Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over

geenee


Matt Watts

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #1, on October 3rd, 2013, 11:25 AM »
Think I said that already:
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1437

:D  :P

Jury is still out on whether there were some hidden wires.


geenee

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #2, on October 3rd, 2013, 11:59 AM »Last edited on October 3rd, 2013, 12:01 PM by geenee
Quote from Matt Watts on October 3rd, 2013, 11:25 AM
Think I said that already:
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1437

:D  :P

Jury is still out on whether there were some hidden wires.
i'm too slow.lol :P:D:idea:

it's not overunity but more output than input because it is a open system(not close system).heavy flywheel is the secret.flywheel create COP>1.  

thanks
geenee

Matt Watts

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #3, on October 3rd, 2013, 12:34 PM »Last edited on October 3rd, 2013, 12:36 PM by Matt Watts
If it is isn't a hoax and actually works, I'd like to know what that device with the big insulators is and how it improves or mandates the functionality.

And no, it is suppose to be a closed-loop self-contained system according to Valy.

Sterling indicated at one time it has to do with creating a phase imbalance between the motor and the generator.  I think he has found 29 such devices demonstrated and one would hope at least one them is for real.

curtr

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #4, on October 3rd, 2013, 04:46 PM »
Quote from Matt Watts on October 3rd, 2013, 12:34 PM
If it is isn't a hoax and actually works, I'd like to know what that device with the big insulators is and how it improves or mandates the functionality.

And no, it is suppose to be a closed-loop self-contained system according to Valy.

Sterling indicated at one time it has to do with creating a phase imbalance between the motor and the generator.  I think he has found 29 such devices demonstrated and one would hope at least one them is for real.
The part with the big insulators looks like a big capacitor. I have a couple from an MRA machine. That look the same , but only bigger. Hope that helps.

FaradayEZ

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #5, on October 4th, 2013, 05:29 PM »
Josef Newman also used those ceramic insulators on "big eureka"




geenee


Lynx

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #7, on October 9th, 2013, 04:29 AM »
I'm not impressed.

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  • Why doesn't he give us a 360 degree view around the whole thing?
  • What's the white box at top left?
  • What's that lying on the floor which elevates the bucket?
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cristian alba

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #8, on November 11th, 2013, 10:31 PM »Last edited on November 11th, 2013, 10:32 PM by cristian alba
At the risk of opening another polemic, I will leave a link to the latest model of Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qa3MmdqdQ0
Regards:    cristian alba

Matt Watts

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #9, on November 11th, 2013, 11:58 PM »Last edited on November 12th, 2013, 12:10 AM by Matt Watts
Quote from cristian alba on November 11th, 2013, 10:31 PM
At the risk of opening another polemic, I will leave a link to the latest model of Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qa3MmdqdQ0
Regards:    cristian alba
It's out there now Cristian:
http://pesn.com/2013/11/10/9602392_ValyEnergiStar-posts-another-QMoGen-demo-video/

I asked Sterling to resume his dialog with Valy and see if we can get Valy to sell us a license and support subscription including build plans.  If Valy agrees, my intent is to build one for Sterling that he can demonstrate to anyone interested and maybe even power his house with.  Lets hope good things come from this...

geenee

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #10, on November 12th, 2013, 12:34 AM »Last edited on November 12th, 2013, 12:35 AM by geenee
Quote from Matt Watts on November 11th, 2013, 11:58 PM
Quote from cristian alba on November 11th, 2013, 10:31 PM
At the risk of opening another polemic, I will leave a link to the latest model of Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qa3MmdqdQ0
Regards:    cristian alba
It's out there now Cristian:
http://pesn.com/2013/11/10/9602392_ValyEnergiStar-posts-another-QMoGen-demo-video/

I asked Sterling to resume his dialog with Valy and see if we can get Valy to sell us a license and support subscription including build plans.  If Valy agrees, my intent is to build one for Sterling that he can demonstrate to anyone interested and maybe even power his house with.  Lets hope good things come from this...
hope this things will be owned by us.free energy breakthough!!!

great work Matt Watts.
RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #11, on November 17th, 2013, 04:45 PM »Last edited on November 17th, 2013, 04:48 PM by geenee
http://www.overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/#.UolhTPxutzQ

gotoluc from overunity.com,he shared great information about reactive power.maybe a secret of motor generator self loop.by adding capacitor in series with motor then we can reduce power(watts) to lower than old one with same rpm of motor.after that you have power left over.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Guc8TADLteM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGuc8TADLteM

Jeff Nading

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #12, on November 17th, 2013, 06:50 PM »
Nice videos guys,worth looking into. What do you think Matt.:D

Matt Watts

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #13, on November 18th, 2013, 01:37 AM »Last edited on November 18th, 2013, 05:12 AM by Matt Watts
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 17th, 2013, 06:50 PM
Nice videos guys,worth looking into. What do you think Matt.:D
Great fined geenee!

