"Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #25, on July 9th, 2015, 07:58 PM »Last edited on July 10th, 2015, 09:14 AM
Hello again everyone. Nice to see some discussion... Awesome :)

1st, it would be cool to have some sort of table off to the side of this forum page for everyone to place links of peer-reviewed papers that are associated with LENR in genera.

2nd. I have made some progress with my Palladium to Carbon Arduino Monitored LENR setup... I have a lot more work to do including making a drawing on a some sort of computerized platform... I'm thinking LTSpice woud be a good one, that way we can all mess around with the circuit and get an in depth view of whats going...

I plan on having all of the sensors that are required to measure real evidence.. But I have to start with the easiest and cheapest first, that is why I am logging VDC, Current, Vessel temp, ambient temp.... The geiger counter will come later, not too much later.

Figuring out all of this stuff has been a somewhat enjoyable challenge.
On my next post I will have a computer drawn (LTspice file) schematic and my arduino code file.
If I do measure and calculate more Joules out than in (in the form of excess heat), I will be enticed to delve deeper, harder, faster, further.

(link doesn't work, will get new pic tonight)
The picture attached is where my setup is this moment... In very short order I will have to do some thermal-co-efficient calculations and run some tests...Much to learn.

I am using set 5V voltage reference for the Arduino using an LM358 op-amp IC... I am also providing a stable 5V for the thermistors(4 of them) via an LM358 set to 5V... It is coming along.
Peace everyone, lets work together and see what sort of fascinating evidence we can come up with...




Gunther Rattay

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #26, on July 9th, 2015, 11:25 PM »
@benkomisar

interesting hardware project :) keep on!

(btw link doesn´t work ...)

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #27, on July 10th, 2015, 09:12 AM »Last edited on July 11th, 2015, 07:11 PM
@Gunther Rattay

Thanks for letting me know that the link wasn't working... I will share a better picture than the one that was attache to the link later on tonight.

Yes, this is my first foray into the world of sensors and data-logging. Thank you for the encouragement :)

On-ward and up-ward.

Peace :)
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #28, on July 11th, 2015, 05:54 PM »Last edited on July 11th, 2015, 11:23 PM
Here is a link of what the setup I have functioning looks like.
https://plus.google.com/photos/109787787603959937342/albums/6170411109523674881

I have a text file that I can graph with spreadsheet software.

This is the file of the first test run.. I have to still figure out how to do the math functions in spreadsheet software.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5bjyhHb3j4lRGxfaVZtNDVrSXc/view?usp=sharing (<--comma separated spreadsheet fie)

Here is the arduino code I am using. The reason I have the digital write pins in there is because I want to make a Switched Mode Power Supply (12-50V <--maybe higher) for the vessel power supply... I want to use PWM from the arduino to power a FET driver-IC then a drive a
http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irfb4127pbf.pdf. (<--MOSFET)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5bjyhHb3j4lOS1VcUhYUDV6OXM/view?usp=sharing (<--arduino code)
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #29, on July 11th, 2015, 08:40 PM »
I will have to draw up a schematic on the computer and share that file too.

Diadon

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #30, on July 11th, 2015, 10:18 PM »
I just got my 125C thermistors today and my Instrument amplifier. Still been working on a new smaller chamber with a few modifications ^^ Looking forward to seeing the data my brother. I need better video editing software as windows movie maker is buggy on my OS. I have a video I would like to share that is pretty interesting once I get it spliced up. 45min. video would bore the pants off even the most dedicated researcher lol. Are you going to use a separate arduino for the PWM to the MOSFET? Or the same as the data logger. Thanks for sharing the specs and code as this will be a fantastic spot for us to reference. Keep it all located openly for everyone :)
Here is some cell construction information and one of many interpretations of an apparatus. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson_Power_Cell

-Talk to you guys soon
 

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #31, on July 11th, 2015, 11:50 PM »
@ Diadon
"Are you going to use a separate arduino for the PWM to the MOSFET? Or the same as the data logger."

Yes, I hope to anyways... | really want to free up my variac for other projects and get this whole LENR/data logging apparatus in a neater, more compact, more portable configuration... If you/we could power the entire thing off of one ATX-PSU and one arduino board, well.. that would be kind of slick... I just wish I was better at coding with arduino.. or just coding in general for that matter.

