Hi Electro and other my skype is daniel.donatelli ,
Can you post pics video of you items here in this thread I can not find them on
Yes their are thousand of companies making lab tubing multibore items,
but not many can do the new stan style die moulds or want to,
ptfe can be made from a supplier I have at present in flexible material which is what I believe stans was made of ,
the technical drawing is what I need to develop order with them
so we can exactly replicate stans tubing, I am taking about the white tubing pictured and the ting 5 - inner extuded tube style pics here,
any help putting together the technical drawing with inner hole size and lay out will advance this to become production item, it has to be a high quality technical drawing for them to do it.
Perhaps we can work together to source the original tubing even just to precise get measure all in and out dimensions and gripping terminal on the end etc
the company is prepared make die mould and prove product if I can do exact tech drawings, I don't want to post name of company until it is being made as it is hard to get companies interested, and do not want to flood them with multiple request all we need is drawing and they will do it now.
I suggest posting tech drawngs here for every one now
It is a very lucking find as I think they may have made stan's original tubes
totally flexible and micro bore multi-bore
hope we can get a precise tech drawing from stans original
I think you are jumping the gun a little bit.
As I understand it, quenching tube is rather expensive because of min orders.It's not that it can't be made...it can...HOWEVER,....the only purpose of the quenching tube is to prevent flashback.....I have been able to make the quenching tube, but instead of making it in plastic, what I have done is use Alunina rods with 4 10 thou holes in them. This allows me to vary the flow rate to whatever I want simply by adding or subtracting the number of tubes I use to make it...for eg...I can have a 1/2 inch pvc pipe with 10 alumina rods in it ...this will give a quenching tube with 40 holes...easy to make and the rods are available for about $7 bucks each or so.The rods are about a 6 inches long...you can get longer but don't need to...tubes can be cut to whatever size.....
This way we can work out the exact requirements of the tube before we pay thousands to get it made....
I have been working on this for a while now and as you know I can already make the discs which I plan on using in my manifold for my 4 hp motor.
you can get the tubes from the net..I can give you a source if you want, but I prefer to keep them confidential from the general public because of the idiot factor.
I use casting investment to seal the alumina rods in the pvc pipe, but a more practical material would be silicone.
With your request about the technical drawings...should you still like to get them made....I can't imagine it would be too hard to get someone to draw something up on their computer..but I'm a total cluster%^&% when it comes to stuff like that....old school
Anyway, I'll keep you guys posted through my video's. Just so happens that's the part I'm up to now in my build,but I'm going to use discs ,not the tube...
The Tube is a important part as I believe we can use 90% off the shelf parts now
like injectors and flash ecu etc. PLease see my INjectors pages and Aircraft engine pages - www.securesupplies.biz
Stans Intention for the tube was not as a individual point stop gap for bang (flash areestor) only,
like a disks or flash back arrestors are , as you rightly pointed out , we have these. And thank to your fine work I might add!! nice.
Stan made the tube to comply with road saftey reg so they couldnt stop the car from being licensed or used
as there is no possibility of a fire bang or explosion any where in the lines as the quench tube is here instead and new and funky pc of tech for hydrogen!!.
For example if a line melts or is crimped or cut in a accident.
The quenching tube over comes that object totally and is very important for that reason.
we can get all the fitting and other parts to plumb it to injectors even righ now
if they are more standard fuel type injectors /suited or adapted for hydrogen.
and use the quench lines. we can do that now. if we have the quench lines
The cost of mould etc I have it covered
but I want to make a exact replication of stand lines, so it is one more tick box done.
I acknowledge your fine work on it , it is impressive, what you have done.
BUt for the reason above, I want to push quenching tube to completion.
It raises the bar up for the next generations of builders to go ahead and not wait for us or copy our mstakes but use new parts to achieve the same end results.
the fundemental knowledge is what is key here.
up take and understand how to over come the objections and adapt every engine in the world right now with many part variations etc !!.
I can tackle the cost on that piece, through to production
but will need the exact measure up of the lines , so if some one can get it it will be remade from the original quenching tube
it would be wonderful it give other confidence and knowledge on drawing spec and that it has and can be done! EASY
A simple thing, but something that could stop a hydrogen car/bike/boat / from being licensed. So vital
we acknowledge it and complete it .
In oz we have adr rules, Australian car design rules
once I presented a police man with the adr rules (yes I had a full copy in the car) when he
questioned on some modifications I did once.
His jaw dropped. he had never seen what the yellow folders look like and how big they were,
needless to say he backed off as his line about "not compliant " an he was called in on it
and he failed to go into it as he knew I had read it and he could not understand it ! so car slipped by him just fine.
Also See Wikispeed for similar thinkinghttp://www.wikispeed.com/
So if we are confident on it and complete it in this very important area
others will go like hell fire to install it as it is strengthen the argument for saftey alot once done!!!!
as we have no tank! so safe! HOD hydrogen on demand though quenched tube to meter feed directly into cylinders =safe 100%.
The Mini PEM Cells making 98.5% pure hydrogen are selling well and replacing the hho types.
it is only a matter of time until more people realize they can flash their ecu and modify their existing injector rails and variants there of.
see flashing ecu on my website.
My feeling than is it drops back to the quenching tube needs!! and yes extra measures like flash arestors and disks.
I invite stan fanatics to
put the exact dimentions of quenching tube from his original tube in a google scetch up an email me.
Hope you can see my thinking firstname.lastname@example.org