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Title: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on August 23rd, 2012, 06:15 AM
Hello world

With this treath we can figure out how the Keshe generator should be made as an energy source. All useful information can be collected here for creating a 3D model or an open source prototype in the future.

Geert



I took a large portion of the patents to create a 3D model or later, an open source model.
What the noble gases concerns, I have found the following:


Gases used in the cores of the reactor-->

[0537] Choice of fuel for the proto type reactor is not very difficult.
To chose gases one has to consider most of properties of the gases under varying pressures and temperatures and magnetic filed forces. As these gases will have different and varying characteristics due to conditions and parameters within both cores of the reactor.
[0538] For the operational condition all gases are considered to be under a vacuum, and centrifuge, rotation, compressive condition, in environment in possession of one or more magnetic fields and variable temperatures.

Hydrogen

[0539] This gas will take the central position of the gases in the hart of the core, this being due to its lowest atomic weight within a vacuum chamber.
[0540] This is the favourable gas for ionisation and heating of the plasma. This element can not create radiation above the extreme ultraviolet (EUV), therefore by low that the hydrogen can release more energy then it has absorbed and by going through energy lose, that hydrogen can not release energy higher then EUV which has received from the scintillated helium.
Therefore there are no possibilities of radiation releasing higher then lower level energy EUV; therefore there is no possibility of radioactive contamination of the Caroline core.
[0541] Hydrogen gas is used for production of the plasma in the center of the core, through ionisation and in conjunction with use of argon gas as catalyst for rapids heating.
Where these ionised particle will give their energy up to the argon gas for the plasma to be heated, before return to their ground state level and trough vacuum and centrifuge back to the center of the chamber. The helium through the central column delivers where they can repeat the same with the next wave of the EUV rays.

Helium

[0542] This gas is used for verities of reasons in this reactor.
[0543] Helium liquid enters the Caroline core of the reactor through central column through separate borehole, after scintillation process, as deliver of the extreme ultraviolet source in to hydrogen gas level of this core.
[0544] Helium gas is used as part of the Caroline core as catalyst for heating up of the core, as it can absorb the right energy from some of the ionised hydrogen.
[0545] The helium can be continually be pumped with right delay factor through the borehole at its gas layer in the caroline core, that it leaves the core and returns back as the scintillators and blackout of the chamber to repeat the cycle.
[0546] Helium has cooling capability. Which this happens at pressures around 300 pisg. So when creating compression this factor becomes important. This could be used to the advantage for some systems operation mode.
[0547] As this gas is chemically and biologically inert. It is non-combustible and non-radioactive as energies at about 27 eV will never enter the core to cause the ionisation of this matter.
[0548] He in some operations could be used as coolant too.

Neon

[0549] This is the cooling gas for the reactor chambers.
[0550] Liquid Neon can be used as the scintillation material instead of liquid helium.
[0551] This is the best gas to chose, as there is little or no chance of neutron leakage from both cores.
This gas is used as insulator where the heat in the plasma needs to be maintained at high temperatures.
[0552] Where the body of the inner core has to be cooler then the outer chamber temperature, this gas is good for the outer or the last gas before the outer wall of the outer core of the reactor, where the temperature of this wall has to be at body temperature, like in cases where the reactor is used in the medical environment.
[0553] Using neon as cooling gas this encourages convection within the material immediately below it.
[0554] This gas has cooling capability of forty times better than He does. This is the cooling gas to be used in these types of systems.

Argon

[0555] The choices of using argon gas for this type of reactor are several folds.
[0556] Under pressure or vacuum argon could be a good insulator.
[0557] Argon gas is the perfect catalyst for extracting the energy from the ionised H and He in different mode of operation. Which this released energy is used to heat the plasma within the core.
[0558] Argon acts as a good electron collector, where by placing of copper electrodes on the wall of the central column at this gas layer in the caroline core, these charges could be picked up from the Argon gas layer of the core, for the reactor to be used as the electric current source of supply.
[0559] Argon can act as source of EUV/UV emitter catalyst during the operation of the core as it is polarised during the rotation and turbulence of the plasma at right temperatures and pressures in the Caroline core
[0560] The recombination of hydrogen and helium in the chamber during the compression and expansion of ionisation of gases, when the Argon gas is under pressure and it is closely packed in its layer, by pressures created by the outer core magnetic field, this increases the conductivity properties of this gas, this further enhanced by the magnetic pressures of the inner core due to turbulences.
[0561] Thus the circulation and the high conductivity of this gas in a magnetic filed and electrons field, which this gas operates in, this, creates further current flow within this layer of the cores material.
[0562] This is similar to rotation of cooper wire of a rotor cutting through the magnetic lines in a generator that creates the flow of electric current. Where the rotating copper wires is replaced by the rotation of highly conductive Argon gas saturated by charged particles of ionised hydrogen and electrons arriving constantly from the center of the core internally outwards.
[0563] Where the quantity of the electric power produces becomes a function of the speed of the rotation of argon gas. Then this can hold vice versa for the creation of the magnetic filed force too.
[0564] Then the potency and importance of the choice of this gas layer will become apparent.

[0565] An important factor that this gas will have in this reactor will be due to its ability to receive energy from electrons and ionised hydrogen gas, as they return to their ground state, or before they are absorbed by the copper pickup for the current out put of the reactor.
[0566] What is significant with positioning of this gas, is that due to positioning of neon gas in the core, which behaves as insulation in this layer of the caroline core, the neon gas being under pressure due to operation of the reactor and due to its volume ration in the core will become a heat barrier for the separating the heat generated in the hydrogen side away from the argon side of this gas layer causing the plasma to heat up.
[0567] Neon plays the same roll in reveres and keeps the heat created in the argon layer away from the plasma in the center of the core too, up to a large extent.
[0568] Therefore majority of the heat delivered to the argon layer will go up towards the inner core boundary, for it to be transferred to the outer core for its materials to be heated up, helping with input of heat in that core necessary for the convection of the matter needed for creation of current and magnetic field in the outer core.
[0569] Therefore the thickness of the neon layer as its volume ratio of the core will have direct effect on the performance of the core operation and the outcome of the power and gravity produced by the system as a whole.

Krypton

[0570] This gas is primarily used in the Caroline core.
[0571] Krypton has a good insulating properties. Especially when it is used in vacuum in conjunction with magnetic and molecular forces.
[0572] Krypton in the reactors are used where there is a weak possibility of low energy neutrons and gamma rays. This is a better choice of gas than xenon.
[0573] Krypton has to be at lest the last gas in any reactor, as argon can never under any circumstances come in touch directly with body of the inner core. This being due to the fact that argon is the current carrier in the core.

Xenon

[0574] This is good as the last layer gas in the inner chamber.
[0575] Xenon by having a large absorption cross section is the best inert gas for the absorption of any neutron loose in the reactor core.
[0576] This gas layer has to be monitored at all time for it's poisoning neutron effect, that hot spot of the material of the inner core due to this effect does not become a possibility.
[0577] Xenon exhibits a highly non-liner behaviour of density against pressure. That is why it is better to have a layer of Krypton a head of this gas in the Caroline core.

Radon

[0578] This is one of the most important inert gases for this type of reactor operation.
[0579] This gas will carry the element of scintillation of the helium gas, at this stage of patent this gas will not be used as part of the core.


I understood that many components and ways of working are important. Here are some that I collected to broadly understand how the device would look like.

•   A spherical self-rotating reactor core spins inside a set(s) of coils. On the reactor-body additional magnets can be mounted.
•   The magnetic force field has to be created and maintained from the inner part to radiate out and thus allowing creation of the second magnetic field force inwards, to contain the plasma within the center of the core.
•   The method which is claimed in this patent application is such that - under centrifugal and vacuum conditions - a turbulence, rotation, compressive and heating of a gaseous matter is created in a reactor by at least one central rotative magnetic field with the purpose of creating plasmatic conditions leading to various physical phenomena.
•   Scintillation is the ignition key for start of creation of any system.
•   From past research it is understood that gases in a vacuum and centrifuged encapsulate each other according to their atomic weight, from the lighter gases in the center of the cluster and the heaviest on the outer layers.
•   This means that neon will encapsulate helium and heavier gas will encapsulate the neon and so on.
•   The second important principal for inert gas laws is that they do not mix with each other in a vacume and centrifuges condition.
•   Either is completely immobile (fixed)(Fig. 9) but which has on it's surface at least one set of electro-magnets (90) and/or coils which can be activated (92A) or deactivated (92D) - possible wise controlled by electronic means (i.e. a microchip 93) - in a preferred periodical and/or positional way, which - preferable - can change polarity and/or strength (92A, 92B, 92C), that way able to create turbulence in the center core, and/or in other superior cores.
•   The central column possible wise can have at least one electrode (17B) - but very preferable several - to collect electric current for transportation (17C) to the outside of the reactor. This way the currents can be collected for several purposes.
•   After the initial mechanical rotation (i.e. at 3,000 rpm) and/or electromagnetic triggered rotation the internal rotation (50) will be continued due the interaction of the magnetic fields involved (self-sustained process), in correspondence with one of more core-layers and their containment.
•    The reactor body contains at least two separate hollow spaces of identical or different dimensions,
•   The reactor body may contains at least two separate material cores (i.e. by a wall-layer 14A), a larger encircling a smaller, and each may have a proper internal independent process, and magnetic interactions may occur between their magnetic fields, and matters may be exchanged between physically separated chambers (28C and 28D) by connection means (58).
•   Of course an very important application and method is related to the generation of electrical power, using one or more materials in the cavities, by the use of collection of the appropriate charge particles from the right electrodes specially positioned in the He (83) and Ar (82) layers or on the appropriate material layer.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on August 23rd, 2012, 06:58 AM
Quote from geert8550 on August 23rd, 2012, 06:15 AM
Hello world

With this treath we can figure out how the Keshe generator should be made as an energy source. All useful information can be collected here for creating a 3D model or an open source prototype in the future.

Geert



I took a large portion of the patents to create a 3D model or later, an open source model.
What the noble gases concerns, I have found the following:


Gases used in the cores of the reactor-->

[0537] Choice of fuel for the proto type reactor is not very difficult.
To chose gases one has to consider most of properties of the gases under varying pressures and temperatures and magnetic filed forces. As these gases will have different and varying characteristics due to conditions and parameters within both cores of the reactor.
[0538] For the operational condition all gases are considered to be under a vacuum, and centrifuge, rotation, compressive condition, in environment in possession of one or more magnetic fields and variable temperatures.

Hydrogen

[0539] This gas will take the central position of the gases in the hart of the core, this being due to its lowest atomic weight within a vacuum chamber.
[0540] This is the favourable gas for ionisation and heating of the plasma. This element can not create radiation above the extreme ultraviolet (EUV), therefore by low that the hydrogen can release more energy then it has absorbed and by going through energy lose, that hydrogen can not release energy higher then EUV which has received from the scintillated helium.
Therefore there are no possibilities of radiation releasing higher then lower level energy EUV; therefore there is no possibility of radioactive contamination of the Caroline core.
[0541] Hydrogen gas is used for production of the plasma in the center of the core, through ionisation and in conjunction with use of argon gas as catalyst for rapids heating.
Where these ionised particle will give their energy up to the argon gas for the plasma to be heated, before return to their ground state level and trough vacuum and centrifuge back to the center of the chamber. The helium through the central column delivers where they can repeat the same with the next wave of the EUV rays.

Helium

[0542] This gas is used for verities of reasons in this reactor.
[0543] Helium liquid enters the Caroline core of the reactor through central column through separate borehole, after scintillation process, as deliver of the extreme ultraviolet source in to hydrogen gas level of this core.
[0544] Helium gas is used as part of the Caroline core as catalyst for heating up of the core, as it can absorb the right energy from some of the ionised hydrogen.
[0545] The helium can be continually be pumped with right delay factor through the borehole at its gas layer in the caroline core, that it leaves the core and returns back as the scintillators and blackout of the chamber to repeat the cycle.
[0546] Helium has cooling capability. Which this happens at pressures around 300 pisg. So when creating compression this factor becomes important. This could be used to the advantage for some systems operation mode.
[0547] As this gas is chemically and biologically inert. It is non-combustible and non-radioactive as energies at about 27 eV will never enter the core to cause the ionisation of this matter.
[0548] He in some operations could be used as coolant too.

Neon

[0549] This is the cooling gas for the reactor chambers.
[0550] Liquid Neon can be used as the scintillation material instead of liquid helium.
[0551] This is the best gas to chose, as there is little or no chance of neutron leakage from both cores.
This gas is used as insulator where the heat in the plasma needs to be maintained at high temperatures.
[0552] Where the body of the inner core has to be cooler then the outer chamber temperature, this gas is good for the outer or the last gas before the outer wall of the outer core of the reactor, where the temperature of this wall has to be at body temperature, like in cases where the reactor is used in the medical environment.
[0553] Using neon as cooling gas this encourages convection within the material immediately below it.
[0554] This gas has cooling capability of forty times better than He does. This is the cooling gas to be used in these types of systems.

Argon

[0555] The choices of using argon gas for this type of reactor are several folds.
[0556] Under pressure or vacuum argon could be a good insulator.
[0557] Argon gas is the perfect catalyst for extracting the energy from the ionised H and He in different mode of operation. Which this released energy is used to heat the plasma within the core.
[0558] Argon acts as a good electron collector, where by placing of copper electrodes on the wall of the central column at this gas layer in the caroline core, these charges could be picked up from the Argon gas layer of the core, for the reactor to be used as the electric current source of supply.
[0559] Argon can act as source of EUV/UV emitter catalyst during the operation of the core as it is polarised during the rotation and turbulence of the plasma at right temperatures and pressures in the Caroline core
[0560] The recombination of hydrogen and helium in the chamber during the compression and expansion of ionisation of gases, when the Argon gas is under pressure and it is closely packed in its layer, by pressures created by the outer core magnetic field, this increases the conductivity properties of this gas, this further enhanced by the magnetic pressures of the inner core due to turbulences.
[0561] Thus the circulation and the high conductivity of this gas in a magnetic filed and electrons field, which this gas operates in, this, creates further current flow within this layer of the cores material.
[0562] This is similar to rotation of cooper wire of a rotor cutting through the magnetic lines in a generator that creates the flow of electric current. Where the rotating copper wires is replaced by the rotation of highly conductive Argon gas saturated by charged particles of ionised hydrogen and electrons arriving constantly from the center of the core internally outwards.
[0563] Where the quantity of the electric power produces becomes a function of the speed of the rotation of argon gas. Then this can hold vice versa for the creation of the magnetic filed force too.
[0564] Then the potency and importance of the choice of this gas layer will become apparent.

[0565] An important factor that this gas will have in this reactor will be due to its ability to receive energy from electrons and ionised hydrogen gas, as they return to their ground state, or before they are absorbed by the copper pickup for the current out put of the reactor.
[0566] What is significant with positioning of this gas, is that due to positioning of neon gas in the core, which behaves as insulation in this layer of the caroline core, the neon gas being under pressure due to operation of the reactor and due to its volume ration in the core will become a heat barrier for the separating the heat generated in the hydrogen side away from the argon side of this gas layer causing the plasma to heat up.
[0567] Neon plays the same roll in reveres and keeps the heat created in the argon layer away from the plasma in the center of the core too, up to a large extent.
[0568] Therefore majority of the heat delivered to the argon layer will go up towards the inner core boundary, for it to be transferred to the outer core for its materials to be heated up, helping with input of heat in that core necessary for the convection of the matter needed for creation of current and magnetic field in the outer core.
[0569] Therefore the thickness of the neon layer as its volume ratio of the core will have direct effect on the performance of the core operation and the outcome of the power and gravity produced by the system as a whole.

Krypton

[0570] This gas is primarily used in the Caroline core.
[0571] Krypton has a good insulating properties. Especially when it is used in vacuum in conjunction with magnetic and molecular forces.
[0572] Krypton in the reactors are used where there is a weak possibility of low energy neutrons and gamma rays. This is a better choice of gas than xenon.
[0573] Krypton has to be at lest the last gas in any reactor, as argon can never under any circumstances come in touch directly with body of the inner core. This being due to the fact that argon is the current carrier in the core.

Xenon

[0574] This is good as the last layer gas in the inner chamber.
[0575] Xenon by having a large absorption cross section is the best inert gas for the absorption of any neutron loose in the reactor core.
[0576] This gas layer has to be monitored at all time for it's poisoning neutron effect, that hot spot of the material of the inner core due to this effect does not become a possibility.
[0577] Xenon exhibits a highly non-liner behaviour of density against pressure. That is why it is better to have a layer of Krypton a head of this gas in the Caroline core.

Radon

[0578] This is one of the most important inert gases for this type of reactor operation.
[0579] This gas will carry the element of scintillation of the helium gas, at this stage of patent this gas will not be used as part of the core.


I understood that many components and ways of working are important. Here are some that I collected to broadly understand how the device would look like.

