Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over

gotoluc


Matt Watts

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #176, on May 5th, 2014, 07:05 PM »
Quote from gotoluc on May 5th, 2014, 06:19 PM
maybe we didn't...  it looks liked the reactive power is converted to DC then rebuilt to AC
I think so yes.  Go back and look at my previous post (updated)--I did some brainstorming.  Not sure if I'm on track or not and it may well be complicated to implement, but I have to think I'm on to something.


gotoluc

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #177, on May 5th, 2014, 09:02 PM »
Okay Matt, I'll look back

somehow I don't think this will be shared in public domain.

I had this thought come, I wonder if they just created a grid mirror circuit that at a precise time the circuit and grid rocks back and forth in that big transformer?

Luc
Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #178, on May 5th, 2014, 09:11 PM »
Quote from Matt Watts on May 5th, 2014, 05:15 PM
Did I just not look far enough?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjWwoD83Rk#


Jim demos his electronic unit, but states at the beginning that timing can also be controlled mechanically with what appears to be a QoMoGen device sitting on the other table.

Many years ago I knew an old guy that was always saying, "Timing is everything."  I suspect the old guy was right, but I have to wonder how we could swap between voltage and amperage at the correct intervals to utilize reactive power.  To me it seems like there should be a straightforward way to borrow voltage when the amperage is high to produce wattage, then again borrow amperage when the voltage is high to also produce wattage.  Maybe only one or the other is possible, but the idea all revolves around timing--you shift in what you need at times when you wouldn't normally have it and in doing so, you create power that can do useful work.  Conceptually, it just doesn't seem that difficult.  Think about this...

We can charge a capacitor very fast with high amperage, but at the time we have high amperage, we have low voltage.  So lets charge the caps in parallel when voltage is low and current is high, then cross connect the capacitors all in series to create fairly high current potential as well as increase the voltage potential.

How about the other side?  We can make a strong magnetic field in an inductor when the voltage is high and the amperage is low.  So here lets do the same as we did with the capacitors.  Lets "charge" them in parallel when voltage is high and amperage is low, then switch them from being in parallel to series to drive our load.

Now remember here, our source power is reactive--voltage and amperage are 90 degrees out of phase.  So at each quadrant of the AC power source, we have two angles to charge inductors and two other angles to charge capacitors.  And when these devices are not charging, they are discharging into our load.

Now I'm sure I don't have this 100% correct or any of the engineering details described, but is the concept sound?  Could this work?
Quote from Matt Watts on May 5th, 2014, 05:15 PM
Did I just not look far enough?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjWwoD83Rk#


Jim demos his electronic unit, but states at the beginning that timing can also be controlled mechanically with what appears to be a QoMoGen device sitting on the other table.

Many years ago I knew an old guy that was always saying, "Timing is everything."  I suspect the old guy was right, but I have to wonder how we could swap between voltage and amperage at the correct intervals to utilize reactive power.  To me it seems like there should be a straightforward way to borrow voltage when the amperage is high to produce wattage, then again borrow amperage when the voltage is high to also produce wattage.  Maybe only one or the other is possible, but the idea all revolves around timing--you shift in what you need at times when you wouldn't normally have it and in doing so, you create power that can do useful work.  Conceptually, it just doesn't seem that difficult.  Think about this...

We can charge a capacitor very fast with high amperage, but at the time we have high amperage, we have low voltage.  So lets charge the caps in parallel when voltage is low and current is high, then cross connect the capacitors all in series to create fairly high current potential as well as increase the voltage potential.

How about the other side?  We can make a strong magnetic field in an inductor when the voltage is high and the amperage is low.  So here lets do the same as we did with the capacitors.  Lets "charge" them in parallel when voltage is high and amperage is low, then switch them from being in parallel to series to drive our load.

Now remember here, our source power is reactive--voltage and amperage are 90 degrees out of phase.  So at each quadrant of the AC power source, we have two angles to charge inductors and two other angles to charge capacitors.  And when these devices are not charging, they are discharging into our load.

Now I'm sure I don't have this 100% correct or any of the engineering details described, but is the concept sound?  Could this work?
Sounds good Matt

Maybe your idea with mine?

That's a lot of switching!

Luc

Matt Watts

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #179, on May 5th, 2014, 09:51 PM »
Quote from gotoluc on May 5th, 2014, 09:02 PM
somehow I don't think this will be shared in public domain.

I had this thought come, I wonder if they just created a grid mirror circuit that at a precise time the circuit and grid rocks back and forth in that big transformer?
That could be.

Just got a message back from Aaron:
Quote from Aaron Murakami
I can't reveal any of their work, but I will tell you this is just the solid state version. There are ones that Jim built based on a AC motor/generator setup and with these kind of COP's, whether it is closed loop or not change the significance of what is going on here. Is there enough to close the loop? Absolutely - need at least COP 7-8 to start doing that easily.  Have I seen them close the loop? No, nor is it necessary.