Peace :)

freephases

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #32, on July 12th, 2015, 01:57 AM »Last edited on July 12th, 2015, 04:20 AM
@benkomisar looking good.  I could not access the spreadsheet / CSV file.  I plan to play with thermistor today from another project but never need to use an amp with it before, i will look more in to it. I have a number of current sensors i should be able to use.  What are you using for voltage sensor?  It is just a voltage divider or are you using a component? Have you given a list of the parts you are using?  ALso where do you think best place to stick my thermistor is? Submerged? I only have 1, but see you are using 4.

I plan to log my data on to MySQL database and display on a web page with google charts.  I could make it so it can be used by other people but it means having 24/7 internet connection and is risk if i lose internet no one can log data.  There are online services so i've read that would be in the cloud so much more resilient than my server could be.  Not sure which way to go yet and may just log to SD card first and then send data to web site just once a day.

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #33, on July 12th, 2015, 01:56 PM »
Hello Freephases :)

I am going to draw up on LTSpice a schematic with parts list on the file.
I should have done that a long time ago..
I am logging the voltage via voltage divider (1M-100k) so my range is 0-55V that can be adjusted... I'm thinking for the SMPS: Boost Converter I am going to build, i am gong to try for a voltage range from 12-170V, we will see.
I know you know this, but be sure to use an isolation transformer to power the load, the variac is not isolated.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #35, on July 12th, 2015, 07:47 PM »
Quote from freephases on July 12th, 2015, 01:57 AM
@benkomisar looking good.  I could not access the spreadsheet / CSV file.  I plan to play with thermistor today from another project but never need to use an amp with it before, i will look more in to it. I have a number of current sensors i should be able to use.  What are you using for voltage sensor?  It is just a voltage divider or are you using a component? Have you given a list of the parts you are using?  ALso where do you think best place to stick my thermistor is? Submerged? I only have 1, but see you are using 4.

I plan to log my data on to MySQL database and display on a web page with google charts.  I could make it so it can be used by other people but it means having 24/7 internet connection and is risk if i lose internet no one can log data.  There are online services so i've read that would be in the cloud so much more resilient than my server could be.  Not sure which way to go yet and may just log to SD card first and then send data to web site just once a day.
Hi freephases, welcome.

To all, there is a arduino based open source energy monitor package (made from modules) here at:

open energy monitor

The basics of it are that you have sensors of whatever type ( temp, current, voltage, flow, etc) run into an arduino, then the arduino processes that data, and ships it out to either a datalogging computer or an online web server.   

I set up a system a few years ago based on the original outdated / outmoded system that was not the modular design they show now.   I used my system for solar hot water monitoring and control. It has 4 temp sensors  and pump control, and I was going to implement solar tracking, P.V. power tracking as well as windmill monitoring and dump load control.  I ran out of motivation.
Here are my attempts:Open Energy Monitor - Kenssurplus' multiple energy source home.   

I have not followed the development of their new system much, but I think it would do whatever you wanted to do to monitor your cells or apparatus.

freephases

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #36, on July 14th, 2015, 01:56 PM »
Thanks kenssurplus.  Will check that out.

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #37, on July 14th, 2015, 09:54 PM »Last edited on July 15th, 2015, 02:02 AM
Hello again everyone, I hope everyone is doing well :)
I have made a half decent Switched Mode Power Supply: Boost Converter for the LENR + monitoring and data-logging experiment/s I/we are all doing...
I have also ordered a SD data-logging module for the arduino, and I ordered a couple of wireless 2.7Ghz serial port adapters... I am hoping to have a setup that i can turn on, put in the corner and not have to worry about too much.. The reason I built this SMPS is to free up my auto-transformer for other projects to work on while I run LENR tests...