•   A spherical self-rotating reactor core spins inside a set(s) of coils. On the reactor-body additional magnets can be mounted.
•   The magnetic force field has to be created and maintained from the inner part to radiate out and thus allowing creation of the second magnetic field force inwards, to contain the plasma within the center of the core.
•   The method which is claimed in this patent application is such that - under centrifugal and vacuum conditions - a turbulence, rotation, compressive and heating of a gaseous matter is created in a reactor by at least one central rotative magnetic field with the purpose of creating plasmatic conditions leading to various physical phenomena.
•   Scintillation is the ignition key for start of creation of any system.
•   From past research it is understood that gases in a vacuum and centrifuged encapsulate each other according to their atomic weight, from the lighter gases in the center of the cluster and the heaviest on the outer layers.
•   This means that neon will encapsulate helium and heavier gas will encapsulate the neon and so on.
•   The second important principal for inert gas laws is that they do not mix with each other in a vacume and centrifuges condition.
•   Either is completely immobile (fixed)(Fig. 9) but which has on it's surface at least one set of electro-magnets (90) and/or coils which can be activated (92A) or deactivated (92D) - possible wise controlled by electronic means (i.e. a microchip 93) - in a preferred periodical and/or positional way, which - preferable - can change polarity and/or strength (92A, 92B, 92C), that way able to create turbulence in the center core, and/or in other superior cores.
•   The central column possible wise can have at least one electrode (17B) - but very preferable several - to collect electric current for transportation (17C) to the outside of the reactor. This way the currents can be collected for several purposes.
•   After the initial mechanical rotation (i.e. at 3,000 rpm) and/or electromagnetic triggered rotation the internal rotation (50) will be continued due the interaction of the magnetic fields involved (self-sustained process), in correspondence with one of more core-layers and their containment.
•    The reactor body contains at least two separate hollow spaces of identical or different dimensions,
•   The reactor body may contains at least two separate material cores (i.e. by a wall-layer 14A), a larger encircling a smaller, and each may have a proper internal independent process, and magnetic interactions may occur between their magnetic fields, and matters may be exchanged between physically separated chambers (28C and 28D) by connection means (58).
•   Of course an very important application and method is related to the generation of electrical power, using one or more materials in the cavities, by the use of collection of the appropriate charge particles from the right electrodes specially positioned in the He (83) and Ar (82) layers or on the appropriate material layer.
Thanks Geert , this has possibilities.:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Hydron on August 23rd, 2012, 03:43 PM
Nice post! Parts of it remind me of Meyer's EPG. Very interesting, thank you!
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D
The purpose of this model is to clarify to people how the principle of the device would be.
The inner core spins around at high speed in order to obtain a centrifugal effect. I would think this process generates itself as a planet spins on its own. The first models (copper model) had a viewing window on the outside to see the scintilation. I therefore believe that the inner core is transparent and contains no metal so as not to influence the magnetic force.
The scintillation occurs between the housing and the inner core which is radon gas. For example, anti-gravity, scintilation MUST take place to achieve the desired process. By scintillation light is created as in the sun.
I already have an idea how the generators on the images are constructed, there is still a lot involved to already start a constuction. I hope that we will receive some more information to build a generator.
I think the housing of the models in the pictures are of cast aluminum, what is your specialty Jeff. :D
If we later learn about the structure, as Mr. Keshe promised, then we can make the final 3D models. :dodgy:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on September 19th, 2012, 04:48 AM
Geert:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Hallo Geert,

(Bedankt voor de interessante informatie. [Dutch]) Thanks for the information. I've put myself just recently up as a volunteer for the Kesh-foundation, but when following his video's i find it really hard what to imagine around his words. Its such a new approach that i sometimes wish someone else would explain it..as if he already is too far into it?

So it makes me glad to see that you try to make the connexion to us here, viewing the world mostly in an old mechanical way?

And also you can copy your input here (later) on other new energy fora, so its no waste and a needed effort in my opinion.

For right now it would be helpful to our project with the Papp engine, which uses a plasma..to know how we can excite that plasma. Do you know how to calculate what frequencies we have to use to resonate with 2He and 3He and with the other components in the noble gasmixture?
see thread..rwgresearch/lets built a popper engine...





Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 19th, 2012, 06:33 AM
Hi Geert, anything you can offer as to replicate Keshe's devise is appreciated, I for one would be willing to cast the aluminum casing needed, then go from there.:cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Gunther Rattay on September 19th, 2012, 07:52 AM
Quote from geert8550 on September 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D
The purpose of this model is to clarify to people how the principle of the device would be.
The inner core spins around at high speed in order to obtain a centrifugal effect. I would think this process generates itself as a planet spins on its own. The first models (copper model) had a viewing window on the outside to see the scintilation. I therefore believe that the inner core is transparent and contains no metal so as not to influence the magnetic force.
The scintillation occurs between the housing and the inner core which is radon gas. For example, anti-gravity, scintilation MUST take place to achieve the desired process. By scintillation light is created as in the sun.
I already have an idea how the generators on the images are constructed, there is still a lot involved to already start a constuction. I hope that we will receive some more information to build a generator.
I think the housing of the models in the pictures are of cast aluminum, what is your specialty Jeff. :D
If we later learn about the structure, as Mr. Keshe promised, then we can make the final 3D models. :dodgy:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Geert
I have watches some of Keshe´s videos and I have read book 1 up to page 170 now. It´s full of interesting information.

In his most recent interview on Sept. 2nd at smartscarecrow Keshe mentioned that a nuclear engineer will be able to replicate the reactor with understanding of book 1 to 4 information. He also tells that that technology can be harmful to those not educated because one is dealing with the fundamental forces = magnetic fields. wrong field strength may bring severe injury to testers.

I assume it´s the same like Stan Meyer replication. trial and error is no way going but with Keshe´s tech there is fundamental effects like strong radiation etc. when fine tuned wrong way.
Keshe describes how magnetic fields interact in human body and how selective manipulation of magnetic fields can change gravity OR can change human body cell system (i.e. cancer or MS). that´s the reason why his discoveries also are useful for human health section.
But doing the wrong things will have opposite effects.

So be careful! It´s different from hobbyist projects.

My best guess: let´s wait for the publications starting from Sept. 21st to nuclear scientists.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 19th, 2012, 08:01 AM
In his most recent interview on Sept. 2nd at smartscarecrow Keshe mentioned that a nuclear engineer will be able to replicate the reactor with understanding of book 1 to 4 information. He also tells that that technology can be harmful to those not educated because one is dealing with the fundamental forces = magnetic fields. wrong field strength may bring severe injury to testers.


 Yes I agree, the only safe way of replicating Keshe's design's is to follow his lead by obtaining the PDF files free, when they are released the 21rst  of September.:cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 19th, 2012, 11:30 AM
Quote from bussi04 on September 19th, 2012, 07:52 AM
Quote from geert8550 on September 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM
I am studying for a while patents and came with the 3D model of the principle of Keshe generator.
Images: full sphere generator, half sphere generator (to create  anti gravity).
Looks good Geert, does the clear glass spin?:D
The purpose of this model is to clarify to people how the principle of the device would be.
The inner core spins around at high speed in order to obtain a centrifugal effect. I would think this process generates itself as a planet spins on its own. The first models (copper model) had a viewing window on the outside to see the scintilation. I therefore believe that the inner core is transparent and contains no metal so as not to influence the magnetic force.
The scintillation occurs between the housing and the inner core which is radon gas. For example, anti-gravity, scintilation MUST take place to achieve the desired process. By scintillation light is created as in the sun.
I already have an idea how the generators on the images are constructed, there is still a lot involved to already start a constuction. I hope that we will receive some more information to build a generator.
I think the housing of the models in the pictures are of cast aluminum, what is your specialty Jeff. :D
If we later learn about the structure, as Mr. Keshe promised, then we can make the final 3D models. :dodgy:

On the Keshe technology is very little response, even on this forum. I try to make people understand how the technology works and how the principle of generators are made​​. This is a call, if you have ideas by the text and videos of mr Keshe to create a clearer picture of this, please post it.
English is not my native language and sometimes I need to read texts several times to get a good picture of the content to link to the rest that I've learned. :-/

Geert
I have watches some of Keshe´s videos and I have read book 1 up to page 170 now. It´s full of interesting information.

In his most recent interview on Sept. 2nd at smartscarecrow Keshe mentioned that a nuclear engineer will be able to replicate the reactor with understanding of book 1 to 4 information. He also tells that that technology can be harmful to those not educated because one is dealing with the fundamental forces = magnetic fields. wrong field strength may bring severe injury to testers.

I assume it´s the same like Stan Meyer replication. trial and error is no way going but with Keshe´s tech there is fundamental effects like strong radiation etc. when fine tuned wrong way.
Keshe describes how magnetic fields interact in human body and how selective manipulation of magnetic fields can change gravity OR can change human body cell system (i.e. cancer or MS). that´s the reason why his discoveries also are useful for human health section.
But doing the wrong things will have opposite effects.

So be careful! It´s different from hobbyist projects.

My best guess: let´s wait for the publications starting from Sept. 21st to nuclear scientists.
Agree, we must have patience. My mean thing with this tread is not immediately switch to copy the device. I'm trying to figure out how this generator is constructed and share it with the world, it is very simple indeed compared with devices from stanley and other inventors. With 3D models can be better brainstormed about the concept, the safety and functionality of the structure. For now I want to keep it that way.
In mean i have made the coke bottle plasma generator. I still have some reading material to proceed to test. Report follows.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 19th, 2012, 11:40 AM
Wow Geert the "coke bottle plasma generator" :huh: did it work to your expectations, what did it generate?:cool::D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 21st, 2012, 04:23 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 19th, 2012, 11:40 AM
Wow Geert the "coke bottle plasma generator" :huh: did it work to your expectations, what did it generate?:cool::D
I post photos later. First some research for the liquid.:idea:
I have some new information on the material from which the inner core is made. I check and post a little later.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Abbarue on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
 
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Quote from Abbarue on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
Welcome Harold, we try to keep up as developments unfold on Keshe's technology. Point of interest is that a member Geert lives in Belgium, has been to some of the Keshe seminars and Keshe's books are going to be released on PDF for free in the coming months, can't wait for that, glad to have you, Jeff.:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 26th, 2012, 04:47 AM
Last weekend I made the cola plasma reactor. I used copper nails with large flat head. The liquid I used was regular cola with 5 cl sodium hydroxide as catalist. The first hour I got no voltage, after I was measuring up to 35 mV without the electrodes touching the liquid, a test with one electrode in the liquid got 785 mv. After ten minutes back to nothing (0.5 mV), the electrodes are blackened with graphene. I did the test by loosening the electrodes lay them on top of each other to take a measurement and the graphene seems fully to isolate the two from each other.

There was someone on the Keshe forum who recharged a cellphone with it, I just try to get in touch with him for more information.

I think I understand how it works. The CO2 in the cola is essential for these tests. By CO2 and the catalist a moliculaire hydrogen is formed (free hydrogen atoms> not H2 but H). Graphene is deposited on the electrodes as a side effect and thus the CO2 captured. The KT-liquid is the liquid CO2 created by their unit.

Posting foto's later on.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 26th, 2012, 06:17 AM
Quote from geert8550 on September 26th, 2012, 04:47 AM
Last weekend I made the cola plasma reactor. I used copper nails with large flat head. The liquid I used was regular cola with 5 cl sodium hydroxide as catalist. The first hour I got no voltage, after I was measuring up to 35 mV without the electrodes touching the liquid, a test with one electrode in the liquid got 785 mv. After ten minutes back to nothing (0.5 mV), the electrodes are blackened with graphene. I did the test by loosening the electrodes lay them on top of each other to take a measurement and the graphene seems fully to isolate the two from each other.

There was someone on the Keshe forum who recharged a cellphone with it, I just try to get in touch with him for more information.

I think I understand how it works. The CO2 in the cola is essential for these tests. By CO2 and the catalist a moliculaire hydrogen is formed (free hydrogen atoms> not H2 but H). Graphene is deposited on the electrodes as a side effect and thus the CO2 captured. The KT-liquid is the liquid CO2 created by their unit.

Posting foto's later on.

Geert
That sounds very promising Geert, can't wait to see the photos.:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 26th, 2012, 10:31 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Quote from Abbarue on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
Welcome Harold, we try to keep up as developments unfold on Keshe's technology. Point of interest is that a member Geert lives in Belgium, has been to some of the Keshe seminars and Keshe's books are going to be released on PDF for free in the coming months, can't wait for that, glad to have you, Jeff.:D
Jeff

The existing books will probably not be published freely. Mr. Keshe announced in his article that the following four new books that are published in PDF format.
Quote:
"In line with our programs and the opening of the Keshe Foundation research and development program, the Foundation has set out to prepare and publish four new books in PDF form."
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506(http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506)

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 26th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 26th, 2012, 10:31 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on September 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Quote from Abbarue on September 25th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Hello Everyone:

I'm new to this forum, but I have been on overunity.com forum for years.  
I started a thread on the Keshe Technology there and a member directed me to this forum.  I'm glad there are some other like minded people here interested in replication of Keshe's reactor, I was getting nothing but negativity on the overunity forum.  Maybe I will make this my new home for discussion, looks like a better lot of people here.  

Harold W. Lehmann
Welcome Harold, we try to keep up as developments unfold on Keshe's technology. Point of interest is that a member Geert lives in Belgium, has been to some of the Keshe seminars and Keshe's books are going to be released on PDF for free in the coming months, can't wait for that, glad to have you, Jeff.:D
Jeff

The existing books will probably not be published freely. Mr. Keshe announced in his article that the following four new books that are published in PDF format.
Quote:
"In line with our programs and the opening of the Keshe Foundation research and development program, the Foundation has set out to prepare and publish four new books in PDF form."
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506(http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2506)

Geert
Oh ok, thanks for telling me Geert.:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Abbarue on September 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM
In the short interview after the Sept. 21 event Mr. Keshe stated that the lessons will be posted in 1/2 hour parts with a pay tab after each one.  
He said if you want to pay you can, but if you don't have money you can still get the lessons.  My guess is that he will be doing the same thing with the pdf books as well.  
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 26th, 2012, 11:07 PM
Quote from Abbarue on September 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM
In the short interview after the Sept. 21 event Mr. Keshe stated that the lessons will be posted in 1/2 hour parts with a pay tab after each one.  
He said if you want to pay you can, but if you don't have money you can still get the lessons.  My guess is that he will be doing the same thing with the pdf books as well.
Yes indeed, I hope this promise does not last too long. Soon is quite relative.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 27th, 2012, 06:28 AM
Quote from Abbarue on September 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM
In the short interview after the Sept. 21 event Mr. Keshe stated that the lessons will be posted in 1/2 hour parts with a pay tab after each one.  
He said if you want to pay you can, but if you don't have money you can still get the lessons.  My guess is that he will be doing the same thing with the pdf books as well.
I , we can only hope.:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: pmam on September 28th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Hi Geert,

can you post the step by step How-To information?

That will be awesome!
I'm looking forward to replicating your method!

Paul
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 30th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Quote from pmam on September 28th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Hi Geert,

can you post the step by step How-To information?

That will be awesome!
I'm looking forward to replicating your method!

Paul
Paul
I promise to report it next week. I test this week yet another catalyst.
I'm allso busy thinking of the construction of the device that Keshe hold in the hands.:idea:

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on September 30th, 2012, 01:20 PM
Quote from geert8550 on September 30th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Quote from pmam on September 28th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Hi Geert,

can you post the step by step How-To information?

That will be awesome!
I'm looking forward to replicating your method!

Paul
Paul
I promise to report it next week. I test this week yet another catalyst.
I'm allso busy thinking of the construction of the device that Keshe hold in the hands.:idea:

Geert
Really cool Geert, look forward:cool::D:P to that .
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 5th, 2012, 11:28 PM
In the annex are some images of my experimental design.
I know Keshe said that no acids were used but I think that was already in their later stage after several years. In the first demonstrations you can clearly see the cola color of the liquid in the bottle. To say the making of the recent  KF-liquid would take a month. That is the reason I can not achieve the same results. To say, the composition of the many elements take time. The natural magnetic and gravitational fields (Magravs) of these elements are used to the desired results.
I understand that the gas (CO ²) and water in the cola is needed. Keshes fluid creates formic acid and atomic hydrogen (H) (as plasma), the atomic Magravs of the formic acid is absorbed by the copper electrodes so that the copper electrons vibrate and thus creates the electrical voltage.

In these experiments when using cola I took 5cl and other liquids 2,5cl.²&
With my first test I thought why not use 80% formic acid (CH2O2), result;  there was no voltage and no graphene formation even after a few hours. Next with 80% formic acid and cola cola. After an hour> no result, even after ten hours ditto.
- Second test: sodium hydroxide (NaOH) 30%, without result, with sparkling water, no result, with Coke> 1h after 7mV> 10.1mv after 10h, 24h after it remains stable at 5.1 mV. Even after opening the bottle remains the same voltage. After 28h still 4,3mV even with open bottle.
I am satisfied, on ebay I ordered KOH for further experiments. Next week so an update.
Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Gunther Rattay on October 6th, 2012, 02:45 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 5th, 2012, 11:28 PM
In the annex are some images of my experimental design.
I know Keshe said that no acids were used but I think that was already in their later stage after several years. In the first demonstrations you can clearly see the cola color of the liquid in the bottle. To say the making of the recent  KF-liquid would take a month. That is the reason I can not achieve the same results. To say, the composition of the many elements take time. The natural magnetic and gravitational fields (Magravs) of these elements are used to the desired results.
I understand that the gas (CO ²) and water in the cola is needed. Keshes fluid creates formic acid and atomic hydrogen (H) (as plasma), the atomic Magravs of the formic acid is absorbed by the copper electrodes so that the copper electrons vibrate and thus creates the electrical voltage.

In these experiments when using cola I took 5cl and other liquids 2,5cl.²&
With my first test I thought why not use 80% formic acid (CH2O2), result;  there was no voltage and no graphene formation even after a few hours. Next with 80% formic acid and cola cola. After an hour> no result, even after ten hours ditto.
- Second test: sodium hydroxide (NaOH) 30%, without result, with sparkling water, no result, with Coke> 1h after 7mV> 10.1mv after 10h, 24h after it remains stable at 5.1 mV. Even after opening the bottle remains the same voltage. After 28h still 4,3mV even with open bottle.
I am satisfied, on ebay I ordered KOH for further experiments. Next week so an update.
Geert
Very good job, Geert :-)

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on October 6th, 2012, 06:08 AM
Thanks Geert, liked all the photos, gives us a good idea of whats happening. I had watched Keshe's video of this, don't remember the results, I'll have to go back and watch it again. Good work, thanks for the update, Jeff.:cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Hydron on October 6th, 2012, 08:14 AM
I can't help but notice the color of Keshe's KT liquid as being a milky white, which, in a separate more recent video, he shows a white liquid and says something to the effect that it was CO2 in a liquid form. Is this correct?

After some research and thought, I came to an idea of what the white liquid might be. At this point, I am looking at Boron Nitride as apposed to KOH or NaHCO3. Beyond that, Hydrogen Peroxide and/or Sparkling water would be my best guess as the basic liquid/s for a Boron Nitride solution. Any thoughts?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on October 6th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Quote from Hydron on October 6th, 2012, 08:14 AM
I can't help but notice the color of Keshe's KT liquid as being a milky white, which, in a separate more recent video, he shows a white liquid and says something to the effect that it was CO2 in a liquid form. Is this correct?

