Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode

Farrah Day

Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« on January 19th, 2014, 03:01 AM »Last edited on January 19th, 2014, 10:00 AM by Jeff Nading
Old news now, and many of you may have seen this, but in case not, here's a link to the original You-tube video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17xjF9cHDNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17xjF9cHDNc

I post this as I've done some work along these line and some of you might find the results interesting.
RE: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #1, on January 19th, 2014, 06:15 AM »Last edited on January 19th, 2014, 06:17 AM by Farrah Day
So, here's some of my work on the subject, the results and a little science.

Stiffler was radiating water with electromagnetic energy produced by a SEC - a test tube of water with a small signal diode fully submerged. Stiffler was convinced that this was unknown science that was yet to be explained, and that something extraordinary was occurring because only hydrogen was seen to be evolving from one leg of the diode. Huh?

At the time I offered an explanation to what was happening and it did not go down too well. My explanation was aggressively opposed not only by Stiffler, but also by many of his devotees.

But Stiffler was making some rudimentary blunders in his assumptions, the most obvious being that only hydrogen was being produced. Of course you have to ask yourself how can you split the water molecule and be left only with hydrogen - of course you can't, but Stiffler refused point blank to discuss the point.

In actual fact, all that is happening is that the small signal diode is simply rectifying the EMR which then provides a tiny voltage drop across itself. This is enough to initiate standard Faraday electrolysis, hydrogen evolves at one leg of the diode, while oxygen evolves at the other… but the oxygen immediately reacts with the tin plating on the one diode leg, turns to SnO and slowly precipitates to the bottom of the test tube. Hence no oxygen is seen to be evolving as a gas, but it is still being produced. Faraday’s Laws of Electrolysis in action.

To satisfy myself that I was indeed thinking along the correct lines I did quite a lot of experimenting with this and found that I could achieve the same or better results than Stiffler with his SECs, with a simple Joule Thief or a car ignition coil generating EMR (at various frequencies).  

I also realised that the diode body itself does not need to be submerged as Stiffler had done; just the legs are all that is required to be in the water.  I also used LEDs instead of small signal diodes to great effect.

I've uploaded diagrams of my experiments:

Matt Watts

RE: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #2, on January 19th, 2014, 10:12 AM »
Interesting research Farrah.  I would presume different eyes see different facets to this experiment.  The thing I see is this appears to be an open system where the test tube is only being excited by a single capacitive connection.  So I would have to ask, is there any limitation as to how much gas can be liberated?  Or does the ceiling for this value converge upon the output power of the SEC?  Do we know for a fact whether these two values are independent of each other?  Because if they are, a fixed amount of input power would then be capable of an unlimited output in the form of gas production and that is something revolutionary indeed.

It would seem to me that multiple diodes could be fitted with stainless steel sleeves and added to the test apparatus while plotting output production.  I would expect production to roll off to some maximum value, but this may not be the case.  Instead, production may continue in a linear fashion as diodes are added.  This would be something worth finding out.

If at some point, enough diodes are added to where the production volume exceeds the Faraday calculated maximum (based on input power), we can presume excitation is the cause for this reaction, not power consumption or energy transfer.  This would mean energy can in fact be tapped from the Aether as one would hope to be possible.

Farrah Day

RE: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #3, on January 19th, 2014, 10:35 AM »
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It would seem to me that multiple diodes could be fitted with stainless steel sleeves and added to the test apparatus while plotting output production. I would expect production to roll off to some maximum value, but this may not be the case. Instead, production may continue in a linear fashion as diodes are added. This would be something worth finding out.
Hi Matt, I think Stiffler had exactly this in mind. That is, maybe it could, as you suggest, be scaled up using multiple diodes to greatly increase gas output for any given input.

From my own experience using small signal diodes, I found it was very hard to tell. However, when I substituted them for LEDs then it became obvious that the more LEDs I added the lower their brightness dropped. Now whether Stiffler's SEC would produce any different results, I don't know, but given that he never seemed to follow up on this work it might suggest not.