In the link there is a picture of the SMPS:Boost Converter I am going to use (I used the cool coil just because I made it a year or so ago, and have to use it for something. :)
A scope shot of operation at about 124VDC across an incandescent light bulb (against the 12V signal on the gate)
Also there is a screen shot of the schematic I drew up on LTSpice...
https://plus.google.com/+BinjKomisar11/posts/UP27LtrfDdh
https://plus.google.com/+BinjKomisar11/posts/czpnQoK9W1t

Peace Everyone :)

Diadon

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #38, on July 16th, 2015, 01:47 AM »
You are out pacing me at every step and I love it my friend. You inspire me to keep learning more and get this logger done. Right now I am unwinding a 6" toroid for an iso-transfromer and learning how to use CoolTerm to export serial too text. I been looking though Pulse Fire and Open energy like you suggested Ken. This seems a little easier for me to wrap my head around. I have not looked into MySQL Peter, might have to check that out as well.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-log-data-from-the-arduino-board/
We have got a ton of work too do fellas and the more we share, the further we can find what works well. I have noticed in a fluid to get D2 to move past the -Cathode, a coanda action happens if the cathode is reactor centered and anode is on parameter.  In theory, it should pass the heavy water to the outside of the chamber walls and then through the center like a vortex.  Alright, well back to multi tasking and I hope you guys are all doing well. Keep on exploring possibility to its fullest.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #39, on July 16th, 2015, 07:59 AM »
I thought I would show a sample of one of my datalogs from my solar hot water monitoring and control system.
This is just to give you an idea of how to visualize your data stream.

The Y (vertical) index indicates temp in C, while the X (horizontal) shows time.  With KST, you can zoom into an area to investigate what happened at a particular time.
The lowest line represents pump control (on/off), The red line represents the collection tank water temp.  Green shows the solar collector panel air temp inside the panel.  Black is the solar collector panel fluid out temp, and blue is the heat exchanger input inside the collection tank.

This graph shows 5 data streams (could be much more, or less) for a day.  I have run several days of data-logging, but then the amount of data points becomes quite large and starts to bog down an old ancient desktop computer that I use for logging. 
Anyway, hope this generates a spark of interest in someone.  (puns always intended:-).

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #40, on July 16th, 2015, 04:05 PM »
Nice charts and cool system.
May I ask a question?
How did you post the picture with it showing, all I can post (it seems) are links.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #41, on July 16th, 2015, 08:40 PM »
When you compose a post, there is a small mona-lisa picture button on the very left bottom row of editor buttons.
click that and it asks you for your URL to the picture.  So, what I do is I have my pictures hosted at photobucket, not from my hard drive or by uploading directly to the forum.  The URL link in the mona lisa button, just points the forum to where the picture is located at on the web, and the forum loads and displays the pics.

At photobucket, I choose the image I want, then select it so that it is the only one showing.  Then there are some sharing links given for the picture I want to share.  I use the Direct link to paste into the mona lisa dialog.


Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #42, on July 17th, 2015, 11:17 AM »Last edited on July 17th, 2015, 11:23 AM
Oh, one other thing I forgot to mention is that try to convert all my pics to .bmp format (as some forums only accept that format - but right now I can't remember which forums).  For this forum, I noticed that it accepts .jpg format as well.

Since I am thinking about it, I will propose a caution.  If you intend to use wireless sensor modules or have any other devices that emit rf (wireless link for a laptop, mobile phone, etc....) You may have some errors introduced from rf energy entering the cell.  Also, if you are going to watch the emission spectrum from the test unit, then those same errors obviously would need to be excluded from the  spectrum analyser readings.

Great to have so many interested in this area.  Keep at it.

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #43, on July 17th, 2015, 12:20 PM »Last edited on July 17th, 2015, 12:22 PM
@ Diadon, the excellent thing is that this is long term project land... We don't have deadlines other than those we set for ourselves...

Peace bruh,

@kenssurplus

Thank you for the excellent well thought out and detailed response. I will be trying that photobucket-mona lisa process the next time I plan to share a picture.

For right now I am just using a USB cord as the serial connection... I do want to try the rf serial port with this low power (non-plasma) configuration... If there is to much rf interference we can filter it (either by hardware or software) and if its too bad, we will just have to go back to the cable.

I have also ordered a SD data logging shield from e-bay. If they work I will be amazed, for $11 canadian I got the wireless serial port module, the SD data logging shield (with SD card included (<-I believe) and 10 100uH 6A ferrite inductors...

Anyways, thanks again for the help Kenssurplus.