After some research and thought, I came to an idea of what the white liquid might be. At this point, I am looking at Boron Nitride as apposed to KOH or NaHCO3. Beyond that, Hydrogen Peroxide and/or Sparkling water would be my best guess as the basic liquid/s for a Boron Nitride solution. Any thoughts?
Keshe had the stuff researched in Belgium and they acknowledged it was a form of carbon


Quote from geert8550 on October 5th, 2012, 11:28 PM
In the annex are some images of my experimental design.
I know Keshe said that no acids were used but I think that was already in their later stage after several years. In the first demonstrations you can clearly see the cola color of the liquid in the bottle. To say the making of the recent  KF-liquid would take a month. That is the reason I can not achieve the same results. To say, the composition of the many elements take time. The natural magnetic and gravitational fields (Magravs) of these elements are used to the desired results.
I understand that the gas (CO ²) and water in the cola is needed. Keshes fluid creates formic acid and atomic hydrogen (H) (as plasma), the atomic Magravs of the formic acid is absorbed by the copper electrodes so that the copper electrons vibrate and thus creates the electrical voltage.

In these experiments when using cola I took 5cl and other liquids 2,5cl.²&
With my first test I thought why not use 80% formic acid (CH2O2), result;  there was no voltage and no graphene formation even after a few hours. Next with 80% formic acid and cola cola. After an hour> no result, even after ten hours ditto.
- Second test: sodium hydroxide (NaOH) 30%, without result, with sparkling water, no result, with Coke> 1h after 7mV> 10.1mv after 10h, 24h after it remains stable at 5.1 mV. Even after opening the bottle remains the same voltage. After 28h still 4,3mV even with open bottle.
I am satisfied, on ebay I ordered KOH for further experiments. Next week so an update.
Geert
Nice work Geert, be very very carefull with KOH
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 7th, 2012, 01:42 AM
Quote from Hydron on October 6th, 2012, 08:14 AM
I can't help but notice the color of Keshe's KT liquid as being a milky white, which, in a separate more recent video, he shows a white liquid and says something to the effect that it was CO2 in a liquid form. Is this correct?

After some research and thought, I came to an idea of what the white liquid might be. At this point, I am looking at Boron Nitride as apposed to KOH or NaHCO3. Beyond that, Hydrogen Peroxide and/or Sparkling water would be my best guess as the basic liquid/s for a Boron Nitride solution. Any thoughts?
Thanks for the feadback Hydron. I try to answer in between.

I can not help but notice the color or Keshe KT's axis being a milky white liquid, All which, in a separate more recent video, he shows a white liquid and says something to the effect That it was CO2 in a liquid form. Is this correct?

Yes this is correct, but the first tests were quite different (see appendix) there was a clear cola liquid used. Only in later stages, the milky liquid was used.

After some research and thought, I came to an idea of what the white liquid might be. At this point, I am looking at Boron Nitride as apposed to KOH or NaHCO3. Beyond That, Hydrogen Peroxide and / or Sparkling water would be my best guess as the basic liquid / s for a Boron Nitride solution. Any thoughts?

The KOH is ordered and I expect the package next week. I will have some experiments with the product include your proposal. Report follows.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: anromanti on October 9th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 5th, 2012, 11:28 PM
In the annex are some images of my experimental design.
I know Keshe said that no acids were used but I think that was already in their later stage after several years. In the first demonstrations you can clearly see the cola color of the liquid in the bottle. To say the making of the recent  KF-liquid would take a month. That is the reason I can not achieve the same results. To say, the composition of the many elements take time. The natural magnetic and gravitational fields (Magravs) of these elements are used to the desired results.
I understand that the gas (CO ²) and water in the cola is needed. Keshes fluid creates formic acid and atomic hydrogen (H) (as plasma), the atomic Magravs of the formic acid is absorbed by the copper electrodes so that the copper electrons vibrate and thus creates the electrical voltage.

In these experiments when using cola I took 5cl and other liquids 2,5cl.²&
With my first test I thought why not use 80% formic acid (CH2O2), result;  there was no voltage and no graphene formation even after a few hours. Next with 80% formic acid and cola cola. After an hour> no result, even after ten hours ditto.
- Second test: sodium hydroxide (NaOH) 30%, without result, with sparkling water, no result, with Coke> 1h after 7mV> 10.1mv after 10h, 24h after it remains stable at 5.1 mV. Even after opening the bottle remains the same voltage. After 28h still 4,3mV even with open bottle.
I am satisfied, on ebay I ordered KOH for further experiments. Next week so an update.
Geert
Hi this is Anro Manti, i am a volounteer from 2 groups in face book (Keshe Translations and Fundacion Keshe: Información en Español) for tanslate info about keshe to Spanish (Portuguese, netherlands), i was wondering if i can translate your experiments and include the pictures?, and if you have extra information, it will be appreciated. tks
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 9th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Quote from anromanti on October 9th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 5th, 2012, 11:28 PM
In the annex are some images of my experimental design.
I know Keshe said that no acids were used but I think that was already in their later stage after several years. In the first demonstrations you can clearly see the cola color of the liquid in the bottle. To say the making of the recent  KF-liquid would take a month. That is the reason I can not achieve the same results. To say, the composition of the many elements take time. The natural magnetic and gravitational fields (Magravs) of these elements are used to the desired results.
I understand that the gas (CO ²) and water in the cola is needed. Keshes fluid creates formic acid and atomic hydrogen (H) (as plasma), the atomic Magravs of the formic acid is absorbed by the copper electrodes so that the copper electrons vibrate and thus creates the electrical voltage.

In these experiments when using cola I took 5cl and other liquids 2,5cl.²&
With my first test I thought why not use 80% formic acid (CH2O2), result;  there was no voltage and no graphene formation even after a few hours. Next with 80% formic acid and cola cola. After an hour> no result, even after ten hours ditto.
- Second test: sodium hydroxide (NaOH) 30%, without result, with sparkling water, no result, with Coke> 1h after 7mV> 10.1mv after 10h, 24h after it remains stable at 5.1 mV. Even after opening the bottle remains the same voltage. After 28h still 4,3mV even with open bottle.
I am satisfied, on ebay I ordered KOH for further experiments. Next week so an update.
Geert
Hi this is Anro Manti, i am a volounteer from 2 groups in face book (Keshe Translations and Fundacion Keshe: Información en Español) for tanslate info about keshe to Spanish (Portuguese, netherlands), i was wondering if i can translate your experiments and include the pictures?, and if you have extra information, it will be appreciated. tks
Anromanti Hello,

I live in Belgium and I've been in the Keshe center in Ninove for a event 70 km from my home. Thanks for the support, it is intended that many people view these tests. I am not a scientist or chemist and I can not believe I'm the only one who seemed to experiment with this simple concept, it would be nice to share this with many others and test ideas to work out. I hope later to build a Keshe plasma reactor by means of open source.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: sadang on October 10th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Hello geert8550,

I am from Romania, and I am also interested in the theory of Keshe. I already read his public documents, and I hope in short time I'll buy his first book (considerable expensive for my pocket). I would like to know, because you said you were in Ninove, at the foundation of Keshe, if you can tell me honestly what you think about how real or not is the whole this story. Could you confirm somehow if Keshe, even graduated the Nuclear Engineering from Queen Mary College, in 1981? For me this question is important, for the further steps that I'll follow. Thanks.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 10th, 2012, 11:26 AM
Quote from sadang on October 10th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Hello geert8550,

I am from Romania, and I am also interested in the theory of Keshe. I already read his public documents, and I hope in short time I'll buy his first book (considerable expensive for my pocket). I would like to know, because you said you were in Ninove, at the foundation of Keshe, if you can tell me honestly what you think about how real or not is the whole this story. Could you confirm somehow if Keshe, even graduated the Nuclear Engineering from Queen Mary College, in 1981? For me this question is important, for the further steps that I'll follow. Thanks.
Hello Sadang

Until last weekend I had my source in the KF, I regularly chatted with him that I had met in Ninove. This week has transferred this task to someone else, I have tried to make contact but got no answer.
I had already told the story to Jeff Nadding (moderator). Now my source has nothing anymore to do with the KF, i can tell something.
Within the core of the KF is not well between the employees and Keshe itself. He makes promises and not hold them, put regular contributors to the side and has no respect for the many volunteers that work hard. A difficult man to work together, geniuses can sometimes be difficult to understand, you know. There has been a debate about the education software and videos to post but Keshe always move the date.
My contact said his technology is 100% true but he probably not knows anymore how he should proceed.
Many start to lose their trust in Keshe but I keep hoping. This thread is intended to find out how the theory works and later to build a generator through open source.
I also thought to buy the books, it is of course a lot of money. But ok, anything for science.

Blessings
Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: sadang on October 10th, 2012, 12:55 PM
Thank you for this prompt answer. I read his public documents, his patents and I saw videos available on youtube, and it seems a valuable theory with real practical implementations. His theory is very similar to Keely's theory, or Leeskalnin's magnetic current and its applications. But indeed, Keshe thinks more deeper, and his fundamental magnetic plasmatic filed looks, at least for me, like the ancient ether, or the koilon from Occult Chemistry. And I really believe that magnetic fileds, or a form of magnetism is the fundamental structure of the entire universe. Much beyound the Plank limit. Anyway, I still believe in Keshe and his good intentions, and I'll follow further his work. I am more interested in practical aplications with magnetism, electricity and gravity, according to Keshe's theory. I would like to find some practical use, without appealing to his sferical plasmatic reactor. Thank you again, and I'll continue to follow this topic and perhaps I'll can help somehow your work.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 10th, 2012, 11:14 PM

Anromanti
Any help is welcome, I'm planning to order the first book, the English text understanding takes some time for me because I never learned english, speak and understand is usually not a problem.
The KOH has arrived and I've already made ​​a solution of 80 g KOH in 1 liter of demineralized water, which makes up about a purity of 10% KOH. This information comes from HHO sites, I first try with this KOH solution. Keshe said no acids using previous products I used were quite acids (formic acid and sodium hydroxide), KOH is a base. Maybe there are other elements in the KF liquid Keshe used.
Tonight I do a test, pictures and report follows.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: sadang on October 11th, 2012, 01:03 AM
@anromanti
Hi. You said you are the member of a translation team from Facebook, which work to translate the Keshe theory. Did you have some translations made, or already added to diferent videos on youtube. I ask this, because I already translated from english to Romanian, the first 5 videos of Keshe theory, I send them to Keshe Foundation, to the specified email address on the Keshe Foundation website page, and also I sent them from youtube to Keshe youtube channel, and yntil today I did not receined any answer. An advice related to this subject is welcome. Thanks.

@geert8550
I think is much better to use distilled water, not demineralized, or deionized, or other kind of purified water. Only distilled water with 0ppm (parts per million) impurities. Any other kind of purified water will generate different compunds, which will results in other different chemical reactions and results.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: anromanti on October 11th, 2012, 01:32 AM
Quote from sadang on October 11th, 2012, 01:03 AM
@anromanti
Hi. You said you are the member of a translation team from Facebook, which work to translate the Keshe theory. Did you have some translations made, or already added to diferent videos on youtube. I ask this, because I already translated from english to Romanian, the first 5 videos of Keshe theory, I send them to Keshe Foundation, to the specified email address on the Keshe Foundation website page, and also I sent them from youtube to Keshe youtube channel, and yntil today I did not receined any answer. An advice related to this subject is welcome. Thanks.
Hi, i already sent a few emails and subtitles in spanish but i never received any answer, somebody who is in contact with Belgica told me that they are changing the server and few things in the foundation, and that is why, the same person told me that the foundation are creating a plataform for the education and they first creating gruops in facebook named "KesheThoughtsGroupCOUNTRY" like KesheThoughtsGroupHispanoamerica. The person who is in contact has the first chapter of the book and that person is working in the translation. The foundation is giving the information litle by little.
take care
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 11th, 2012, 04:46 AM
Quote from anromanti on October 11th, 2012, 01:32 AM
Quote from sadang on October 11th, 2012, 01:03 AM
@anromanti
Hi. You said you are the member of a translation team from Facebook, which work to translate the Keshe theory. Did you have some translations made, or already added to diferent videos on youtube. I ask this, because I already translated from english to Romanian, the first 5 videos of Keshe theory, I send them to Keshe Foundation, to the specified email address on the Keshe Foundation website page, and also I sent them from youtube to Keshe youtube channel, and yntil today I did not receined any answer. An advice related to this subject is welcome. Thanks.
Hi, i already sent a few emails and subtitles in spanish but i never received any answer, somebody who is in contact with Belgica told me that they are changing the server and few things in the foundation, and that is why, the same person told me that the foundation are creating a plataform for the education and they first creating gruops in facebook named "KesheThoughtsGroupCOUNTRY" like KesheThoughtsGroupHispanoamerica. The person who is in contact has the first chapter of the book and that person is working in the translation. The foundation is giving the information litle by little.
take care
Thanks for the information, this looks promising.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 13th, 2012, 08:49 AM
Quote from sadang on October 11th, 2012, 01:03 AM
@geert8550
I think is much better to use distilled water, not demineralized, or deionized, or other kind of purified water. Only distilled water with 0ppm (parts per million) impurities. Any other kind of purified water will generate different compunds, which will results in other different chemical reactions and results.
Ok, I'll get distilled water and test again. Thanks for the tip.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Una on October 14th, 2012, 02:26 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 10th, 2012, 11:14 PM
Anromanti
Any help is welcome, I'm planning to order the first book, the English text understanding takes some time for me because I never learned english, speak and understand is usually not a problem.
The KOH has arrived and I've already made ​​a solution of 80 g KOH in 1 liter of demineralized water, which makes up about a purity of 10% KOH. This information comes from HHO sites, I first try with this KOH solution. Keshe said no acids using previous products I used were quite acids (formic acid and sodium hydroxide), KOH is a base. Maybe there are other elements in the KF liquid Keshe used.
Tonight I do a test, pictures and report follows.

Geert
Hi Geert,
I have the tree books of Keshe in pdf format. I can send you by e-mail or skype or other..

Una

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: sadang on October 14th, 2012, 02:06 PM
Good work Una and geert8550. But I dare to ask; is it legal to download or to translate these books without Keshe's agreement?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on October 14th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Quote from sadang on October 14th, 2012, 02:06 PM
Good work Una and geert8550. But I dare to ask; is it legal to download or to translate these books without Keshe's agreement?
That was my thought as well? Did you have permission Una?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: ~Russ on October 14th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on October 14th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Quote from sadang on October 14th, 2012, 02:06 PM
Good work Una and geert8550. But I dare to ask; is it legal to download or to translate these books without Keshe's agreement?
That was my thought as well? Did you have permission Una?
Una,

For now I had to take those posts off the forums, sadly i will get in trouble for having any copyright material Posted on the forums.

Thanks for posting but I need to make sure know one gets in trouble! :)

Thanks!!!! ~Russ  
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Una on October 15th, 2012, 12:33 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 14th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on October 14th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Quote from sadang on October 14th, 2012, 02:06 PM
Good work Una and geert8550. But I dare to ask; is it legal to download or to translate these books without Keshe's agreement?
That was my thought as well? Did you have permission Una?
Una,

For now I had to take those posts off the forums, sadly i will get in trouble for having any copyright material Posted on the forums.

Thanks for posting but I need to make sure know one gets in trouble! :)

Thanks!!!! ~Russ
Hi all,

I understand very well, and I 'm sorry if I take some action that is considered to not legal or any other,
but I have to tell you, that I have encountered and downloaded all this books and other documents (included some full patents) of mr.Keshe. And every body can do it. Just a litle smart google search and voila..
So I just will give you some links:

Here you can download the books (just have to register, I think). Maybe there are many other sites, but I have encountered this one:

http://www.novaset.net/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b754615ea5331e50366eae32329eccf363dff459#expand

And here you have a very good explanations of Keshe experiments and generators, included pdf patent (full version) with photos, explanations, grafics and many others

http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/keshe.htm

Actualy I think, that this site is more helpfull for the practical construction of generator, than the books.
Any way, if you think that I have no rights to publish this links, you may delete my post.
Greet, I wish you sincerely success.. And waiting to see some results.

Una
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on October 15th, 2012, 06:21 AM
Quote from Una on October 15th, 2012, 12:33 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 14th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on October 14th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Quote from sadang on October 14th, 2012, 02:06 PM
Good work Una and geert8550. But I dare to ask; is it legal to download or to translate these books without Keshe's agreement?
That was my thought as well? Did you have permission Una?
Una,

For now I had to take those posts off the forums, sadly i will get in trouble for having any copyright material Posted on the forums.

Thanks for posting but I need to make sure know one gets in trouble! :)

Thanks!!!! ~Russ
Hi all,

I understand very well, and I 'm sorry if I take some action that is considered to not legal or any other,
but I have to tell you, that I have encountered and downloaded all this books and other documents (included some full patents) of mr.Keshe. And every body can do it. Just a litle smart google search and voila..
So I just will give you some links:

Here you can download the books (just have to register, I think). Maybe there are many other sites, but I have encountered this one:

http://www.novaset.net/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b754615ea5331e50366eae32329eccf363dff459#expand

And here you have a very good explanations of Keshe experiments and generators, included pdf patent (full version) with photos, explanations, grafics and many others

http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/keshe.htm

Actualy I think, that this site is more helpfull for the practical construction of generator, than the books.
Any way, if you think that I have no rights to publish this links, you may delete my post.
Greet, I wish you sincerely success.. And waiting to see some results.

Una
Thank you Una, we appreciate your help and the willingness to pursue Keshe's technology. We look forward to the day when there will be no boarders separating one person from another in different countries. Please continue to post and help us with Keshe's technology. Thank you for the links, Jeff.:cool::D:P  
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Hydron on October 16th, 2012, 07:01 AM
"The KT Liquid"! What is it? How is it made? I am pretty certain at this point, that the liquid used in the plasma reactor is CO2 for the most part. How it is made is still a mystery to me, but Keshe wrote a little about "MOF's" or "Metal-organic frameworks". These MOF's can be constructed in ways that allow the material to absorb CO2 and CH4 out of the atmosphere. I believe Keshe called one of his devices a "day/night panel". Once the gasses are absorbed into the MOF, they can either be stored or released again into liquid or solid form.