When we show people serious overunity that they've never saw - then they want it to be closed looped before taking action? I think everyone is lucky they get anything at all from these men.

The QEG and other self running claims online are scams and have not been successfully replicated. Jim's methods actually have been replicated so for now, so as it stands, nobody else is showing anything like this that has been replicated by others.
I understand where Aaron is coming from, so I'll let that be.  I would like to see a looper, self-runner though, even if you have to close the loop with a motor/generator combination to separate the electrical from the mechanical aspects.  Whether enough information is shared at the conference for anyone to take the concepts and run with them...   Time will tell.

gotoluc

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #180, on May 6th, 2014, 06:15 AM »
Hi Matt,

I have never attended an energy conference and not about to change. Did you know the cost for the conference is $400 per person and attendance is limited to 150 people if they chose not to over sell? 150 x $400. = $60,000.
I would think that the price of the ticket alone should be a caution sign since over all the years of books, videos and conferences no one has been able to build a free energy device out of it.

I would hate to think they staged this just to sell tickets but speaking of precise timing, the conference is two months away and they have barely sold half the tickets!

Time will tell

Luc

Matt Watts

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #181, on May 6th, 2014, 06:40 AM »
Yes Luc, it's a risky gamble at best.  Whether one could come away with a workable idea all depends on the people there and whether or not you could spend time with someone to really pick their brain.

I do know that I bought Aaron's "Ignition Secrets" videos quite a while back and I was able to not only build a true plasma ignition system, but I improved on it beyond what Aaron demonstrated.  So slim as the chance might be, there exists a possibility to acquire a little piece of knowledge wherever you can find it.

I attended the GlobalBEM conference in Boulder last year and did get to meet quite a few people including Russ, firepinto, gpssonar, Rav, ZeroFossilFuel, Moray King, Sterling Allan, Ed Mitchell, bussi04 and quite a few others.  So in that respect, it was nice to know what people where thinking and trying to build.  Do I have a free energy device to show for all it?  No, but I do have people to bounce ideas off of that I really didn't before.

Gunther Rattay

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #182, on June 8th, 2014, 04:25 AM »Last edited on June 8th, 2014, 04:27 AM
Quote from Matt Watts on May 5th, 2014, 05:15 PM
Did I just not look far enough?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjWwoD83Rk#
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at 56:13 he says that the switching device controls the phase shift between voltage and current and that way transforms into power. so the switch seems to work as a phase shifter for current. there seem to be 6 switches in use.

Matt Watts

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #183, on June 8th, 2014, 08:39 AM »
Quote from bussi04 on June 8th, 2014, 04:25 AM
at 56:13 he says that the switching device controls the phase shift between voltage and current and that way transforms into power. so the switch seems to work as a phase shifter for current. there seem to be 6 switches in use.
Great detective work Bussi !  Somehow I glanced right over that.

So this confirms to me something I had suspected but haven't yet proven:  You can charge capacitors with reactive power and if done properly, not create a resistive load on the inductor.

I have a hand-written schematic sitting here on my desk that mimics Konehead's circuit.  It has four uni-directional switches and one bi-directional switch; that would make six in total.  Maybe I'm on to something...

Gunther Rattay

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #184, on June 8th, 2014, 10:32 AM »Last edited on June 8th, 2014, 10:35 AM
what we can derive from the video:

1. there is 1 control unit
2. there are 2 separate power supplies with (isolated) transformers
3. there is 1 big transformer with laminates in the background
4. there is a smaller transformer (right side) - maybe a high voltage transformer due to the shape
5. those capacitors are not wired in parallel but they have individual upper connectors to the switches
6. the lower channel of the scope has a thick cable and the probe at the transformer right seems to be special (current probe or hv?)
Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #185, on June 10th, 2014, 02:29 AM »
Quote from bussi04 on June 8th, 2014, 04:25 AM
at 56:13 he says that the switching device controls the phase shift between voltage and current and that way transforms into power. so the switch seems to work as a phase shifter for current. there seem to be 6 switches in use.
http://www.digikey.de/techxchange/message/6007 Fig. 3.181 shows a way to demagnetize a core by using a capacitor

IMO demagnetizing the core = suppressing back emf and using a capacitor means preserving the energy

here is the patent:

http://www.google.co.in/patents/US4441146

Matt Watts


Gunther Rattay


Lynx

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #188, on July 18th, 2014, 03:17 AM »
I'll just take this opportunity to attach the patent from http://www.google.com/patents/US20070146958 here, just in case there's any problems downloading it from it's original place.

Matt Watts

Re: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #189, on July 18th, 2014, 04:01 AM »
And if you have seen the full two hour video from these two gentlemen, it is very obvious what I'm trying to do with my project is very similar.  The SERPS technique combined with the Flyback Energy switching looks to me to be a very viable solution.  Given time to really work on it, I should know pretty soon what can be done.