Very nice.  This explains more in 30 minutes than I have managed to acquire from the Internet in ten years.



So we know a generator sees no load when powering a reactive device.

And we now know that with the proper assortment of transformers and capacitors we can make an induction motor appear as a purely reactive device.

So at the very least, it should be possible to power a motor from a generator without the typical losses involved.

Then the final step is obviously to determine if there is more energy available in this system than unity.  At unity, you would have a perpetual motion machine, but there are heat and other frictional losses.  So if those can be overcome, then the answer is yes, this system can draw energy from the environment and do useful work with that energy.

Lastly, if you wish to delve into where that energy comes from, I highly recommend you read and understand Eric Dollard's Four Quadrant Theory.

Here's the motor side circuit:
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Full circuit:
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The overunity thread is quite interesting, but I have an idea that might make this experiment progress much faster.  Instead of connecting the generator to the motor, leave these two devices unconnected mechanically until the last step.  Connect the generator to some other motor/engine and don't worry about the power draw on that motor/engine.  All we want is the generator to turn at the proper speed and output the correct frequency.  Now we can focus on driving the test motor as efficiently as possible using capacitors and transformers electrically connected between the two.  When perfectly tuned, the test motor will be drawing purely reactive power from the generator, i.e. 90 degrees out of phase.  Once that much is functional, then we put a frictional load on the test motor and observe the response.  If tuned correctly, the electrical load on the generator will remain unchanged.  At this point, we can replace the drive motor with the test motor and see if this system will loop.

FaradayEZ

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #14, on November 18th, 2013, 05:22 AM »
Some one should download this video from youtube...


Matt Watts

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #15, on November 18th, 2013, 05:38 AM »
Quote from FaradayEZ on November 18th, 2013, 05:22 AM
Some one should download this video from youtube...
I have my copy.

geenee

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #16, on November 18th, 2013, 07:39 AM »
you can use www.keepvid.com to download videos.

Great thought,Watts.

thanks
geenee

Jeff Nading

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #17, on November 18th, 2013, 02:48 PM »Last edited on November 18th, 2013, 02:50 PM by Jeff Nading
Well guys the video is gone, I was going to get a copy but can't find the video. After I posted this the video is back, that was weird.

Mogir Jason Rofick

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #18, on November 18th, 2013, 07:34 PM »
That video at http://www.overunity.com/14013/reactive-...olhTPxutzQ is a wonderful gift! I hope everyone understands the unimaginable value of the information presented. I am inspired. I hope you are too.

We all need understanding, so, I thought it might be a good thing to paste a couple of links that will help all interested parties begin to gather the required knowledge to understand the information presented in that video, the math involved and magnitude of value in the information.

First: What is Reactive power? READ THIS CAREFULY! EVERY WORD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volt-ampere_reactive

I like that it specifically says: “in many applications it is common for there to be a reactive component to the system, that is, the system possesses capacitance, inductance, or both.” This is contrasted with alternating current that is fully in phase with the voltage.

So, regarding capacitance that will cause a voltage phase shift it will be important to understand capacitors. What is a Farad?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farad

I don’t know about anybody else but I’d love to devise a way to take reactive power from the grid at no cost, power my home, then feed real power back into the grid to spin my electric meter backwards.

It now seems very plausible to me.

Jeff Nading

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #19, on November 18th, 2013, 08:02 PM »Last edited on November 18th, 2013, 08:04 PM by Jeff Nading
Thanks for all the links and help in this Mogir, I find it most interesting myself. I would just like to be off grid completely. I now have the video and will be researching this and have a few micro wave ovens laying around that I had planned on junking out anyway, so this will be a perfect opportunity to do so. :D:P
Quote from geenee on November 18th, 2013, 07:39 AM
you can use www.keepvid.com to download videos.