It should be noted that I could get no gas evolving whatsoever when I substituted either the LEDs or small signal diodes (1N4148) with heavy duty rectifier diodes such as 1N4000 series.

Nevertheless it is all very interesting and does open yet another avenue for research and exploration.

Matt Watts

RE: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #4, on January 19th, 2014, 10:40 AM »Last edited on January 19th, 2014, 07:38 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from Farrah Day on January 19th, 2014, 10:35 AM
It should be noted that I could get no gas evolving whatsoever when I substituted either the LEDs or small signal diodes (1N4148) with heavy duty rectifier diodes such as 1N4000 series.
Experimenting with my Slayer Exciter, I noticed the same thing.  Only fast recovery diodes are capable of keeping up with the frequencies in the kHz range.

massive

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #5, on September 22nd, 2015, 01:45 PM »Last edited on September 22nd, 2015, 01:47 PM
The experiments done by farrah day and the diagrams show a LED/diode connected to earth

THAT is the most important thing of the experiment . the circuit stiffler used isnt important at all .

diodes and LEDs allow electrons to pass in 1 direction only and if electrons arrive from the environment , they are FREE!!

this applies to Ruslan ,Akula , stubblefield and any other inventor drawing electrons from the environment
drawing energy from outside of a circuit should be the main focus of any project .

our present system is based on closed circuits that deplete the power source and we have to renew the power source = more money $$

lightning is proof there is a continous current supplied to the earth and telurric currents

farrah days experiments on this page confirm electrons are being drawn into the circuit .  this has been over looked with tech by stan meyer , puharich , horvath and others , maybe even dad garrett in 1930s!!

Matt Watts

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #6, on September 22nd, 2015, 06:34 PM »
I tend to agree.  The only piece I have a bit of a problem with is Stan's buggy that is isolated by rubber tires from a solid earth ground.  I suppose there would still be electron flow, but I would think it to be considerably reduced from something that has a solid wire connected to a fixed ground rod.

eyeindanorth

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #7, on September 22nd, 2015, 10:45 PM »
If I may gentlemen,
my understanding of what Stan was doing was a combination of things. He was using voltage and frequencies to create the hydrogen. He was using ultrasonic resonances in the cell. Then he would pump the ionic hydrogen through the coils. Ionized gas carries a charge. Thus he cycled it till it reached its critical stage which I believe he would then dump this into his specialized plugs. Since his plugs were carrying gas also it acted like a plasma when discharged. He cycled the gas through a system that would not only charge the coils but would also run the engine. I think if Stan had the technology available to him that we do now would be a lot smaller. Sorry I digress. Stan also used lights on his cell. Why? He also talked about photon excitation if I remember right. What is light? I believe he was using a certain color of light for a certain FREQUENCY or FREQUENCIES. Think Cymatics! Ultrasound! I think he was using a combination of technologies. We know that when certain pulsed frequencies are used we get different results. What are diodes and and the SEC doing?  I could be wrong but with his curiosity and knowledge and what his brother told him about what he experienced in the Navy, Stan had inspiration. Remember we were in the oil crisis (LOL) and he knew the potential of this science. Stan did what all of us are doing. He realized to late though how deep the rabbit hole went in industry.
Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #8, on September 22nd, 2015, 11:19 PM »
ok so here is an interesting thought. I apologize I have not seen Stans Video in a while so this is all off of my head. I see your playing with an slayer ckt. What is that slayer ckt? Wireless also? So whats happening to all these different fields that are being created. We see in science they use a magnetic field to contain plasma's. What if Stan was playing with CFR by accident or knowingly. Look at his coil. It is round, not square or any other shape. why? Could it be he already understood the power of a torus coil. What if by making his coil the way he did he was not only creating a ionized gas. Then he pumped it though coil creating the high voltages necessary to work his plugs. While at the same time creating a torus field around the chamber thus creating a shielding or excitation to the chamber also. So you would have a continuous field or shield. Now while creating this field what if he tapped into the zero field so to speak by creating this plasma or resonance in his cell. Through my research I have found that this is what tesla as well as others were playing with already at turn of century. They knew about para hydrogen but industry has kept it quiet out of greed. I think this all ties into together and this is why he was silenced. If anyone in their garage could come up with a way to tap into the endless sea of energy around us as Tesla showed and Industry knew was possible, what would that do to their control and money flow. Ok so those are just some thoughts.
Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #9, on September 22nd, 2015, 11:28 PM »Last edited on September 22nd, 2015, 11:47 PM
oh and awesome job with this farrah & massive. I am eager to try this concept. I can see how he thought he was getting only hydrogen also. no need for any special materials and pretty solid chemical formula to prove more H2 then O2. Ok this just hit me. What were the materials used for the legs and why are we back to Stainless steel again? Why not carbon fibers? Jl Naudin anyone? Kanarev? Possibly a link to mallove also.