Once in liquid form, the CO2 can be converted into graphene and diamond like mono atomic state particles that attach themselves to a copper substrate as the CO2 is released or gassed off out of the liquid. I think it's possible the coke added to one of the demonstrations was to show the cola would not affect the reaction. Hence, the quote: "The acids contained in the cola drink are not essential for creating current". He writes nothing about the CO2 in the cola, is that a slight of hand?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on October 16th, 2012, 01:53 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
Looks good Geert, wish I had time to research this more along with you.:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Una on October 16th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
Hi Geert, I'm hot chemisist, but just engineer of telecommunications, but what I think (sorry for my english, I hope you will understand me).
Before buy anything, you have to think...
What is doing Keshe? The principle..
What I think:
He do not use the chemical principle. He say that use the magnetic field...Than I think that all this things are funcioning becasue:
- the basics materials of the Cola generator inside are elements that can be ionized
- the gas of the Cola (when the bottle is closed well) is doing some vacuum (needed to make the electromagnetic connection between the elements in the ionized liquid more less, and so to create environment and circumstances to an step ionization - when the the connections are breacking and creating new one, releasing energy). Also the gas maybe is used to help to the process of ionization
- the litle acid of the Cola make the liquid conductive and this helps for the electrodes also

Hope that helps you a litle
Una
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on October 17th, 2012, 07:11 AM
Quote from Una on October 16th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
Hi Geert, I'm hot chemisist, but just engineer of telecommunications, but what I think (sorry for my english, I hope you will understand me).
Before buy anything, you have to think...
What is doing Keshe? The principle..
What I think:
He do not use the chemical principle. He say that use the magnetic field...Than I think that all this things are funcioning becasue:
- the basics materials of the Cola generator inside are elements that can be ionized
- the gas of the Cola (when the bottle is closed well) is doing some vacuum (needed to make the electromagnetic connection between the elements in the ionized liquid more less, and so to create environment and circumstances to an step ionization - when the the connections are breacking and creating new one, releasing energy). Also the gas maybe is used to help to the process of ionization
- the litle acid of the Cola make the liquid conductive and this helps for the electrodes also

Hope that helps you a litle
Una
Sounds like a good theory Una, are you building the generator?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Quote from Una on October 16th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I did some tests with the Kesche coke reactor.
Again with sodium hydroxide and cola:
- Photo 1: sodium hydroxide solution with 5 cl Cola previous test after 2 days no better result (07.47h)
- Photo 2: Open bottle remains at the same value (07.50h)
- Photo 3; bottle emptied, value remains stable (08.01h)
- Photo 4: After 20 min value remains stable (08.21h)

The following tests were carried out with a mixture of demineralised water and 10% KOH, the flask rinsed with tap water and immediately refilled with the KOH solution at 08.30h. Same bottle was used with the same electrodes without cleaning.
picture 5: 10% KOH with dedemineraliseerd water.
picture 6: ± 15 cl after 16h (00.01h) 7,2 mV
picture 7: after 24.5 h (08.31h) 10.5 mV.

When opening the bottle, the value drops to 11 mV, and then to gradually lower. Back closing the bottle increases the value back to 8.2 mV.

I got the tip to use distilled water, which I will do in the next experiments. I think the coke and liquid nothing matters but the water is essential. in previous experiments, there was no gas in the liquid (CO2 as in cola).
I am not a chemist and would like to appeal to your suggestions.

Geert
Hi Geert, I'm hot chemisist, but just engineer of telecommunications, but what I think (sorry for my english, I hope you will understand me).
Before buy anything, you have to think...
What is doing Keshe? The principle..
What I think:
He do not use the chemical principle. He say that use the magnetic field...Than I think that all this things are funcioning becasue:
- the basics materials of the Cola generator inside are elements that can be ionized
- the gas of the Cola (when the bottle is closed well) is doing some vacuum (needed to make the electromagnetic connection between the elements in the ionized liquid more less, and so to create environment and circumstances to an step ionization - when the the connections are breacking and creating new one, releasing energy). Also the gas maybe is used to help to the process of ionization
- the litle acid of the Cola make the liquid conductive and this helps for the electrodes also

Hope that helps you a litle
Una
Hello una
Thank you for the feedback.
Keshe also said that the acid in the cola was of no importance.

It is difficult to translate and understand the texts, sometimes I need eight times reread to summarize what is actually meant.

I understand that by the formed magnetic fields (plasma) the copper molecules vibrate and thus electrical energy is created. The magnetic fields are released through absorption and conversion of the captured CO2 to formic acid.
:dodgy::s
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Una on October 17th, 2012, 12:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Hello una
Thank you for the feedback.
Keshe also said that the acid in the cola was of no importance.

It is difficult to translate and understand the texts, sometimes I need eight times reread to summarize what is actually meant.

I understand that by the formed magnetic fields (plasma) the copper molecules vibrate and thus electrical energy is created. The magnetic fields are released through absorption and conversion of the captured CO2 to formic acid.
:dodgy::s
Actualy, what I have explained is more my understanding about the generator.(he has explained it more clear). The experiment with the coca cola bottle is not very clear, becasue Keshe dont say what contains Kt liquid... And you are right, he uses the CO2 from the coca cola (or from the environment) capture the CO2 and due to the Plasmatic Magnetic Energy carbon is collected on the electrodes like a nano material. The electrodes is not necessary submerged in the liquid. He say also that every body can prove the experiment with their proper electrodes and multimeter.. and the coca cola liquid.. than the secret is the Kt liquid..
Maybe to start the process he uses some radioactive isotopes and maybe also some magnetic particles in the Kt liquid...
The generator is more clear explained (in the part of the used materials). MF1 is the magnetic field created from permanent magnets, MF2 is the magnetic field creating from the dinamyc magnetic fields inside the self rotating core (with the red line) in wich are putted the permanent magnets (with the radial oriented poles).  This core is supported by some bearings and can rotate. Around and outside the core there are coils, where the current can be induced from the dinamyc rotating magnetic fields in the core. The elements inside the core will be grupped due to the rotation (centrofugial force) and the most lighter will be in the center of the core, and the most hevier on the  edge of the core. There are radioactive material for starting the process, because the H need more energy to ionization and separation of a electron. He and Ar are for make the ionization an continued process (step ionization). The ultraviolet light also may help the process of ionization. And in this soup of ionized nucleos, electrons and the  mishmash of magnetic plazma fields, vacuumed in the core, will start reactions of separating and recombinating of nucleos, electrons wich release energy. Its nedeed only start the proces from outside energy and then its establish and countinued itself.. It is my understanding. There are many cuestion of course... But we all are learning...
 (http://www.everyday-feng-shui.de/feng-shui-news/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/keshe-generator.jpg)

PS: Jeff, unfortunatelly I dont have yet the generator builded.. But maybe soon.. ;)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on October 17th, 2012, 02:29 PM
So much experimentation to do, soooo little time and money. I wonder what radioactive material Keshe used. Want to build this generator but it's going to have to wait a while.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Quote from Una on October 17th, 2012, 12:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Hello una
Thank you for the feedback.
Keshe also said that the acid in the cola was of no importance.

It is difficult to translate and understand the texts, sometimes I need eight times reread to summarize what is actually meant.

I understand that by the formed magnetic fields (plasma) the copper molecules vibrate and thus electrical energy is created. The magnetic fields are released through absorption and conversion of the captured CO2 to formic acid.
:dodgy::s
Actualy, what I have explained is more my understanding about the generator.(he has explained it more clear). The experiment with the coca cola bottle is not very clear, becasue Keshe dont say what contains Kt liquid... And you are right, he uses the CO2 from the coca cola (or from the environment) capture the CO2 and due to the Plasmatic Magnetic Energy carbon is collected on the electrodes like a nano material. The electrodes is not necessary submerged in the liquid. He say also that every body can prove the experiment with their proper electrodes and multimeter.. and the coca cola liquid.. than the secret is the Kt liquid..
Maybe to start the process he uses some radioactive isotopes and maybe also some magnetic particles in the Kt liquid...
The generator is more clear explained (in the part of the used materials). MF1 is the magnetic field created from permanent magnets, MF2 is the magnetic field creating from the dinamyc magnetic fields inside the self rotating core (with the red line) in wich are putted the permanent magnets (with the radial oriented poles).  This core is supported by some bearings and can rotate. Around and outside the core there are coils, where the current can be induced from the dinamyc rotating magnetic fields in the core. The elements inside the core will be grupped due to the rotation (centrofugial force) and the most lighter will be in the center of the core, and the most hevier on the  edge of the core. There are radioactive material for starting the process, because the H need more energy to ionization and separation of a electron. He and Ar are for make the ionization an continued process (step ionization). The ultraviolet light also may help the process of ionization. And in this soup of ionized nucleos, electrons and the  mishmash of magnetic plazma fields, vacuumed in the core, will start reactions of separating and recombinating of nucleos, electrons wich release energy. Its nedeed only start the proces from outside energy and then its establish and countinued itself.. It is my understanding. There are many cuestion of course... But we all are learning...
 (http://www.everyday-feng-shui.de/feng-shui-news/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/keshe-generator.jpg)

PS: Jeff, unfortunatelly I dont have yet the generator builded.. But maybe soon.. ;)
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.
In the first post of this toppic I sent a picture of a 3D model based on the description in the patents. It is clear to me now that the inner core (caroline core) not made of glass (I forgot what kind of metal). The viewing window in the outer core (housing) is likely to check if the process starts (spinning of the inner core), that viewing window on the  first models were with glued selicone, so I think the radon gas is not in a vacuum state but atmospheric pressure. Between the two cores (with the radon gas) are no other coils present, the cores scintillation occurs outside the generator (it gives light). The central column is for entering the liquid gases while the centrifugal process is in progress. As well as to the electro-magnets to be mounted, and fixed the electrodes to take  the electrical energy. The coils on the column are need to start the process (Creating the first magnetic fields).
The central column can be moved (up and down) for fine tuning. The polarity of the coils can be arbitrarily reversed or modified. I think there's a kind of mainboard (circuit) attached to it. I think on the prototype2 on de image there are brass rings to see with corbon brushes.
What do you think of this?
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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Una on October 17th, 2012, 11:28 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.
Geert, thank's for the information.
Where he said that did not use solid magnets? In the coca cola experiment or in te generator? because in the picture and the explanation about the generator there are solid magnets (the litle blu/red rectangles beyond the core).
Thank you so much for your information, and hope that you can tell more. Every litle thing can be important.
Una

PS. Jeff, I dont know what kind of radioctive material use Keshe for the generator, but in the picture, there are sign for radioctive element (the litle black/yellow circle in the core)

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Una on October 18th, 2012, 02:01 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.

In the first post of this toppic I sent a picture of a 3D model based on the description in the patents. It is clear to me now that the inner core (caroline core) not made of glass (I forgot what kind of metal). The viewing window in the outer core (housing) is likely to check if the process starts (spinning of the inner core), that viewing window on the  first models were with glued selicone, so I think the radon gas is not in a vacuum state but atmospheric pressure. Between the two cores (with the radon gas) are no other coils present, the cores scintillation occurs outside the generator (it gives light). The central column is for entering the liquid gases while the centrifugal process is in progress. As well as to the electro-magnets to be mounted, and fixed the electrodes to take  the electrical energy. The coils on the column are need to start the process (Creating the first magnetic fields).
The central column can be moved (up and down) for fine tuning. The polarity of the coils can be arbitrarily reversed or modified. I think there's a kind of mainboard (circuit) attached to it. I think on the prototype2 on de image there are brass rings to see with corbon brushes.
What do you think of this?
Geert,
maybe the sentral core are made by an material that is solid magnet... I just suppose... The brass rings and the carbon brush are like an dinamo maybe - to transform the rotation in energy (current), and you are right - the coils are for the start the process (creating an initial dinamic magnetic field) , than the core (maybe made from solid magnet metal, or there are some putting on it, radial positioned, like in the picture) start rotating and the rotation and all the materials inside start an dinamyc process of decay and fusion, releasing energy, (now we have a dinamic magnetic field - MF2 from inside). And make the core (whit the solid magnets) rotate itself, the brass rings and the brush convert the rotation in current (the principle of the dinamo).
Maybe is more simple to do the smallest variant (with cylinders) like in this picture:
(http://pesn.com/2012/08/31/9602173_Keshe_Foundation_Promo_Intro_Video_Posted/Keshe_solid-state-battery_450.jpg)
what do you think?

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 18th, 2012, 04:19 AM
Quote from Una on October 18th, 2012, 02:01 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 17th, 2012, 10:36 PM
When I've been to the event on June 15, 2012, it was asked from the audience or permanent magnets were used and his answer was clearly no.

In the first post of this toppic I sent a picture of a 3D model based on the description in the patents. It is clear to me now that the inner core (caroline core) not made of glass (I forgot what kind of metal). The viewing window in the outer core (housing) is likely to check if the process starts (spinning of the inner core), that viewing window on the  first models were with glued selicone, so I think the radon gas is not in a vacuum state but atmospheric pressure. Between the two cores (with the radon gas) are no other coils present, the cores scintillation occurs outside the generator (it gives light). The central column is for entering the liquid gases while the centrifugal process is in progress. As well as to the electro-magnets to be mounted, and fixed the electrodes to take  the electrical energy. The coils on the column are need to start the process (Creating the first magnetic fields).
The central column can be moved (up and down) for fine tuning. The polarity of the coils can be arbitrarily reversed or modified. I think there's a kind of mainboard (circuit) attached to it. I think on the prototype2 on de image there are brass rings to see with corbon brushes.
What do you think of this?
Geert,
maybe the sentral core are made by an material that is solid magnet... I just suppose... The brass rings and the carbon brush are like an dinamo maybe - to transform the rotation in energy (current), and you are right - the coils are for the start the process (creating an initial dinamic magnetic field) , than the core (maybe made from solid magnet metal, or there are some putting on it, radial positioned, like in the picture) start rotating and the rotation and all the materials inside start an dinamyc process of decay and fusion, releasing energy, (now we have a dinamic magnetic field - MF2 from inside). And make the core (whit the solid magnets) rotate itself, the brass rings and the brush convert the rotation in current (the principle of the dinamo).
Maybe is more simple to do the smallest variant (with cylinders) like in this picture:
(http://pesn.com/2012/08/31/9602173_Keshe_Foundation_Promo_Intro_Video_Posted/Keshe_solid-state-battery_450.jpg)
what do you think?
The image that you set is the same as the Coke bottle there are no magnets in only electrodes in plasma but without liquid. The other is the basic principle of operation of the final generator. I must say that this schedule is not correct more this is one of the very beginning, now there are already other versions of the generator (see previous pictures).
In the large version of the rotating core is absolutely no permanent magnets used because it is not under control. The electromagnets can be arranged in whatever you want depending on what you want to join (antigraviteit, electrical power, water or air for healing, or metaangas CO2 capture, oxygen making, ...)

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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 22nd, 2012, 04:50 AM
Found this movie with Chinese text, know someone translate these words?

Keshe能源機模擬動畫 (Keshe energy machine simulation animation)

/watch?v=cwR4Cx_01R0
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 22nd, 2012, 09:00 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
About the presence of radon in the generator (outer core) you're right, but I think the Chinese might know more than we do because the Chinese government recognizes this technology, and also want to cooperate.

I recently saw a documentary on National Geographic about advanced technology in ancient civilizations, namely Egypt. One wonders whether the many granite blocks into pyramids in one way or another could be a source of energy. In Greece also found stone jars with acids which were probably batteries, these are a few thousand years old.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_hitech02a.htm
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: ~Russ on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: ~Russ on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: firepinto on October 23rd, 2012, 09:19 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
Apparently granite can contain radio active materials like thorium and other metals.  I have seen granite counter tops in my travels through hotels that have had large chunks of iron in them.  Makes you want to have a gieger counter keychain or something...

Nate
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 11:36 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 23rd, 2012, 09:19 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
Apparently granite can contain radio active materials like thorium and other metals.  I have seen granite counter tops in my travels through hotels that have had large chunks of iron in them.  Makes you want to have a geiger counter key chain or something...

Nate
Quote of http://www.verbouwtips.nl/keuken/granieten-aanrechtblad/(http://www.verbouwtips.nl/keuken/granieten-aanrechtblad/) in Dutch, sorry > google translate if interested.

Granite naturally contains a small amount (10 to 20 parts per million) radioactive uranium. Upon expiry of this uranium, small amounts of radiation. It is however to such small quantities that it only becomes a problem if your home is located on granite. One of the decay products of uranium is radioactive noble gas radon. This radioactive gas is in smoke after the largest cause of lung cancer. In the case of a standard kitchen sheet of a few centimetres thick, the amounts, however, so small, that the risk is zero. Ensure the security or for the ventilation of your kitchen is adequate, so the radon gas can not accumulate. For more information see the file radon gas from the Ministry of Environment.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: ~Russ on October 23rd, 2012, 10:54 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
Quote from firepinto on October 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM
I haven't been following along too close but I seen radon gas mentioned.  A possible source would be granite stone.  According to the Gov. Granite should be safe for counter tops because the stone isn't very porous.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/tenorm/granite-countertops.html&sa=U&ei=t2OFUJ-3A434qAG8i4DADQ&ved=0CCYQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHudX3zDVK7vVilMdK9CyElst_pWA

Thay tells me if you crush ganite into powder you may have a good source for radon gas.  I can say ill never be getting granite counter tops. :p

Nate
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?
forum is MyBB

yes downgrade back to 15 or something and it should be fine... we will need to find out why it did that...  then we can upgrade...

sorry for the inconvenience

~Russ
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 11:03 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 10:54 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
radon comes from the ground... so i would think after the stone is out of the ground it should not contain the radon???
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?
forum is MyBB

yes downgrade back to 15 or something and it should be fine... we will need to find out why it did that...  then we can upgrade...

sorry for the inconvenience

~Russ
Thanks Russ, gonna try it.


Radon is indeed present in the outer core of the reactor Keshe, since radon is abundant in the earth's crust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S8vr27plZs

Russ, I just tried Youtube video above to load but the tool did not work, but then I put the code manually.