Great thought,Watts.

thanks
geenee
Thanks geenee, this is great, I used it to download the video. :P:P

Mogir Jason Rofick

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #20, on November 19th, 2013, 07:03 AM »
I noticed that Luc Choquette posted on his YouTube channel comments (8 hours ago from the time of this post) that: he was offered to work on developing this tech, so he "won't be posting anything for a while."

Funny how money always seems to win out over the interest of full disclosure for the benefit of all.

But in my opinion this tech is important.
At least I hope we got a good enough taste to keep pressing forward in an open source manner on this technology.

I know I'll keep posting whatever things I come to understand.

Matt Watts

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #21, on November 19th, 2013, 08:33 AM »Last edited on November 19th, 2013, 09:20 AM by Matt Watts
Quote from Mogir Jason Rofick on November 19th, 2013, 07:03 AM
I noticed that Luc Choquette posted on his YouTube channel comments (8 hours ago from the time of this post) that: he was offered to work on developing this tech, so he "won't be posting anything for a while."

Funny how money always seems to win out over the interest of full disclosure for the benefit of all.

But in my opinion this tech is important.
At least I hope we got a good enough taste to keep pressing forward in an open source manner on this technology.

I know I'll keep posting whatever things I come to understand.
Guess Luc has shared all he his going to.  The ball is now in our court to make something for ourselves.  Let's see if one of us can hit on the magic combination of easily accessible components that leads to a successfully working unit.  Lets do it and replicate.

Maybe we can use a motor that is already sitting on our shelf and convert it to a generator.  I good way to save some money.
http://www.qsl.net/ns8o/Induction_Generator.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRnhFvu9PXo


Something Luc doesn't venture into is using three phase power, but I suspect this might even work better.  If anyone has a source for some small, cheap three phase motors, please post.  I know a neighbor guy that has a large three phase powered CNC mill in his garage and uses a rotary converter box that accepts single phase house power and converts it to three phase power for his mill.  I would be willing to bet, modification to one of these devices would be fairly straightforward to attempt solving this mystery.  You might notice, these devices already contain capacitors for phase angle adjustment:

freethisone

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #22, on November 19th, 2013, 10:13 AM »Last edited on November 19th, 2013, 12:52 PM by Matt Watts
this moter gen is very close to what i can see by a few simple symbols.

i had placed the eye on the black board Sunday during foot ball, 24 gen motors connived in an hours time, and a half. i even had a 6 year old draw these on paper.
drawing, and understanding the process it a key.

that key is just the beginning. but i dare ask for donation on a complete theory box set.

including all of what was learned and the questions that remain?:angel:


Mogir Jason Rofick

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #23, on November 19th, 2013, 07:12 PM »Last edited on November 19th, 2013, 07:15 PM by Mogir Jason Rofick
More required reading to to help understand this technology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_%28electrical%29#Capacitor

Note: the hole page is well worth the read.

Funny, I have always been more of a mechanically visual person, but never really, REALLY had taken a keen interested in the math surrounding electronics.:s But, looking into this 90 degree out of phase “technology” more now for myself, and with a desire to help others as well, I am amazed, because, I am discovering that this technology is no secret!  It's a common technology that has been utilized for years! Just not developed and/or implemented to fully take advantage of the potential. For example, now I understand that capacitors role in keeping my lights from dimming when my well pump comes on.

Now I know the math is even easy to find on the internet, as proven above. And, it even specifically includes mathematical situations for 90 degree phase shifts with voltage lag or voltage lead!

So then, we definitely have the math available to us, its been in our faces for some time now. AND now we are clued in on what we need to do to get the desired goal.

I'm pretty good at making spreadsheets, I use LibreOffice (open source of course. :rolleyes: ).

Maybe, with a little time, I can whip up a distributable spreadsheet with the necessary calculations. (can't be all that hard.:huh: )

Then all we'll need is a specific project with a start point and an end point or goal. Then, hopefully it will just be a matter of punching in values to figure out what ratings of components would be suitable for a particular voltage, frequency, load, etc.

To me, a good start point would be the electric company lines to my home. (standard U.S. electrical output, 120 volts @ 60Hz)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency

The goal... to infinity and beyond!:cool:

geenee

RE: Motor-Generator Self-Looped with Usable Energy Left Over
« Reply #24, on December 4th, 2013, 12:59 PM »Last edited on December 4th, 2013, 01:00 PM by geenee
/watch?v=byJ0Qo10g3o

download it.
thanks
geenee