferrite ring did not work.   I am still looking for these videos to check if I missed something...
UPDATE:

Didi not find these videos but found this related experiment on Naudin's site. There is definitely something there:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE01en.htm


m:o)

Matt Watts

RE: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #47, on February 22nd, 2013, 11:38 PM »Last edited on February 22nd, 2013, 11:52 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from tika on February 22nd, 2013, 11:25 PM
Didi not find these videos but found this related experiment on Naudin's site. There is definitely something there:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE01en.htm
Studying it now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3pBBrMq0s

Taking things a step further, I also recommend his work on the BiTT transformer which logically is quite appealing--a transformer where loading the output shows no additional load to the input.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE03en.htm

tika


securesupplies

Dan: Kapanadze Generator
« Reply #49, on February 25th, 2013, 07:34 AM »
HI

PLease,

 keep posting
Step by step how to build,
and parts sources for these,
and spec of preferred items

this will help all of us understand it fast,

and assist re builders get started immediate basis.

This raises common knowledge faster.

We can than assist expanding it with more sources and
build tech

For all

Dan