This hyperlink is entered with the editor tool:
[undefined=undefined]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon[/undefined]

This one manually entered
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon)

Russ may I take the liberty to ask when you sleep. For me it is now 8.30 AM, your last replay is for me 07.57 AM. I think that we are in Belgium 7h ahead, that makes your replay was posted at 12:30 PM your time. You are incredibly passionate.:D:angel:
PS: I also have that problem. Sleep well.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: ~Russ on October 23rd, 2012, 11:57 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 11:03 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 10:54 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 AM
Quote from geert8550 on October 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM
A dangerous thing this Radon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
Russ there is something wrong with this editor, sometimes I can not post hyperlinks
i updated Firefox and all the function buttons are messed up... downgrade... for now that's our only potion.  what browser are you using?
I use the latest Firefox 16.0.1
is the forum platform of Joomla or Drupal?
forum is MyBB

yes downgrade back to 15 or something and it should be fine... we will need to find out why it did that...  then we can upgrade...

sorry for the inconvenience

~Russ
Thanks Russ, gonna try it.


Radon is indeed present in the outer core of the reactor Keshe, since radon is abundant in the earth's crust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S8vr27plZs

Russ, I just tried Youtube video above to load but the tool did not work, but then I put the code manually.

This hyperlink is entered with the editor tool:
[undefined=undefined]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon[/undefined]

This one manually entered
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon)

Russ may I take the liberty to ask when you sleep. For me it is now 8.30 AM, your last replay is for me 07.57 AM. I think that we are in Belgium 7h ahead, that makes your replay was posted at 12:30 PM your time. You are incredibly passionate.:D:angel:
PS: I also have that problem. Sleep well.
:)

i don't...

lol

i downgraded to firefox 12 and its all good... but i think up to 15 was good. don't know what happen but im looking in to it...

1:48 AM here

will go to bed some where around 9-10 AM and get up some where around 3-5pm ( if i'm lucky)  some days i get more sleep some days i don't get Anny...

lately i have been trying to " take some time off" lol what ever that is... but my brain just wont stop going...

blessings!! ~Russ
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Una on October 24th, 2012, 06:23 AM
Hi Geert,
sorry I was very busy lately...
How is your experiment with the coca cola botle?
I just wonder did you read this:
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2763
There are very well explained what is the kt liquid and some successfull experiments
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on October 24th, 2012, 06:24 AM
What the KT-liquid concerns that Keshe used, in my opinion this is radon containing lime (milky color) with water. The radon is released into the bottle after a while as an ionizing gas (gamma radiation). This is an electromagnetic radiation (slightly radioactive) which reacts to the copper molecules and thus developed electrical voltage.
Keshe told that it may take up to a month to make the liquid, this can come by the radon. It might take some time to gather enough concentrate.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: othelzer on October 27th, 2012, 04:39 PM

mechanic/gasturbine tech/welder/millwright/electricity and electronics

two points (A and B)
three observations #1,#2,#3

A.) External and internal  magnetic fluxuations have no effect upon electrical output of a unipolar generator (faraday motor/generator).
point#1 how could a centrifical field of gasious inert mass have interaction with a rotating magnetic field as a magnetic in situ , rotating has no effect to output?

B.) If what we have is a unipolar in a copper null.
point #2 would a homopolar/unipolar/faraday motor have a observable effect in a copper null field
point #3 my experence with lubrication oil centifical purifiers that push 7gpm@10,000 rpm tells me that the mass ejected can be construed as a electrolyte stripped of its electrons used to make work. would it then (is the point)be an exotic form of battery?

PHS(post haste script) the configuration resembles the unitron motor that is the motive force of the "normal "homegrown saucer design with a vacued inner torus that is spun - the rudimentry uderstanding of the opritive principal of this design is that the vacume is replete with zero point pool liquid and its centrafugle application dosent block but channels gravity exchange of aether exchange within our sphere (earth) causing ,lighter than air operation.
could this there for be a less efficent unitron with electro stripping capabilities?
thanks for the forum 1st time poster
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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on October 27th, 2012, 07:00 PM
Quote from othelzer on October 27th, 2012, 04:39 PM

mechanic/gasturbine tech/welder/millwright/electricity and electronics

two points (A and B)
three observations #1,#2,#3

A.) External and internal  magnetic fluxuations have no effect upon electrical output of a unipolar generator (faraday motor/generator).
point#1 how could a centrifical field of gasious inert mass have interaction with a rotating magnetic field as a magnetic in situ , rotating has no effect to output?

B.) If what we have is a unipolar in a copper null.
point #2 would a homopolar/unipolar/faraday motor have a observable effect in a copper null field
point #3 my experence with lubrication oil centifical purifiers that push 7gpm@10,000 rpm tells me that the mass ejected can be construed as a electrolyte stripped of its electrons used to make work. would it then (is the point)be an exotic form of battery?

PHS(post haste script) the configuration resembles the unitron motor that is the motive force of the "normal "homegrown saucer design with a vacued inner torus that is spun - the rudimentry uderstanding of the opritive principal of this design is that the vacume is replete with zero point pool liquid and its centrafugle application dosent block but channels gravity exchange of aether exchange within our sphere (earth) causing ,lighter than air operation.
could this there for be a less efficent unitron with electro stripping capabilities?
thanks for the forum 1st time poster
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Hi othelzer, Interesting hypothesis. :D Could you please though elaborate further on these topics with references. Also on the introduction part of the forum could you tell us a little about yourself and background, thank you so much, Jeff. :cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: badilator on November 5th, 2012, 06:33 AM
What are your sources guys?
I've read the book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matter" and I must say that I holded many hopes in it but I found it quite deluding.
It's quite a sort of romance about how pmtics interact, and my skeptical nature can't stop thinking that Star Trek give more in depth explanations on space ship travels with Dilithium reactors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilithium_(Star_Trek)

There are no tips on practical applications, not even for the coke bottle, and I found some ingenuity trying to explain some biological effects with pmtics interaction physic. He says that bacteria pmtics interact with human cells causing increasing in temperature in infections, that seems to me a big ignorance of how and why Fever is caused (I have a good biological/biochemical background) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fever , but that do not imply he is wrong in other fields, simply a bit of ingenuity trying to explain something out of his field of expertise.

Regarding the cola bottle experiment and the kt liquid, in the foundation forum there is nothing but users guesses.
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2763
Quite frustrating too, it should be a sort of proof of concept, and I did not even found a place where he describes step by step how to replicate it (what is fluid composition?)

Perhaps someone can help with some questions:
Why everybody is talking about KOH? Where can I find official papers that lead to that guess?
Using a CO2 rich liquid like the coke or gassed water is verified to facilitate the C formation on the nails? Or the nanomolecular C comes from the plastic of the bottle as well, as stated in the patents?
One of the patent says the cola bottle contains a source of electromagnetic waves and liquid hydrogen, I find it confusing...
Scintillation, I searched the book for this word with no occurrences, where is Keshe talking about it? Only in the patents?
The Chinese video is interesting, on what papers is based and from where does it come?

Can we put together a list of reference material, papers,docs,videos? I have:
Unifying theory:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMLUgyenJ0UHgyNmc
Patents:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQjN3U1ZqekVxbTg
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQklwdzMyNV9aRUU
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMUXVMaFJzVWdYMk0
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMVTF4Ti1LaVJpakk
CO2 Paper (not always available from foundation site, often u get a 500 error):
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMX3NvTU0yUlJ3VzA
And the 3 books, copyrighted I think so I will not post them.

By the way, the book is quite repetitive and, once understood the core concepts of pmtics interaction, lacks of any practical utility (in my opinion, but may be useful for others, I do not mean to be absolute).
Here in Italy there's a joke on politicians that they always forget the "paper of how", and from the book, some forum posts and some videos, I keep listening the same things about what we'll be able to do, but not how. So I hope I overlooked something, I missed some docs, some posts, some videos. Where are the papers of how? :)

PS: Perhaps a stupid question if you have already replicated the experiment, but can we exclude some sort of induction caused from a tesla coil out of camera in the experiment and a pulsating magnetic field inducting a sort of current in the copper nails, even to just start or catalyze the reaction of the CO2 forming the C sp2 sp3?

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Abbarue on November 6th, 2012, 12:40 PM
Perhaps the key to the solution is to first make some form of graphene coated wire, by standard ways.  Then use that graphene coated wire to convert CO2 into a liquid state.  Then the CO2 in liquid state is used as the solution to make more graphene coated wires the quick way.  Then use these to make more CO2 liquid.

So you need a starter solution first made the hard way.  Then you're on your way.
 I came to this conclusion because the pictures of the CO2 converter look like screens of graphene coated wire submerged in water.  

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on November 6th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Quote from badilator on November 5th, 2012, 06:33 AM
What are your sources guys?
I've read the book "The Universal Order of Creation of Matter" and I must say that I holded many hopes in it but I found it quite deluding.
It's quite a sort of romance about how pmtics interact, and my skeptical nature can't stop thinking that Star Trek give more in depth explanations on space ship travels with Dilithium reactors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilithium_(Star_Trek)

There are no tips on practical applications, not even for the coke bottle, and I found some ingenuity trying to explain some biological effects with pmtics interaction physic. He says that bacteria pmtics interact with human cells causing increasing in temperature in infections, that seems to me a big ignorance of how and why Fever is caused (I have a good biological/biochemical background) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fever , but that do not imply he is wrong in other fields, simply a bit of ingenuity trying to explain something out of his field of expertise.

Regarding the cola bottle experiment and the kt liquid, in the foundation forum there is nothing but users guesses.
http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2763
Quite frustrating too, it should be a sort of proof of concept, and I did not even found a place where he describes step by step how to replicate it (what is fluid composition?)

Perhaps someone can help with some questions:
Why everybody is talking about KOH? Where can I find official papers that lead to that guess?
Using a CO2 rich liquid like the coke or gassed water is verified to facilitate the C formation on the nails? Or the nanomolecular C comes from the plastic of the bottle as well, as stated in the patents?
One of the patent says the cola bottle contains a source of electromagnetic waves and liquid hydrogen, I find it confusing...
Scintillation, I searched the book for this word with no occurrences, where is Keshe talking about it? Only in the patents?
The Chinese video is interesting, on what papers is based and from where does it come?

Can we put together a list of reference material, papers,docs,videos? I have:
Unifying theory:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMLUgyenJ0UHgyNmc
Patents:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQjN3U1ZqekVxbTg
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMQklwdzMyNV9aRUU
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMUXVMaFJzVWdYMk0
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMVTF4Ti1LaVJpakk
CO2 Paper (not always available from foundation site, often u get a 500 error):
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9SSxWEoyvhMX3NvTU0yUlJ3VzA
And the 3 books, copyrighted I think so I will not post them.

By the way, the book is quite repetitive and, once understood the core concepts of pmtics interaction, lacks of any practical utility (in my opinion, but may be useful for others, I do not mean to be absolute).
Here in Italy there's a joke on politicians that they always forget the "paper of how", and from the book, some forum posts and some videos, I keep listening the same things about what we'll be able to do, but not how. So I hope I overlooked something, I missed some docs, some posts, some videos. Where are the papers of how? :)

PS: Perhaps a stupid question if you have already replicated the experiment, but can we exclude some sort of induction caused from a tesla coil out of camera in the experiment and a pulsating magnetic field inducting a sort of current in the copper nails, even to just start or catalyze the reaction of the CO2 forming the C sp2 sp3?
I agree, to open source and replicate we need handson information. What's been provided is still not up to practical standards.

Its wasting time this way.



Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on November 10th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Really? Hahaha, thx for Geert's good connexions!!

But knowing Russ it is now open source!!! Jippie!

Lets think up some practical ways to prove and use this technology!!

Good news, wouww, and lets find people who can translate Keshe..hahahaha into more understandable teachings and practical directions!!

This calls for a little celebration!!

Now we really need to connect Russ up with that measurement software guy and his link to some universities.



Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 08:42 PM
Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.
I agree with some of what you have said here dog-one, I don't want to explore the galaxy, but would like to travel the world. I think it's wishful thinking on Geert's part  and other's here, for this forum to have Keshe's tech. To, you are "very correct" we need some way to generate our own power. I do think this forum is the place to be to see this happen and think we, as a collective team, will achieve some great things with dedicated people like yourself and other's I see here. So please, keep up the hard fight, as I know you will, so that we can all have a better tomorrow. Thanks Dog-one.:cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 10:51 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
A joke and a bit of a dream.:D
Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.
The handover post of the K-key is a joke of course but a simple soul may have a dream now and then.
Indeed, we must stand with both feet on the ground and act rational. I try every day to search for novelties of the technology on the Internet, i wait as each of us until more is available. Meanwhile I read the books but until now there came out not much news. sometimes I need to read the same paragraph three times to understand what it is about, it reads thus very slow. I am sure that we are not much wiser to provide a reactor build by reading the books.
I'm parsing the last patent (wo2008113392) and translate to have a quicker clear view on the construction of the reactor (the English text is even worse than mine). A part of this information can be used to create a picture of the various reactors and their purpose.
According to the patent, the latest generation of reactors have a static inner core where the centrifugal effect of the noble gases is obtained by a pump system, This is their way to avoid mechanical wear in the reactor so the reactor itself does not require maintenance.
I try to make a summary for publishing but please have some patience.
I see there is a lot of interest to read this thread but I feel like I'm the only one who takes the trouble to analyze and summarize  the many information, any help is always welcome.
Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on November 11th, 2012, 01:38 AM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 10:51 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
A joke and a bit of a dream.:D
Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.
The handover post of the K-key is a joke of course but a simple soul may have a dream now and then.
Indeed, we must stand with both feet on the ground and act rational. I try every day to search for novelties of the technology on the Internet, i wait as each of us until more is available. Meanwhile I read the books but until now there came out not much news. sometimes I need to read the same paragraph three times to understand what it is about, it reads thus very slow. I am sure that we are not much wiser to provide a reactor build by reading the books.
I'm parsing the last patent (wo2008113392) and translate to have a quicker clear view on the construction of the reactor (the English text is even worse than mine). A part of this information can be used to create a picture of the various reactors and their purpose.
According to the patent, the latest generation of reactors have a static inner core where the centrifugal effect of the noble gases is obtained by a pump system, This is their way to avoid mechanical wear in the reactor so the reactor itself does not require maintenance.
I try to make a summary for publishing but please have some patience.
I see there is a lot of interest to read this thread but I feel like I'm the only one who takes the trouble to analyze and summarize  the many information, any help is always welcome.
Geert
You're doing a great job Geert, mucho kudos for that.

I for one don't have the money or the time to check out any of Keshe's books, my
"scientific exploration", for the time being anyway, is concentrated around the
works of Meyer et al.

Oh, well played btw :D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on November 11th, 2012, 05:11 AM
Geert you are doing a wonderful job, but I to am in a similar situation as Lynx. Thanks for all your hard work, Jeff.:cool::D:P  
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on November 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM
Quote from Lynx on November 11th, 2012, 01:38 AM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 10:51 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:

RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
A joke and a bit of a dream.:D
Quote from Dog-One on November 10th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on November 10th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Quote from geert8550 on November 10th, 2012, 01:24 AM
This may be a news item in the future:
RWGreasearch has received today the USB flash drive containing all patents and blueprints of the reactors of the Keshe Foundation spaceship program.:angel::D:P
Is this true Geert or is this a joke?:huh:
He is messing with you Jeff.  Keshe is only handing those out to government authorities, not folks like us.  There is a whole thread over at KF where people are begging Keshe to OpenSource his technology and he flatly refuses to do so because we would in effect blow ourselves up like tribal gangs.  The point was clearly made by a few forum posters that what Keshe is really doing is handing the technology to the criminal thugs known as government and that all the world will be greatly harmed using this tactic.  I personally disagree because I happen to believe most governments, especially ones with black budget projects, already have this technology and then some.

I don't know what angle Keshe is coming from, but I'm rather certain the group here on this forum could achieve some pretty great things if we are left alone to work together and make some of our experiments become reality.

Geert already has Keshe's three books and is probably willing to make them available to anyone that asks.  If you want to read them and build your own spaceship to Mars, be my guest.  Certainly nothing stopping you.  Myself, I'm not planning to live to be a 130 years old, so I'm doing my own thing for the time being.

Oh, and one other thing...  With the re-election/selection of Obama...   The coal fired power plant that serves my community is back on the table likely for closure during his next term in office.  Which means...   I need to get some power generation working pretty darn quick like.
The handover post of the K-key is a joke of course but a simple soul may have a dream now and then.
Indeed, we must stand with both feet on the ground and act rational. I try every day to search for novelties of the technology on the Internet, i wait as each of us until more is available. Meanwhile I read the books but until now there came out not much news. sometimes I need to read the same paragraph three times to understand what it is about, it reads thus very slow. I am sure that we are not much wiser to provide a reactor build by reading the books.
I'm parsing the last patent (wo2008113392) and translate to have a quicker clear view on the construction of the reactor (the English text is even worse than mine). A part of this information can be used to create a picture of the various reactors and their purpose.
According to the patent, the latest generation of reactors have a static inner core where the centrifugal effect of the noble gases is obtained by a pump system, This is their way to avoid mechanical wear in the reactor so the reactor itself does not require maintenance.
I try to make a summary for publishing but please have some patience.
I see there is a lot of interest to read this thread but I feel like I'm the only one who takes the trouble to analyze and summarize  the many information, any help is always welcome.
Geert
You're doing a great job Geert, mucho kudos for that.

I for one don't have the money or the time to check out any of Keshe's books, my
"scientific exploration", for the time being anyway, is concentrated around the
works of Meyer et al.

Oh, well played btw :D
If you want the book, send me a personal message.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on November 11th, 2012, 07:25 AM
Grumbllll stomme belg...;)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on November 11th, 2012, 07:42 AM
Quote from geert8550 on November 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM
If you want the book, send me a personal message.
That is an extremely generous offer of you Geert, I may just
do that sometime in the future ;)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on November 11th, 2012, 11:15 AM
Quote from geert8550 on November 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM
If you want the book, send me a personal message.
You are a good person Geert and I commend your patience in being able to follow the Keshe trail.