Peace :)

Diadon

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #44, on July 17th, 2015, 10:31 PM »
This is a quick video of an experiment I did a few weeks ago, that show the effects of fluid motion in a liquid based reactor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh9Zpf-VXHI
Its a short boring video but you can see as the temperature and gas increase the resistance goes up, and stops the current from flowing by way of electromotive means. The energy transitions and then flows by way of thermal pressure. Gas production also plays a role in pressure differential ejecting the hotter fluid out of the polyvinyl graphite diaphragm on the top. The bottom also has a inlet for the fluid with the +Anode is connected. This design can be improved upon and utilized for many reasons. Just an interesting observation when I was doing experimenting with a diaphragm catalyst idea.

kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #45, on July 26th, 2015, 12:08 PM »Last edited on July 26th, 2015, 06:37 PM
Hey all,  I have been thinking about sharing my conversations with Mr Norman Wootan about his cavitation pump experiement.  So, I posted the exchange to my bench.

Dr Oleg Gritskevitch's 1.5 Megawatt Generator

It is related to the Cold Fusion or LENR area of investigation, by cavitation bubble vortexes  (tornadoes) manifesting blue to UV plasma discharges.

Matt Watts

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #46, on July 26th, 2015, 03:05 PM »
Quote from kenssurplus on July 26th, 2015, 12:08 PM
It is related to the Cold Fusion or LENR area of investigation, by cavitation bubble vortexes  (tornadoes) manifesting blue to UV plasma discharges.
Interesting.  Now you make me wish I would have used clear plastic tubing when I did my Mark LeClair experiment.
https://nanospireinc.com/Fusion.html

I did see enough on the Inspector to know to leave this sort of thing for the big boys.

benkomisar

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #47, on July 26th, 2015, 06:31 PM »Last edited on July 26th, 2015, 06:36 PM
Interesting stuff @Kenssurplus, I have heard of other suction based cavitation bubble collapse on aluminum sheet for alchemical transmutation... I think the guys experimenting with that method filed a patent and are going the commercial route... Very interesting..

Anyways, here is an update of where I am at with my LENR Arduino Temperature Monitoring system.. I have it all built into one unit. I have had some setbacks with my computer situation (laptop died), but it is OK... I have another and I need to redo the script.. But all in all, things are progressing nicely... I hope to have some meaningful data to share within the month... Peace everyone.. Also, the vessel is only lit up like that because I have installed LEDs for observation purposes... Thanks everyone for doing what you do...
Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #48, on August 3rd, 2015, 12:49 AM »
Here is some really, really good information in regards to LENR/Cold Fusion phenomenon...
In my opinion, these MIT course videos and the information outlined in them are the best proof on earth to date of OU phenomenon..
The great thing about Cold Fusion/LENR is that there is no violations of known and proven laws of thermodynamics involved.
The energy gain are coming from conversions of tiny amounts of mass and converted into thermal energy..
This Cold Fusion/LENR stuff is the one true oasis for us alternative energy researchers.
If anyone can show me where the grass is greener in this field (alternative energy) please let me know... And please don't show me data I can argue against in any way.
If you are interested please take the time to carefully watch and listen to these videos.
LENR/Cold Fusion is an oasis for alternative energy seekers, since mainstream scientist will be black-listed if they even express interest in this field of study, I feel it is up to us alternative energy hobbyist (who aren't reliant on grants and University money for our bread and butter) to take a serious look into this... I truly feel that with a concerted effort in being scientifically stringent, we can advance this field.. This is our oasis. The proof is in the nuclear pudding.

MIT Cold Fusion/LENR course day 1

MIT Cold Fusion/LENR course day 2

MIT Cold Fusion/LENR course day 3

MIT Cold Fusion/LENR course day 4

MIT Cold Fusion/LENR course day 5


kenssurplus

Re: "Cold Fusion" or LENR to the opensource community
« Reply #49, on August 5th, 2015, 07:16 PM »
Hey Ben, thanks for finding those videos.  That is a lot of watching!  I am only through the first day or so but very good info so far.

There is deffinately something goin on both with the tech. as well as with the community, government, and business.  Makes one think deeply.

Keep sharing.