massive

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #10, on September 22nd, 2015, 11:36 PM »
on fundamental level were dealing with the most basic atom / molecule . theoretically a positive Hydrogen ion is a proton!!
thats not my statement but according to science , the knowits.
waters a self ionizing substance theoretically OH- and H3O+

as far as a car body goes , how about the ford model T ?   not only rubber tyres bot wooden spokes .
they sold without batteries , they ran on magneto which is #1 electrical source , they had a DC generator #2 electrical source and as an accessory item 6V battery , #3 electrical item .

the chassis and body is steel which is a conductor and by definition a conductory has free electrons 

if there is a finite amount of free electrons in the metal then there needs to be a circuit that restores the balance , 1 electron out one end = 1 electron in the other
its standard practice the body is used as a conductive path for head lights or anything . the battery earthed for that reason .
not only is there the electrical system but there is also accululation of static as a car is moving
its fair enough to call the car as a whole a conductive body....or a plate parallel to the ground which is insulated from the ground by a non conductor ,dare I say dielectric . but then again they contain "steel belts" and hot air
....which are also insulated

most cars have an aerial (or did have) . If a car is capable of picking up a radio signal Id say they can collect electrons . the whip aerial is a hollow conductor I assume its a 1/4 wave aerial .    ;0)  no room for a mast

eyeindanorth

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #11, on September 22nd, 2015, 11:54 PM »
Interesting thoughts. Tesla was able to transmit a signal to run a car. Supposedly the Nazis were playing with this also, Subs, Rockets. etc. Damn why stop their. why not anti gravity? Its all about the materials and manipulation of fields of energy am I wrong.

massive

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #12, on September 23rd, 2015, 12:11 AM »
Teslas submarine is on display in some museum , Idk where but it is in existance

the electron is fundamental to everything but then again frequency also but then again this is all according to physics .

my interest is ,an electron source isolated from the primary voltage source , the only option for that is = else where.

this circuit of stiffler and farrah day show an LED to earth , thats what stood out the most to me

Matt Watts

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #13, on September 23rd, 2015, 08:10 AM »
Quote from eyeindanorth on September 22nd, 2015, 11:54 PM
Interesting thoughts. Tesla was able to transmit a signal to run a car. Supposedly the Nazis were playing with this also, Subs, Rockets. etc. Damn why stop their. why not anti gravity?
They didn't stop there.  You have heard of Die Glocke I hope.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v9DH8rpB1E

massive

Re: Dr. Stiffler Hydrogen production via a diode
« Reply #14, on September 23rd, 2015, 01:07 PM »
Earth is a conductor and by definition it has free electrons .  car chassis and earth are both conductors by definition. 
earth ground is used as a parallel path for 3 phase neutral for any imbalance . used in telegraph , radio.

both earth ground and chassis earth symbols are used in circuit diagrams and also car manuals!

Earth is the largest cross sectional conductor we have


http://www.rapidtables.com/electric/Ground_Symbols.htm