I do not know what age you are or how you perceive the flow of time--it does tend to make a difference in what things appear practical and what things are more intertwined in a dream.  As you get older the difference becomes more apparent, at least it has for me.  I can get up early and work on a project and just about the time I begin to feel well underway, it is already past sunset and the day is nearly over.  This same feeling manifests itself in weeks and months as well.  It becomes a race to see whether a project will see a final destination or me.  When I was a child, I did not notice this phenomena.  I lived in a perpetual now.  Mortality isn't something you read about in a book, it just happens; when it does you find yourself and you change your way of thinking, your focus shifts.  You realize time is your biggest enemy.

I truly hope you will find the enlightenment needed to understand and build a working Keshe reactor.  I also hope I will be around to share that most splendid day with you.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on November 14th, 2012, 03:44 PM
Quote from Dog-One on November 11th, 2012, 11:15 AM
Quote from geert8550 on November 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM
If you want the book, send me a personal message.
You are a good person Geert and I commend your patience in being able to follow the Keshe trail.

I do not know what age you are or how you perceive the flow of time--it does tend to make a difference in what things appear practical and what things are more intertwined in a dream.  As you get older the difference becomes more apparent, at least it has for me.  I can get up early and work on a project and just about the time I begin to feel well underway, it is already past sunset and the day is nearly over.  This same feeling manifests itself in weeks and months as well.  It becomes a race to see whether a project will see a final destination or me.  When I was a child, I did not notice this phenomena.  I lived in a perpetual now.  Mortality isn't something you read about in a book, it just happens; when it does you find yourself and you change your way of thinking, your focus shifts.  You realize time is your biggest enemy.

I truly hope you will find the enlightenment needed to understand and build a working Keshe reactor.  I also hope I will be around to share that most splendid day with you.
Aaawww..i'll search the net to find antioxidants and other stuff to get your age up to over a hundred Dog. So you will get your harts delite full of this worlds wonders and after this earthly stage we'll find eachother again and have a toast and think back on our lives here and are glad to live in love and have concurred the duality that is inherent to living on earth.

peace broh
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Ron on November 17th, 2012, 04:06 PM
Quote from geert8550 on October 22nd, 2012, 04:50 AM
Found this movie with Chinese text, know someone translate these words?

Keshe能源機模擬動畫 (Keshe energy machine simulation animation)

/watch?v=cwR4Cx_01R0
Keshe energy machine simulation animation translation Chinese to English:
I try to embed the english text.
But the text is larger than animation.
Tranlation see remarks
/watch?v=o2pGMLxi8hg(http:///watch?v=o2pGMLxi8hg)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on November 18th, 2012, 02:02 AM
Thanks for the translation Ron :cool:
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: hhostop@gmail.com on November 25th, 2012, 01:28 AM
Hello,
I am maybe wrong. I still can't understand idea behind of the coca-cola experiment. The only thing I can thing of is for covering wire with graphene for a power panels. But according to one of the interviews will need 50.000 - 70.000 layers of nano material. How many are on the wire? Here are some of my successful and fail experiments in short:
Simple pieces of wire bent on 90 degree ~1.5 in. and 2 L. coca cola bottle.
2 of the electrodes are with spiral shape - unfortunately no voltage or very low.
Primary I made liquid - distilled water - 59gr. (just over 2 oz.) and 3 gr. KOH.
In about an hour I got 7-9 mV to a different electrodes (I push 9 electrodes in the bottle, 4 in strait line on top, 2 on 90 degree counter clockwise and 1 clockwise. No electrode in the liquid. In 24 hours time - almost no graphene; After the first 24 hours I add 3% Hydrogen Peroxide 59gr. Voltage jump to 20 mV. In next 24 hours some graphene appear on the electrodes. In the next 24 hours I dip one of the electrodes in the liquid. Voltage drop to 7mV. In about 72 hours total voltage drop to almost 0, liquid still in the bottle.  

Fail:
55 gr coca cola; 55 gr dist. water; 3.5 gr KOH; 0.5l bottle, 1 bent, 3 strait electrodes 0.00V 3days
55 gr coca cola; 3.5 gr KOH; 0.5l bottle, 1 bent, 3 strait electrodes 0.00V, 3 days
Keep going with experiments...

For the plasma generator I have some questions and concerns. Any answers are highly appreciated.
1. Core spins. At the same time needs refill with hydrogen. That means hole and core should be in vacuum.
a. What kind of seal will work under spin and vacuum for 20-30 years? What kind of brushes will work for that period of time? What kind of bearings?
b. How much hydrogen you will need to power this unit? Hydrogen is difficult to store. Unless is made on demand trough electrolysis or some other way.

As reading the patents, there are at least 3 different kinds of reactors there. I read somewhere that core is stainless steel. Yes, but no... SS is quite successful shielding magnetic fields or at least dramatically dropping them down. I think starting the reactor is done by inserting radioactive rod inside. And sends me close to the idea of structure of 100 years old X-Rays with lamps.
Some other interesting reading - technology E-cat. Similar system, working with Ni and H and secret katalisator ...
 
Someone got somewhere with that replication?
Just my 2 cents...
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on December 9th, 2012, 05:43 AM
Back again

I did some testing with the copper nails wiche were covered with graphene in the previous test. Here are my findings and fotos. the time indication is shown on the file names of the images. Also available on my  facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1(http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1)

- 1 with graphene occupied copper nails
- 1 ordinary copper nail
- Room temperature: 13 ° c
- Liquid: tap water
- Test recording: 05h 09 min
- Voltage commencement: 60 mV
- After 1 min Voltage: 40 mV


- Voltage increases with effect from flash, on and off fluorescent light source gives affect the value.
- Voltage drops by to get closer with my hand, if take away my hand the voltage rises again.
- Problem: Voltage reacts whenever flash > + ~ 1mV> solution: shoot without flash> no effect of bombing photons (ionization?).
- Problem: Electrodes do not stay in place> solution: lid with electrodes
- Work with fixed light: fluorescent light source.

- Figure 01: initial test with artificial light (fluorescent light)
- Figure 02: after 30 min with artificial
- Figure 03: rise and fall> unstable?
- Figure 04: influence of magnetism human body (hand close)
- Figure 05: hand away.
- Figure 06: hand a little closer.
- Figure 07: Had light off, after 1h without artificial light.
- Figure 08: 8 min after turning on the fluorescent light source.
- Figure 09: Led light nearby.
- Figure 10: 10 min after power LED lamp.
- Figure 11: LED lamp closer.
- Figure 12: LED lamp off, results after 2 min.TL light stays on.
- Figure 13: After 1h with fluorescent light source> voltage stable at 28 mV.
- Figure 14: Influence of the values ​​clearly after flash.
- Figure 15: Closed transparent box with electrodes at a fixed distance.
- Figure 16: previous test with deeply submerged copper nail.
- Figure 17: next test> nail shallow submerged.
- Figure 18: less contact with copper nail> not changed value.
- Figure 19: less contact with graphene coating> impaired.
- Figure 20: Electrode with grafeenbekleding returned> value rises immediately.
- Figure 21: return value stabilized after 25 min
- Figure 22: Turning on LED Lamp> value rises immediately.
- Figure 23: off LED Lamp> value drops immediately.
- Figure 24: after 14min. remains stable value> 25.4 mV.

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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on December 9th, 2012, 05:41 PM
Quote from geert8550 on December 9th, 2012, 05:43 AM
Back again

I did some testing with the copper nails wiche were covered with graphene in the previous test. Here are my findings and fotos. the time indication is shown on the file names of the images. Also available on my  facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1(http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1)

- 1 with graphene occupied copper nails
- 1 ordinary copper nail
- Room temperature: 13 ° c
- Liquid: tap water
- Test recording: 05h 09 min
- Voltage commencement: 60 mV
- After 1 min Voltage: 40 mV


- Voltage increases with effect from flash, on and off fluorescent light source gives affect the value.
- Voltage drops by to get closer with my hand, if take away my hand the voltage rises again.
- Problem: Voltage reacts whenever flash > + ~ 1mV> solution: shoot without flash> no effect of bombing photons (ionization?).
- Problem: Electrodes do not stay in place> solution: lid with electrodes
- Work with fixed light: fluorescent light source.

- Figure 01: initial test with artificial light (fluorescent light)
- Figure 02: after 30 min with artificial
- Figure 03: rise and fall> unstable?
- Figure 04: influence of magnetism human body (hand close)
- Figure 05: hand away.
- Figure 06: hand a little closer.
- Figure 07: Had light off, after 1h without artificial light.
- Figure 08: 8 min after turning on the fluorescent light source.
- Figure 09: Led light nearby.
- Figure 10: 10 min after power LED lamp.
- Figure 11: LED lamp closer.
- Figure 12: LED lamp off, results after 2 min.TL light stays on.
- Figure 13: After 1h with fluorescent light source> voltage stable at 28 mV.
- Figure 14: Influence of the values ​​clearly after flash.
- Figure 15: Closed transparent box with electrodes at a fixed distance.
- Figure 16: previous test with deeply submerged copper nail.
- Figure 17: next test> nail shallow submerged.
- Figure 18: less contact with copper nail> not changed value.
- Figure 19: less contact with graphene coating> impaired.
- Figure 20: Electrode with grafeenbekleding returned> value rises immediately.
- Figure 21: return value stabilized after 25 min
- Figure 22: Turning on LED Lamp> value rises immediately.
- Figure 23: off LED Lamp> value drops immediately.
- Figure 24: after 14min. remains stable value> 25.4 mV.
This is cool Geert.:D
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: pogtech2007 on December 23rd, 2012, 08:50 PM
My test bottle has 8, #10 copper wires 5/8" long inside the bottle. Liquid is hydrogen peroxide with a pinch of sodium hydroxide. Bottle is in the upright position with the liquid at the bottom. Highest measured on any two wires 159MV in that position. Bottle has been laying around for 3 months now and measures about 50MV. If bottle is rolled and liquid gets on the wires volts jump up to 170MV on some wires. Dead shorting wires volts drop to zero and recover to their starting volts in a couple of seconds. I'm testing three bottles at the same time. One has 40 #10 wire 3/8" long, never got over 50MV, getting them wet from the liquid does not make higher volts??? The other bottle has 9 #10 wires over 4" long, never seemed to work at all or very low MV???
All the wires have a graphene coating on them, there has to be a relationship to the area of the inner surface of wire or plate to the wire to the outside. Too long didn't work, too short didn't work. If one could come up with the right size we will be on our way. Also the liquid will need to be redefined.  


Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on December 23rd, 2012, 09:27 PM
Quote from pogtech2007 on December 23rd, 2012, 08:50 PM
My test bottle has 8, #10 copper wires 5/8" long inside the bottle. Liquid is hydrogen peroxide with a pinch of sodium hydroxide. Bottle is in the upright position with the liquid at the bottom. Highest measured on any two wires 159MV in that position. Bottle has been laying around for 3 months now and measures about 50MV. If bottle is rolled and liquid gets on the wires volts jump up to 170MV on some wires. Dead shorting wires volts drop to zero and recover to their starting volts in a couple of seconds. I'm testing three bottles at the same time. One has 40 #10 wire 3/8" long, never got over 50MV, getting them wet from the liquid does not make higher volts??? The other bottle has 9 #10 wires over 4" long, never seemed to work at all or very low MV???
All the wires have a graphene coating on them, there has to be a relationship to the area of the inner surface of wire or plate to the wire to the outside. Too long didn't work, too short didn't work. If one could come up with the right size we will be on our way. Also the liquid will need to be redefined.
Very cool,:cool::D:P thanks for posting your findings, please continue.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on December 23rd, 2012, 09:43 PM
Quote from pogtech2007 on December 23rd, 2012, 08:50 PM
My test bottle has 8, #10 copper wires 5/8" long inside the bottle. Liquid is hydrogen peroxide with a pinch of sodium hydroxide. Bottle is in the upright position with the liquid at the bottom. Highest measured on any two wires 159MV in that position. Bottle has been laying around for 3 months now and measures about 50MV. If bottle is rolled and liquid gets on the wires volts jump up to 170MV on some wires. Dead shorting wires volts drop to zero and recover to their starting volts in a couple of seconds. I'm testing three bottles at the same time. One has 40 #10 wire 3/8" long, never got over 50MV, getting them wet from the liquid does not make higher volts??? The other bottle has 9 #10 wires over 4" long, never seemed to work at all or very low MV???
All the wires have a graphene coating on them, there has to be a relationship to the area of the inner surface of wire or plate to the wire to the outside. Too long didn't work, too short didn't work. If one could come up with the right size we will be on our way. Also the liquid will need to be redefined.
Ok, Pogtech2007, I'm glad there is someone else who experimented with this concept. In the text of the Keshe patent wo2008113392, page 28 line 13 to 40 is described next,
I quote;
Fig. 11 is a photo of a static plasma reactor, a cola bottle All which has three electrodes in the liquid and two in the upper layer (the plasma). The photo shows That between two copper electrodes a voltage is Measured. Next to the production of energy, Also atomic carbon (sp2 and sp3) is deposited on the electrodes and electrode parts All which in the plasma.

It is a pity that the pictures are unreadable. He tested with an electrode in the liquid, and one in the plasma. It is important that there is graphene is formed.
Only then you can continue. Have you also tried a bottle emptied? Is it stable after long time? Keshe also said that the liquid is non acidic and harmless.

To move on: Take a coated copper electrode and immerse them, only with the graphene, in ordinary tap water. Place it with an ordinary copper electrode and measure the values, they must not touch each other​​. See if the values ​​fall or rise with more or less light (photons). The more graphene surface the higher the values. Note that the graphene electrode is not too deep, the remaining copper may not be in the water.
Keep your experiments publishing, preferably with pictures so others can enjoy. thanks for your reply. Be careful with chemicals, take the necessary safety concerns.

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on January 19th, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sorry for the late posts. I'm busy with my RepRap 3D printer and make another pair. What Keshe the reactor, I am a member of a newly started Nedeland speaking group where ideas are bundled but I promise to regularly report to a brief post on this forum.
Annex A preliminary draft of the rapid closure of the reactor.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on January 19th, 2013, 12:17 PM
Quote from geert8550 on January 19th, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sorry for the late posts. I'm busy with my RepRap 3D printer and make another pair. What Keshe the reactor, I am a member of a newly started Nedeland speaking group where ideas are bundled but I promise to regularly report to a brief post on this forum.
Annex A preliminary draft of the rapid closure of the reactor.
Thanks Geert. So are you printing? Is this the complete outer case of the reactor, just aluminum?:D:cool::P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on January 22nd, 2013, 11:47 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on January 19th, 2013, 12:17 PM
Quote from geert8550 on January 19th, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sorry for the late posts. I'm busy with my RepRap 3D printer and make another pair. What Keshe the reactor, I am a member of a newly started Nedeland speaking group where ideas are bundled but I promise to regularly report to a brief post on this forum.
Annex A preliminary draft of the rapid closure of the reactor.
Thanks Geert. So are you printing? Is this the complete outer case of the reactor, just aluminum?:D:cool::P
This can come in handy for parts to print and it is very instructive. For the moment I make another Prusa and also an eventorbot.
Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on January 22nd, 2013, 11:51 AM
Quote from geert8550 on January 22nd, 2013, 11:47 AM
Quote from Jeff Nading on January 19th, 2013, 12:17 PM
Quote from geert8550 on January 19th, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sorry for the late posts. I'm busy with my RepRap 3D printer and make another pair. What Keshe the reactor, I am a member of a newly started Nedeland speaking group where ideas are bundled but I promise to regularly report to a brief post on this forum.
Annex A preliminary draft of the rapid closure of the reactor.
Thanks Geert. So are you printing? Is this the complete outer case of the reactor, just aluminum?:D:cool::P
This can come in handy for parts to print and it is very instructive. For the moment I make another Prusa and also an eventorbot.
Geert
Geert upload some photos or a video, :cool::D:P when you have time.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on January 25th, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jeff, foto's of de printer are on my FB http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1(http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1)

I just found a video of a spectator of the Italian lecture where the full reactor was displayed, enjoy.
Screenshots:
[attachment=3114][attachment=3115][attachment=3116]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjHKy6Hmxwo
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on February 18th, 2013, 11:01 AM
For the moment I have some parts for the reactor, such as the half-spheres (ø15 cm) and a stainless steel tube, next week the flanges. The printed magnetic head is ready to make the first vacuum test.
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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on February 18th, 2013, 04:35 PM
Quote from geert8550 on February 18th, 2013, 11:01 AM
For the moment I have some parts for the reactor, such as the half-spheres (ø15 cm) and a stainless steel tube, next week the flanges. The printed magnetic head is ready to make the first vacuum test.
Very cool Geert.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on February 18th, 2013, 04:58 PM
Quote from Jeff Nading on February 18th, 2013, 04:35 PM
Quote from geert8550 on February 18th, 2013, 11:01 AM
For the moment I have some parts for the reactor, such as the half-spheres (ø15 cm) and a stainless steel tube, next week the flanges. The printed magnetic head is ready to make the first vacuum test.
Very cool Geert.
Yes, it does appear you know what you are doing.  Can hardly wait to see what kind of results you get.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Gunther Rattay on February 19th, 2013, 02:04 AM
Quote from geert8550 on February 18th, 2013, 11:01 AM
For the moment I have some parts for the reactor, such as the half-spheres (ø15 cm) and a stainless steel tube, next week the flanges. The printed magnetic head is ready to make the first vacuum test.
good job so far! not easy to start from ground up.

good luck!

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: edxhemphill on February 19th, 2013, 08:04 AM
Has any body seen the keshe device work ,heal,lavatate or any measurement of electricity ,heat. After following John Rohner way to long .talks cheap.I'm not saying he can't do all those things but I haven't seen it Ed Hemphill
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on February 19th, 2013, 10:44 PM
If there is something to this, geenee will find it.  If nothing else, he might be able to wrap his head around the concept enough to explain to the rest of us, the pieces that we are missing.  From there, chances are good it will help at least one of us get over a hurdle.  I will say though Ed, I would sure like to have once of those operational 5KW generators in my garage to play with.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: ~Russ on February 19th, 2013, 11:42 PM
Quote from geert8550 on February 18th, 2013, 11:01 AM
For the moment I have some parts for the reactor, such as the half-spheres (ø15 cm) and a stainless steel tube, next week the flanges. The printed magnetic head is ready to make the first vacuum test.
nice work!! looking forward to your tests. ( where you get there!!)

nice halbach array(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array)

i see there maid from printed parts!! :)  nice!!

~Russ
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on February 24th, 2013, 03:09 AM
The progress is slow. I hope this week to receive my flanges. In any case, some pictures of my progress with the magnetic head and the reactor.
To be clear, there are no flanges yet.
[attachment=3360]
The rotor mounted
[attachment=3361]
Proposed place for magnets for magnetic coupling so that the vacuum area is completely separated.
[attachment=3362]
magnethead in place
[attachment=3363]

This is my concept, similar to that of Keche. This is still in development. Provisionally with 1 core, later with an inner core or a half sphere. The model allows different concepts without changing the entire reactor. Are there any tips you guys???
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on February 24th, 2013, 03:37 PM
What you have so far looks every bit as nice as what Mr. Keshe himself is probably using.

Soon you should have a Caroline core ready for some action.

Very nice.  Thanks for keeping us in the loop with your progress.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: ~Russ on February 24th, 2013, 04:57 PM
Quote from geert8550 on February 24th, 2013, 03:09 AM
The progress is slow. I hope this week to receive my flanges. In any case, some pictures of my progress with the magnetic head and the reactor.
To be clear, there are no flanges yet.

The rotor mounted

Proposed place for magnets for magnetic coupling so that the vacuum area is completely separated.

magnethead in place


This is my concept, similar to that of Keche. This is still in development. Provisionally with 1 core, later with an inner core or a half sphere. The model allows different concepts without changing the entire reactor. Are there any tips you guys???
I honestly have know idea if this device will work but all I can say is that what your making Is grate! Keep it up! Looking really good!!!  

~Russ
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on February 26th, 2013, 10:12 AM
Flanges finished and ready to be welded.

[attachment=3389]
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on February 26th, 2013, 05:19 PM
Quote from geert8550 on February 26th, 2013, 10:12 AM
Flanges finished and ready to be welded.
Maybe it's just the perspective of that image, but it appears the large flanges are much too big.  Guess I'll have to see it after it's welded.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on February 27th, 2013, 10:51 AM
Dog-one there is nothing wrong with the flanges, just an optical illusion. At this moment I am a ferrofluid seal to the design to use with the reactor. This makes it possible to work with an extremely high vacuum to 10E-9 mbar.
[attachment=3390]
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on February 27th, 2013, 05:08 PM
Quote from geert8550 on February 27th, 2013, 10:51 AM
Dog-one there is nothing wrong with the flanges, just an optical illusion. At this moment I am a ferrofluid seal to the design to use with the reactor. This makes it possible to work with an extremely high vacuum to 10E-9 mbar.
I was hoping you would say that.

Keep at it Geert.  You are the only person that has given me a real sense of what a Keshe reactor even looks like.  Can hardly wait to see what it does.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on February 28th, 2013, 05:24 AM
Ready to weld.

[attachment=3391][attachment=3392]

I'm usually active Keshe group forum. I try to post my progress and findings further on this forum because Russ and many others have encouraged me to technology and science publishing through open source and in this way to inform other people.
You can follow me in the "Dutch" in the forum of Kesh. To post you must be logged.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 1st, 2013, 08:31 AM
The prototype Keshe plasma reactor. Now a viewport and an input for the gases.


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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on March 1st, 2013, 05:58 PM
Come on guys, you all seeing this thing?  Is that impressive or what?

Geert, if this device does what you are hoping for, how likely would you be able to source parts for other people to replicate?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 1st, 2013, 09:59 PM
It is the intention, when all problems have been solved, a few copies to make up for my study group so that we can perform tests on an equal basis. Later we'll see, it's still a long way. Keshe has done about 20 years to reach his seventh generation reactors to come. For now it remains within the selected group (and on this forum), and who therefore is registered, if the reactor chamber is ready, all the findings will be posted on the general forum and on this to achieve the greatest possible public.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on March 2nd, 2013, 12:54 AM
Good luck Geert and remember to keep safe while experimenting, better to expect real nasty things coming from the plasma and
try to protect yourself accordingly.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Iron Horse on March 2nd, 2013, 09:13 AM
This is excellent work Geert. A very good piece of engineering. Well done and good luck with the future experiments. I am looking forward to your future posts.

Kind regards,
Malcolm.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: firepinto on March 2nd, 2013, 10:10 AM
This is excellent craftsmanship Geert.  If by chance that it does not work, I would still consider this to be a piece of art.  Cant wait to see what these reactors are all about. :cool:

Nate
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 2nd, 2013, 10:22 AM
Thanks guys for your supportive comments. I try to work step by step and try to consult with the people of the study group. These steps are also posted here.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 10th, 2013, 05:30 AM
I did my first movie. This video is about 3D-printing creation of a support base for the Keshe plasma reactor, which still only a vacuum chamber. I have the setup ready for the first vacuum leak test. Video Reports follow.
Enjoy.
/watch?v=30-NVN0ksdg
http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1(http://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Gunther Rattay on March 13th, 2013, 01:53 PM
Keshe online teaching program: please scroll down after the link ...

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?1840-The-first-public-workshop-teaching-program


Keshe explains details about reactor built: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=OjsmlYhL2Wo


https://vimeo.com/61482675#at=0
https://vimeo.com/61474464#at=0

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 16th, 2013, 11:51 PM
Here the first four videos of Rick with the first public lectures with Mr. Keshe.

part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjsmlYhL2Wo

part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlht1Lg2IcY

Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OQBNmJTYKA

Part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTiilBccqnc

Enjoy
Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: spinducor on March 17th, 2013, 06:52 AM
Thanks gert8550 and everyone,  The reactor apparatus is remarkable, thanks for sharing!

My post is to address health effects of "radiation exposure"

We may find assertions that the worlds biggest scam covers up the safety of various radiation manifestations, especially ones which have been declared deadly!  (Falsely declared is the assertion).  

Ionizing radiation, no doubt means harmfully distorting matter and therefore harming health...
Yet, apparently Galen Windsor goes into details about he and colleagues handled plutonium and  swam in reactor pools! (wow)  [??]  Yet much bigger fish are fried in this video! The associated implications are staggering and i heard plenty, put on hold...  There might be two videos on Galen, (not sure myself), here is one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA

A very interesting, old, taped--video interview is the focus... He may have been the first whistle blower, as he appears to have been an expert in this field and he blew the whistle decades ago...  How did we miss this, (lack of www?)

On a different note, certain claims of ancient lore, claim healing benefits from natural-state radiation in caves, found-minerals, etc... This underlies the modern subject which can be web searched under terms like: "radiation hormesis".  

Discernment is recommended.  I make no claims myself and want to learn by contrasting deep assessments.

Back to Dr Keshe, here is an interview wherein he is asked a little about health effects of radiation....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUH77PtVvm8

Relative safety is discussed and examples are given....
"... (vitamin) B-12 is a nuclear material...."   around  9:30 minutes  ...etc
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 23rd, 2013, 06:33 AM
Update:
Installation is simplified by working with flexible piping and a collector with plug connectors. The vacuum achieved according to the meter to 98 to 99% vacuum, a very good result, I would say. Next update: a homemade ferrofluid rotation feed-through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW2YZUxdBI0
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on March 23rd, 2013, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the update Geert, good luck (http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s566/4lynx4/Fun/smile.png)

Btw, good to see and hear you (http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s566/4lynx4/Fun/grin.gif)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on March 26th, 2013, 05:39 AM
Quote from Lynx on March 23rd, 2013, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the update Geert, good luck (http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s566/4lynx4/Fun/smile.png)

Btw, good to see and hear you (http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s566/4lynx4/Fun/grin.gif)
Nice work Geert!

I wonder how are you able to look into the process going on with the next tests?
If you are putting in ferrofluids, are you then trying to turn them inside with a rotating magnetic field?
What are the next logical steps you are going to do and how can you see proof of
success?

Are you understanding what you need to build and how it looks if it works and can you explain that process a bit for the readers who find Kesh difficult to follow?

Thx




Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on March 31st, 2013, 08:50 AM
Hola Amigos el sistema idea por el señor keshe tiene bastante semejanza con el sistema ideado por otis t. carr, estoy convencido que en ambos se utiliza plasma rotatorio creando una especie de vortice donde este transforma la energia del punto cero en otro tipo de energias asimilables por nuestra tecnologia.

si mediante un campo magnético y un campo electrico podemos generar un fluido de plasma en movimiento, si consiguieramos dotar a este plasma de las caracteristicas propias de un vortice quizas este podria "auto-sostenerse" como lo hacen los tornados terrestres siempre que haya energía termica disponible a su alrededor.  

Creo que entre todos podemos aunar esfuerzos mentales e ideas y empezar por el plasma, un saludo y perdonen por la traducción del señor google

Hello Friends system Mr. Keshe idea has enough resemblance to the system devised by Otis t. Carr, I am convinced that in both rotating plasma is used creating a vortex where this becomes the zero point energy in other energy assimilated by our technology.

if by a magnetic field and an electric field can generate a plasma fluid in motion, if we could give this plasma on the characteristics of a vortex maybe this could "self-sustained" as do terrestrial tornadoes thermal energy whenever there available around you.

I think we can all join forces and start mentally and ideas by the plasma, greetings and sorry for the translation of Mr. google

(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/tornad10.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=727&u=17912329)

http://youtu.be/6qTKUOInt0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7poSycHaBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGkdl-bsk2k
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on April 1st, 2013, 12:11 PM
Update on the building of the Keshe plasma reactor, enjoy.
If there are comments or tips, then like your feadback, thank you.
/watch?v=OTeN7wyWJa4
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on April 2nd, 2013, 01:30 PM

Hello Friend, I think it is a good choice because this metal sphere is conducting current, it is assumed that within the area there is a rotating plasma with different densities, when you need to energize the plasma initially ionize indoor air, after passing an electric current and a magnetic field to rotate the plasma by Lorentz law
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on April 2nd, 2013, 10:58 PM
Hello antigravitisystems1,
I see that you also Keshe technology follows. According to the patent, the center core is described as copper sphere, but I think Keshe a stainless steel ball used as there are more things different than what is described in the patent.
The sphere I use is ø150 mm, as I understand from the texts and other information than the inner core should be ø80 mm. What do you think?

Geert
At the moment I test different possibilities to make a rotating feed trough without vacuum loss.I think later post a video reportDo you have tips for the use of materials, construction and assembly?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on April 3rd, 2013, 02:23 PM
Yo voy a probar con vidrio duralex, ya estoy haciendo los preparativos como vas a ver en las imagenes, creo que es bueno poder observar lo que "se cuece en el interior" desde mi punto de vista que puedo estar equivocado yo empezaría probando con mercurio vapor y atmosfera de hidrogeno, creo que lo importante es saber hacer rotar las diferentes bolas de plasma dentro de la esfera, quizas puede ser interesante probar con plasma de mercurio pues es fácil observar los resultados al aplicar campos magneticos y electricos, me parece muy interesante tu trabajo, hace falta mas gente como tu, sigue así, un abrazo desde "valencia" españa  

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I'm going to try Duralex glass, I'm making preparations as you will see in the pictures, I think it's good to see what that "cooked inside" from my point of view I can be wrong I would start testing with mercury steam and hydrogen atmosphere, I think it is important to know the different rotating plasma balls inside the sphere, perhaps it may be interesting to test mercury plasma it is easy to see the results of using electric and magnetic fields, it seems very interesting your job, we need more people like you, go on, a hug from "valence" Spain

(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3426.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=728&u=17912329)


si dentro de tu esfera de cobre deseas crear plasma va a ser imposible pues cortocircuit la corriente.

tu debes de poder meter corriente continua primeramente de alta tensión y frecuencia para cebar el arco y despues debes de meter corriente continua para crear un arco estable de plasma, despues uno o varios campos magnéticos hacen rodar el plasma gracias a las fuerzas de Lorentz..

Lo importante es saber hacer rotar el plasma dentro de la esfera, y a gran velocidad, el plasma al rotar se "polariza" es decir que todas sus particulas empiezan a trabajar al unisono es decir a la vez, de esa forma podemos actuar sobre todas las particulas a la vez como si fueran un solo atomo.

saludo

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if in your area want to create plasma copper will be impossible for the current Cortocircuit.

you should be able to get first DC high voltage and frequency to prime the arc and then you should get current to create a stable arc plasma, after one or more magnetic fields they roll through the plasma Lorentz forces ..

What matters is to rotate the plasma inside the sphere, and at high speed, the rotating plasma is "polarized" meaning that all its particles begin to work together ie at a time, that way we can act on all particles at once as if they were a single atom.

greeting


(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3427.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=729&u=17912329)

detalle del pasamuros electrico, falta apretar y sellar con pasta de silicona roja.

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electrical feedthroughs detail, lack tighten and seal with silicone paste red:idea:
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on April 4th, 2013, 07:04 AM
Good work.Keep us informed with your progress, perhaps with a video.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on April 8th, 2013, 12:54 PM
Quote from geert8550 on April 4th, 2013, 07:04 AM
Good work.Keep us informed with your progress, perhaps with a video.
(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3428.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=730&u=17912329)
modified canning pot
(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3429.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=731&u=17912329)

(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3430.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=732&u=17912329)

(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3431.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=733&u=17912329)

Al final no he podido utilizar las ensaladeras de pyrex por problemas con el vacio.  

Ahora he podido observar que aguanta muy bien el vacio este bote de conservas, lo mas importante es que ya he podido ionizar el aire a baja presión

Tambien es importante que he podido crear plasma posteriormente.  

Para crear plasma primero ionizar con alta tensión y frecuencia y despues hacer pasar corriente electrica continua de baja tensión.

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At the end I could not use the pyrex bowls by problems with the vacuum.

Now I could see that empty stands up very well preserved this boat, the most important is that I have been able to ionize the air at low pressure

It is also important that I could create subsequent plasma.

To create first ionized plasma with frequency and high voltage electric current after passing low voltage DC.

(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/estudi14.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=734&u=17912329)

This is the electronic circuit I use to ionize the gas primarily by high frequency and voltage and then using low voltage DC
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on April 9th, 2013, 05:49 AM
(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3432.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=735&u=17912329)

(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3433.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=736&u=17912329)

(http://i76.servimg.com/u/f76/17/91/23/29/cimg3434.jpg)(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=737&u=17912329)
Detalle del bote de conservas cuyo interior se ha sometido a un vacio de 15mbar y se ha conectado UNICAMENTE el sistema de ionización auxiliar.

Mediante el circuito que no puede funcionar como lo he diseñado, ionizo previamente el gas a baja presión con alta tensión y elevada frecuencia de corriente alterna 24khz y SIMULTANEAMENTE le meto corriente continua por los mismos electrodos, unos 300 voltios aproximadamente, de esta forma consigo crear plasma caliente en su interior.

Hoy por hoy el propósito de estas configuraciones es ganar experiencia a la hora de manejar los plasmas electricos, el propósito último es crear un vortice de plasma, algo parecido a un mini-tornado de plasma en un bote de conservas  :lol:  

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1C4Md97CYY&feature=youtu.be

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on April 13th, 2013, 03:38 PM
http://youtu.be/9KUz1P94Q-o
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on April 23rd, 2013, 09:05 AM
The first Keshe reactor shown in public.

[attachment=3634][attachment=3635][attachment=3636]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXZcIGo9uWY
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on April 23rd, 2013, 09:53 AM
Thanks for sharing!

Is there any clip of it in action?
What kind of energy/effect does it put out and whats the ratio between energy/effect input versus output?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: SHAMANGELIC on April 23rd, 2013, 03:00 PM
Where and when did this viewing take place?  I was hoping Mr. Keshe would have been at the International Inventors Conference in Geneva earlier this month.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on April 25th, 2013, 02:03 AM
This is my idea of ​​how the Keshe reactor could be built.

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Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on May 12th, 2013, 09:09 AM
Still building the outer core. This is rotative, now a frame. Then a separate rotative inner core.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on May 13th, 2013, 11:11 AM
A quick update about building the Keshe reactor.
Geert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbg3W70XhtE&feature=youtu.be
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on May 13th, 2013, 11:14 AM
Thanks Geert, keep up the good work (http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s566/4lynx4/Fun/thumbsup.gif)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on May 24th, 2013, 10:02 AM
Have any of you all followed John Keely?  I ask because I stumbled upon this web page:
http://www.svpvril.com/

(http://www.svpvril.com/Atlin2001.gif)
(http://www.svpvril.com/Symael-1.jpg)
(http://www.svpvril.com/Altea1.JPG)
(http://www.svpvril.com/images/Alcea.1.JPG)

And the similarities to these devices and what Geert is building is amazing.  Makes me wonder if Keshe is just following along the footsteps of previous inventors.

Another very interesting link:
http://pondscienceinstitute.on-rev.com/svpwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Dynaspheric+Force
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on May 31st, 2013, 04:07 AM
Maybe this is a help to the people who want to carry out tests with a "dynamic plasma reactor" (Cola bottle reactor).
Excuse me for my poor English.

/watch?v=VDfrpku0P_E
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: spoocke on May 31st, 2013, 03:36 PM
just a fast draw out in solidworks.
http://imageshack.us/f/850/reactoranode.jpg/

i think i know what he means with getting into the plasma field.

if you create the plasma buble.
like you do in the plasma ball.
you just need to get two more components in.
one isolator.
and then a inox like rod wich will catch the ellektrons.
inside the plasma field.
do note that it needs a massa point wich you can regulate in distance toward the rod.
this would allow regulation of its output.
this catch rod is the middle one in the drawing.
then a ceramic isolator.
then the anode.
then again a ceramic isolator.
then you have the carige cage of the magnets holding also the cathodes.
if you do a mirror image of this system you will have a more powerfull extraction.
 
this is just a idea so please be kind with comments.
cheers :)

ps :btw geert am building a lil cnc mill.
if you need serten parts ill be able to make them soon.
even in titanium if needed.
 and am from belgium so .
also i have a awesome idea for a beter seal but for that ill need my 4th cnc axis.
to spoil it a bit.
i could cut a inox ring in the right dimmentions.
then friction turn it to make it a 100% seal fit.

greetings
groetjes
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on May 31st, 2013, 10:40 PM
Ok, I sent you a message. I would like to work together.
Quote from spoocke on May 31st, 2013, 03:36 PM
just a fast draw out in solidworks.
http://imageshack.us/f/850/reactoranode.jpg/

i think i know what he means with getting into the plasma field.

if you create the plasma buble.
like you do in the plasma ball.
you just need to get two more components in.
one isolator.
and then a inox like rod wich will catch the ellektrons.
inside the plasma field.
do note that it needs a massa point wich you can regulate in distance toward the rod.
this would allow regulation of its output.
this catch rod is the middle one in the drawing.
then a ceramic isolator.
then the anode.
then again a ceramic isolator.
then you have the carige cage of the magnets holding also the cathodes.
if you do a mirror image of this system you will have a more powerfull extraction.
 
this is just a idea so please be kind with comments.
cheers :)

ps :btw geert am building a lil cnc mill.
if you need serten parts ill be able to make them soon.
even in titanium if needed.
 and am from belgium so .
also i have a awesome idea for a beter seal but for that ill need my 4th cnc axis.
to spoil it a bit.
i could cut a inox ring in the right dimmentions.
then friction turn it to make it a 100% seal fit.

greetings
groetjes
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: spoocke on June 1st, 2013, 05:35 AM
Quote from geert8550 on May 31st, 2013, 10:40 PM
Ok, I sent you a message. I would like to work together.
Quote from spoocke on May 31st, 2013, 03:36 PM
just a fast draw out in solidworks.
http://imageshack.us/f/850/reactoranode.jpg/

i think i know what he means with getting into the plasma field.

if you create the plasma buble.
like you do in the plasma ball.
you just need to get two more components in.
one isolator.
and then a inox like rod wich will catch the ellektrons.
inside the plasma field.
do note that it needs a massa point wich you can regulate in distance toward the rod.
this would allow regulation of its output.
this catch rod is the middle one in the drawing.
then a ceramic isolator.
then the anode.
then again a ceramic isolator.
then you have the carige cage of the magnets holding also the cathodes.
if you do a mirror image of this system you will have a more powerfull extraction.
 
this is just a idea so please be kind with comments.
cheers :)

ps :btw geert am building a lil cnc mill.
if you need serten parts ill be able to make them soon.
even in titanium if needed.
 and am from belgium so .
also i have a awesome idea for a beter seal but for that ill need my 4th cnc axis.
to spoil it a bit.
i could cut a inox ring in the right dimmentions.
then friction turn it to make it a 100% seal fit.

greetings
groetjes
ill be happy to help were ever i can.
do note am compleetly new to htis.
but i have a basic understanding of what is going on.

now.
you always hear him talking about of getting in the plasma.
look inside your body.
and look at the cosmos how it works.

the energy comes from the out side into the the middle.
it creates energy in the center
and heat.

like in the stumach and like lungs wich he claims expel the carbon.
you also hear him say its the ellektron of the carbon nukelius wivh gets ionized.
look at the bottle experiment.
were does the carbon go to??
en becomes of the intense heat in the middle section the rod will burn it self cleane again.
thats the idea i have behind it.
if it makes any sence to you guys.

greetings
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: spoocke on June 1st, 2013, 07:19 AM
a other design.
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/584/halfsphereinfo2.jpg)(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/halfsphereinfo2.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us(http://imageshack.us)

do note that the open inox ( stainless steel ) ring gets its tention from a V block wich will pull it self into the open inox ring like a wig.
you could also make a closed ring and make tention with the outer sphere ring.
but from my point of view it could deform the sphere when the tention is not applied in a regular manner.
the v block system overcomes that issue.

greetings
Andrew

a other update.
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6146/halfsphere2withinfo.jpg
site for perimstopts or in frence bourage


update http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6146/halfsphere2withinfo.jpg
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: spoocke on June 2nd, 2013, 01:07 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img163/3413/vacumkogellagersysteem.th.png)(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/vacumkogellagersysteem.png/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img585/6893/2dspheredimentions.th.png)(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/2dspheredimentions.png/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img5/9692/calculatedhalfsphere.th.png)(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/calculatedhalfsphere.png/)

tomorrow ill look into a way to keep the vacum tube static.
and still have a vacum pulling force will it turning got a good idea how to do this already but it will become clear once i disign it in solidworks.
greetings
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: spoocke on June 2nd, 2013, 05:22 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img198/3987/vacuumrestainthousingwi.th.png)(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/vacuumrestainthousingwi.png/)

there ya go geert.
hope you like it.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on June 20th, 2013, 02:06 PM
Hey
This is another quick update about the building of the Keshe plasma reactor.

The polies and DC motor are mounted. This is just an outer core (single core) without central kolom.Met this concept is working to open a plasma. The core is already quite balanced but still needs to be updated a little. I have not been able to measure the speed but I think between 2500 and 3000 r / min. The core is placed under vacuum with ordinary air, so no added noble gases. This is an ordinary test to check the safety of the system.
enjoy
Geert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2nOchEEgo&feature=youtu.be
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on July 7th, 2013, 06:12 AM
Quote from geert8550 on June 20th, 2013, 02:06 PM
Hey
This is another quick update about the building of the Keshe plasma reactor.

The polies and DC motor are mounted. This is just an outer core (single core) without central kolom.Met this concept is working to open a plasma. The core is already quite balanced but still needs to be updated a little. I have not been able to measure the speed but I think between 2500 and 3000 r / min. The core is placed under vacuum with ordinary air, so no added noble gases. This is an ordinary test to check the safety of the system.
enjoy
Geert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2nOchEEgo&feature=youtu.be
I like it Geert, it's an awesome build you have. Have you been able to advance any further? Another question I have is about "Graphene", I've posted some information about it here,
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1281
Is this the same graphene produced by the coke bottle experiment? Thanks and keep up the good work, Jeff.:cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on July 17th, 2013, 09:28 AM
Last video update about the feedthrough problem of a spinning vacuum chamber.
Enjoy
Geert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gXL0L9K6ig&feature=youtu.be
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on July 25th, 2013, 06:54 AM
By request of many, I still get the opportunity to donate to the project. I thank the people who have so far contributed together and believe that this technology is real.
http://www.gofundme.com/3osfl0

Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on July 27th, 2013, 02:22 PM
Quote from geert8550 on July 17th, 2013, 09:28 AM
Last video update about the feedthrough problem of a spinning vacuum chamber.
Enjoy
Geert
Hi Geert, nice produkt your making, looking good.

In this video it seems to hold the vacuum. As i think of the properties of the turning valve, i hope that it doesn't warm up. Maybe (because its outside the chamber) you can lube it also a bit on the inside, or let it spin along with the chamber ones you reached vacuum. And if you need more vacuum, rotate a bit less, pump out and let it loose again? This to save stress on the turning valve.

But if these valve's hold up for the job, you could use a second one for the innerchamber?

(Even if they are build for 1200 rpm...if you couple two or more, you (could in theory) devide the rpms... 3 spinning at 1200 in line with each other is as one spinning with 3600 rpm..:-)
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on August 25th, 2013, 05:53 AM
New update: Garlock PS-seals and new gasfeedtrhrough

Enjoy
Geert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEI5VJnREFQ
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 16th, 2013, 01:43 PM
The first test with the team in preparation for the next public teaching on Thursday, September 19, 2013.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv7AAigqg3M
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on September 16th, 2013, 02:04 PM
How operational is it at this stage?
Does it generate any useful energy in the coil?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on September 25th, 2013, 05:30 PM
apparently the coil is shorted on itself ... therefore not be used as a transformer secondary .... I understand that the recorded energy is of the order of microamps..

The big question .. electrical plasma is created inside the sphere???  

used lorentz forces sometime plasma to rotate internally???


sorry for the bad translation online: Huh:

Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on September 30th, 2013, 02:43 AM
Hi antigraviticsystems1
the coil is only to detect a flux or a magnetic field. the project is still unfinished and not working, there are still problems to maintain trough between the feed pipe and the casing while spinning a high vacuum. This is the difficulty with which everyone has to face.
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on October 14th, 2013, 11:56 AM
Geert estimated! ... why not try entering the metal sphere into a vacuum bell??? when there is an insurmountable obstacle you have to think of other ways, Greetings
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on December 1st, 2013, 09:26 AM
System almost ready, test run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gTBxzQlRRw
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Matt Watts on December 1st, 2013, 08:32 PM
Quote from geert8550 on December 1st, 2013, 09:26 AM
System almost ready, test run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gTBxzQlRRw
That sure is some precision work there Geert.

You mentioned the signals on the scope where an indication of a plasma within the reactor sphere.  Do the frequencies correspond with a particular type of plasma?  And are the steps you took to achieve those signals repeatable?
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on December 5th, 2013, 04:19 AM
Quote from FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info
Hi guys
Here some explanation of what I'm trying to do.
It's just a rotary vacuum chamber where some types of gas are present in very small quantity. There is no electrical supply is present inside, only the gases. The gases have layers and they do as they spin in a vacuum environment (they react as a liquid). the ratio of different gases must now be tested. at some point certain layers begin to exchange electrones which give responses in the form of magnetic fields.  When this lasts long enough in a particular circumstance, then open up a plasma (such Keshe calls it).
The coil around the sphere only serves as a detector of magnetic fields and not to drain Voltage as many suspect.
This is only the beginning and the concept still needs to be further developed.
Thus, the main purpose of these tests is the opening of a plasma, for the time being nothing else.
Best regards
Geert
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on December 5th, 2013, 03:00 PM
Quote from geert8550 on December 5th, 2013, 04:19 AM
Quote from FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info
Hi guys
Here some explanation of what I'm trying to do.
It's just a rotary vacuum chamber where some types of gas are present in very small quantity. There is no electrical supply is present inside, only the gases. The gases have layers and they do as they spin in a vacuum environment (they react as a liquid). the ratio of different gases must now be tested. at some point certain layers begin to exchange electrones which give responses in the form of magnetic fields.  When this lasts long enough in a particular circumstance, then open up a plasma (such Keshe calls it).
The coil around the sphere only serves as a detector of magnetic fields and not to drain Voltage as many suspect.
This is only the beginning and the concept still needs to be further developed.
Thus, the main purpose of these tests is the opening of a plasma, for the time being nothing else.
Best regards
Geert
Thanks Geert for sharing this information, hope all is well and you succeed in further testing, Jeff.:cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on December 6th, 2013, 12:09 PM
Quote from geert8550 on December 5th, 2013, 04:19 AM
Quote from FaradayEZ on December 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hi Geert,

It is looking very nice and all, but i wonder how these rotating gases are supposed to be making a plasma. Is there some electric field also inside?

Can you elaborate a bit more on the theoretic side of this? Under what conditions is what supposed to be happening?

As i understand it now, you are rotating gases and also are maintaining a vacuum somewhere.

Thx for any more info
Hi guys
Here some explanation of what I'm trying to do.
It's just a rotary vacuum chamber where some types of gas are present in very small quantity. There is no electrical supply is present inside, only the gases. The gases have layers and they do as they spin in a vacuum environment (they react as a liquid). the ratio of different gases must now be tested. at some point certain layers begin to exchange electrones which give responses in the form of magnetic fields.  When this lasts long enough in a particular circumstance, then open up a plasma (such Keshe calls it).
The coil around the sphere only serves as a detector of magnetic fields and not to drain Voltage as many suspect.
This is only the beginning and the concept still needs to be further developed.
Thus, the main purpose of these tests is the opening of a plasma, for the time being nothing else.
Best regards
Geert
Thx Geert,

This makes it easier to follow your work and to think along with it.
For example, is there a measure for the vacuum set by Keshe? And is there an amount of gases set? And is there a speed rpm set at which the separation of the gases evolves?
I guess you have to calculate the total volume amount of the inside. And calculate how much volume or mol(es) of one gas you need to put in? The difference in gravity of the gases and the rpm's  may have a relation. And the volume that a gas will have at those rpm's may change. To then calculate how much of each is needed to let them just interact or have some space in between is difficult to say the least. These theoretical problems say to me that you may need a mathematical model, or a simulation program that could calculate the right setup.

Or what are your thoughts in getting to the right setup?



Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on December 7th, 2013, 07:38 AM
FaradayEZ Thanks for the reply. It is indeed a search for the correct proportions, but we are already busy with it. Soon I can fully test various combinations of our study. hopefully we can soon show how we open a plasma for the first time to the world by open source and that the theory of Kesche is reality. I also want to prove that less educated people also are capable of doing great things.
Well here is my latest video report.

/watch?v=sdZgx1qRvL4
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on December 7th, 2013, 08:37 AM
Awesome setup you have Geert, it's truly amazing what we as humans can do when we put our minds to work. No and can't should not even be in our vocabulary, for those words are just excuses for not trying something new. I truly believe when we put our minds to work, we can accomplish any task at hand.
Proof of this, is the work you are doing and so many others on this forum, great work Geert. :cool::D:P
Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: FaradayEZ on December 7th, 2013, 08:51 AM
Quote from geert8550 on December 7th, 2013, 07:38 AM
FaradayEZ Thanks for the reply. It is indeed a search for the correct proportions, but we are already busy with it. Soon I can fully test various combinations of our study. hopefully we can soon show how we open a plasma for the first time to the world by open source and that the theory of Kesche is reality. I also want to prove that less educated people also are capable of doing great things.
Well here is my latest video report.
Hi Geert, good measurements and blocking interference around it, or calculating with it indeed needs watching for. Good you get some questions and input on it. Better to take account of it early on. What i thought about also is that if there must be a buildup inside for electrons, how do you ensure that it can't flow away. Have you looked at the grounding of your setup, cause to me it seems it must not be grounded for it to build up a charge inside. Secondly, if a charge is build up, it normally should dispurse on the outside of the ballfixture, like with the ballcapacitors that Tesla worked with. If that is the case, there should be an electric field between the ball and the ground. Maybe you could use this beside the magnetisme detector, to see if there is a buildup of a electric field, by voltage difference maybe?

Anyhow, to get the proportions right by trial and error is for now maybe the way to go, and nothing wrong with it, as long as you are convinced you are taking honest measurements and incorporating the noise factors.

So rock on dude ;)


Title: RE: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Antigraviticsystems1 on January 6th, 2014, 04:10 PM
In these type of reactor to imitate the convection condition of the earth outer core, which is in reality, is the
need for charge particle to be in motion in a metallic environment, the circulation of charged particle in the metallic
material can be easily achieved, by feed of charge particles from the plasma from the caroline core through special
borehole, that high energy protons is feed as the ingredient for the rotation of and heating of the material into the outer
core material.
[1026] Charge practical within this environment, where the energy of the protons is large enough to allow them to float
in the matter in this level. But they do not enough energy to cause ionisation or photon release. Thus for the choice of
the material for the outer core. This point has to be taken in to consideration. Therefore even inert gases which can
satisfy this criterion can be used in the outer core. Where the charged partials induced in to this core will maintain the
magnetic field and the current due to the convection of the gases on their own, where the gas in this level will become
a physical catalyst for the creation of magnetic field and not a chemical catalyst.
[1027] The proton balance in each core plus the speed of the rotation of the plasma will dictate the strength of the
magnetic field of the inner core..............................................if you have read it correctly ... plasma rotation is needed, do not confuse the word plasma Keshe attributed to the name of the entity.
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 21st, 2014, 01:16 AM
Hello guys and dolls

I was absent for a while because it can not login to this forum. I was very busy the last few months and did not think to solve this problem. In any case, you can just watch the videos of the latest progress of the project. I think next week to test run. I'm like you, wondering what the outcome will give. The linking of the videos will be posted back here or subscribe to my youtube channel. Share videos please. The technology is real and should be reflected in the media, which until now always locked. If my experiments succeed a revolution will break loose and I want as many people to see this.
Vranckx Geert YouTube channel(https://www.youtube.com/user/8550geert/feed?view_as=public)


Geert
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Gunther Rattay on March 21st, 2014, 02:14 AM
Good luck Geert.

Would be party time if you can produce the effect Keshe is talking about.

Kudos for your ongoing investment and good work!
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on March 21st, 2014, 04:00 AM
Hey Geert, welcome back :-)
Good to see that the Keshe thing is alive and well, best of luck to you :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Jeff Nading on March 21st, 2014, 03:41 PM
Glad you were able to log in again Geert, great progress your making, look forward to your success. :cool:
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on March 21st, 2014, 11:00 PM
thanks guys, Monday wordtde sphere mounted back. Then a further 48 hours under high vacuum condition. Then rinse again 48 hours with hydrogen there. Then he is ready to make the first test run. Hopefully, then, i can open a plasma.
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: geert8550 on April 3rd, 2014, 02:07 PM
Saturday is a big day; the first complete test run of the reactor.
Listen to the part of 30 seconds of the recording from 9:00 min.

part of the 5th knowledge seekers workshop(https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=A459E3AB90C8B44F!2380&authkey=!AKYuLEr1ppaioW4&ithint=file%2c.mp3)
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on April 3rd, 2014, 11:18 PM
So you're actually meeting up with Keshe?
Most interesting.
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Faisca on April 10th, 2014, 02:50 PM
Quote from geert8550 on March 21st, 2014, 11:00 PM
thanks guys, Monday wordtde sphere mounted back. Then a further 48 hours under high vacuum condition. Then rinse again 48 hours with hydrogen there. Then he is ready to make the first test run. Hopefully, then, i can open a plasma.
The hydrogen gas to be ionized, which you will use for this?
Some radioactive material?
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: haiqu on April 15th, 2014, 11:35 PM
Quote from geert8550 on April 3rd, 2014, 02:07 PM
Saturday is a big day; the first complete test run of the reactor.
Listen to the part of 30 seconds of the recording from 9:00 min.

part of the 5th knowledge seekers workshop(https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=A459E3AB90C8B44F!2380&authkey=!AKYuLEr1ppaioW4&ithint=file%2c.mp3)
This link just took me to the OneDrive signup page. Don't use Microsoft crap.
Title: Re: Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed
Post by: Lynx on April 16th, 2014, 12:50 AM
Quote from geert8550 on April 3rd, 2014, 02:07 PM
Saturday is a big day; the first complete test run of the reactor.
Listen to the part of 30 seconds of the recording from 9:00 min.

part of the 5th knowledge seekers workshop(https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=A459E3AB90C8B44F!2380&authkey=!AKYuLEr1ppaioW4&ithint=file%2c.mp3)
Hi Geert.
So how did the test run go then?